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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #540 on: December 14, 2015, 10:05:12 PM »
i thought i would give an update.....  ::)
so i saw the second opinion doctor who was amazing!! he answered every single question with an answer and checked everything from my teeth to my toes, he wasn't afraid to give me an answer and if he didn't know he told me straight..... which only helped me gain more respect for the guy =)

So apparently i am hyper mobile he completely agrees, he also said i failed a lot of ACL tests and all my other ligaments are attached and fully intact , by he sounds of it it could be related in part to the old injury in wrestling a few years back in relation to my MPFL, i even thanked him and said i thought i was going mad....

i get the results of the mri in the first week of January so fingers crossed, and all the doctors were so lovely at that hospital
but honestly he was great all i have ever wanted is answers, that is all any patients wants is honesty and answers to give us the confidence and trust in a doctor, it is a basic form of humanity and the craziest part if i got my MRI 4 days later after i saw him =)

My physios are all happy too as they believed it was the issue too but didnt want to tell me to see if the doctor agreed with them, =) he said sometimes the MPFL and ACL can rupture at the same time......
he said my PCL,MCL,and Posterolatral corner are all intact

Sometimes there is hope in people and second opinions sometimes peoples experiences as in surgeons differ to one another..... and to be honest i walked out with so much hope as i knew what i had been feeling was correct that something was not right............ but honestly a wonderful calm gentleman this doctor was ....

so fingers crossed now, i dont care as long as it gets sorted that is the most important thing the ability to life life =) so fingers crossed after 300 collapses i have hope again =)

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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #541 on: December 15, 2015, 05:32:52 PM »
Hi Lucha,

I am glad this time round things are going your way with have an understanding medical team on your side. It always nice to be given a diagnoses as you start to think you are going bonkers and imagining the pain and discomfort that I been through several times. 

I hope your MRI results come back showing a problem that can be fixed easily. I have just had an email back from Prof Snow Secretary saying my MRI scan looks ok. Once again negative which is not what I wanted to hear. I am too worked up to post in my dairy right now, will give it till Friday when I will be 17 months post op for an update.

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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #542 on: January 06, 2016, 07:38:48 PM »
finally!!! i was right there was something wrong instinct paid off!!!  :D
I burst into tears in front of the doctor when he told me my mri results it showed several things such as edema, ligament issue and other issues and he wants to scope the knee before he decides what to do as in the best surgery or action going forward due to having hypermobility and so on the surgeon wants a clear idea of what is best and then to talk to me about it after the surgeon has had a look.......

this surgeon has been ever so helpful i walked out saying this mri has given me hope i was right all along =)

i finally feel positive, sometimes its amazing how instinct can prove that we can be right if we know something is wrong, dont be afraid to ask for a second opinion because it is about your quality of life, and this surgeon listened to me fully and just let me get it all out, and never judged anything, i cannot fault this surgeon.....Im building my trust up slowly with this surgeon by as i explained to this person, after having two years with issues, and no one listening, its hard to have trust..... an i suppose thats why i got abit emotional because after nearly two years of collapses there was an underlying pathological issue.... and my gut instinct was correct.....

I dont want to name surgeons names who have been in my case. as i feel it is in their best interest to keep them private, because all surgeries are different and can have different outcomes but sometimes dependent on cases some may need a specialist =).........

this surgeon only gets sent the complex cases, and i tell you what im indebted to the consultant who transferred me to this surgeon, so moving forwards with positive vibes  =)

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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #543 on: January 09, 2016, 02:36:58 PM »
so on the day i had my pre op assessment and it was really strange in my regional NHS your not allowed to take any style painkiller 10-14 days before surgery and in this centre it was 48 hours? And also you have to clean yourself with a solution two days before the surgery, again in my regional trust that doesnt happen
I explained this to the matron and she said what on earth NHS trust do you come from??
at this point i thought i best not say anymore lol  ::)

So how am i feeling? Im happy in so many ways, that i knew i was right on many levels, but needed the evidence e.g MRI to prove it, I think i have learnt several things through the process, that each and every doctor in orthopaedics has their own expertise and its takes a lot of research and recommendation to find the right one. Not all surgeons know the answers to everything, due to different experiences, we are all students of life and are constantly learning, we all come into the world the same way and we all leave the same way.....

