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THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« on: November 02, 2008, 06:10:35 PM »
I noticed this problem came up on one ot the threads and I would like to take this opportunity to comment on it.
I see a serious problem when a thread is allowed to get carried away that has been going on for a couple years. When a person has nothing new to add or nothing to contribue, then what is wrong with them starting a new topic and putting a new spin on things.
I see two particular threads here for instance where one person is in the hospital fighting for their life and needs our support and another who has had the same topic for a couple years and didn't post for a long time, and goes back many, many pages to dig up the old thread and continues on with it. The problem here is that they have made this thread a contest between the lady fighting for her life and the one with no new problem who is just still complaining about the same old things
I think the problem is serious also and KG loses it's purpose when more support is given to the person just complaining then the one who actually is seriously ill and fighting for their life, who has been so compasionate of others and puts everyone else first. I've read the two threads in question thoughly and you certainly can tell who the compationate one is compared to the one just fighting for attention.
And then what happens when everyone else complains of their problems on the same thread. Shouldn't they be starting their own thread instead of using someone elses. If you wonder why a person may use another name instead of the one they are registered with, it is becasue you can't speak the truth that way as you would get blasted. Isn't the moderator interested if their is a problem where they could do something to improve the site for everyone. Many of the new threads get burried and never get seen because of one person trying to hog the attention. Many people don't look past the first page. These people know that when there is a response to their thread that it goes to the top, and I've seen them answer themselves just to keep their posting on top. It's like they are running some kind of contest for the attention. Anyone contributing to this is just as bad.
There are many people here who would agree with me but don't dare express their opinion and that is sad.  So for those of you who need so much attention that you need to post daily when you have no news to tell or your status has been the same for two years, I feel sorry for you, but if you need this kind of attention by all means, keep it up unti those suppporting the thread get bored.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2008, 06:21:35 PM »
amen.....enough said ;)

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2008, 06:37:10 PM »
Why would someone who is not a regular KG user (Tommy24) have so much to say about some of the threads on this board?  Tommy24 makes this comment and then deletes their account on the site....SEEMS ODD TO ME.

 A new user "Jimmy367” made this same comment in another thread recently.   Maybe the same person? 

A majority of the threads on the site are short…If you don’t like the long ones DON'T READ THEM….By the way…The long ones may be POST OP DIARY’S and they contain great info. 

I know the 2 threads Tommy24 is speaking about…I see no competition between the two. 
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2008, 08:50:08 PM »
There ARE many boards that split threads as soon as they reach a certain length. I took the decision years ago not to do this as some threads are very popular.

How about this solution? That I create a board just for the VERY long threads, and mark it clearly as such. Then they will not block the top positions on the threads that tend to be used by new users.

Please give me your opinion on this. I would particularly like to hear on this open forum the opinion of long-standing members on this issue.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2008, 09:01:48 PM »
Sheila...
I am a KneeGeek of a little over a year, however I am on regularly and contribute fairly regularly to a number of threads.

I think your solution is a very good one and would reduce the obvious rancour that is being produced as a result of some of the long threads. Some of the post op diaries are very lengthy and as a result do tend to float to the top of the board...
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2008, 09:20:18 PM »
I agree with what SUBAIL has said totally..........i think that would be very useful.
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2008, 09:23:23 PM »
Sheila, This is a good idea. I for one have been a member of Kneeguru for a long time and when I am in a hurry I am guilty of not looking past the first page, and there are probably many new people who are pushed onto the second and third page by old threads that just keep surfacing. I myself have noticed that if I have posted a new thread and it isn't answered right away it ends up on the next page very quickly and so I surface it again and eventually get a response.
I also find that if I see a thread is too long I avoid it as I don't have time to read it. I tend more to answer the threads that have few pages so I can catch up and give a fair response.
What dfference does it make who tommy24 is if he makes valid points that could improve KG. That is the problem, some people are not responding to the thread but more to the person who wrote it.
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2008, 10:14:57 PM »
Just out of curiosity I fished through page after page on this board and got up to the 10th page and stopped totally ashamed of myself. I didn't even realize the number of posting by new people that did not have one response to them. There are not enough new people being helped because some other threads are taking over the board and getting all the attention. I for one am going to take more time to go beyond the first page and try to help some of these people. If we all did that maybe we could help more people. Many people just keep responding to the same thread instead of spreading themselves out and helping more then just one or two people.
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2008, 06:47:03 AM »
Hi Sheila

I too feel that some of the longer threads, particularly in the Post-Op section have moved beyond the function of that Board. I fail to see the significance, within the purpose of a specific Board, of threads that have gone on for sometimes more than a year and yet are still updated many times per day. This, as someone has said, pushes them to the top of a Board. For Newbies, searching for relevant information this is difficult, they are no longer sure if it is an important thread. I must also comment here that I find the concept of Pre-Op Diaries somewhat superfluous!

