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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #120 on: January 28, 2010, 11:24:48 AM »
Hi Milly,

Now moved most of the stuff out of my old place, which is great.

The meeting was pretty tough today. The return to work coordinator was very rude and insensitive. Couldn't believe some of the things coming out of her mouth. Couldn't believe that she questioned the medical certificate I was written by my physio. My physio had talked to her earlier and said he told her something different. I explained to her that rehab is not an exact science and things can change. Also explained that I am a slower healer. Kept referring back to my doctor's letter that was 2 weeks old. I just said to her that my doctor hasn't seen me for a few weeks and that I have not progressed as much as he was probably hoping. They also complained about me declining to do something that was against my doctor's restrictions. I now have to decide whether I want to stay there or resign.

Seeing my psychologist tomorrow, which is good. Then, my doctor on Monday. Glad he will be back.
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12/2005 - RK LR Repair
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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #121 on: January 28, 2010, 02:29:35 PM »
Glad most of the stuff is moved.  That's always a pain.

Too bad the meeting did not go better.  It seems like you should not be required to do anything against your doctors orders.  I know that my employeer would never ask me to and if I did anyway, I could be sent home.  Talk it over with the psycholigist and see what she/her (can't recall which you have) has to say.  Your doc should be able to get you an updated return to work or restriction letter on Monday.  After talking to both of them you may have a better idea if you want to stay or look for something else.

Milly
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'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #122 on: January 29, 2010, 09:38:17 AM »
Hi Milly,

I saw my psychologist today and found her very helpful. She can not believe some of the things said by my return to work coordinator. I told her that I was strongly thinking about resigning. She thinks it is in the best interests of my health to resign. My work is having a big tole on my health and just isn't worth it.

Am seeing my doctor on Monday. May look at taking some of my annual leave if I can as I have not got much sick leave left. Will discuss it with him on Monday. I will check on Monday how much sick leave and holidays I have built up.

I am so glad that the weekend is here now.
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12/2005 - RK LR Repair
07/2006 - LK MPFL Repair
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22/05/08 - LK Trochleoplasty
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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #123 on: January 29, 2010, 04:38:36 PM »
I would agree that removing yourself from the stress is a good idea. It will help if you can relax a bit before surgery and I would not be suprzed if the pain lessened a bit too.  I know my pain levels go way up when I am stressed.  Enjoy your weekend.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #124 on: January 31, 2010, 11:37:05 AM »
Hey Milly,

Hope you've had a good weekend. I caught up with a friend for brunch yesterday and then went to a friend's place for lunch, which was nice.

When I got home I had a rest and then finished typing up some notes about the discussions I have had with manager, supervisor and return to work coordinator. I then sent it to my psychologist, sports physician and physiotherapist.

Just been watching the Men's Final of the Australian Open. It was a pretty good match. Heading off to bed soon. I hope I can sleep better tonight. Last night I hardly slept at all due to the pain I have been in, which has been really bad in the last week. I reckon it is because of the stress I have been under.

Tomorrow I will find out about whether I can have the surgery, I just hope so. Waited so long for it and is impacting on my body so much, particularly my back.

I am doing a refresher course tomorrow night for my sports trainer work, which will be good. Then, it is one more thing out of the way before my knee surgery.

Been having a look in to some further study once I finish my current Allied Health Assistance course. I plan to do a biomedical degree specialising in sports and exercise science which would build up on my current knowledge. Then, I plan to apply for a Masters in Physiotherapy, which is 2 years or Medicine, which is four years.

I have been looking in to other work I can do too. Looks like I will be offered some extra sports trainer work too. So there are some good things to look forward to, which is great and helps me get through this difficult time.
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12/2005 - RK LR Repair
07/2006 - LK MPFL Repair
11/2006 - LK LR Repair
22/05/08 - LK Trochleoplasty
11/02/10 - RK Trochleoplasty
07/03/11 - RK Chrondroplasty

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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #125 on: February 01, 2010, 03:23:11 PM »
The educational stuff sounds very exciting.  You would have empathy for your patients I think, having been one for so long.  Puts a different perspective on things. Glad the weekend was less stress ful.  I have found that stress sure does make things hurt worse.  Well got to keep this short got a printer on the fritz here at work and want to chuck out the window.  Costs too much though LOL.  Anyway, hope the stress level stays down for you.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #126 on: February 07, 2010, 02:08:45 AM »
Hi Milly,

Sorry I have been a bit MIA. Things have been extremely hectic and was a pretty stressful week.

I saw my doctor on Monday and agreed it was the right thing to resign. My psychologist had phoned him and told him that she supposed my decision as she felt I was doing very well up until I had my accident at work.

We talked about my surgery and said I was strong enough to go ahead with it, which is a relief. He is concerned the stress I have been under and we talked about whether it was really the right time. In the end he suggested going ahead with it as my other health issues are not going to go away such as my back, anxiety etc. So, I called my OS's rooms on Tuesday morning to let them know. His personal assistant was pleased as she had been doing the list the day before and came across my name.

I resigned on Wednesday. It is the best thing I have done. On Tuesday night I hardly slept at all cause of my pain and worrying about what their reaction would be. It was ok. I explained to them that I had been offered some more sports trainer work and want to go back to further study. My supervisor and manager were actually quite supportive as they feel I have a lot more to offer than just being an Allied Health Assistant, which I totally agree with. One of the things I am not going to miss is the travelling. I think my body will thank me for it too.

