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horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« on: September 29, 2003, 07:03:25 AM »
Please help.
Iwas experiencing pain when bending my right knee and could no longer squat.  It was weak and difficult to get up from the lower positions.  I saw my GP after my physio said he could do nothing further for me.  She sent me for xrays which turned up normal.  She then referred me to a knee specialist.  He sent me for an MRI. It showed that I had a horizontal tear in the posterior meniscus which didn't break through to the outside.  I spoke with my Speciialist who informed me of the choices of surgery and no surgery.  It was deemed that an arthroscopy was the best chance for repair followed by four weeks in a splint and four more weeks on crutches.  I had the op in Sep (3 wks ago).  The hospital did not give me any pain killers upon discharge.  This left me in excruciating pain once the morphine(given post op) had worn off.  Panadol did nothing.  After a sleepless night and another one rapidly approaching, I called for an after hours doctor to come and visit.  He gave me some painkillers and a prescription to get some more.  One week later, I still could not walk, and was still experiencing a lot of pain.  My foot feels tingly as well. I visited the spec. who could not believe that I was still unable to walk and was in so much pain.  He couldn't offer any reason for this but told me to 'take it easy' and renewed my painkiller prescription.  I started doing the quad exercises.  At two weeks I could manage to use the crutches to walk.  My knee is still swollen.  I am unable to touch a large area around my knee because it is almost numb.  This area has slowly decreased.
At three weeks, my agility on crutches is improving.  I am still on nightly and some daily painkillers.  I still can't touch the front area around and below my knee.  The scars are healing nicely.  My foot goes dark purple when I am up for a period of time.  I'm told this is due to the blood pooling and not being circulated well enough by my muscles.  Apparently this will go.  
I want to know if there is anyone out there who can help me.  How long is this going to take?  Why can't I touch my knee?  It is swollen and hot.   >:(  Fed up
« Last Edit: September 29, 2003, 07:04:07 AM by sienna »
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2003, 07:30:16 AM »
Hi Sienna:
I am so sorry to hear of your latest difficulties, but if it is hot, swollen and tender to touch I would get it checked out asap to rule out blood clot or a dvt.  I would call your doctor first thing in the morning.  Do you have a fever with this???  Last August I had ankle surgery, and when I got out of my cast my leg turned red, hot and swollen and I couldn't touch it, my doc told me to get to the ER to rule out a blood clot, and sure enough that is what I had.  Was put on a blood thinner for three months and seemed to clear it up.
Don't mean to scare you, but please call your doc and get it looked at.  Keep us posted.
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2003, 07:53:50 AM »
 I would also check into the blood clot issue, as after each of my surgeries, i am prescribed asprin for blood thinning. also the numbness of your kneee, i have the same and it is ok to touch the area, your nerves have possibly been cut during surgery but sensation should return, my did first time around except for an area they told me i would not get sensation back in.  communicate with your surgeon, if you hurt, call him, if foot turns purple call him.  are you supposed to weight bear with the knee?  i am a week post surgery and can not weight bear, butt i have mastered crutches except in tight areas, tho i only move around my house.
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2003, 07:55:30 AM »
Thanks for your reply, Kolleen.  I'm only new at this.
I don't have a fever and my knee is not red.  It's just swollen and hot.  Someone did ask me about  DVT before.  Thanks for asking.  I am scheduled to see my spec. tomorrow.  Boy has he got some questions to answer!
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2003, 08:02:58 AM »
Hi Neil,
No I am not supposed to weight bear as far as I know.  I had wondered if there was some nerve damage.  I don have a two inch long scar on the inside of my knee.  I think the spec had trouble reaching the tear.  Also I read that for fixing posterior tears they have to hyper extend you knee.  That may also be responsible for the extra pain.  Keep going with the crutches.  You'll get there.  I have mastered most tight areas including the toilet but only because there is a hand rail on the wall that was there when we bought the house.   Thank goodness I didn't bother to take it off!  However when I'm tired my coordination is not that good.  It's better than the office chair and plank of pine that I was using for two weeks post op.
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2003, 12:04:14 PM »
hi everyone,
I saw my spec for the second post op visit.  I had some questions for him this time.  I asked him about the hypersensitivity around my knee.  he said  it was probably due to some nerve stretching.  I didn't think nerves would stretch that much but would break.  but that was what he said.  I also asked him why there was still so much pain and swelling.  He said it would go down in time and everyone reacts differently.  Then I asked him if he thought my injury would heal.  He hoped so.  Didn't sound all too convincing but said it was better that he'd repaired it and not had to remove it.  I asked how much was actually torn.  His answer blew me away. :o He said it was the whole length of the posterior part of the meniscus and that I would have lost a lot of the meniscus if he removed it.  :'( Not happy.  This injury all started when I was kicked by a student at work.  Now I could be stuck with it long term.  I don't want to be too negative but at the moment I can't help it.  Anyway I start pt next week.  More pain.....
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2003, 02:57:10 AM »
Sorry to hear you're having such a rough time of it.  Hopefully it will heal. Meniscal tears heal very slowly due to the lack of blood supply to the meniscus itself. It could be several months before you're back to normal. Take it easy, and don't be afraid to complain or call the doc if you think something's wrong. Better to ask, then suffer through something that they could fix! No question is dumb. The worst case scenario I could imagine is that you don't have much success with it mending itself, and you end up having to have the knee scoped and have a partial menisectomy (remove the torn part).  The recovery time for that is much shorter, just so you know. I have had 2 partials and with the last one in Jan, I was off crutches entirely in 3 weeks.

I hope things improve for you. I found that using icepacks a lot helps dull the pain. You might try it. Elevating your knee above the heart and icing it can help bring down the swelling. Flex your foot back and forth while the knee's  elevated to get the circulation going. That can help the swelling as well.

with regards to being kicked by a student at work, if you are in the US, have you looked into if this all falls into worker's comp?? There's a time limit to notify one's superiors at work, if worker's comp may apply to you.

Anyway, take it easy, hope it gets better for you soon.
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2003, 06:54:37 AM »
Thanks dm.
I am in Australia and fortunately this has come under workers
comp.  I can't ice the injury because of some nerve damage below and around my knee.  It is hypersensitive and unable to stand touch.  I have used wet cloths with success.  I even tried freezing the cloth but it was just too cold and burned the area.  Thankfully this area has slowly decreased but still remains untouchable below the knee where I am experiencing the most pain.  My spec doesn't want to remove any meniscus because he says I am too young.  I guess it's good that he wants to try other things first.  
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2003, 07:23:05 AM »
Update.
I saw my spec last Tuesday.  He was not very forthcoming with info unless I asked hime something specific.  He said that the hypersensitive area below my knee  is probably due to some 'nerve stretching' and would 'go away in time'.   Not very helpful.  He also said that the entire posterior horn was torn and that I would have lost  a lot of meniscus if he had taken it out.  That distressed me a lot.  anyway he wants me to start pt on Thursday.  I'm a bit worried because of the hypersensitive area and the swelling still around the knee.  I'm tired of being told that I should be walking and I should not be in so much pain and that it should not be so swollen.  this is of course followed by everyone is different and reacts differently.    but then they still expect me to reach the same goals in the same time.  Man, does anyone else get that?  My injury is taking a long time so why can't they pace my recovery accordingly to suit my needs?!      >:(
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2003, 08:17:50 PM »
Sienna-
I know that you are very frustrated right now about the "generalized" answers you are getting.  I agree with you totally.