There is a section of the Board available for long threads, it is in the  Games Room and is called "Know Each Other? Just Want to Chat?" This is where I personally feel these threads belong, as they have little or no relevance any  more to the Post-Op information. The same goes for threads that started over 2 years ago which after a period of zero activity suddenly burst back on the scene. OK a new user may want to contact the original thread owner or a person who had something then to say, but the thread itself should be restarted under a new title. I can think of one thread where at the start there was no relevant Board for it, so it appears in the General section, in the interim a topic specific Board has been opened where this thread would be appropriate.

I feel it is perhaps a task that the owner of a resurrected thread should take on board, to say to a Newbie OK I have noted your interest, lets start a new thread where we can discuss your questions/problems. I know that there are individual moderators for each Board, but when I look to see when some of them were last active I see that they are often not that regular in their visits to their "children"! In reality practically ALL the moderation work appears to fall upon your shoulders. This is not really practical nor fair. It also means that the routine overseeing of the activity is preventing you from offering the invaluable help you have be able to give in the past. I mean here the posting of links to new articles and updating us on changes in accepted practice. Most of your activity these days seems to consist of acting as a referee where things get too hot or shuffling posts around to the relevant sections. What a waste of your valuable time!

I agree with LuckyGrandma6 here, it is a pity that Tommy24 is probably a pseudonym for a frustrated User, hence the rapid deletion of their ID. BUT they do raise a fairly important point. My question is why did they feel threatened enough to create a new Persona just to make a valid and constructive criticism? It says something about maybe the atmosphere vis à vis open and adult discussion.

It would be interesting to hear from some Newbies as to the problems they are having finding information from the Boards.

Sue  ;)
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2008, 01:50:37 PM »
Along these same lines, is there anyone else interested in seeing a split of "The Games Room" threads from the more serious knee discussions?  It would make it easier to sift through the new threads as far as relevance and urgency goes.  Suzanne
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2008, 06:30:07 PM »
Hi
I have read the responses, and also the responses that have come to me via PM. The main issue is that the busy threads keep coming up to the top of the pile and the new questions are thereby pushed down the list where they may not receive the attention they merit.

However, some longer threads maintain their clinical focus and it would be a shame to move them.

I don't want this to develop into a major issue, and it has the potential to do so, and therefore what I will do is to create a new section (or even two) to accommodate such threads and then assess each one on an individual basis, with discussion with the thread owner, and move them over time.

Let me have your comments. I would like to do this diplomatically and not heavy-handedly.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2008, 06:51:24 PM »
Shelia,

That sounds like a great compromise.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2008, 07:00:00 PM »
OK. I have made a few changes. I have moved the Games area down to the bottom of the list of boards. I have made a Post op diary for long threads. I have made a board for Popular discussions.

I have not put anything in them yet.

Please all click the HOME button at the top left of the menus and take a look. Let me have feedback.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2008, 07:04:37 PM »
Sheila,

I think the changes will work perfectly, and will solve the issue. That is a good idea to have a popular discussion page.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2008, 08:53:19 PM »
Thank you Shiela for your work so far!

I also see no problems with the changes. As a frequent user of the Games Room it does not really bother me where it is. I use the links at the top of the page in my profile box anyway to link to my posts (Show new replies to your posts) and then click on "Show unread posts since last visit" to read the new stuff. I then read thread titles as well as the board they are on to decide whether to look at them or not. I then make sure to mark all the new posts as read which means I do not have to wade through pages and pages of posts. Consequently I rarely have to look at more than two or three pages of new topics.

I think a lot of people have unreal expectations from their posts sometimes. A vague posting about a "sort of pain" somewhere is less likely to receive many constructive replies than something that actually explains in the title what the topic is about or posting in one of the specialist boards instead of the General thread. Lack of repsonses can also mean that no-one feels that they can constructively reply. Other times I have seen people getting annoyed at the lack of response for example at certain times of the year or within a couple of hours of posting. This is a global board which means a new post can be posted in the early morning in one time zone while it is in the middle of the night elsewhere - same goes for public holiday times when the boards go quiet in some parts of the world.

