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Offline Snowy

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2010, 05:27:04 PM »
Oh - here's another thought when it comes to flexibility. Northern Ireland falls under the NHS - is there any way you could go to the mainland UK for treatment? Or if you were going through your private insurance company, you might even find that you could book into a private clinic more or less immediately (I could have seen a surgeon in 3 days if I'd been able to afford private treatment here.)

Traveling for surgery isn't ideal as you'd have to get home again afterwards; obviously if you had friends or family you could stay with for a few days that would make it easier. However, it might be worth considering if it saves you a much longer wait to have the surgery. If you were going through your private insurance, you might even find that they would cover the cost of staying in hospital or in a hotel for a few days.
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Mar 11: R Biceps femoris tear (skiing)
Jul 10: ACLr (hamstring autograft)
Mar 10: L ACL rupture (skiing)
Feb 06: L partial ACL tear (kickboxing)
Dec 03: R bone edema (motorbike)
Jan 01: R patellar chip (motorbike)
May 93: R ACL sprain (hockey)
Ongoing: bilateral PFS and OA

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2010, 06:20:08 PM »
REALLY don't like the idea of plane / boat travel post-op :( I know it's stupid but I don't know if I could deal with it. And the NHS are ridiculous, especially here, there are 5 different health trusts in this country alone and they struggle to transfer between each other, God knows how they'd deal with a transfer to the mainland.

So my OS' secretary rang around, basically the situation is, there are no NHS appointments at all, between now and when I'd be getting in with my current OS, provisionally the 11th of August (there are only 3 specialist knee surgeons in the country including mine). Privately, the way things are with people on holidays etc, I'd be lucky to get a consultation with one of the other surgeons before the 11th, never mind the actual op. So basically I'm screwed.

Won't know til the 26th if I'll be able to get the op on the 11th or not as the secretary is off. :(

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2010, 06:34:15 PM »
Really sorry to hear what has happened to you mate. Not much I can say, just hope this is the end of the set backs for you and when you go in for the op everything goes smoothly and you have a good recovery.

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2010, 06:39:37 PM »
Pete sorry I lost you on FB but I was saying that I dont blame you not wanting to travel just after having an op especially after hearing about how much post op pain there could be, it's not the best news, but as long as you get a deffinate appointment for the 11th of Aug its not too long to wait.
I hope you have decided to go out and party this weekend to take your mind off what you should have been doing ;D a few drinks should help with the anger and disapointment, well I hope it dose anyway a few drinks with some good friends always makes me feel better
Take care Tez      
L K injured 25th June 2008
scope Jan 5th 10
diagnosis ACL rupture
fiberous band excised from acl
ACLr July 19th 2010  scope on 24th Sept 2011
ACL has failed incorrect tunnel placement
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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2010, 07:17:29 PM »
That's really too bad. I'm guessing you've already made sure you're on their cancellation lists?

I guess the only thing to do now is really make the most of the time between now and August 11th. Do all the stuff you'll miss after surgery, keep working on the leg strengthening,  and finish up any preparation you hadn't done yet. And as Tez says, go out and drown your sorrows.

I'm really sorry this happened - there just isn't any way to lessen the frustration of having all your plans knocked for a loop. I'm sure Tony will sympathize - he was supposed to get his op at the beginning of July but is still being given such a runaround that he doesn't even have a definite date yet.
Mar 11: R Biceps femoris tear (skiing)
Jul 10: ACLr (hamstring autograft)
Mar 10: L ACL rupture (skiing)
Feb 06: L partial ACL tear (kickboxing)
Dec 03: R bone edema (motorbike)
Jan 01: R patellar chip (motorbike)
May 93: R ACL sprain (hockey)
Ongoing: bilateral PFS and OA

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2010, 12:56:39 PM »
SO...the provisional date of the 11th of August has now become the 20th of August (she did warn me that she would have to check with the OS to make sure it would be able to be fit in to the empty slot available on the 11th), so it's all fun and games :( Am on the cancellations list, but I doubt that will make any difference.

Last night I sort of mopped about with my house mates and drank quite a bit of white wine (usually prefer red, but I've found some white I actually like) and then some beer, with no headache this morning, so at least something went right. Going out tonight so may well get the hangover from hell tomorrow.