I hit a roadblock/setback post op because of my fall.  I too had meniscus repair/anchoring and my OS told me that removal would have been worse because of the location of the tear and the amount of meniscus that would have had to come out.

And yes, I get the "everyone heals differently..." answer quite regularly myself.  I had been meeting all of my "post-op goals" until I fell on my crutches, and since then have been having more & more problems with my knee :-[.  So far, I am getting no answers and it does wear on the patience quite a bit.

I am truly sorry that you are having a bad time with this, but please know that you are not alone.  I know that doesn't help much, but we are here for you- and many of us are feeling quite a bit like you are.

Do things at your own pace and if the OS & PT say otherwise, just explain to them exactly what you are feeling and remind them that they themselves have told you that everyone reacts/heals/recovers differently and that they need to remember that when they start generalizing your needs.

Please keep the faith & be strong- this is your body and your recovery.  I hope things get better for you & please feel free to vent with us.

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2003, 06:55:11 AM »
Thanks Lezlee.
I just read your latest response and wish you extra good luck
Yes I am starting to get frustrated with it all.  It takes so long to do anything simple.  I even have to plan when I go to the toilet  :P  And I know that lots of you have felt this before and I really appreciate the support  :)  Thanks.
My knee is feeling a little better today so far.  I can see a little more of my kneecap through the swelling.  And I can move it a little further as well.  
And as for the 'everyone is different' phrase, I think I will scream if someone says it to me again!  It will probably be my pt so I hope he's ready!   I have also had this dream about kicking him in the face after he touches some part of my knee.  It is a reflex action but it worries me.  I hope it doesn't come true. :-/  I will warn him of course, and then he will just have to suffer the consequences......
Oh well.  All will be revealed on Thursday.
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2003, 05:29:35 PM »
Best of luck to you on Thursday.  You might want to put a couple extra pairs of socks on that foot, or maybe even a boxing glove to help soften the blow if you do actually end op kicking the PT. (sorry- bad joke, I know)

Seriously though- from one crutch walker to another- good luck to you!  Have a great day & take care of that knee!!  Please let us know how it goes for you!

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2003, 05:47:01 AM »
Oh Ozzybug,
I couldn't help laughing at your sock suggestion.  Maybe it's not such a bad idea!  ;D  I will keep everyone up to date.
I'm 4wks post today and taking small baby steps at a time.
Thanks for your support Lezlee.  ;)
From one crutch walker to another.
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2003, 11:12:53 AM »
Well I had my first pt today.  I didn't sleep well last night worry about it.  I went and saw my class of kids first. They were sooooo excited to see me that they didn't know what to do with themselves.  It was so cute.  Then they had to show all of the work they had been doing.  It's great to see kids loving to learn.  Anyway everyone had said that I had lost weight.  I knew I had because of surgery knocking me around but they said I'd lost more.  I'm a bit concerned because I can't afford to lose any more weight.   Sorry to those who are trying to lose weigth but the problem yo have with getting it off is just the same for me trying to keep it on.
Anyway back on track.  I was so stressed about pt that I was crying before he had even started.  The thought of the amount of pain I was in post op was just too much.  Luckily for me, he is a very understanding pt.  I have been to him before and he was good but we used to joke about him liking to cause pain because that's what pt's do.  But he was really wonderful.  He was very gentle and patient and once he started it wasn't as bad as I thought.  I was so worried about the nerve damage but he had experienced it, too.  He has just had some knee recon two months ago.  I am just so relieved.   He's given me some exercises to do.  I have to try to straighten and bend my knee.  Apparently I should have been bending it a lot sooner but my os never told me.  My pt said he was a good surgeon but agreed that post op he was not so good.  Anyway I am fully confident that I will go well with my pt and I trust him to do the right thing by me.  Trust is a big thing, isn't it?  
PS I told him about the sock thing and he laughed, a little.  I think he was a bit wary but I also think it helped him to realise the trouble I'd been having.
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2003, 10:35:30 PM »
Sienna-

I am soo soo happy to hear that PT went well for you.  This is one of those post-op "triumphs" you know.  Kepp it up.  Keep on going because you can do this.

Sounds like you are a teacher?  Wasn't it nice to be able to see the kids again?  And the fact that they were so proud of their work and wanted to share it with you speaks highly of your abilities in that department.

Yeah, I can see how the PT might be wary, especially if you told him that you were afraid you might give him the ole kick-a-roo!

I went for my second opinion today, and the new OS has scheduled me for a 2nd arthroscopy at 1:00 p.m. tomorrow!  I won't go in to details- I posted those on the crisis board under my original post of "Growing more & more concerned".  If you want to take a look you can go there.

Again, I am sovery ahppy for you and hope that you will continue to do better each & every day.  You are on the right path, and soon I will be as well.

I think that light at the end of the tunnel may just be getting brighter!! ;)

This crutch walker must bid a fond farewell for now.  I'll let you know how it goes when I am back from surgery and able to get to the computer!!

Good thoughts are coming your way!!

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2003, 07:20:50 AM »
Lezlee,
I have been keeping track of your travels on the crisis board.  As I said there, we'll be thinking of you.
Thanks for continued responses.  I really appreciate hearing from you.
I feel reallygood about my knee.  About the best so far.  There was an exercise that I couldn't do yesterday but this morning I could do it.  ;D  I now have to the fake walking to get my knee used to walking again.  My pt wants to get rid of the splint as soon as possible (but when I'm ready).  Apart from the bending issue,  everything else seems to going on track.  Finally it's good to have someone treating me who understands where I'm coming from.  It makes such a difference.  He wants to see me again on Monday.  I have to be able to bend my knee another 20 degrees.  So it's full steam ahead.  Hopefully my knee will cooperate with my new goal.
I thought I'd try standing for my first shower today.  Up till now, the joint has been too wobbly.  but today I think I'll give it a go.
Anyway, we will catch up soon.  

PS  Make sure you consider the two things I told you to do on the crisis board.  I've been there and done that and it was easier with those two things.