I do have one question though: what will be the criteria for posting in the "Popular Discussion" section? I am taking part in a couple of really interesting discussions, but they are adequately covered in their particular specialist sections. So are we talking politics, current affairs, religion or other such themes or do you mean actually discussions about knee related topics? The former could prove to be explosive, whilst the latter, in my opinion, are already more than adequately covered in the current boards.

Just my tuppence worth  ;)

Thanks for all your efforts and long may the boards continue to be a shining example of how such BBs should work.

Sue  ;)
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2008, 12:21:18 AM »
Hi Sheila

I generally shy away from Internet bulletin boards as I have always wondered about their efficacy. I have no such reservations about KneeGeeks. It has been one of the best opportunities for me to find information, connect with like-minded people and in general have a bit of fun in the Games section. Thank you for creating the best knee site around. It is not an easy thing to try to keep everyone happy. I think that the way in which you have approached this dilemma says a great deal about you and the site. Thank you again for your efforts.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2008, 02:29:51 PM »
Like many others I have gotten tired of always having to go through the game threads when I look at
"show unread post since last visit".
Also the postop threads keep going way too long and in end the only are a social conversation taking up space.
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2008, 03:26:44 PM »
When you click on the Unread posts short-cut it will always return all of the posts made since your last visit in the time order that they were posted, so the physical position of a particular Board is irrelevant really. The filter used is based on the time of your last registered log-in and the time you request the information.

Every time I carry out this action I look first at the title of any new thread, then the board it is from, if neither interest me or I feel that I am not able to offer any constructive comment, I do not look at it. After reading all the posts that interest me I go back and mark all the others as read. Using the multiple tabbing that is available in most Browsers these days, this is not really a problem.

Unless a complicated filter system using unbelievably complex and personally chosen parameters is introduced this is the simplest and easiest of methods of checking new posts. If you want this kind of functionality, then I would advise using the search parameters. Me, I like to keep life simple at all times.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2008, 04:28:06 PM »
I agree with Kaputt Knee in that the titles of threads can be an eye catcher. I'm more apt to respond to a thread if the title gives an idea of the problem then just saying "I'm in pain, so much pain or Knee problems" We all have pain and knee problems so this doesn't help us to know if their knee problem is something we can give them advice on as everyone is different. There are so many people posting that I know myself that I'm more apt to answer a post with a catchy title. Would you read a book where you didn't like the title. Maybe there should be a Newbie section that would give them ideas on how to post to be more assured of getting their posts answered.
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2008, 04:33:58 PM »
crikey this thread is getting long !

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2008, 04:44:04 PM »
Good one!
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2008, 05:25:52 PM »
I pretty much do the same thing as Kaputt Knee when it comes to reading posts, but in addition, I look to see how many responses the person posting has gotten. I tend to go for the ones that have a low number, and will respond to those first, but only if it's an area in which I have experience. I'm a 'frequent flyer' here, so I don't usually have more than 2 or 3 pages of unread posts to catch up on, but I do try to check all the pages, not just the first. If I've been away for a while, though, I usually stop when I get to posts that are more than a few days old.

I do think it would be good to separate out the games room posts. Do any of us really need to know who posted something new to a game we're not involved in?  
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2008, 05:28:05 PM »
Maybe I'm wrong...But i took it as a Joke?
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2008, 06:16:42 PM »
Me, too. I thought it was meant to be funny.

Hey gang, know what? This thread could get moved and be the first one in the new 'Popular Discussions' board. What do you think, Sheila?

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2008, 06:21:02 PM »
Terre - I think thats a great idea!
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2008, 08:43:46 PM »
It was a joke !!!! 
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2008, 08:47:00 PM »

Me thinks a sense of humour transplant may be in order!!..... nurse! nurse!! I need my medication! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2008, 10:07:04 PM »
aw come on it was funny ! lifes too short unlike some threads !

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2008, 10:09:59 PM »
C'mon! lifes too short to be so petty about trivial things! Thats on of the reasons i come on here..... its good to laugh ;D

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2008, 10:35:17 PM »
Luckygrandma,

It was just one little joke. The more fuss that is made over it, the bigger issue it becomes. Let's just be mature about this and move on. I'm sure no one here meant to trivialize the issues that are being discussed.
My suggestion of moving the thread to the new board was made in all seriousness. This is becoming a popular thread. Lots of people have weighed in and there have been some very good suggestions. I think it would be an excellent start to the popular discussions board.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2008, 10:39:37 PM »
   I have to agree. I've had over a year with tears everyday, and I'll be having tears for years to come. It's good to laugh, that's what is so great about this site. Longer threads are ok, they don't bother me, I answer those that I find I have something in common with but then I do a lot of lurking. Some people go on after they heal to get on with life, some stay and find comfort with old friends. It's a two way street.


