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Offline spilsey

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Physio Taping...
« on: April 30, 2012, 11:37:00 AM »
Hi Everyone :)

I've been going to PT for my RK for about a month now after my TTT in late december. While I was there he suggested taping for my other knee as I'm waiting for surgery on that one and it is still dislocating. The first time the tape was ok.. horrible to get off but other than that fine. But now I'm getting a really ichy red bumpy rash where the tapes been stuck on - especially on the more sensitive skin on the inside of the knee. Has anyone else experienced this? Any alternatives ? Or know how to fix it? I still need to wear the tape so removing it without an alternative isnt really a solution.

So is this an allergy? or what?

Thanks :)

Rebecca
Patella Alta and Trochlea Dysplasia

12/11 --> TTT (RK)
          --> Lateral Release (RK)
12/12 --> TTT
          --> Lateral Release (LK)
          --> RK Screw Removal
07/14 --> LK Screw Removal

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 05:41:57 PM »
Hi there,

When I was using the physiotape a few months ago my PT insisted that I do no more than 3 days with it on, then remove it and leave the tape off for at least 24 hours before replacing it.  Your skin needs to breathe and you can get the same type of rash anywhere from tape that is left on too long.  It could be allergic, but more likely just on too long.  If you warm the tape with a hair dryer it comes off better and plain olive oil or even better coconut oil takes off the rest.  The coconut oil is also very gentle for your skin as a moisturizer after the tape is off-any lotion with fragrance or a lot of chemicals will make the rash worse.

Good luck :)

Linda
>20 yrs. osteo and inflammatory arthritis, fibromyalgia
meniscus repair Sept. 2009
right PKR June 2010
left PKR Feb. 2012

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 06:13:22 PM »
it could be an allergic reaction.  The first time I had taping, the physio told me that if I had a lot of persistant itching then I was to take the tape off right away.
Feb 08 Inurred right knee
18 months of physio, knee tracking but knee still painful
Aug 09 Scope - Small tear in acl, fragment found in postereo-lateral compartment, suprapatella and lateral plica and small defect in mfc.
May 10 Right knee feeling better but left knee causing trouble as a result o

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 09:57:18 PM »
Hi :)

Thanks for the replies,

I'll definitely try the tip about the hair dryer and oil. Sounds like it would help alot :) I think the longest  i've left the tape on is three days and i've been letting my skin breathe but maybe I should cut down some more and just use it for physio and when i have to do something which will make my knee more likely to dislocate.

kscope9 - what did you do instead of the taping then?? Did you just go without??

Thanks again :)

Rebecca
Patella Alta and Trochlea Dysplasia

12/11 --> TTT (RK)
          --> Lateral Release (RK)
12/12 --> TTT
          --> Lateral Release (LK)
          --> RK Screw Removal
07/14 --> LK Screw Removal

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 02:46:33 AM »
Hey Rebecca,

I've recently experienced a mild allergic reaction to the adhesive material in my wound dressings that was incredibly itchy and presented as a bumpy, red rash. I was given the all clear to apply Calamine Lotion and am taking antihistamines for a few days until it settles.

I'm certainly not diagnosing you as having an allergic reaction, simply sharing that my Dr said it wasn't uncommon for adhesive substances in dressings and tapes to cause this.

Lastly, I'm not sure what type of tape you're using but be aware that certain types react with heat to enable them to stick to the skin so I'd just make sure that using a dryer isn't going to do to opposite of what you're hoping for.

Good luck and I hope it clears up soon.

 :) Karen
Sep 10 - confirmed ACL & medial meniscus tear
Dec 11 - chronic patellar dislocation - MPFL tear
23 Feb 12 - scope, MUA & 50% medial meniscectomy
17 Apr 12 - ACLr and MPFLr

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 08:55:33 AM »
Hi Karen,

Did you continue to use the tape after the reaction? I've just been moisturising it so it doesnt get too dry at the moment but i dont want to start taking antihistamines until i know for definate its a reaction. I'm going to see my Physio on thursday so i'll ask him about it then.

I'll bear that in mind - about the hairdryer - wouldnt want it too stick more than it already is haha :)

Thanks for your reply :)

Rebecca
Patella Alta and Trochlea Dysplasia

12/11 --> TTT (RK)
          --> Lateral Release (RK)
12/12 --> TTT
          --> Lateral Release (LK)
          --> RK Screw Removal
07/14 --> LK Screw Removal

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 02:38:03 PM »
is it not possible to tape over a tubular bandage ?