PPS.  Yes I am a teacher.  It has been wonderful to see my kids enjoy learning so much.  They love it.  I'm using a particular phonics/literacy program, Letterland.  They can't get enough.  and what's more, they are remembering it despite their intellectual impairments.  ;D ;D
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2003, 09:00:58 AM »
Hi all,
Went to pt today.  I have made some progress.  More details are in the 'meniscus: tear recovery and the future' section.  I have a long way to go.  My pt told workcover that I would be off work for at least another 4wks.  That takes me to 14th Nov.  Then I would expect to return to light duties part time.  We'll play it by ear.  I'll be lucky to return to full duties by the end of the school year (12 Dec).  My teaching partner, teacher aides and boss won't be too happy with this but it's not my fault.  I'm not putting myself back into a potentially dangerous situation before I'm ready.  In the mean time, I'm sitting at home twiddling my thumbs.  I hope to be able to drive soon.  I'm still looking at another couple of weeks on crutches.  I don't know if my wrists can take it.  There is only so much padding you can put on the handles.....
On the brighter side of things, I don't really need the splint anymore.   ;D  I would like a hinged brace to wear when out and about just to protect me from the idiots out there.  
Did I mention that I want to drive?!?!  
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2003, 11:06:30 AM »
I had pt again today.
He really hurt me this time.  He finally got my knee to bend to 90 degrees but not without a few tears of pain.  Damn quads just above the knee cap.  It just won't let go. >:( :'(  And there is one other patch of ligament across the knee beside my kneecap that really hurts.  If it wasn't for those two things I be laughing.  My knee is quite willing to bend except for those two spots.  I also have to be careful of some scar tissue forming under one of the incisions.  It is puckering which indicates that it is sticking.  Not good.  We made a deal today.  pt will work on the knee joint itself with massaging which I can't handle (it hurts too much) and I will massage the quads and calf.  I can handle digging my elbow and fist into my quad to massage it.  I will start partial weight bearing on Friday and I hope to try driving next week.  So I have goals to aim for.  Just have to stay on track. :-/
I also managed to keep ice on my knee for the first time today.  ;D  The nerve damage is very slowly desensitising.  Still can't feel the patella tendon directly below my kneecap.  At least now I can ice it to get the swelling down. :)
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2003, 10:02:17 PM »
Sienna-
Ok, I'm back on the boards, but only for short periods of time right now.  I've missed talking with you guys alot.  Funny how that goes, I don't technically "know" ya'll, but I feel as though I was missing some dear friends that I have known for some time?! ;)

Sounds like you are keeping things moving in the right direction with your PT.  I know it gets to you when you seem to hit a "road block", but just keep going the way you are because you are obviously making some really great progress!  I am so proud of you.

You seem to be setting realistic goals for yourself which is a good thing.  Setting goals too high can lead to some major let-downs.  I myself am a very impatient person and normally want big results like- NOW!! :P  I guess that is why I'm having such a hard timed adjusting to all of this "can you carry my purse?", "Oh, do you mind holding that door for me?", "I'm sorry honey, mom can't get down on the floor and play because my knee really hurts right now."  yadda  yadda  yadda :-[

Yes- the driving situation is one of the really bad parts of having your right knee temorarily "out-of-order".  I miss hopping in the car and getting around.

Enough about me though- this is your thread.  Girl- please keep that positive attitude that you seem to have going- it will get you far.  Like I have said many times before- Even the baby steps are a step forward.  I truly hope that you will continue to see improvement every day, and now that you can stand to have ice on that knee of yours, use it.

By the way- how did your first "standing" shower go?  Good I hope, but be very careful though.  If you drop the soap, leave it there!  Even if you haven't finished washing a few body parts- just start with the important one first.  Or here's a thought- you could always get some of that soap on a rope stuff? 8)  I think though that only old spice makes that- how do you feel about smelling like a manly man?

Well, sorry to ramble and say some really stupid things, but I guess it's better to laugh than keep dwelling on the bad stuff.

I'm very happy for you Sienna and hope to keep getting good news from you.  Keep us posted!!  Take care of that knee! ;)

Lezlee

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2003, 08:26:25 AM »
Hi Lezlee,
This is take 2.  I have had the most trying time trying to get this stinking computer to work.  >:( And now hoepfully I'll get to finish my post.
I like your idea of Old spice soap on a rope.  Thankfully my bath tub is not slippery when wet.  But I'll be careful when showering.
I know how you feel about being impatient. I also want things to happen know and not at their earliest convenience.
I am currently feeling sore and stiff from yesterday's pt.  He finally got it to 90 degrees but not without tears and a lot of fist clenching.  Damn knee won't bend.  Actually it's not the knee itself.  It wants to bend quite happily - it's the quads tendon and a medial ligament over the joint that's holding me up.  Very painful.  :'( >:(  
At least on Friday I'll be starting to do some weight bearing.  I guess that's some progress.  But if I can't get this knee bending then my os will want to operate and make it bend.  I don't want to be anywhere near that road.  :-[
Ao I guess it's lots of pain and little movement and lots of patience of which I am in short supply.  Sorry to be down but I am sooooooo sick of this running my life.   I don't know how long term sufferers cope.  I don't think I would be able to.  
Thanks for making me smile, Lezlee.  ;D
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2003, 05:44:56 PM »
Sienna-
You are more than welcome.  I am happy to help- even if it is only with a little smile here & there.  I tend to be silly sometimes.  I get it from my son.  He has rubbed off on me.  I get the mushy gushy lovey dovey stuff from my daughter as she is the "lover" of the family.  I seem to learn something new from them on a regular basis.

I hope that you won't need surgery to get that knee bending.  Are we talking manipulation under anesthesia, or something more involved?  You seem to be trying so very hard to do your part.  Sounds like you keep on going and work through the pain.

It would be so easy to just give up and stay away from the pain, but you just keep going!  It's ok to cry- sometimes, I find tears tend to help some.

Just think of how far you have come so far.  I never even made it to PT after my first surgery so you are deffinately ahead of my ball game.  I wounder if my new OS will put me in PT this time?  If so, I will be coming to yoou guys for guidance & support.  I've never had to have someone else make my body parts do their thing, so I'm sure I'm gonna have to put on my "good-attitude" outfit that day??!!

Please do not ever apologize for being down- it just means that you are human, and these feelings are only natural when you are having to deal with lifes little (or even big) practical jokes.  Just know that you are doing the right thing.  I have faith in you girl!!

Hugs & many good PT days. And best of luck with your upcoming weight bearing day.  Be careful & let me know how it goes for you!

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2003, 11:20:31 AM »
No tears today!  8)  Mind you he didn't push as much as last time in the sore areas.  He stuck to massaging the ligaments and tendons around the knee.  I made it just passed the infamous 90 degrees!!!! ;D ;D  Boy was it a struggle but I made it.  Now I have to keep it over the weekend.  Has a go just before but only made 80 an a bit but in all fairness I had not done much bending today.  Still recuperating from pt.  He was happy with my progress.  I know I've come a long way, sometimes it's hard to see where you've been to put everything in perspective.  So I'll just keep pladding along.  I am ghost walking on it alot to give my wrists a break.  
Apparently I can officially get rid of the crutches next week.  We'll see how it goes.  I've got some more strengthening exercises to do to build up the quads.  They're looking pretty sorry, so my pt says.  All in good humour.  He's really good.  So lucky to have someone helping me who has been there and done that.  
I'm doing okay all things considered.
I'm glad you're feeling better too.  It helps togo to pt  because if you're anything like me, I'm not very good at self motivation when it comes to inflicting pain on myself.  It's good to have someone to help you along the way.  Go to pt if you can.  Even if you're doing okay yourself, it's good to have someone walking with you.
Well, I'm oof to another movie soon.  Now that I'm more able I can go out and do these things.  Catch up soon.
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2003, 05:41:26 PM »
Sienna-

I had a neighbor whos husband suffered a severe injury and was bed-ridden for a very very long time.  He bgan to slip into a deep depression, so his wife bought him a journal and had him write in it every day.  He bagan with rating his pain on a scale of 1 to 10, and then he would write small bits in it throughout the day about how he was feeling, or any thing he felt was important.  He soon came out of the depression because he was able to look back in the journal, and see (in black & white) the progress he was making.  Before that, like you said, he had nothing to go by to let him know where he was in recovery.

