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Offline teddynitis

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Bumps below knee,catching knee cap
« on: February 03, 2013, 11:09:53 AM »
Hello people,

I'm currently travelling/residing in SE Asia and where i am at the moment i dont hold much faith in finding a specialist here so here gos.

Several years back i did a cycling tour in parts of asia and NZ. eg alot of hills. I didnt worry about the mechanics side of it enough and bought a used bike in asia that was too small and didnt allow my legs to extend enough.
Whilst cycling hills in Laos i remember feeling aches in my VMO's/inner quad area. I never stretched after a day on the bike and now remember that when i slept my legs seemed to always feel natural to be crunched up rather than straight.

After the cycling i became more inactive apart from some hiking in NZ where i again always felt my VMO's ache when walking down hills alot.

I now (only over the last two months) like to go running 2 miles on the beach everyday (barefoot) but yesterday i had dull aches around the lower knee cap area and didnt feel like running as i knew it would make it worse.

My symptoms : I have bony lumps below my knees on the shin bones where i believe the knee tendon connects to the shin. There seems to be 2 bony lumps on each shin and the bumps hardly feel there when i bend my leg but are prominent when they are straight. Yesterday i massaged under the bottom of the patella (in the slightly painfull parts) where the tendon attaches and when i touched it today it was sore to touch.

My knee caps seem to catch on the lower outside of my knees like where the outside lower edge of the knee cap catches on the groove of the femur. With abit of a click.

Been doing alot of reading about it on the web, and stretching alot and doing the plank, bridge to try and strengthen the glutes and also stretching the ITB but it doesnt seem to stop my knees from clicking.

So over the last couple of weeks i've tried strengthening the VMO's and doing a few decline (heels up) squats as i read they were good for tendonitis and thought i'd see how it gos. But i thought i'd ask on here to get some thoughts.

eg, can you get bony lumps below the knees from knee tendonitis or is that more likely to be Osgoods ?

Is the tendonitis likely causing the tracking/clicking issue or the other way around ?

I'd like to know what area to try to target first - the tendon or the knee cap tracking ?

If i massage around the tender area under the lip of the knee cap and it becomes sore to touch from the massage the following day, does the soreness indicate the massage helped ?

I'm a 42 year old lanky legged bloke with tight hamstrings (been stretching them everyday for along while now). I defiinitely didnt do much sport when i was younger at school etc. One thing i find strange about my legs is that i cannot sit on my hunches with my feet flat on the ground. I keep looking at all these rubber legged asians squat down eating snacks and thinking they must be super human or something ! 

Thanks for any help.

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Offline knee2no

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Re: Bumps below knee,catching knee cap
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 02:22:29 PM »
You are unlikely to develop Osgood-Schlatter in your 40's as it is found in adolescents.  Running is very bad for the knees.   Why not give them a rest and ice and try stretching & yoga?
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Re: Bumps below knee,catching knee cap
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 05:47:47 PM »
When you run barefoot, are you using a forefoot, midfoot or heel strike? Barefoot running requires a much different landing and stride than regular running. If you know all that, just ignore me :) If you are newer to it you might want to do some research on barefoot running, there is a ton of it out there. You have to shorten your stride and land mid to fore foot otherwise it can cause problems with your joints almost immediately.
I wish I had more I could say. I had a click in my knee too, but it was caused by a piece of torn cartilage catching in the joint and I had to have surgery to remove it.

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Re: Bumps below knee,catching knee cap
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2013, 06:46:35 AM »
Cheers for the help. With Osgoods are you left with the bumps after you've had it ? eg so bony bumps can develop with tendonitis ?

My foot strike is pretty flat really. Its more of a slow jog than a run as its damn hot here.

I think that the following exercise may be helping my knees feel alot better although its too early to say ;

Gives abit of a burn on the VMO's.

Also been doing his calf stretches which seem to target the muscle thats more to the outside of the calf by standing with the foot on a block/incline and twisting the thigh on the lower leg.

The catching is still there though. I like running because of the cardio aspect. Other stuff just doesnt seem to get the heart rate up enough and give me the happy buzz. (sorry if this sounds like whinging when theres some people on here who are having trouble walking)

I remember putting my back out years ago (over extension i think) and suffered with it for months. The strange thing was the one thing that cured it was weight training, which i doubt is what alot of GP's would subscribe.

Anyway, if i get improvements from these new exercises i'll let you know !