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Offline lmilesuk

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Trainers to help increase the joint space at medial knee aspect
« on: January 05, 2015, 12:04:45 PM »
Hi,

I recently obtained some orthotic inserts from the hospital, the aim of them so I've been told is that they act as "Lateral Posts on insoles to increase the joint space at medial knee aspect".

However I find them hard and uncomfortable when running and as such am running less as it's not enjoyable. I've done some googling but can't seem to find a trainer that will do the same thing, could someone who understands this better than me point me in the direction of types of trainers that will help with this?

Many thanks in advance


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Re: Trainers to help increase the joint space at medial knee aspect
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 12:32:17 PM »
I would go to a specialist running shop with a wide range of running shoes suited to different foot / gait types, that sell orthotics for running, that can do a proper gait analysis.  Most large towns will have such a shop close by.  Try to find one with a physio on staff or links to a physio practice

Assume you have already discussed running with your physiotherapist as it can be hard on knees.

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Re: Trainers to help increase the joint space at medial knee aspect
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 01:30:24 PM »
Yes and it's fine, I live quite rural so if possible would like to buy something generic if possible, which types do I look at under-pronating?

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Re: Trainers to help increase the joint space at medial knee aspect
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 02:50:39 PM »
I'm not a runner, so suggest you either contact your physio or at least a specialised running web seller. Sportsshoes.com have a big range. There are others too. It would be best to go to some stores and try, if only to save a fortune on postage costs! It'll cost around 4 to post back each pair! Have a day out, just check your local towns for options, calling first before travelling :)

Or you could try something like this
http://www.runnersworld.com/shoe-finder/shoe-advisor
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Re: Trainers to help increase the joint space at medial knee aspect
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2015, 11:25:58 AM »
Thanks very much that site is very useful, except I'm still a little stuck as to what to enter do I choose Over/Under pronate?

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Re: Trainers to help increase the joint space at medial knee aspect
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2015, 11:40:03 AM »
If you've been given orthotics to reduce stress on medial aspect I'd suspect you're over pronating. I would strongly echo getting a proper gait analysis if at all possible, they not only look at pronation but also at foot strike, hip drop, glute strength and all sorts of stuff if they're a decent place. You can also ask someone to take a photo of you standing from the back and look at your ankle and heel position as a rough guide, but this is only static and doesn't account for how you move and how forces affect you.

I am not a runner now but when I did more I found Mizuno trainers to be amazing. My friend also uses them for all his marathon training. I then put Happy Feet (I think?!) insoles inside them too as advised by a podiatrist to further help with comfort and foot position.

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Re: Trainers to help increase the joint space at medial knee aspect
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2015, 04:03:26 PM »
If you are really looking for something to change your alignment, especially if you're using it for impact activities, I wouldn't try an OTC insert (or generic). You'd be better off getting a prescription orthotic, or an unloader brace designed to give you the exact degree of correction you need.

Buying shoes for for underpronation (typically high-arched people) or overpronation (low to normal arches, typically) is fine when you are talking about mild variations in your footstrike/gait pattern, but for major orthopedic issues, I'd see a doctor. 
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Re: Trainers to help increase the joint space at medial knee aspect
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2015, 04:25:56 PM »
The OP has hospital orthotics but says they are uncomfortable (probably free generic ones). Custom orthotics can get very expensive.  I have some from my physio in my gym shoes and they are fine, but I don't run due to my dodgy knees!

For running, the wisdom seems to be having the right shoes is the first step after proper analysis as Lottie suggests.. I don't know how the OP chooses her trainers?
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2nd scope on 16/12/10
RK arthroscopy on 5/2/15
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LK scope 10.1.19 medial menisectomy, trochlea microfracture, general tidy up