Now- on to PT.  I am ok with working through pain because I am stubborn.  I think that if I was in PT, I might would hold back because of other people being around.  I am ok with crying, but if there is a room full of other people, it would distract me & I might would tend to give up more readily.  Does that make sense to you?  Or am I "bass-akwards"?

You made it past 90 degrees?!! ;DBoy oh boy, I can not wait for the day that I can tell you that I'm able to do that.  I am however, elated that for the first time since August 28th, I am able to straighten that leg out flat!  So, as you are getting your leg to go one way, I'm trying to go the other way.

Are you nervous about ditching the crutches next week?  Although they get in the way, and are a pain to have to deal with, we kind of grow to rely on them.  And about those quads- tell that PT of yours to look at the "good" quads and dream on baby!!! hehe

You know, I have learned a lot about recovery from you Sienna.(as well as many others from the boards)  I think that you have shown me the strength that we all have deep down inside of ourselves.  I'm going to have to remember that when it comes time for me to start the real PT part of recovery.

Have a great weekend- and as always- keep up the good work.  We are proud of you!

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2003, 06:45:24 AM »
Yes I'm nervous about ditching the crutches.  How else am I going to get sympathy when I'm out and about?  ???  Everyone opens and closes the doors and they get out of the way and they carry things for you.  It's great.  
Oh well,  I guess it had to come to an end eventually.  
I don't how I'll go.  I've been ghost walking quite heavily on my other leg for  4 days now but I can only seem to put a certain amount of weight on it then it won't take any more.  I can put my leg in front of me and put almost my whole body weight on it but when I stand feet apart I can only put less than half.  It's really weird.  I've told my pt about it.  He said these things happen.  

Last night I had a scare.  I was in the toilets and I decided to blow my nose and on the way I slipped on some water.  
My crutches are not water proof.  Of course my reaction was to put my sore knee out in front to catch myself.  Ow  :-X  It jarred my knee joint.  I was not happy. I just stood there waiting for the pain and shock to subside.  There was a nice old lady who saw me and she waited to make sure I was okay.  How sweet.  I also had a friend with me.  Thankfully there seems to be no damage done.  but how close was that.  And how NOT ready is my knee for everyday little hitches.  

I am so stiff.  I'll have to do a lot of work today so I can keep that 90 degrees for pt tomorrow.  It's not fair.  I have to get out of bed early tomorrow to make pt.  I will have to get up at 9am. :o  Yes I can hear the incredulous shock over here.  Normally I don't get out of bed until 10.30 - 11am.  Of course that is after doing 20min of exercises in bed.  I am so tired after starting pt.  I don't know how I will cope going back to work.  Especially since it takes forever to do anything with crutches and a knee that won't bend.   :P
Well I hopt his finds everyone in good spirits.   :)
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2003, 05:50:27 PM »
Sienna-

Even I got a twinge of pain in my knee when I read about your "accident" in the bathroom- I guess that might be a little clue that personal hygeine isn't all it's cracked up to be afterall. (joking)

And yes, how can you get people to open doors for you when you aren't in an obvious state of need?  Girl, I know what you mean.  I LOVE buzzing around the stores in that little motorized "buggy" the stores provide.  My husband laughs at me the entire time we are out and I'm "speeding" around in those things.  He calls me the next female drag racer.  I know this really isn't anything to make light about as there are so many people who are dependent on wheelchairs and such permanently, but if I don't make jokes about this- I will really get depressed.  Before all of this knee stuff, I was on the go- constantly.  Now, I can't go anywhere without someone else getting me there.

So, did I understand correctly that you are having PT on a Sunday?  Oh, come on- don't you dserve on day of rest?  I guess not if you want to whip that knee back in to shape.  Look- even when I am "off the crutches, I'm gonna keep them in my car wherever I go- just in case.  I'd hate to think of having to have anyone carry me because my knee decides to rebel.

Let me know how PT goes.  Good luck- and wishes for no tears of pain.  I am really glad that it seems there was no damage done during your slip.  My crutches have done that to me before- and immediately it's like the entire world stops for a moment until you get over the shock.

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2003, 06:38:47 AM »
No I'm having pt today, Monday, 20th.  Bit hard to keep track of the whole time thing on opposite sides of the world.
In fact I've just got back and sorry to say but there were tears of pain and frustration.  My knee just won't bend. >:( adjective, adjective, adjective.  It's the quad tendon above the knee and a tendon over the medial side.  The same places every time.  It sucks.   He also had a go at my incisions which unfortuantely are forming scare tissue.  Man he hurt!!!!
Then he says,' okay lift your leg'.  You must be joking after what you've just done.  the messages are all scrambled now.  He just looked at me and laughed.  I was serious.  How else could I describe the feeling of the message not getting through because of the swelling.  I said that it was better than saying that the dog ate my homework.  He just laughed at me more, not in a mean way but at the flimsiness of my excuse.  I'm full of good excuses.  Just ask me.   :)  Well I did manage to send the message through but it was really hard.  Don't you just hate it when you can do the exercise at home relatively comfortably but when it comes time to showing pt you can't do it.! ::)  I'm sure he doesn't believe me.

Oh man I have this itch in the numb area and when I scratch it, it doesn't register that I've scratched it.  So it keeps on itching.  What can I do?   :-/  urgh!

On a worrying point,  along my big scar it used to be really sore to touch on both sides.  Now on the top side nearer to my knee cap, it has gone numb like the nerve damaged area.  My pt said that the nerve damage wouldn't have spread and I didn't press further.  But I know that the feeling has changed.  Have you ever experienced this?  

Well I must say, Lezlee, you have cheered me up again.  Thankyou.  You are a ray of sunshine.
Catchup soon.
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2003, 09:34:15 PM »
You and I are getting really good at keeping up with umpteen posts at the same time! :)

I posted a reply to you in the nerve stretching section.  I think I also posted to you in the growing more & more concerned section too.

So, when I am having Sunday- you are having Monday.  Yes, I am having a hard time keeping up with the time difference.  I think I feel a slight case of jet-lag coming on.

I'm so sorry you had tears of pain & frustration.  It know it has got to be so hard when things don't go the way you feel they should in PT- especially when you can do some of these things at home.  I think your knee is having severe stage fright.  Along with this- you have had some bad PT days, so it is very normal to be apprehensive going back in and this may have something to do with it.

Just know that you can make it through this.  It may not be easy, and it deffinately will not be fun, but when you are able to walk again you will be giving me advice and encouragement.  If I make it to PT soon, then you and I can compare notes and horror stories with each other.  I am really worried about having to start PT.  I have a feeling that at my next visit, my OS is going to say those dreaded words, ...."Time to start some PT."  And I just know that my big sis is gonna be right there with him agreeing the whole way!!  She has a way of doing that to me.

Tanya-  During your next PT, look over onto your right shoulder and you will see the gaurdian angle I'm sending you.  You gotta look hard though because she is kind of shy.....

So, now along with wishes for good knee days- I'm sending wishes for good PT days your way via that little angle.  

Hugs & Hugs
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2003, 06:25:58 AM »
Yes the jet lag is complicated.  Nevermind.  We'll cope.  I'll try to put dates with days to make it easier.
I will look out for that shy guardian angel.  I just might need her.  Does she appear over my left shoulder just in case I get confused?