Sometimes i feel that if a doctor does not have an answer they should not be afraid or fear to tell the patient and pass them onto someone else who can help that patient and diagnose them correctly, they should be no fear in doing this, as you can only cause more problems holding a patient back, because it would only create a sense of distrust between a patient and doctor, i remain indebted to the consultant who overruled my ex consultant in the same hospital which took courage.... but very thankful =)

THIS NEW CONSULTANT IS AWESOME!!, and has given me all the answers to my questions sat there and explained my mri  turned the screen to me went through detail  by detail slice by slice from the patella to tibia, to mpfl reconstruction explaining every photo/slice of the knee and explained the problems within the mri which have been raised, is the first consultant to do that with me =) and by this consultant doing that i have no unanswered questions........this consultant has been very blunt, honest open and understanding. This consultant also was the ONLY ONE to ask me also had the major weight loss helped my knee and i said no it hadn't as it was still collapsing.... the consultant has been very clear not to promise anything which i agree with, and wants a full understanding of the knee, and the problems on the mri and then to talk to me once the look inside the knee has been done

I suppose the new consultant had the empathy and experience to understand when you have lost a lot of weight through knee surgery and your knee is still buggered even after losing 12 stone there is something wrong, apparently it isn't a long wait for the first surgery, to be honest i do not mind waiting as i know this consultant is experienced in buggered ligaments lol so i will wait =) yes i do have hope again but the trust will take time to build, i cannot gain two years back but the best thing i can do is look forwards onwards and upwards to know by the end of this year everything will be sorted to the best of the ability they can do =)

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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #544 on: January 15, 2016, 09:45:37 PM »
So i had two major falls recently one in the shower i turned knee collapsed and back went right into the metal shower pipe head and fell to the floor, luckily i managed to get up but i now have a massive bruise on my back...

Then i crossed a road luckily my friend was there as knee collapsed also i got slightly hit but not full impact which was lucky a my friend waved at the car when my knee went, as i was crossing a busy road......which frightened me so much now i wear a brace

So i decided to go to my private physio caught up with the physio who was happy for me as the physio agreed with the findings of my new surgeon but as soon as i mentioned the edema in the knee.. i was told.... no cross trainer no running no rower all close kinetic exercises not open, otherwise you might irritate it more, i was also confused about in the letter it saying i needed antibiotics after surgery which i have never had with knee surgery before and the physio explained as i have edema that can increase risk of infection..........

i explained everything that had happened and she used a machine to relax the joint, then physio talked about trust, i explained to the physio after two years its hard and after this mri proving i was right and there was something not right it makes it harder, i said i cant do anything about it but i must remain positive but its hard when you trying to get stopped by getting hit by cars, and lost a lot of income i said im the person who believes in honesty and respect i would like an APOLOGY BUT i will never get that from the ex surgeon........i just need the knee sorted and i want to lead a normal life, that is all i want... every doctor has different expertise, and sometimes its best to be transferred to the right one.....i have found a great surgeon now so positive moving forwards......and i cannot fault this new surgeon, honest, straight, answered all the questions

i think the physio understood what i was trying to say went quiet and said your poor knee we will finally get you sorted! this physio has backed me alot and i cannot fault this physio clinic they all know me there and say hello all the physios and i generally stick with one there and another one who is a Kiwi in emergencies ......

So now in the gym doing alot more upper body weights, and stepmaster has become my new best friend....
i ahve surgery planned for late march they have given me a date but they have also put me on a cancellation list if anything comes up which is great =)

im beginning to feel more positive its taken time i cannot change the past or the decisions that happened or the decisions my ex surgeon made,yes i have lost a lot, but all i can do is look forward to the future with a great surgeon =)


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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #545 on: January 17, 2016, 02:00:32 PM »
Hi Lucha,

Happy New Year, I am sorry it not started off too well with more knee collapses! The positive thing is knowing that you have finally found an understanding OS that knows what's up and willing to get it resolved for you.