Been dealing with a really difficult patient at work. It has been hard as I've not been given very good background on her. One of the psychologists working on the case gave me some helpful information on Thursday. Makes hard when you are already under stress yourself.

Last night I had some friends around for drinks, which was nice. Some of them I hadn't caught up with in a while. Quite a few couldn't come, but that was ok.

Just got 3 days of work to go. Can't wait to finish. I still have to put in the form for conciliation as they rejected my work injury claim. My supervisor lied what actually happened and the independent doctor wrongly diagnosed the problem as I had no swelling or bruising when I saw him. My doctor couldn't believe it when I showed him the letter from the insurer.

Off to have a rest as I am in a fair bit of pain with my back and really tired as I didn't sleep well last night thanks to a migraine.

Hope you are doing ok and are having a good weekend.
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11/1998 - LK MPFL Reco
12/2005 - RK LR Repair
07/2006 - LK MPFL Repair
11/2006 - LK LR Repair
22/05/08 - LK Trochleoplasty
11/02/10 - RK Trochleoplasty
07/03/11 - RK Chrondroplasty

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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #127 on: February 07, 2010, 03:13:58 AM »
It is probably a good thing to look for something else.  Stress is not good for you.  Glad the doc and the OS think you should go back for the next surgery.  Can't believe the way the accident was treated.  Keep trying to get what is your due.  I hope once you are not longer worried about your job, you can maybe get some better sleep. 

Having friends over sounds like a good thing for you.  So far the weeked is going ok. Ordered some yarn to finish a scarf I am making.  No one in town has it, but a local craft store can order for me.  My daughter got some material to make a skirt and a new dress.  She will be busy.  I've got to get the sewing machine fixed.  It works so long then the tension goes weird and it has to sit a day or two.   

Hope your migraine gets better soon.  Take care.
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #128 on: February 10, 2010, 09:38:33 AM »
Hi Milly,

Can't believe that my surgery is tomorrow. Will be glad to have it behind me.

Was getting really stressed out yesterday about everything I had to get done before my op. I saw my psychologist last night and was really helpful. Just confirmed I was on the right track and to focus on what is important for the next few days.

Yeah, I can't believe the way the accident was treated either. I have been treated worse than a dog !!! Will send in the paper work for conciliation after my surgery. They didn't even say thank you for the work I've done when I left today. No good luck card or anything. So glad I have left. Don't want to work for an organisation like that.

Tonight I feel really relaxed after finishing my job, going to the hydro pool and spending some time in the spa.

This afternoon I had an interview, which I think went well. I was upfront with them about having surgery tomorrow and they were fine with it. Should know early next week. I have another interview in the morning. So, will be interesting to see how it goes.

Tomorrow I have to be at the hospital at 4:30pm. Glad I have the day to do things. I must be one of the last on the list. At least I don't have to wait around all afternoon.

Will update soon once I have had my surgery. May be a couple of days as I will probably be in hospital until the weekend.
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11/1998 - LK MPFL Reco
12/2005 - RK LR Repair
07/2006 - LK MPFL Repair
11/2006 - LK LR Repair
22/05/08 - LK Trochleoplasty
11/02/10 - RK Trochleoplasty
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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #129 on: February 10, 2010, 03:40:23 PM »
Wow tomorrow already?!  Thatís good though.  Now you can start healing and hopefully things will get much less painful over time.

Great that you have had an interview already.  Good luck with it and hope you get something.  At least they know you wonít be ready for a bit. 

Good luck with the surgery and will be looking for a post some time next week. 

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #130 on: February 13, 2010, 09:01:09 AM »
Hey Milly,

Well I am over the other side of surgery now, which I am pleased about. I find having the surgery the worst part. The rehab can be trying but I know I will eventually get there with a lot of hard work.

I was in hospital for a total of 2 nights. Glad to be home again.

My OS visited me yesterday morning as well as this morning. He said it went well and that I had some cartilage damage under my knee cap. Although it was not planned he did a chrondroplasty to smoothen the cartilage out. Maybe that is why I was experiencing so much pain. My right knee is a lot more painful than the left one was. He said it is not surprising.

The first night I hardly slept at all. I had a good view from the city, which was nice. The night lights were beautiful.

I had a really good set of staff looking after me. They were really helpful and would go out of their way to help you, which was really nice. It is the way it should be. Just helped me realise there are some nice hospitals to work at and that I was really bullied in my last job I just resigned from. My Mum agrees with me. Will be reporting my supervisor when I get another job as well as the return to work coordinator. My psychologist, doctor and physiotherapist were horrified how I was treated.

Will be starting a post-op diary soon.

Hope you are having a good weekend.
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07/1997 - LK LR
11/1998 - LK MPFL Reco
12/2005 - RK LR Repair
07/2006 - LK MPFL Repair
11/2006 - LK LR Repair
22/05/08 - LK Trochleoplasty
11/02/10 - RK Trochleoplasty
07/03/11 - RK Chrondroplasty

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Re: Difference between patella arthritis and chrondral damage under knee cap
« Reply #131 on: February 15, 2010, 05:52:07 PM »
Glad you are home.  Always feels better at home no matter how nice the staff are.  I will be looking for your post op diary.  I can tell you from experience that damage behind the kneecap can be terribly painful.
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.