Don't worry too much about your first pt.  I was sooo stressed but he was really gentle.  I knew that if he was gentle the first time I would cope.  So your pt should be the same.  But after that ..... I don't want to scare you just yet.

I have been walking with a lot of weight on my knee today.  I have kept the crutches with me but hanging them off my arm. I can walk on it for about five steps but it tends to buckle a bit and my whole walking pattern is not correct.  I don't want to start walking with an incorrect pattern for the sake of walking on it.  I want to do a little at a time and do it correctly.  Perfect practise makes perfect.... something but I can't remember the rest of the saying.  It basically means there's no point practising heaps if it's not perfect.  You won't get anywhere in the long run.  That's from my volleyball days.  Oh my coach would be proud....
So it's baby steps for me, literally.  

As for my knee stage fright....  I keep telling myself to show my pt what I can do before he starts massaging but I always forget.  Then it's too late and I have to come up with excuses.  Just quietly, I think my excuse of 'the messages to contract my muscles get lost in the mush of swelling' is perfectly correct.  When you think about it, the main message coming from my knee is PAIN IN A BIG WAY so it's not surprising that it's ignoring everything else.  It's like trying to be heard over shouting.  Anyway it's my story and I'm sticking to it.  8)

We went to the Word cup rugby last night.  I was thinking that it may not be a good idea but when we got there, I caught a lift instead of 100's of stairs.  And they sat us where the wheelies can sit.  So I had plently of room and I could put my leg up.  Pretty good.  And I found that the toilets were of good design. (I can say that I have become a bit of a toilet design expert).  We all have our talents.
So all in all it was a good night.

I'm having a better day today so far.  Will do some exercises when I'm finished here.  It's feeling okay after yesterday's outings.  Bit surprising but I'll take it when it comes.   8)
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2003, 08:37:22 PM »
That little gaurdian angle will be where ever you need her, or, if you'd rather- I could send a strapping young male angle your way.

I used to play volleyball myself & loved it.  Softball was my downfall, or should I say the downfall of my knee.  Both sports are/were/hopefully will be again enjoybale for me.  I also piddled around with soccer (both my kids play) during the spring league.  I ended up being assitant coach and got on that field during practice as much as possible.  

You are taking a great approach to the walking.  I agree- weight bearing walking is great, but if it isn't walking correctly it's not so good.  It could lead to a long-tem bad walking pattern.

When I went in for my first procedure, I stuck a post-it note on my forhead so that there was no way I could forget the information I needed to get before going "on-stage".  I did get some pretty funny looks, but the folks at the medical center know me, so they didn't ask.  It did get a laugh or two- but that's ok.

So, I take it the rugby game went well and was enjoyable for you- that's good.  I had been hoping to get out for a little bit yesterday evening, but hubby dearest had to work late to try and meet a deadline on a new house.  I've mentioned before, but we own a plumbing company-so he makes a lot of sacrifices to keep things running smoothly.  I didn't give him a hassle about it- he is a good guy.

Besides, I had done my knee stuff and was not really happy at the moment.  Details will be in my post-op section when I finish this post.  Not the best news I'm afraid. :-[

Well- you keep on taking those baby steps- it may take a while to get where you're going- but will be sooo worth the trip!

Smiles & good wishes!!
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2003, 12:18:51 PM »
A post it note hey?!
Well not the best today.  One of those depressing days. I'm struggling to keep the two bad things in perspective.  I had a hard time at pt.  (I don't want to scare you).  I did get passed 100 but not without a LOT of pain.  You know that stomach knee bending he gets me to do, I did well by myself.  I got to 90 without help and I could do it 3 times.  then he decided to have a go.  Well I don't have to tell you how much I HATE this exercise.

I had a barny with pt too.  Finally I think he is getting the message.  He does his 'massage' stuff and kills me then he says 'show me your leg lifts.  I just look at him and frown.  Well not today.  I told him that I couldn't do it because I couldn't contract the muscles properly because of the digging around and therefore have lots of trouble and have to struggle to lift my leg.  I said I should do the leg lifts first because I can do heaps at home in bed but always struggle here and you don't believe me that I can do them.  So he said 'alright you can show me first on Friday.'  I said" fine I will.'  He said'okay, good.'  I said, 'I will show you.'  this continued a little longer then he wanted to do the stomach knee bends (I hate this the most  :'( >:( :-[)  And that shut me up pretty quick.  Until I started crying.  I just couldn't help it.  It hurt so much that I wanted to jump.  You know how much that hurt has to be in order to want to reflexively jump.  So I was not a happy camper.  

He also tried this new thing to stimulate my still unfound quad muscle ( the one on the inner side of you leg).  He put the electronic stimulus pads on my muscle so tha it would contract the muscle.  Wow it was  weird.  He wanted me to contract in time with the pulse.  I found that if I didn't keep up it felt like it was pulling my muscle apart longways. So let's just say I kept up.  I found my third quad!  Now I just have to keep it found.  That'll be the hard part trying to keep the nerve pathway open.

So I guess there was some good with the bad.  It's just he finished with the bad.  And that left me drained and frustrated.  And it was all down hill from there.  :'(

After school, a few of us went for coffee.  I had the usual, iced chocolate.  I did need it.

Tommorrow will be a better day.  I think I am slowly getting more motivated to do more exercises.  I'm at the point where I've had enough of it's uncooperative nature and now it's my turn to be in control.  Wish me luck.

PS  I did remember the guardian angel.  Thanks. I needed her.
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2003, 07:26:53 PM »
Wow- what a way to survive a day.  I don't blame you for crying.  It's kind of hard to continue doing those excersises while someone stands there watching you hurt and cry and push on just to make it to the end.

And you have every right to tell your PT that you would prefer to do the lef lifts before the massage.  This is your body and your recovery- so if it makes the leg lifts easier, then the PT should agree.  You know what you are capable of and if it makes for a better PT session, then you let them know.

They are there for your benefit- not the other way around- so they need to be accomodating to your specific needs as long as it's not something that is going to cause you further injury.  I'm proud of you for sticking up for yourself and you WILL show them!!

It is so good to hear that you were able to get to 100.  Even though there was major pain- you did it!  And to have found that quad as well, so yes- there was some good mixed in with the bad.

And please, don't feel like you are scaring me.  I'm already scared about the day my OS tells me I have to start.  I would much rather have a true picture of what to expect.  That way I can brace myself for the worst.  If it turns out not to be quite as bad as expected, it will be a good thing.  And if it turns out to be as bad as expected, I won't be in shock or suffer a major let-down.

So this new stimulator treatment- is it something that you will have to do every time, or was it a one time deal to try and find that quad?  Can they lessen the setting if it is too strong and causes too much discomfort?  I know that you have to feel it, but only to a certain extent.

Well, I'm saddened to hear that you had such a bad day, but am so very happy that you did have some good come out of it.  You really do inspire me because although you are having a rough go of it- you manage to take the punches and get back up again.  That alone is a major accomplishement in my game book.  I am very proud of you.  

