ok, guys first the swelling is down to 44 cent.and now with a lot of pain I can bend it to 90 deg. My therapist is really good .. !!! and w/c has made my doc mad he has told them I could not return to work untill jan.21 if all goes well.. Only thing, they found that out and they told me at work ! Wait I thought I was the one who got hurt how did they find this out first is that normal employer knows more of my health than I do My knee is now woobley and it is popping too that hurts okay good luck till next time ,, god bless you mike