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Offline agw

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I came across this thread, and it almost perfectly described my problem: http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=24490.0

My injury happened with a hard fall on the ice (while ice skating). It only bothers me when I kneel on it on a very certain spot (esp. on a hard floor or chair) or when I touch it in that very certain spot. I can go a while without noticing it and think it must be healing, but then I'll kneel on it wrong again and it will again be painful and sensitive. It hasn't been visibly swollen or red. The painful spot is just above the reflex area and almost at the bottom of the patella, mostly central there. I can find it more easily if my knee is bent, not straight. The pain is hard to explain ... it's sudden, sharp, burning, shocking (as in, startling), tender, and sort of shooting. I can't decide if it feels like the spot has a slight lump or not or doesn't feel normal.

This happened 6 months ago. I thought it would heal, but it's still bothering me. Bruise? Hairline fracture? Bursitis with no swelling? Injured or torn ligament? Something else? I'm not thrilled over the thought of an x-ray or MRI. What would the solution be if it would be a fracture/crack, bruise (though 6 months seems too long for that), torn ligament, etc?

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Re: Knee pain (when touched or kneeling) for 6 months since fall
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2018, 10:28:21 AM »
Id say after 6 months you should get it looked at. Why don't you want imaging done?
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Re: Knee pain (when touched or kneeling) for 6 months since fall
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2018, 11:17:00 AM »
My physician father once said "if it hurts, don't do it".

Kneeling is toxic to the knees.  I don't even dream of kneeling with the condition of my present knees.  Just stop kneeling.

As for healthcare, yea sure go have it checked out.  It's going to cost you time, money, and they will likely tell you to stop kneeling and take some NSAIDS.  STAY AWAY FROM ANY SURGICAL SOLUTION!!  I used to work with a primary care doctor and he said his primary job was just "reassuring people that things will be ok"  Just some food for thought.

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Re: Knee pain (when touched or kneeling) for 6 months since fall
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 12:56:54 AM »
1) I also think you need some imaging to get a better idea of what's going on.

2) I suspect you may have knocked off a pice of your articular cartilage on the back of your patella (kneecap). I have 2 small areas of complete cartialgeloss on the back of my kneecap, and it's always cartain things that make it feel EXACTLy as you described....though I prefer to describe it as if a knife is  suddenly stabbing me in those areas.

3) I also get no true lumps or bruising in those areas and never have. Mine didn't occur from a fall though---just poor tracking of my tendons/ligaments/IT Band over the years (I'm 45). Occasionally though, it looks as if there are 2 small lumpy areas on my knee, and I wonder if it's pockets of fluid.

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Re: Knee pain (when touched or kneeling) for 6 months since fall
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 03:39:00 AM »
I had symptoms like you describe for months and was puzzled by them too. Sounds like you have cartilage damage on the back of your patella. My pain happened when standing and putting weight on my knee, at the bottom of my patella, and was sharp and intense. I finally had an arthroscopy that revealed some damaged articular cartilage there that was jagged and located on a weight-bearing location, which is why I felt it when I stood or walked. Mine likely occurred as the result of an injury as well.

The surgeon smoothed out the rough areas and so far the pain has gone down greatly, though I'll need to always be mindful of that knee, stay away from high-impact activities, and will likely need a follow-up scope down the road to clean up any other damage that accumulates over time. Touch base with a surgeon and get their opinion. If it greatly impacts your life then they might be able to clean up the rough parts of the injury so that you feel better. Good luck!
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Re: Knee pain (when touched or kneeling) for 6 months since fall
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 07:57:03 AM »
Kneeling is a commen  problem following any injury to knees and there is so little to solve this problem - the problem will resolve itself over time
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Re: Knee pain (when touched or kneeling) for 6 months since fall
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 11:42:54 AM »
I've not been able to kneel since damaging my lateral femoral condyle 9 years ago. Never will be able to due to the large weight bearing cartilage defect which connects with the ground when I kneel (I can for maybe a minute on a cushion or the bed)

OP, see a knee specialist and get a scan :)
Came off bike onto concrete 9/9/09
LK arthroscopy 8/2/10
2nd scope on 16/12/10
RK arthroscopy on 5/2/15
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More tears and wear, scope planned in Jan 2019 to tidy up

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Re: Knee pain (when touched or kneeling) for 6 months since fall
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2018, 10:08:29 PM »
Thank you all for your advice and thoughts. I guess I don't want more imaging than necessary, because there are possible health risks. As far as not kneeling, it's hard to remember sometimes  - even with something like crawling onto a bed when making it. But I will try to be more careful and consider an imaging option. Thank you!