Hoping today will be better than yesterday!  Let me know how your day was today.  I'm gonna designate myself as your very own personal cheering section- even if I am accross the globe!  I have strong lungs. 8)

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« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2003, 02:55:21 PM »
Well today started off not too welll.  I was so tired I felt sick.  I overdid it yesterday evening.  So I went back to bed adn slept till 11am.  Then I did lots of leg lifts (I'll show you who can do leg lifts, I did 15!)  Then I did some bending and stetching.  Then I got up.  I felt so much better after the extra sleep.  Depression and crying sure can tire you out.  I think the fact that I was walking around on one crutch..yes you heard me correctly, all night.  It was so weird because I didn't know what to do with the other arm..Hey did you know that you can carry things in one hand?   :o  Amazing.

Anyway I am feeling so much better today.  I have got my perspective readjusted.  I've decided to make a list of all the positives and negatives and pin it on the fridge so that when I'm starting to feel down I can remember all the good things.  I am also feeling much more positive about the whole thing.  I just hope it will last.  I think having a list will help keep things in perspective.  I think I should post it somewhere here too.  Where do you think it should go?

Even tonight I am feeling tired.  I even had a snooze for 1 1/2 hrs before.  You don't realise how things tire you out.  And it's not like I've been galavanting around the country side.

My mum is coming to visit for a couple of days tomorrow.  That'll be nice to have the company.  

We need to do some Chrissie shopping before she goes on her big trip.  I'll post that near your geography lesson.  :)

Well, here's to more good attitude days.  8)
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2003, 08:58:40 PM »
Maybe that list should be in the spiritual help & encouragement section, as I think it would tend to be an encouragement for you as well as others- Plus it would be a great idea to share.  You might even post it in the Know each other section as well.  A lot of people might joint in and add their lists as well.  Good therapy to talk about the good with the bad.  I think it shows that there is something possitive- we just have to remember to see and appreciate them

Good to hear that this is a better day.  It sounds like you needed that extra rest.  I'm glad you were able to accomodate your body with its request for sleep.  Frustrations and anger take so much energy.  Energy that needs to be applied more towards healing & recovery.

You seem to do a great job of keeping yourself in check.  A lot of people could take a lesson from that.

Now- you make sure you get lots of rest so that you can really enjoy your time with your mom.  Snd who doesn't enjoy Christmas shopping?  I can't even beleive it's already time for that.

Continue to have better, brighter days!

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2003, 12:45:43 PM »
Well as I said I went to pt and os today.  Very big day indeed.  I'm absolutely stuffed.  So if I seema little quiet it's just because I'm dead tired.

First the os appt.  I decided not to bring up the starting knee bending thing because why should I drag myself through that again.  I figure he must have had his reasons.
He askied me to show him how I could bend it while on the exam table.  this is where I took a deep breath because I get better bending wiht it hanging over the edge rather than sitting on something.  so I bent it and he got out his protractor.  Gues what!!!  I made 100!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Without really trying and with no warmup.  I couldn't believe it.  Finally I have got past that 90.  So happy with that.  He ahd a bit of a play with the nerve thng (see soft tissue healing post).  At least it is progressing.  He was generally quite happy with.  He did say that if I couldn't get it to bend he would have to put me under and make it bend.  No way is that going to happen. :P  but he said as long as it progresses he was happy.  I also walked into his office on one crutch.  I was really just showing off.  He wants to see me again in a month.

I should just mention that I had to wait an hour while he talked on the phone.  Apparently he was giving evidence via phone in court.  I could tell by the way he had to keep anwering the same question over andover.  An hour!!!!

We went back home for an hour or so and then I had pt.

As I walked in I said I made 100, with a big smile on my face.  I was in a good mood.  He said he had spoken with os yesterday and said I could do 100 but struggled with anything further.  Thankfully he didn't say 105 cos I would've been stuffed.  Anyway he was pleased.  
And first up I had those darn leg lifts.  I still had trouble because my leg was not fully relaxed.  So I don't know if he believes me.   Maybe as you said it just has stage fright.

He had this new gadget which measures how hard your muscle is actually working.  So he put it on my good leg and it measured 170 odd.  then he put it on my bad leg.  I managed to get around 60 odd.  Not bad for the third quad which I have only just found again.  So at least I'm on the right track.  then he helped me stretch my leg. Ow.  I've been getting cramps behind my knee where the hammies join on.  really painful depending on what I am doing.  And the top of the calf cramps too, where it joins on.  Very annoying. :P
Then he had a go at bending it.  Thankfully not on my stomach.  NO Tears   ;D  He was happy with the amount of pain I took.  
Then he put the measuring thing on again while I did some lunges.  Boy did I make it beep (it beeps when you pass a certain level).  I got to 262.  I wasn't able to compare it to the other leg but pt was very happy.

So on the whole I had a good day.  Now of course, I'm suffering.  Cramping and swelling etc.  But that's okay because I can deal.  No worries  ;D

Well How's the wet slobery kisses going?  Do I need to send some more your way?  I will anyway.

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2003, 05:01:02 AM »
 ;D ;D ;DI'm grinning ear to ear for you again!!  I am in the presence of the queen of PT patiens!!  I'm going to have to send you a crown, a septer & one of thos fuzzy spotted shoulder wraps!  Boy would that give your PT a good laugh!

I am so happy for you Sienna- no more than happy- I am giddy with excitement over these wonderful steps you're making in your recovery.  I know you are pleased.  Although I dread starting PT, seeing the progress you are making is kind of making me wish my OS would go ahead and put me in when he sees me next.  I'm going to write myself a reminder to ask him about it.  When I see him next I'll be 5 weeks post op, so maybe he will tell me to go for it.

You have really given that knee a go for the money, so get some rest this weekend.  Do something to pamper yourself.  You deserve it- you are really working hard and putting 100% plus!

If I were a teacher- I'd give you one of those little gold stars! ;)

I am going to take those slobber kisses from popper doggie.  I need them!

You be good, be safe and keep up those SBS's- they seem to be working!

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2003, 05:26:06 AM »
Are yoy still here?  Wow this would be a first.  What areyou doing up so late?
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2003, 06:09:41 AM »
Darn....Missed you here too....Hey, what am i doing up so late?  Oh yeah, Friday night.....just got paid.....parties hoppin.....feeling right../`./`./`./`(thos are music notes)
I'm seinging over here.

Really though- it's only 10 pm, so I'm good right now.

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2003, 11:04:30 AM »
Singing... I thought we'd already talked about this.  Oh well.  It's your own home you can do whatever you want and boohoo to anyone who doesn't like it.  You go girl!
So you must be about 13 hrs behind then.  One day we'll have to work out a time to talk directly (in a manner of speaking).
As for the 100%, I think I could put more effort in but why push it too hard?  Everytime that I do, I pay for it the next day.  Today my calf is really tight from yesterday's lunges at pt.  I was really pumped to show him who's boss.  and to make that little machine beep long and loud.  I think I accomplished that.  I also gave him a hint on how to motivate me.  He told me to do some lunges then I could go.  I said how many?  He said whatever.  I told him to give me a target towork for then I would do it.  So he said 10, so I did.  I put lots of effort in.  Amazing what you can do when you're motivated and not crying.  
I also noticed he was wearing the yellow socks again.  I ragged him about it because I had seen them earlier in the week.  either that or his wife has nothing better to do than washing.  Poor thing.  Now I will have to keep tabs on his lary socks.  
I think after yesterday we understand each other a little better.  He was really bending my knee and I  took it.  He knows how hard it is for me.  