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 09:27:04 PM »
Hi Rebecca,

My reaction was from dressings applied over my surgical wounds as opposed to strapping tape so I've been able to remove that.

Perhaps your physio has another brand/type of tape that can be used instead??

 :) Karen
Sep 10 - confirmed ACL & medial meniscus tear
Dec 11 - chronic patellar dislocation - MPFL tear
23 Feb 12 - scope, MUA & 50% medial meniscectomy
17 Apr 12 - ACLr and MPFLr

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 09:59:07 PM »
Hi Everyone,

seantomtom- i havent thought of that but if it was just sticking to the bandage, how would it be able to pull you knee cap across without twisting or stretching which would do nothing for the knee??

Karen - I'll ask him tomorrow about other tapes. Hopefully he'll have some hypoallergenic ones or something like that :)

Thank you for your repies!

Rebecca
Patella Alta and Trochlea Dysplasia

12/11 --> TTT (RK)
          --> Lateral Release (RK)
12/12 --> TTT
          --> Lateral Release (LK)
          --> RK Screw Removal
07/14 --> LK Screw Removal

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 06:42:11 AM »
I've been using Kinesio tape.. It hurts to pull off but haven't had any reactions to it though my skin is not very sensitive.. Really helps with support though!
Have had tilted kneecaps for many years, and occasional patellar tendinitis.

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2012, 10:06:22 AM »
Hey kneepaincure,

Thanks for the reply! I'll definatly have a look at Kinesio tape. Can you buy it in Australia?

Rebecca
Patella Alta and Trochlea Dysplasia

12/11 --> TTT (RK)
          --> Lateral Release (RK)
12/12 --> TTT
          --> Lateral Release (LK)
          --> RK Screw Removal
07/14 --> LK Screw Removal

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2012, 11:19:45 AM »
Hey Rebecca,

We sure can get it here in Oz!

Have a peep here: http://www.physiosupplies.com.au/fitness/Kinesiology-Kinesio-Sports-Strapping-Tapes.html

There are plenty of websites like this where you'd be able to order it and what's more, we have some qualified taping practioners (mostly physiotherapists) who can either tape you or show you how to use it:

http://www.kinesiotaping.com.au/

Let me know how you go! Where in Oz are you, if you don't mind my asking?

 :) Karen
Sep 10 - confirmed ACL & medial meniscus tear
Dec 11 - chronic patellar dislocation - MPFL tear
23 Feb 12 - scope, MUA & 50% medial meniscectomy
17 Apr 12 - ACLr and MPFLr

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2012, 12:09:27 PM »
Hi Karen :)

I'm in Melbourne! Where are you from? (I'm assuming your in oz haha)

I had a look at those sites.. it looks really good and not really that expensive either compared to the normal stuff. I'll definitely look into getting some and talk to my physio about it aswell :)

Thanks,

Rebecca
Patella Alta and Trochlea Dysplasia

12/11 --> TTT (RK)
          --> Lateral Release (RK)
12/12 --> TTT
          --> Lateral Release (LK)
          --> RK Screw Removal
07/14 --> LK Screw Removal

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2012, 01:24:03 PM »
No! i was never allergic.  I was just saying that the physiotherapist warned me that some people do have allergic reactions.

I went back at elast another 3 or 4 tiems to ahve the knee taped and it really helped.
Feb 08 Inurred right knee
18 months of physio, knee tracking but knee still painful
Aug 09 Scope - Small tear in acl, fragment found in postereo-lateral compartment, suprapatella and lateral plica and small defect in mfc.
May 10 Right knee feeling better but left knee causing trouble as a result o

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Re: Physio Taping...
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 07:26:02 PM »
You're welcome Rebecca. The site that Karen linked to shows the smaller rolls of Kinesio tape. It doesn't last very long especially if you use it regularly. I found that out the hard way (bought mine from Amazon for $12 USD). The larger roll that they sell on Amazon is about $50 USD which would last a long time. I haven't done the calculations regarding the length of the two rolls so I don't know which one is more cost effective, but you could find that out easily.

Good luck to you!
Have had tilted kneecaps for many years, and occasional patellar tendinitis.















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