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Offline Brandon123

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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2017, 08:44:00 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4868182/Scientists-discover-new-drug-help-cure-osteoarthritis.html

Is it possible to cure it? Could this be the end of osteoarthritis? Australian scientists discover new drug to help cure degenerative disorder suffered by millions of people


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4868182/Scientists-discover-new-drug-help-cure-osteoarthritis.html

Sounds too good to be true, but one can always hope :)
RK sharp pain while running, diagnosis chondromalacia patellae 6/09
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RK rehab, recovery, 90% normal, started running again -> back to square one 5/15
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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #106 on: November 04, 2017, 06:11:04 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4868182/Scientists-discover-new-drug-help-cure-osteoarthritis.html

Is it possible to cure it? Could this be the end of osteoarthritis? Australian scientists discover new drug to help cure degenerative disorder suffered by millions of people


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4868182/Scientists-discover-new-drug-help-cure-osteoarthritis.html

Sounds too good to be true, but one can always hope :)

2 clinical Trial started in September 2017, It is not new drug, it used for IC- woman and also in vetclinic for horse osteoarthritis.

http://www.paradigmbiopharma.com/clinical/clinical-trials

 

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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2017, 09:04:59 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4868182/Scientists-discover-new-drug-help-cure-osteoarthritis.html

Is it possible to cure it? Could this be the end of osteoarthritis? Australian scientists discover new drug to help cure degenerative disorder suffered by millions of people


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4868182/Scientists-discover-new-drug-help-cure-osteoarthritis.html

Sounds too good to be true, but one can always hope :)

2 clinical Trial started in September 2017, It is not new drug, it used for IC- woman and also in vetclinic for horse osteoarthritis.

http://www.paradigmbiopharma.com/clinical/clinical-trials

Ok, interesting, thanks for the info!
RK sharp pain while running, diagnosis chondromalacia patellae 6/09
RK arthroscopic chondroplasty 9/09
RK rehab, recovery, 90% normal, started running again -> back to square one 5/15
RK diagnosis patellofemoral arthritis + LK diagnosis chondromalacia patellae 8/15 -> conservative treatment

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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #108 on: November 22, 2017, 10:28:18 AM »
Sorry for the delay. I was very busy last month.I've paid too much,something over 3000€ but it's a long story.
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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #109 on: November 23, 2017, 10:41:40 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4868182/Scientists-discover-new-drug-help-cure-osteoarthritis.html

Is it possible to cure it? Could this be the end of osteoarthritis? Australian scientists discover new drug to help cure degenerative disorder suffered by millions of people


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4868182/Scientists-discover-new-drug-help-cure-osteoarthritis.html
I don't think so.It doesn't solve the problem,only the consequence.But blocking the pain can be a two-edged sword. It could allow you to exercise without pain,but it could make your condition even worse.If it is a pain relief, it can help but I doubt it will cure osteoarthritis that is associated with loss of cartilage and degeneration of the bone.
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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #110 on: September 19, 2018, 09:56:10 AM »
Hi, l am considering Lipogems procedure in the UK for both knees. Can anyone recommend a good place in the UK to have this done and some indicative costs.

Thanks,

Mel.

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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #111 on: September 19, 2018, 10:25:16 AM »
I can't  recall anyone posting that they have had this treatment in the U.K. However, this clinic looks promising. Adrian Wilson is a highly regarded senior knee specialist, so would be someone I would trust to know his stuff.  He writes for this site indeed.

https://www.theregenerativeclinic.co.uk/our-specialists/

The other UK hit looks less convincing to me, the lead clinician isn't a knee surgeon from what I can tell

https://ralphrogers.com/regenerative-medicine/lipogems/

Cost wise, you'd need to consult with scans etc, tends to be very variable. But probably several thousand rather than hundreds? Stem cell use is in very early days in the U.K. With few specialists and high private costs. I do have some vague recollection of someone having spoken to Prof Wilson now I think about it, and a figure of 6k comes to mind, don't know if that was one or both knees.
Don't ask me who it was though! Maybe try searching on Lipogems through the search function

What issues do you have with your knees?

Edit: ok I've had a search and these came up, my vague recollections weren't too far out

http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=72111.msg666636#msg666636
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=70066.msg653456#msg653456
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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #112 on: September 20, 2018, 10:37:06 AM »
Hi Vickster,

Many thanks for your reply. I have seen articles on Lipogems treatment in Poland and Lithuania. I have moderate patello femoral joint osteroarthritis. I can move around reasonably well but have had to reduce sports considerably due to this condition. I would like to find out if Lipogems can help treat this problem and hear from others on this forum who have had Lipogems in Poland, Lithuania or the UK (or anywhere else).

Thanks,

Mel.

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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #113 on: September 20, 2018, 11:27:12 AM »
You’ll get a fair few hits if you search on Lipogems, whether it has been proven to reliably help in long term data in moderate arthritis, not sure. I don’t think any of the prior posters have been active recently.  Once you get to 20 posts, you can try PMing them (if they’ve not got 20 posts, they won’t be able to respond though!)

Have you had your alignment checked as if the kneecaps are in the wrong place or maltracking, you’d need to resolve prior to trying any regeneration or any regrowth would just wear again

Adrian Wilson is among the best for malalignment /osteotomy so it’d be wise in my view to consult and get scanned etc before going abroad for costly treatment. Private practice only though these days I understand

Good luck
« Last Edit: September 20, 2018, 11:43:28 AM by Vickster »
Came off bike onto concrete 9/9/09
LK arthroscopy 8/2/10
2nd scope on 16/12/10
RK arthroscopy on 5/2/15
Lateral meniscus trim, excision of hoffa's fat pad, chondral stabilisation
LK scope 10.1.19 medial menisectomy, trochlea microfracture, general tidy up

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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #114 on: October 16, 2018, 01:11:13 PM »
Hi Vickster,

Many thanks for your very helpful reply. The alignment has been checked and confirmed as neutral. I have been in contact with a clinic in Lithuania (Kardiolitos klinikos - Doctors name Andrius Saikus ) and am considering going to them for scans and consultation prior to lipogems. Do you know if anyone on this site has used this hospital before?

Thanks,

Mel.

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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #115 on: October 16, 2018, 02:31:10 PM »
In don’t know. Try putting the information as search terms in the search function
Came off bike onto concrete 9/9/09
LK arthroscopy 8/2/10
2nd scope on 16/12/10
RK arthroscopy on 5/2/15
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LK scope 10.1.19 medial menisectomy, trochlea microfracture, general tidy up

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Re: Lipogems- anyone tried it?
« Reply #116 on: October 17, 2018, 08:55:14 AM »
Some info about Lipogems from Adrian Wilson's clinic that might be of interest: https://pressreleases.responsesource.com/news/94332/cartilage-regrowth-proven-in-clinical-trial/

If I remember correctly from the data of the studies, most participants with patellofemoral arthritis did see some improvement, but not as much as those with arthritis in the lateral and medial compartments of the joint. 
RK sharp pain while running, diagnosis chondromalacia patellae 6/09
RK arthroscopic chondroplasty 9/09
RK rehab, recovery, 90% normal, started running again -> back to square one 5/15
RK diagnosis patellofemoral arthritis + LK diagnosis chondromalacia patellae 8/15 -> conservative treatment

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