It's hard to know how I'm going because I don't have a time line to compare it to.  I just plod along at my pace.  Which is good, don't get me wrong but sometimes you need somethng to compare it to.  I guess it's the competitivenes coming out in me.  I guess once you take out the 4 wks in a splint,  no bend to 100 degrees in two weeks is good.  My next goal is to get the next 10 degrees.  Oh boy.  I can do it.  Positive thoughts.  Can you hear me psyching myself up?  I've done it before, I can do it again.  
It's just that now the os has said that if it won't bend then he will make it bend.  The thought makes me shudder.  It's extra pressure now.  I just ignored the pt when he said it.

I am also now trying anti inflammatories - celebrex.  I took one last night and so far it hasn't made me sick.  So I guess I'll give it a go.  I've had 2 bad experiences with these things before so I am a bit reluctant.  If it helps with the swelling I'll try it.  The swelling is really bad.  I can only stand for 5-10 min before I get that pulsing feeling.  But I don't get it if I am sitting with it on the floor.  Must just be gravity.  ???

Well I think I have just typed a marathon.  Still having good knee days.  3 in a row.  Can I make it 4?  I think I will  pass on one of mine so you can have it.   you need a break.  Be on the lookout for it okay?!

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2003, 01:33:22 AM »
Wow- 3 good days in a row.  I truly appreciate you sharing one with me,  but if it means you having a bad day, please keep it!  I don't want one single set back for you.  I'm going to have good knee days very soon.

I'm also glad that things are going well with your PT.  I guess it makes it much easier/more bearable when you have a good relationship with the person that brings you pain and encouragement all at the same time.  From what I hear, the best PT here on the beach is a female, and I don't want to jinx anything, but in the past, many of the females in the medical profession here at the beach have had absolutley NO sympathy.  I guess I'll be finding out soon enough.

sienna- i think your Pt is starting to realize that you mean what you say and that you are going to do this thing- no matter what he throws your way.  You just make sure his socks coordinate with his outfit!  

I think I could learn a few things about making successful with the PT sessions from you.  I'll be coming to you for lots of advice when I get to that point.

You will continue to do well if you keep that "can do" attitude.  So, keep it going!!

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2003, 05:08:29 AM »
I'm running a bit low on the can do at the moment.  I didn't sleep very well again last night.  I was tossing and turning all over the place trying to get comfortable.  Today my knee is a bit out of sorts.  I haven't takien tramal at night for the last two nights and am wondering if it's just coincidence or not that those two nights I haven't slept very well.  My knee doesn't hurt but I just can't get comfortable.  Then I wake up feeling a little on the grumpy side.  It's not good to be there because you start thinking about negative things and I am trying very hard not to.  It doesn't help that I'm home alone again.  

I am going to ring my friend later,  I hope she can come and get me.

I was just thinkg about what my os asked me on Friday.  He asked me if I'd had any preop pain yet.  Of course not.  I won't know till I can bend it fully because that was when I got the pain.  So now I'm thinking, I won't know if it's been repaired for weeks yet.  What if it hasn't and I have to go through all this again.?!  :'(  I don't know if I could go through all this again.  I've already missed 7mths of my life.  There's no guarantee that it will have healed.  My os didn't even want to give my any odds.
I guess there's nothing I can do except wait and see and hope for the best.  :-/

Well I don't want to dwell on it for too much longer.  Takes up too much energy.  It doesn't help that I'm tired.

So
On the bright side I got to sleep on my stomach for a bit last night.  First time in 6 1/2 wks.  I had to be very careful not to hurt myself.  I think I may have done that just tossing around all night.  What can I do to get comfortable?  I haven't been so restless for ages.  I don't want to injure myself.

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2003, 10:50:51 PM »
Oh sweetie.  You and I are in the same boat with the "sadness/worrying" thing today.  I am so sorry.  Lack of sleep can reek havoc on you physically as well as mentally.

This may not be a very comforting idea for you, but if you put your imobilizer on, or maybe wrap your knee snuggly with an ace bandage before you go to bed, you might be able to sleep on your stomache.  I too am a stomache sleeper, and after the first surgery, I couldn't sleep well because I couldn't get on my stomache.

This go around, I decided to keep the imobilizer on and have been sleeping on my beely from the get-go.  I just have to use a somewhat flat pillow under my foot to help keep it comfortable.  Do you think you might be able to try it?  If you already aren't sleeping well, it probably won't hurt to at least try?

You are home alone?  Is your hubby away for business?  I know being alone while dealing with recovery can be very depressing.  There is noone there to help keep your mind busy.  Makes it very easy to let your mind wander towards the "dark-side".

As for not knowing whether the repair has taken and is healing properly, I would hope that if there were problems they would have manifest themselves by now.  When I fell at 2 weeks post-op, I began having problems immediately.  Until that time, I had been coming along nicely.  It sounds like you are doing good with the PT.  Have you had any locking or grinding in that knee?  If not, then I would enture to guess that all is well with the repair.  I will say a little prayer for you and your knee.

If you think for one second that there is a problem with your repair- do not hesitate to bring your concerns to your OS.  If for some reason there were problems the best course of action is immediate action.

Please let me know if you start having any problems as well.  I'm here for you.  I will celebrate the good with you, and I will wipe your tears if anything bad happens.  I'm hoping that there will be lots of celebrating!

Your Friend,
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2003, 05:02:12 AM »
I don't know if I want to go back to old red.  wouldn't it be like going backwards?  I should have asked pt about it but I forgot.  I was busy putting him on the spot and working my butt off.  He has cottoned on to what I said about having goals.  Very observant wouldn't you say?!
And I was making that machine gadget beep it's little [email protected]! off.  He used strapping tape to hold it in place.  I didn'trealise that it was sticky and let him put it on.  I am allergic to strapping tape and bandaids etc.  I come up with eczema.  He forgot and said that I had a mouth but I replied that I didn't realise that he was using sticky stuff.  Oh well let's hope it wasn't on long enough to cause a problem.  Otherwise look out.  I still have the scar and shadow of the last eczema and that was two wks ago.  I forget.  It all blends into one or another day.

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2003, 10:54:08 PM »
Ouchy- I hope that sticky stuff didn't cause any skin damage!  Keep an eye on it.  Do you use any sort of cortizone cream when that kind of thing happens?

As for using big red at night.  I wouldn't really call it a step backwards if you are only using it when sleeping.  I was just trying to think of a way to keep tha knee comfy if it is keeping you up nights.  I'm always full of ideas, but unfortunately sometimes they aren't really the best ones.  

Were you able to get better rest last night?  I certainly hope so.  Lack of sleep makes me grumpier than a wet hen.  Not to mention to toll it takes on your outlook regarding recovery.  Kind of zaps your drive and then you can't put 100% in to the excersises, and then you kick yourself because you feel like you could have and should have done better.

Deffinately ask your PT about it though.  He may have some good advice.  I'm sure he wants you good and rested and not grumpy when he sees you.  It's a well known fact that men are terrified of grumpy women. ;D  I find that it keeps them on their toes though.