I also had edema in my right knee pre-op to scope #2 of AIR! That was the one 100% positive MRI where my OS was happy to take a look inside the knee the others have not really shown anything too major or of a concern. 

I hope you can have the surgery done earlier than late March with a cancellation coming up, it is a long time to wait if you are in daily pain and discomfort. I am seeing my OS again in mid March and unfortunately the 3 cortisone injections last year have not helped! Maybe he has no other option now but to do a diagnostic scope! It a risk and gamble to consider, at least I then know I have tried all the possible options available! Or he might have to realign my kneecap, that's a big surgery to endure.

Good luck.

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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #546 on: January 17, 2016, 10:22:46 PM »
Hey Nick
I hope you  had a good new year,
well after reading the letter i received i have apparently injured the rarest area of this ligament at the back of the knee ( just my luck lol ) i have oedema and retro patellar so , in a way im more than praying lol for a cancellation as i have already paid out 450 in physiotherapy to keep my knee going, and it has given out today..........

I think sometimes it does tire you out trying to put up with a knee that is just not performing and is a greater risk for you walking outside and it just goes is just crazy......
It looks more like i will go to the physio again this week to get the knee sorted, then you begin to think how much more damage has my knee got now??

Im sorry to hear you injections haven't worked i hope when you see your OS nick in march he will help you i hope all is well with you


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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #547 on: January 19, 2016, 01:15:53 PM »
Hi Lucha

I am so glad you have found a new surgeon who seems as though they can really help you! Hopefully you manage to get a cancellation and don't have to wait much longer for your surgery.

I am back at physio myself with recurring problems in my right knee and it looks like I might be facing more surgery too! :(

Keep us updated on how you're getting on.

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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #548 on: January 19, 2016, 07:41:23 PM »
so i feel abit witty in a sarcastic way today lol so finally read the notes from the surgeon lol
so drum roll please brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol

so i have injured a part of the ACL there are two bundles one called the anteromedial bundle which is the common one to tear, break etc and then the second one is called the posterallateral bundle which apparently im told is the rarest part to injure which is just my blinkin luck lol but the anteromedial bundle part is perfect no problems lol

so.......  the theory behind my physios idea is that if it was injured years back with my MPFL at the same time and it managed to heal itself an ACL can look normal on the outside but the fibres on the inside can look different...so looks like im going to be having my leg in every single yoga position possible under anaesthesia to examine the ACL lol

I have oedema of the knee so fluid in the knee..didn't need a mri to tell me that even the surgeon could see it lol ..... and recorded history of patellar instability which can be seen due to loss of cartilage.......

so not much really going on with this knee... feeling rather bemused that my knee is slightly buggered but inwards and upwards to get it sorted with this new surgeon........ :)

HEY EMMA!! im so sorry to hear about your knee? What happened? its been a long time since i heard from you..... i hope they get it sorted for you emma be positive i know its hard but it will get sorted  :)

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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #549 on: February 04, 2016, 11:15:46 PM »
So its been a couple of weeks and i have come to terms that my knee is a rather terrible state.........

We as the patients, put our hope and faith in surgeons, as we don't know any better than that.
One thing i have thought it that to research the surgeon to understand their expertise and what is crucial in getting the right diagnosis for you, sometimes i feel there is a taboo to ask for a second opinion or it's disrespect towards the surgeon, but if as a patient your body is saying something isn't right one must follow that instinct......as i said earlier all surgeons have different expertise we are all students of life we do not have the answer to everything, one must accept this and when one doesn't know the answer they must seek the answer elsewhere.......

After now over 400 collapses of my knee, i feel that i have answers yes, but now to accept the fact that i have been right for two years that there was an underlying pathological condition, it's hard to think this even by me cutting back on the gym the leg is worse, my knee turns into some weird positions when im pivoting its scary... i have even taken on swimming more now and cycling as what my physio advised to do and i still get alot of issues on this....... so i have adapted it to the best i can to make it easier on the knee...