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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2008, 10:44:18 PM »
Angel, you are spot on there. Its somewhere to go when you are feeling down and need a laugh, for all the help you need etc. I, like you dont mind the length of a thread.... just look at mine ;D ;D ;D

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2008, 11:09:26 PM »
Some of us come on this site for information AND for the companionship which this site provides from like-minded people who have undergone similar experiences. It's fun and informative. We all need to be able to laugh at ourselves and chuckle.
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2008, 11:15:55 PM »
I agree. .  Maybe it is time to move this thread to the popular threads board as it doesn't really relate to any knee problems but just a way to improve KG. I notice too that Sheilla has to do a lot of policing and maybe there is a way to make her job easier. This thread could also be used for people to express other problems that aren't knee related as well and just want to get something off their chest. Maybe we should have a JUST LET OFF STEAM THREAD. THAT'S A JOKE GIRLS ha!!
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2008, 11:37:55 PM »
We use to have a "Whine of the Day" therad that was pretty funny sometimes.  Maybe we should start another...

Since you brought up "Tommy24" again...I do not find it clever..If someone has a point to make...Just say it...There is no need to hide.  Someone did the same thing (created a 2nd user id - "Jimmy") with in the last week and posted a nasty,mean,ill mannered post against one of the threads mentioned in Tommy's post. The "long thread" issue was brought there too. There were too many coincidences between the two posts that made me almost believe these are one in the same person. That is what upset me. 

I don't mind the long threads...if others do I am all for moving them.
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2008, 12:13:26 AM »
Maybe jimmie or tommy or whoever, went about it the wrong way, but I agree with one of the posters that it is ashamed that one feels so threatened that they don't feel they can openly discuss a problem. If they are the same person maybe they had an after thought that this was a better way to approach the subject instead of on a particular thread.  I think one of the biggest problems why a thread gets so long is because other people posts their problems on another's thread instead of starting a thread of their own. I find this confusing as it takes away from the original posters thread and I'm totally lost as to what the discussion was to begin with, and the only way you can figure that out is to go back to the beginning and try to figure out what the original poster said. This has happened to the thread in question and if you read the last few pages it has totally gone in another direction and no longer makes any sense from the way it started, but it keeps going on and so we have to fish thorugh these threads to find those who need our help and who are not just caring on conversations, which like someone suggested should be sent to the 'GET TO KNOW YOU ROOM"  It's like these people are chatting using the forum to do it instead of Instant Messenger or something. Just my opinion.
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Right knee (PKR)) April 5, 2005
Right elbow (Bursectomy)1998
TRKR 2006 Failed)
Left knee (arthroscopy)
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THR 1992
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2008, 12:56:15 AM »
KW I have noticed you are about the only negative poster here and are missing the point. Why has this become a popular thread if it isn't a subject that a lot of people find interesting. Obviously most of the people here don't really care who tommy24 is but rather what he has to say.

Personally I don't see my comment as negative.  I said I was all for moving the long threads.  That did not go against anything that had been discussed.

You made a comment that creating a 2nd user was creative and i have the right to disagree. I also have the right to comment on why I feel the way I do.  There was nothing negative against in my comment the topic.

We will just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2008, 07:11:50 AM »
Let each of us have our own opinion. Let's not start a war here.
I think this is good that we can open up and discuss what issues we have on mind.
I have nothing against long threads. But maybe we should use the board better. Social aspects of life maybe could be under " Know each other just want to chat". There are more then one group there having discussions and writing each other.
The problem is when new people arrive and read a headline to find out that the thread mostly is about the social life a person has.
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2008, 09:18:34 AM »
Hey - silly suggestion maybe, but perhaps "Tommy24" should come back and state why they made their comment. Maybe they will "reveal" themselves and say why they felt the need for a pseudonym.

This is an adult and open discussion isn't it? And as Nettan has said, the social aspects are well catered for in the Getting to Know You section.

Today I came in and had more posts in the My Recent posts link than in the unread posts section. I didn't have time to read them so I just marked them read and came back in my break to look at a few.