Let me know what color socks he has on during the next session.  I'm gonna vote those yellow socks again.  Maybe you ought to find him a pair of rainbow socks when you hit your last PT session with him.  It'll give him something to remember you by!!

Keep doing your thing girlie- you got it goin on all over PT!! (snapping fingers and doing the neck roll thingy)

X's & O's & puppy dog toes!
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« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2003, 03:26:40 AM »
Yes I thought I'd get him a pair of socks.  I think I'll be with him for a while yet though.  I haven't even started balance and twisting, yoweeee for the twisting.  Not good.  Balancing, I can already stand on that leg and keep balance.  He was impressed.  I have to be careful not to run out of good tricks.   I can't fall behind.  those darn leg lifts.  You'd think I's be able to do those no worries but they are still the bain of my existance.  I'm over though, it's not like I have to do leg lifts as part of my job or anything.  I figure I'll focus on improving the other things I can do.  I won't forget the lifts, just won't get so upset if I can't do them.

My basin looks nice and sparkly.  So does the bath tub.
so glad I finally did them.  Nothing worse thatn looking a t bath scum.

How's your knee today?
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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2003, 09:24:56 PM »
Hi, I'm new to this board. You all sound like really lovely people!

I've just had MRI results that indicate  medial meniscus horizontal cleavage tear.  I've had the problem 6 weeks already and I would say there has been improvement with rest, ice, compression, and anti-inflammatories.  

I can walk very well right now with little to no pain. Swelling is minimal. Everything else is intact acording to the report.

I read on the web that some small varieties of this tear can heal on their own, given enough time. I would rather avoid surgery if at all possible. Anybody have any info on self-healing for this sort of thing? The stories of trying to recover from surgery are so discouraging!!1

Hope to hear from you.

Sincerely, Barbara

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2003, 02:10:40 AM »
Hi Barbara,
Welcome to the board.
I have to ask where your tear is on the medial meniscus?  As in anterior or posterior or somewhere in between?  
Healing does depend on where the tear is because different parts of the meniscus have different amounts of blood supply which affects healing.
All that said, my os told me that horizontal  tears in the posterior meniscus won't heal on their own and require surgery.  I had no choice.
Pre op I could walk normally, and was playing netball until other circumstances forced me to stop (not knee related).  The only time I had a problem was when I was bending or squatting.  so my tear didn't really impact too much on daily life and I put up with it for 6 mths before surgery.  However at the end of the day, despite it feeling okay, it was never going to heal on its own and I risked it getting worse.  Horizontal tears are very prone to worsen because of their nature.

So my advice would be to find out where the tear is, what category it falls into (red on red = good blood, white on red = chance of repair, white on white = removal, very poor blood flow) and then make your decision from there.  If you're not happy with your answers from your os, get another opinion.

anyway I know I haven't given any answers in regards to self healing but I think you should know the whole story.
Also check out step four on the kneeguru website page.  It is all aobut the meniscus.  Very informative.

I hope I have helped a little and feel free to ask any questions.  Take care and keep us posted.  :)
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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2003, 03:12:06 PM »
Well I gues it's time for an update.  I tried to go crutchless for the first time in public tonight. I would say it went okay.  I had a little bit of walking to do but seeing as the weather had cooled I didn't think it would be a problem.  I've been having all sorts of problems this week.  Firstly I over did on  Tues.  That took 3 days to get over.  
Secondly the temp.  We're coming into summer down here and it's starting to get hotter during the days.  Well with the nerve damage, my knee can't tolerate these temps.  It  wants to swell badly (thank goodness for AI) and then starts to hurt.  It gets really hot to touch and difficult to walk on.  The only relief is to get an ice pack.  So that's what I've had to do.  I've been walking around with an ice pack strapped to my leg.  It's a great fashion statement.  What else can I do?  :P
Thankfully with all this going on, I haven't lost any rom and can still do my exercises.  Then I have to sit down with it up but you get that.
Thirdly I had an incident at pt where I nearly fell over but at the last minute before a face plant I managed to catch myself in a crouched bending position with my arms against the wall.  Quite a save my pt said.  I just looked at him in horror.  I just saw my life flash before my eyes and all's that I could think was 'I'm falling and I can't put my leg down'.  and all's he could say was 'good save'?!  NOT HAPPY  :-X :-[ :'(  The last thing I need is to fall and break my knee into small twited pieces.  Maybe next time, (there won't be a next time, I assure you), he'll listen to me when I offer some info.  If he doesn't then he'll hear the word NO a bit more often.

So I guess I've had an action packed week.  Some of the action I could do without.  

Well I'm getting tired.
I hope everyone is having some good knee days.
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« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2003, 04:07:19 PM »
Here's another update.
I'm officially off crutches all the time and it's been a week.
I still have a bad limp which depends on weather, how tired I am, how long I've been walking and which tile I have managed to trip on.
I hate walking down hills and downstairs -  I find it quite painful.  Upstairs and up hills is okay.
I've been cut down to one pt a week which I'm not happy about considering I'm still 40 odd degrees of a full bend and then there's the scar tissue which has attached to the joint.  I'm apparently to start hydrotherapy next week which I have mixed feelings about but I don't have much say in it.  
I start work on a reduced hours program next Monday and after a little argument with the OT we have agreed on the number of hours I'm to do.
I'm at the bottom of the unhappy cycle where I am totally over this knee and I jsut want my life back.

ON the bright side of things I can DRIVE!!!!  Finally after 8 1/2 wks I have been cleared to drive short distances.  No more taxis and calling people to come and get me.  Now all's I need is the stamina to go shopping, real shopping not just in and out shopping, without the possibility of suffering from overdoing it.  Oh well, that day is coming.

I also thank the little white with yellow pills I take each day (AI) which enable me to keep my knee swelling under control.

So here's to some good knee days ..... for all of us.
rk posterior meniscus tear. Successfully repaired 10 Sep,03. Now have nerve damage and cps which goes with it.  I want to slap the person who said 'It just takes time....'

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Re: horizontal medial meniscus tear..post op
« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2003, 09:41:31 AM »
Time again for another update.
I've come to the conclusion that my knee sucks.
I'm back at work on reduced hours.  I am so tired.  I am trying to not overdo it but it seems that no matter how hard I try, I still am.  My knee has been sh*t the last few days.
It gets all hot and swollen and starts to ache.  Every evening for the last 5 days I've had these problems and have spent the evening icing it and trying to stay off it.  I've managed to figure out why I'm having so many problems - over doing it.  I Overdid it at pt and have had muscle pains reducing to soreness since last Thursday.  I have joint pain from standing and walking too much.  And I'm so tired at night that some afternoons I can't help but to have a nap.

My ot doesn't seem to understand, though the tears helped.  She just wanted to know why I wasn't in hydro yet.  Does she realise what a major effort that would be?  And how long that would make my day?  Uurrgh!  I don't have the energy to do it and if I'm tired I'm likely to hurt myself.  Man....  If only some of these treating professionals had actually been there dont that, then they would have a different view.  

My rom hasn't improved in 2 wks but at least my fluidity has improved.  

So I just needed to vent.  And now I have.  Thanks for listening.
Let's hope there are some better knee days for us all soon.
rk posterior meniscus tear. Successfully repaired 10 Sep,03. Now have nerve damage and cps which goes with it.  I want to slap the person who said 'It just takes time....'