So what i suppose im trying to say is in order to get something right never fear asking a question or asking for a second opinion, no one is god and no one knows everything including surgeons and they all have their expertise in certain areas, as i have said before i will be indebted to the orthopaedic consultant in the same hospital who disagreed with my ex orthopaedic surgeon, and transferred me.............

i now am about 5-6 weeks away from the look into the knee surgery, with one of the best surgeons in the country, who only deals with complex cases, where no one else is allowed to look at my case, as on it it says MR ###### ONLY! even on the surgical papers it said this and the nurse said to me this surgeon never writes this on paperwork i asked why she said you must be a complex, unusual case that he doesn't want another consultant to see this case...

my trust is broken with surgeons im cautious, but im building it slowly again, but im constantly asking questions because i want to understand for what reason each and every thing has been agreed and why it has, as its my body and after two years of  knee surgeries recovery etc, you try to protect yourself as much as possible ALL ANY PATIENT WANTS IS TRUTH, its a basic principle, i mean im not being funny if your putting a drill in my knee i want to know why lol But i think this surgeon is use to it as he sees complex cases and probably by the time he sees cases like mine he would generally know that we as patients are pulling our hair out and are not as open to i remember him asking me " how do you feel? How has the situation effected you?"
in which i replied sarcastically
 " I tell you what you go from wrestling in front of fans in big arenas throwing men through tables to this a dodgy knee that keeps collapsing and you look like your walking like herr flick from allo allo, my life is like Russian roulette every action i do right now from crossing a road, to a turn is a risk, and i have a ex surgeon telling an athlete your knee is fine?

I fail to believe that Sir, because its my knee and i know just as much about kinetics and pivot motions to understand its not normal to see your tibia and femur rotate in opposites ways and your knee clunk out and collapses........im not stupid sir something is wrong, because that is not normal........

my new surgeon greeted me with a silence then a pat of the hand and said trust me everything is going to be alright, my new knee surgeon has some calmness about him which i suppose is good because the surgeon lets you just talk and remains silent, i suppose he appreciates when you have a dodgey knee for so long of course you will feel frustrated..........

im now thankful for what i do have a surgeon that listens and is very respectful and is helping me to the best that he can i know my knee wont ever be 100% but if he can just give me a sense of stability it would help rather than worry about if i go out will my knee collapse......time to think positive and that im on the road to recovery from the lady sitting with a croyocuff on and ice around her knee at 11:30pm at night. lol....

so lesson learnt : never fear asking for a second opinion and doctors should put you to the correct surgeon with the correct expertise to help within patient care if they do not have the answer............


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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #550 on: February 09, 2016, 04:34:13 PM »
Hi Lucha,

I am glad you have finally have found an understanding OS that is listening to your concerns that's happy to doing something about it. I agree with you that one does not like to go for a 2nd opinion, worrying that you may upset and offend your current OS!

It's our body at the end of the day, we know best, Google your specific knee problems finding an OS's that specialises in your specific knee condition.

Good luck pre-op to your surgery in March that is around the same time when I see my OS again. I have lost count now how many times I have seen him since post-op to scope#2 of AIR surgery. I would now like to come to a final decision, I will be 20 months post op in March, I now need another form of treatment apart from a cortisone injections.

Hopefully shortly after your surgery, knee collapses will be a thing of the past for you.

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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #551 on: February 09, 2016, 05:04:32 PM »
so i have had a rough start to the week, so at the start of the weeks my young nephew who is under 4 decided to run through my legs, so u tried to stop him i turned then i felt a massive clunk crack pop and knee just physically went in a weird position like my tibia had rotated it was not  nice i managed to grab him before he caused more mischief and i sat him by me as  i tried to get my leg sorted and get it straight as i was the only one on the lower floor with him as sister was upstairs

so me being in agony he says "auntie are you in pain?"
i replied with a big smile "no" as i didnt want him to be scared......
he then said "ewwww... you leg not pretty not ok, didnt doctor make you better?"
i replied sometimes we need special doctors to help some people hun,"
he replied " now you have good doctor."
i replied "yes" he replied "thats good my auntie gets better, but your leg is ewwww..."