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #66 on: July 18, 2010, 05:37:18 PM »
Ack. There's not much to say in consolation - I'm glad you have a new date, but it sucks that you have to wait another month.

The only positive (and it's pretty small) is that you have another month to really work on building your quad strength. I'm finding that all the work I did building my quads, including that crazy last week of cycling up mountains, is standing me in really good stead post-op. My quads didn't shut down the way they did after injury, and I was able to do a good strong quad flex just as soon as the initial post-op pain subsided. I'm sure that's one of the reasons my leg has felt quite stable post-op and I was able to come off the crutches so fast.

Hope you had fun drowning your sorrows. Gotta stay on top of them or they learn to swim. ;)
Mar 11: R Biceps femoris tear (skiing)
Jul 10: ACLr (hamstring autograft)
Mar 10: L ACL rupture (skiing)
Feb 06: L partial ACL tear (kickboxing)
Dec 03: R bone edema (motorbike)
Jan 01: R patellar chip (motorbike)
May 93: R ACL sprain (hockey)
Ongoing: bilateral PFS and OA

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2010, 10:45:59 AM »
Ended up not going out on saturday, between the knee saga and the gf huffing somewhat, I decided I'd be much better off chilling in the house on my own. Bottle of wine, nice and relaxed, lol.

I've been thinking about all this alot over the last few days and I have managed to come up with a little list of pros and cons regarding the delay. I'll get the cons out of the way first:

Mainly the delay in getting my recovery started
Less convenient regarding work as end of July and August are the quiet times, but September, especially the start, are extrememly busy.
Have a friends wedding 8 days post-op, so I highly doubt I'd be able to make it to that :(

There are however pros:

Gives me the chance to re-evaluate what I need to do in preparation (around the house, cooking, cleaning), make sure everything's sorted
Gives me more time to work on my quad strength, which I'm thankful for as it seemd to drop off at the end of pre-hab
One other thing that occurred to me is that I'm quite happy that my OS isn't going to be on holiday straight after my surgery, that way I might be able to call him up and hassle him if I have any problems or questions

The way I look at it, I've explored the avenues open to me that I'm willing to take (i.e. anywhere I can get it done in Nothern Ireland). With that done I have no choice really but to get the head down, get on with it and keep my fingers crossed that I don't get cancelled again ;)

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2010, 06:10:00 PM »
hiya Pete looks like you are coming to terms with your wait I know the feeling of frustration you must be having but forget the con's list and concentrate on the pro's list and you'll be fine ;) ;)
A little word of advice now that I am on the other side of the drilling and chopping try and get the doctor to give you one of these knee catheters for pain cos I didnt realise how much it helped untill they stole it away from me this morning oh my god it really makes a difference  ::)
Take care Tez 
L K injured 25th June 2008
scope Jan 5th 10
diagnosis ACL rupture
fiberous band excised from acl
ACLr July 19th 2010  scope on 24th Sept 2011
ACL has failed incorrect tunnel placement
23rd July 2012 1st stage of a 2 stage ACL revision
10th May 2013 2nd stage ACL revision

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2010, 11:28:12 AM »
Well...yesterday was interesting...went to the pool and it seems I've forgotten how to swim. Couldn't get my rhythm, at all, breathing was all wrong (think I might have swallowed about half the pool) kept getting water up my nose and my left arm didn't seem to want to move properly. My right arm was moving correctly (I think, elbow bent, hand entering water narrow side first then flattening out to act as a paddle) but my left arm just felt like it was falling in to the water and not doing very much no matter how hard I concentrated on controlling the movement. Not encouraging in my quest to reach 100 lengths before the 20th :(

All tips and advice welcome, lol.

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2010, 01:13:17 PM »
I am new to this thread, so hey!

Your swimming skills sound like mine - except mine have always been like that!

100 lengths is a lot, how big is the pool?

Glad to hear that you have a date sorted now.  Assuming my op gets signed off (it's not all plain sailing even if you do have private HC), it won't be until the 23rd September.  Not very convenient probably for work either, but simply your health, well being and quality of life simply have to come first (I guess if you are self-employed it's different). 
I chose September partly as my OS is off for the last 2 weeks of August - I wasn't keen on having what is a fairly new/experimental procedure, which not many OS's seem to do before this (especially as he said he could really do with the holiday)!  I will also need help from my parents and they are away in August too. 

