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Re: Sleep Problems from Chronic Knee Pain
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2018, 02:23:43 PM »
You can be active in different ways, just need to find what suits. You can still upper body lift. Keep your legs strong swimming, cycling, rowing etc. No need to squat to be fit and healthy

At 37, other cartilage options should be open to you. Plenty of patella/cartilage specialists in the US

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Re: Sleep Problems from Chronic Knee Pain
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2018, 03:01:57 PM »
Vickster thanks for continuing to help me figure this all out. Are you on Facebook by any chance? Or do you have WhatsApp? I was wondering if I can message you. 

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Re: Sleep Problems from Chronic Knee Pain
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2018, 04:25:01 PM »
Now you’re on 20 posts you can private message
Came off bike onto concrete 9/9/09
LK arthroscopy 8/2/10
2nd scope on 16/12/10
RK arthroscopy on 5/2/15
Lateral meniscus trim, excision of hoffa's fat pad, chondral stabilisation
LK scope 10.1.19 medial menisectomy, trochlea microfracture, general tidy up

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Re: Sleep Problems from Chronic Knee Pain
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2018, 07:56:00 PM »
I think there is a lot of pain catastrophizing going on here. Read Explain Pain by David Butler. What I did is start tracking my pain levels for a few months,  find the level of actitivty where the pain is managable, then did a gradual activity progression and gentle strengthening. If you get caught up in these negative thoughts about your future it will heighten your anxiety, depression and pain. There are many people with arthritis who feel NO PAIN, didnt even know they had an issue till it's found incidentally on imaging. pain is complex and often doesn't even correlate fully with tissue damage. In fact, all pain comes from the brain. the peripheral tissues send nociceptor signals of temperature, pressure, etc, but the brain decides where or not something is 'dangerous' enough to produce pain. that's why two people can have the same injury and have very different experiences of pain.  and a brain can actually upregulate inflammaion.   And remember, pain flairs are normal but they will settle with time-think of them as just a "bend in the road" to recovery.
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Re: Sleep Problems from Chronic Knee Pain
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2018, 04:34:29 PM »
I think there is a lot of pain catastrophizing going on here. Read Explain Pain by David Butler. What I did is start tracking my pain levels for a few months,  find the level of actitivty where the pain is managable, then did a gradual activity progression and gentle strengthening. If you get caught up in these negative thoughts about your future it will heighten your anxiety, depression and pain. There are many people with arthritis who feel NO PAIN, didnt even know they had an issue till it's found incidentally on imaging. pain is complex and often doesn't even correlate fully with tissue damage. In fact, all pain comes from the brain. the peripheral tissues send nociceptor signals of temperature, pressure, etc, but the brain decides where or not something is 'dangerous' enough to produce pain. that's why two people can have the same injury and have very different experiences of pain.  and a brain can actually upregulate inflammaion.   And remember, pain flairs are normal but they will settle with time-think of them as just a "bend in the road" to recovery.

Good post. Sadly, after my last optimistic post, I have been having more troubles recently and have been pretty down about it.   So, yes, going backwards as Suspect says. I am also on very little by way of pain meds (down to 100g gabapentin 3x per day) so I may have t go back up.

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Re: Sleep Problems from Chronic Knee Pain
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2018, 01:01:49 AM »
It's important to remember pain flairs are normal with persistent pain, everybody gets them. And recovery is not linear. Think of overall progress measured in months.....at least that's what i tell myself

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Re: Sleep Problems from Chronic Knee Pain
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2018, 04:56:40 PM »
Thanks!  I needed to hear that.















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