coming from a child its rather interesting how they pick up on things lol and the commentary was amusing
he was right in several ways too lol...... So i decided to call my private physio as my knee was still clunking....
i wasnt too sure if it was sitting right........physio is on holiday for two weeks, so i contacted my physio in the NHS, so i managed to get an appointment this thursday........

so my pt was like i needed to get my leg checked as it still looked mishaped so i called my private gp saw him, and he looked and said i wont know what mpfl is and the full context of the knee but it doesnt look right so he said he would give me a letter for the physio to say if my knee still looked dodgey and wasnt right then for him to ask for me to see the on call orthopedic doctor that day to check its ok...........i suppose if you dont laugh you will just get annoyed lol and i havent even done the gym in 2 weeks lol

clarkey i hope you get it sorted soon =)



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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #552 on: February 13, 2016, 01:46:20 AM »
So i saw my other physio, who i get on with well, i caught up with and gave the physio all the notes from what my new surgeon dictated so at least he was aware of the full context.....the physio read the letter and i had a silence scratch of the head and the physio shaking his head.

the physio agreed with me that now we had an answer for the re-current instability, he said my quads, vmo and hamstring were fantastic, but he did agree my knee was massive and swollen and puffy from the last collapse, and the physio warned me that before the surgery "No gym, no pressure on the joint, at least 3 days prior to surgery, otherwise the surgeon could turn around and say no due to high risk with a knee with excess fluid, Then i did ask my physio "how can a surgeon have missed this oedema, posteral lateral injury to the ACL, and excess fluid and some blood??" I got a major silence for a few minutes,
the physio replied "Well finally at least we have a surgeon who knows what to do now, and can get you sorted and get you back on track." But also it looks like another year with the physio, so i have been near enough in that physio department for three years by the end of it lol

So my physio set up my appointment, and asked the receptionist to double book me for after my surgery, she said that never happens and my physio said with my case he wants to see me for an hour. so it now makes me wonder if the trust is keeping an eye on my case due to the findings from my new surgeon from the different trust. I will see him three days after the first surgery as my work commitments in April are big........

So the surgery is happening in London no trusts being named or doctors for privacy reasons....... But i got given a present a stay at the SHARD HOTEL! the night before the surgery in London =) I will have a lot of support that day i will have my friend and ex personal trainer staying with me at the Shard, who will accompany me to the surgery, she is a very close friend who helped me to lose the 12 stone and helped me on my rehab. My sister will also pop her head in too on the day, and i am also dating a guy right now that i met in London a couple of months back, he is fully aware of the situation, he works in the NHS too, and he will be coming to wish me the best too in between clinics i might as well have a party i think lol

 I dont think my surgeon will be impressed lol with the amount of people going in and out lol... so i have a good support network, and they all understand that im nervous, as i still have trust issues with surgeons lol i suppose by having my good friend with me the night and going round London will be a good distraction............and most of them will all be jumping in a taxi with me after the surgery to get me home lol Im hoping that my surgeon will see that by me living so far he will want to get me out and home asap as i have to be at this hospital for 7:30am for morning surgery, so fingers crossed but i know he will choose what cases he wants to see or deal with first........

To think i have another year of surgery ahead seems just crazy,but its needs to be sorted. i had put my faith and trust in a surgeon to fix it, and it didnt happen, will i forgive and forget? Some people say that if you don't forgive then its harder to move on. I think anything that anyone would want would be an apology from the ex surgeon as a closure, but i will never get that if i did i would have respected that ex surgeon for doing that, i suppose my only closure is knowing that i was right all along, and my knee was in an abhorrent state,

 i suppose that gives me faith that i was right to fight for my quality of life. and with help from the physio and the other consultant who got me transferred i got my answers, and i got the right diagnosis after two years .......my new surgeon is very conscientious, understanding and has empathy, and after the two years its good to have that. =) the surgeon sees very select cases, so i know that i am in good hands, quite literally lol with a person who is a specialist in his field.
So the surgeon i have got is the nicest surgeon you could meet,

My friend asked me if you could say something to any surgeon or ex surgeon what would it be i replied"

"No one is God, were are all equal and deserve the same respect, we are all students in life, and we learn everyday we do not know the answers to everything, if we do not know the answers to a problem we should seek help from others, and not be afraid to ask, and not let pride or fear of reprisals stop it, as your only trying to get the correct diagnosis. No matter how many years experiences you have we are still learning, but also that actions have consequences, and sometimes we have to admit defeat and in order to help others sometimes we must look outside the box and seek advice from others to see the broader view."