As you've said, it allows a good time for pre-hab (although the 20 August is only a month, not long really in the context of a whole lifetime ultimately).  See how you feel for the wedding - might be ok with crutches assuming someone else can drive you (ACLr & meniscus issue?), even if you can get along for a bit.

All the best with it :)
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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2010, 01:43:30 PM »
Welcome Vick, always glad to see a new face :D

I used to be a pretty good swimmer, I think the best I've ever done is 5K, but that was when I was round 10/11/12 years old. I hardly swam at all until a couple of years ago and it's been sporadic since and never anywhere near what I used to do. It's a 25m pool so 2.5k. I doubt I'll make it, but I'm gonna try my damndest. Will go back tomoro and try and get as many as I can do, then aim to increase it by at least 5 and hopefully 10 lengths every session after that. Will keep you all up to date ;)

Have decided 3 swims a week with weights afterwards combined with gym on the other week days for the next 4 week is my new pre-hab plan. Gf won't be happy but she'll understand (I hope, lol)

What sort of experimental procedure are you going to have? I can sympathise with the not wanting to have the surgeon off on hols after your op, give you a little extra peace of mind.

I'm not holding out much hope for the wedding, and I doubt I'll be able to drive for a while (manual car), but hey, I'm just happy to be heading in the right direction, it can be the first of many post-op sacrifices, lol.

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #72 on: July 22, 2010, 02:21:33 PM »
Pete I'm pretty sure once you get back into swimming the flow will come back aint it like riding a bike something you never forget... maybe the rhythm has just dissapeard for a while and wil gradually come back once you get back into it...
The wedding 8 days post op may still be doable as long as you can get someone to drive you and you take the crutches and use them, I would lmagine there wont be any dancing for you and depending on the pain med maybe no drinking but after thinking about all that you still think its worth while going then you go  8)
Take care Tez
L K injured 25th June 2008
scope Jan 5th 10
diagnosis ACL rupture
fiberous band excised from acl
ACLr July 19th 2010  scope on 24th Sept 2011
ACL has failed incorrect tunnel placement
23rd July 2012 1st stage of a 2 stage ACL revision
10th May 2013 2nd stage ACL revision

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #73 on: July 22, 2010, 08:28:47 PM »
I'd suggest getting a set of resistance paddles to improve your form. The small ones (or the ones with holes) won't up the resistance noticeably, but they will force you to use correct form as your arms enter the water. A nose clip, while horrible, will stop the water getting up your nose. Most of all, keep practicing - the technique will come back, but it might take a few trips to the pool for it to happen. I was in just the same position after I moved to London - I didn't swim for about 5 years (the local pool in our borough gave me two horrible ear infections on my first visits, and after that I avoided it) and had to completely re-educate myself when I got back in the water. The first couple of swims were very frustrating and then it all clicked back into place.

Tell the gf that a side effect of all your prehab will be an increasingly buff boyfriend. That should get her on board. ;)

To put the size of my pool in perspective, for me 2.5k is 18 lengths! (137m pool - longest in the world that isn't tide-filled.)
Mar 11: R Biceps femoris tear (skiing)
Jul 10: ACLr (hamstring autograft)
Mar 10: L ACL rupture (skiing)
Feb 06: L partial ACL tear (kickboxing)
Dec 03: R bone edema (motorbike)
Jan 01: R patellar chip (motorbike)
May 93: R ACL sprain (hockey)
Ongoing: bilateral PFS and OA

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Re: The Wanderer Returns
« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2010, 09:45:26 PM »
Hey, ive followed this thread and your progress, so i thought id finally chip in: mainly to say congrats on new date, even if the extra wait is a drag :( To echo what others have said, think of the positives, use it as extra time for prehab!!

While were on the topic of swimming, i dont think ive swam (even that was only messing around with a few mates, so i wouldnt exactly class it as 'proper' swimming!) for around 4/5 years now. Im off on holiday on sat, so im going to give it a go though. However, the only technique ill be employing is trying to keep my head above water ::)

Best of luck!!
March 2010: Torn ACL and meniscus damage to right knee (football)
April 2010: Arthroscopy to partially remove meniscus
October 14th: ACLr (hamstring graft) :)