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Hi im 14 and i hurt my right knee 9 months ago running around a cone and my foot got stuck in the ground nd i turned with my other leg of the ground.i heard a loud pop and the person running beside my also heard it,my leg and knee locked up and felt as doe my knee cap pulled up my leg i could not walk afterwards and every step was excruciating pain.there was little or no difference from where my knee cap stopped and my shin started.i went to a physio a doctor and 2 specialists and have had 2 mri scans and 1  arthroscopy none of the people listed could figure out what happened my knee.9 months after and my knee still will slip out of place when i squat down or step awkwardly,if i turn with my weight on that foot my knee feels extremely sore on the outer right of my right knee.I researched it and asked my physio and he agreed that i could have dislocated it and relocated it,If anyone has any idea what might have happened to my knee i would really appreciate it thanks  :)

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 08:49:37 PM »

when you say slip out of place, is it the kneecap that dislocates/slips, or do you feel something else?


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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 08:51:45 PM »
when i say slip out i mean the entire knee as doe the kneecap is the only thing in its normal place

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 09:00:46 PM »
does it slip in a particular direction?  Its really hard to say the problem, just a guess maybe ACL or possibly the patella tendon (the thick tendon just under the kneecap) had torn/partially torn

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 09:04:34 PM »
it slips forward right . the surgeon was expecting to find an acl tear but it was just extremely lax i had it in a knee brace for 2 weeks from my hip to ankle.there was alot of fluid behind the kneecap but no damage to the patella tendon.

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 09:13:22 PM »

must be frustrating at 14 to be dealing with this, i've had my share of problems at a young age too .. so i feel for you

i'm guessing  you've been through physiotherapy / strengthening, but this has not been effective?

are you in the USA, what state? 

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2011, 09:20:38 PM »
yes it is very..no im from ireland i missed a tournament that only comes around every 4 years at a certain age group because of my knee i was hoping to play even doe i still had stitches in my knee.yes i have had over 100 physio sessions and have been trough 3 strengthening courses  i am in the middle of my 4th one but every time i try and do a single leg squat my knee shakes and quivers under me

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2011, 11:00:12 AM »
Hi
This is a photo of a knee where the kneecap has dislocated out of place (patellar dislocation) - http://www.boneclinic.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Dislocation-of-knee.jpg

How does yours compare with this?

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2011, 11:08:46 AM »
Hi again
If you look at this YouTube video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1QkdZjgilA - when the man is seated you can see him 'dislocating' the posterolateral corner where the ligaments there have torn. This area of the knee is complex, and tears here are often missed by the doctor.
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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2011, 11:12:25 AM »
In this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FovJWpfi7IU - where the ACL is torn, the abnormal movement is different, as you can see. It is more a forwards movement of the tibia under the femur, compared to the posterolateral instability, which is rotatory in nature.

How does your abnormal movement look compared to these three examples?
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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2011, 08:47:54 PM »
Out of the three examples you have posted the symptoms were alot like the second example..there is still a lump like he has in the video but the surgeon cut trough that spot also if i squat down i hear a loud pop and something moves across the outside of knee which did not happen before the injury

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2011, 11:02:35 PM »
Hi again
I realise that you have had two MRIs and one scope, although you do not say what was found at the scope nor what was done surgically at that time, but clearly this has been a significant injury.

The type of injury, the loud pop, the locking up, the disfigurement, and the continuation of symptoms suggests to me that there was internal soft tissue disruption, and it seems as if there still is. I wonder if there was damage to your posterolateral corner, with ongoing instability there?

This course by Dr Noyes is a bit difficult to follow, but maybe you and your parents could read through it and discuss it with your doctor - http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEnotes/node/2073 - or come back here and talk further to some of the patients in the cruciate ligament section?

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2011, 06:58:28 PM »
hi, they found a lax anterior cruciate ligament which made my knee bow severely under anesthetic even doe i could not straighten or bend my knee when i was awake it was flexed at about 30 degrees. In my mris they found alot of fluid behind my kneecap but no structural damage to the knee.Today in school when ever i went to stand up out of my seat or straighten my knee i would hear a click sometimes very loud but their was pain when it clicked not like a normal click.there  does seem to be a deeper dip at the side of my right knee cap it is slight but still noticeable.     

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2011, 07:29:34 PM »
Clicks can mean different things, but are common with meniscus tears (which often occur in association with cruciate ligament tears).

With your ongoing symptoms it seems to me that there are still problems inside your knee, and further evaluation by a knee specialist is appropriate.

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Re: injured my right knee 9 months ago still not right!,2 mri's 1 scope
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2011, 07:30:57 PM »
I am not sure who did your surgery, but just for your information we have a list of UK and Eire knee surgeons -

http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEnotes/node/377

http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEnotes/node/396
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