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Offline kaylajane

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Mystery Knee Problems
« on: December 19, 2009, 08:10:45 AM »
Alright, I've got quite a conundrum for any sleuth ready and able to help a damsel in distress:

-I began a Russian volume training regimen in September. My workout consisted of deadlifts 2-3 times a week, heavy sets of lunges (45 on either side of the barbell), and really heavy squats.
-My knee pain EMERGED in both knees, more so in the left, approximately during lunge workouts--in which I became tired, my form suffered, and I def had some 'knee-twisting' action in there. Nothing acute, no real "OMFG THIS HURTS" point.

**--**It became progressively worse over a few workouts, until I cut out squats and lunges from the unbearable pain. I continued with deadlifts for about a month.

**I was obese ~230; mostly muscle.
**I am currently verging on ~180, aiming for ~150.

I nixed all lower body, weight-bearing exercises in early October. At this point the damage stood as follows:
-Pain in both knees. Particularly stinging in the inner, left knee--near the 'teardrop of the quad.' Slight pain on the outside of the knee.
-Both knees pop when extended. No pain accompanying. Full range of motion, with MINIMAL stiffness.
-At rest, no pain at all. When walking around my apt, slight pain in the left, inner teardrop. Knees sometimes snap/pop while in motion, especially while turning corners.
-Pain increases while walking, sometimes. Especially in "teardrop" area.
-No pain while going up/down stairs.
-Full stability in both knees.
-The incompetent nurse at my cow college health center told me I might have a collapsed arch in my left foot.--I don't see how this would affect anything, as I walk maybe 15:min's a day.
-No history of breaks, arthritis, etc. I'm 21yo.

-Seems to be temporary relief after stretching, and some NSAIDs (i.e. ibuprofen). All the PFPS and ITB stretches--done them all, for weeks.

Note: I listed this in the 'emergency' section because I *need* to run for my post-college career--I graduate this Spring. I am seeing an orthopedist this Tuesday.

I will be very grateful for any any all advice, you are able to lend. I am desperate, and feel really down about this.

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Re: Mystery Knee Problems
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 08:18:03 AM »
I should also probably add that I've had a nurse and a resident doctor, at my campus clinic, do all of these "does this hurt?; does this hurt?; does this hurt?"-sort of tests, checking which leg extensions might promote (meniscal???) pain--detected nothing.

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Re: Mystery Knee Problems
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 11:07:31 AM »
Lunges and squats place big stress on the knee joint, especially if you are overweight and then add in heavy weights as well. Did you go from doing no weights to this strict regime? If so you might have simply done too much too soon and your knees are protesting. With any weight training regime you should build gradually and monitor pain - pain on things like lunges and squats shouldn't be ignored and just worked through though, I've seen knees just go pop under heavy load and thats not pretty!!! Go steady until you know whats causing the pain.

My knee pain started in lunges and it turns out I have significant wear under the patella and a lesion on the medial femoral condyle. I'm older than you though! The comment about your feet isn't as mad as it sounds. If your feet roll inwards or your arches have collapsed then it will in turn affect the shearing force on your knee joint and kneecap. A decent podiatrist would look at your gait and feet and it may be that your footwear needs looking at so you have a better weight distribution through your lower body.

Keep up with the stretches and stuff, they don't fix things overnight but are essential for good knee health.

In reality though, only a specialist can tell you what is going on and you might need scans to investigate further. Good luck.  ;)

And if it is a case of too much too fast, proper rest takes ages, with a proper regime of rehab and strengthening exercises along the way  - I hoped my problems might go away with a week off training - no such luck!!!  ::)
Bilateral patella OA since 2009, no surgeries.
Euflexxa working well x3 to current
Right forefoot CRPS post fusion surgery 2011
Refusing to let the ailing parts stop me....