I think some people are taking this all way too seriously.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2008, 04:18:10 PM »
I think tommy24 has proven a very valid point that there is one particular thread that a select few people are deliberately trying to keep going as a contest. I spent all morning searching for threads that got little or no attention so these people would be brought to the head of the line and their problem made just as important. This last person who posted says this thread is popular as it relates to many people's problems but only a select few keep responding to it. Most of the threads other's can relate with or they wouldn't be able to offer advice. The thing is I thought a thread was to help the person writing it and not for other people to turn it into their thread by talking about their own problems. Comparing yes, but that is not what is happening here. They are totally talking about their own problem using this thread to do it instead of starting a thread of their own. Maybe they feel if they use someone else's thead they will get more attention as this thread is already established and KG is familiar with it. This thread has turned into a social event with the same people. If they are only going to help each other they could e-mail or get Instant Messenger. I don't think these people are helping this thread but ruining it. I for one have started many different threads as my problem changed. I could have continued on the same one and had a thread just as long, but I didn't feel it was appropriate then and I don't now. I don't think 3 people keeping a thread going constitutes popularity of the thread although that's the way they are trying to make it look. This thread has lost it's purpose and has gone in another direction. Has anyone found another thread this long. I can't find one even in pre and postop diaries. I for one am not going to post anymore until this problem is solved because I'm not going to feel I'm fighting to help people that are either getting no or little help and make helping new people a contest between them and someone who is jeaolous and can't stand someone else getting the attention. Blast me all you want because I really don't care at this point. If I want to help someone from now on I'll send them, an e-mail.
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Right knee (PKR)) April 5, 2005
Right elbow (Bursectomy)1998
TRKR 2006 Failed)
Left knee (arthroscopy)
Left knee (arthroscopy)
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Right knee spacer exchange (Failed) 2008
TRK (Hinged Prosthesis) Jan 2009

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2008, 04:39:44 PM »
With respect! you still dont get it!! So what if a thread is very long. My Tkr and recovery has been ongoing and now after 2 ops on my other knee i keep my thread going as the usuall friends know where to find it with ease. Along the way we do chat and have a laugh, its all part of the recovery process!! They do say that laughter is the best medicine...... so what is wrong with that, and yes.. other friends do post their problems on my thread, i cannot see a problem with that. If someone is helped by it then a good job has been done.

I get sick of people moaning about trivial things and this annoys me. This site has been a godsend to me over the last 2 years, its like a community where you can always find someone for help and support and make good friends along the way.

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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2008, 06:25:28 PM »
When I began to read this thread, I became upset b/c I have one of the longest threads on this board and it's been ongoing daily since January 11, 2008.  I started with a Fulkerson TTT and have developed RSD and other issues.  This can happen to anyone.  Is my thread suppose to be cut off and stopped now that I have a different problem still related to the same knee and same surgery?  Not many others on KG talk about RSD and how they feel mentally or physically about it.  So I have continued my same thread for anyone looking for info on recovery of a Fulkerson TTT that can turn ugly.  I wish that someone had this info on KG before I started dealing with it.  I didn't know anything about RSD until I was diagnosed and did my own online research. 

My point is that I have a 149 page diary that is probably 80% helpful to many people.  I have had many new people post on my thread with questions or just more support.  I also get lots of PMs and personal e-mails from those that have more questions.  I don't know what I'd do without KG, but I guess according to some here, I should just quit.  I guess I just needed too much help to get it here. 10 months is just too long! 

Just so you some of you know, I have been here to support so many along their ways to recovery.  I post on new threads and old threads almost daily.  Sometimes my pain is too much to sit at a computer long enough to catch up on all the ones I would like to, but I do my best throughout a week. 

Okay, grandma, attack me now. 

Farrah
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Re: THE PROBLEM WITH LONG THREADS
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2008, 07:46:28 PM »
Hi again
I am getting some good feedback even though this thread is a little 'warm'. I understand now the issue with the Games room. I will ask Leah if it is possible to write some code so that threads there do not get picked up as 'unread'. I misunderstood the original request and moved the games room board, but I think it is better where it is now anyway.

A real issue here, and I take full responsibility, is that this board is allowed largely to moderate itself. People are used to sending me an IM when there is an issue and mostly I am around to resolve it. 'Rules' have kind of developed as we have gone on over the years. Frankly I prefer it this way to the kind of strict rules moderation on many other boards. Sometimes where there is an issue like this allowing a little freedom to express onself flags up real issues that I need to resolve.

Now I have a request - please will those of you with long/popular/both threads get in touch with me via IM so that we can work out the best position for the thread rather than me having to get in touch with you. That will gain me a little time as I am very busy right now with a project relating to KNEEguru to try and bring some more money in so that I can get a bit of help.

If there are any more new points to be made here then contact me via IM - if not, let's call it a day and I will try and resolve some of these issues. I'll lock this thread now as it has served its purpose.

Thanks

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