I hope if i can change the opinion of one doctor reading this then it will help other patients in too.....
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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #553 on: February 14, 2016, 12:31:02 PM »
Hi Lucha,

Glad you to see you are thinking more positively after all the setbacks you have had to endure and countless knee collapses. I does help tremendously to find an understanding OS that willing to help you, listening to your concerns without righting you off straight away as your previous OS did!

It also good to find a Physiotherapist that knows how to go about preparing your knee pre-op and what to do post-op once you have had your surgery. I was disappointed when my PT no longer could treat me due to working overseas for the majority of the year. I have now found one this week that exceptionally good at her job that straight away spotted what has been causing my long term right knee problems.

I am for you pleased that your have found a new boyfriend, a relationship does help to lower anxiety and stress levels knowing there is someone standing by you for much needed moral support as well as your family and close friends. I am also doing my post op diary not just for my own benefit, also hope it will be read by orthopedic professionals and for patients with similar knee problems that I already been through and currently going through.

I am sure you will be celebrating Valentines Day today  ;)

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Re: An athletes mpfl reconstruction diary
« Reply #554 on: February 15, 2016, 05:14:53 PM »
my theory is that some consultants don't like to admit they don't know in the fear it will make them look bad amongst their peers or patients, especially when the surgeon has one or two decades experience.
For me i think i would respect a doctor or surgeon more, if they were honest and said i need to pass you onto this doctor because they have better expertise in this field, and i think a patient would respect you more for that.

But i think there are cases where surgeons believe that if they pass on a case because they cannot find a solution they will be judged in a negative way.My point here is surely quality patient care is the most important thing,  surgeons are there to help one another to gain a correct diagnosis for a patient, its not about the understanding  ones reputation or pride in fear of questioning or because they don't have the expertise..... its about the understanding of the patient and getting the correct diagnosis for them....

This is why i do feel comfortable with my new knee consultant as he says it as it is does not promise anything, but says when he does not know the answer, and most importantly just lets me talk which i respect him for....... its already been a struggle enough as it is.. but the feeling that you have expressed yourself, is a good feeling.....because you have bottled it up for so long to fight for your quality of life with a ex surgeon saying no you don't know what your talking about your knee is fine, and then you find out it isn't im sure for anyone in this situation there is a sense of relief but frustration too.

Like i said before no one is God, no one knows the answers to everything we are all students of life on a daily basis. Some surgeons not all need to accept the fact that sometimes the best thing you can do with a patient is swallow their pride and transfer the patient to a specialist,  there is no point putting false hope in a persons mentality, if the surgeons are not sure themselves on what is the problem.......

Im not saying all surgeons are like this but some of them do exist but there are some amazing surgeons, too this is why i dont name my ex surgeon or surgeon right now because every case is different....
I think as patients we should research a surgeon first to understand their specialities too.....

I remember once my ex surgeon saying " You dont know what your talking about your knee is fine wait 20 years for it to seize up." well mri of Jan 2016..... damaged old acl injury oedema and blood in the knee... well i think i know what i am talking about .... its buggered i was right lol  :)

hey nick i thought when you said wrote me off i thought i would explain that about the consultants, like i said there are some great surgeons and there is a minority of them of the above i mentioned... and every case is different etc..... but i do agree with you if a patient is complaining about 300 collapses surley you shouldnt write them off ? lol i think some people just need to think outside the box a little more

But now positive thinking on the road to recovery =)

Sorry to hear about your physio well its good your new one knows what they are doing =)

















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