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Offline kscope09

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Prolotherapy for acl
« on: March 30, 2010, 12:18:34 PM »
I have a small tear in my acl and while I have regained my stability and rotation I still have a little hypermobility.  I'm not expecting some kind of miracle cure but could prolotherapy help strengthen the acl andreduce hypermobility?  Also, I doubt very much that it would be availabel on the nhs but is it available privatly in the UK?
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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 12:57:03 PM »
Check out Ralph Rogers in London (google him). He offers prolotherapy and PRP for ligaments and tendons, some interesting stuff on his website. Certainly there seems to be evidence that it can help with general strengthening in terms of ligaments and tendons. I think there are some posts on here from people that have had treatment from him in the Injections forum.

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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 01:52:48 PM »
The website looks good but if it is such a wonder cure why didn't my OS recommend it, he's one of the best for acl's, maybe he's not convinced about it.  I wonder if I could drop the secretary an email to find out if my problem is treated and what it could do for me.  Maybe most of the Os's and pts are sceptical of it, but surely if it is allowed to be practiced in the UK it must be tried and tested.

Is there anyone here with a success story or pros and cons?
Feb 08 Inurred right knee
18 months of physio, knee tracking but knee still painful
Aug 09 Scope - Small tear in acl, fragment found in postereo-lateral compartment, suprapatella and lateral plica and small defect in mfc.
May 10 Right knee feeling better but left knee causing trouble as a result o

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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 02:32:30 PM »
A surgeon is a surgeon - 9 times out of 10 they'll offer a surgical solution. Many are probably not even aware of what could be called "alternative" therapies because realistically they don't need to know about them in depth.  You could always ask your OS direct if he belives it might help in your case. There are some stories of progress on here in the Injections forum with PRP and prolo.


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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 03:52:54 PM »
kscope, try googling "Healing Response" and ACL. This sounds a wee bit similar.

Bode Miller had his partially torn ACL treated this way at the Steadman-Hawkins clinic in Vail

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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 04:28:18 PM »
I've never heard of him, but what was his sport, did he get back into it?
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Aug 09 Scope - Small tear in acl, fragment found in postereo-lateral compartment, suprapatella and lateral plica and small defect in mfc.
May 10 Right knee feeling better but left knee causing trouble as a result o

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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 04:59:30 PM »
He's the top US male skier for Alpine events. If you google his name you'll see something on his Healing Response treatment.

I do not particularly like him but he made a fantastic recovery and returned to competitive skiing incredibly fast.

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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 06:07:29 PM »
i found some information here: http://www.prolonews.com/acl_tears_prolotherapy.htm
It looks encouraging, so maybe I will contactRalphe roger's clinic to see what he can do for me.
Feb 08 Inurred right knee
18 months of physio, knee tracking but knee still painful
Aug 09 Scope - Small tear in acl, fragment found in postereo-lateral compartment, suprapatella and lateral plica and small defect in mfc.
May 10 Right knee feeling better but left knee causing trouble as a result o

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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2010, 05:03:37 PM »
http://www.bimm.org.uk/Prolotherapy-Practitioners.shtml  There's a list of prolotherapy practitioners in the UK here if anyone's interested.

Good news Lottie, i've found somewhere a bit closer to home and their gunna send me some info.  Consultation is 103 and if you are a candidate for the treatment you can have it right away on the day.  So i'd be looking at a couple more hundrd on top.  You can have prolo on the NHS but you have to live in the Birmingham area to be eligeable.
Feb 08 Inurred right knee
18 months of physio, knee tracking but knee still painful
Aug 09 Scope - Small tear in acl, fragment found in postereo-lateral compartment, suprapatella and lateral plica and small defect in mfc.
May 10 Right knee feeling better but left knee causing trouble as a result o

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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 07:40:34 PM »
Turns out I was a bit hasty, the practice I contacted rang me back and said they don't do prolotherapy on knees.  So now I'm going through the list.
Feb 08 Inurred right knee
18 months of physio, knee tracking but knee still painful
Aug 09 Scope - Small tear in acl, fragment found in postereo-lateral compartment, suprapatella and lateral plica and small defect in mfc.
May 10 Right knee feeling better but left knee causing trouble as a result o

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Re: Prolotherapy for acl
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2010, 07:22:43 AM »
The reason your surgeon didn't probably mention it is because there is not enough evidence out there to suggest it works. The jury is still out on it.

I would suggest seeing a sports physician/doctor to see what other conservative options you may have.
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