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Offline JoniF

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Scared
« on: October 20, 2008, 02:28:13 AM »
Hello,

I live in a fairly warm climate and we get these little lizards that will sometimes get in the house.  Well, my dog decided she was going to have it for dinner if I didn't catch it and get it out of the house.  About two days ago I kneeled down on a tiled floor to try to catch it as they are very quick (not however; quicker than a determined Toy Fox Terrier).  As you can see from the many surgeries below in my signature, this was not teh brightest of ideas; however being an animal lover, I thought I would try and save this one.  Well, now the trouble is, my right knee (the good one) blew up to about three times its normal size, I felt something tear and my foot feels cold.  I am assuming that my foot feeling cold is just from the swelling.  Both knees are bad and I was supposed to have a TTT on my right knee as well, but after my experience with the left I just couldn't bring myself to do it.  I am in need of major hip/knee realignment surgery on both knees as well; howeverr, I live in the US and I was told that the procedure that I need is not nationally done (unfortunately I do not remember what it is called).  I have been using the RICE method and the selling has come down some; however, when I bend past 90 degrees it begins to hurt and stiffen as if something is there.  Also, when I have it completely straight and try to bend it, it also becomes stiff and painful.  I'm really hoping it's not the menisicus.  Any suggestions are welcome.

More time has passed since this happened and now I can barely walk on it.  I am still getting quite a bit of swelling and alot of pain when trying to bend it and straighten it from a bent position and my foot still goes cold.  Tomorrow, I will get a referral to to see my OS and hopefully get to the bottom of what I did.  I just can't believe that I caused this much grief to myself from just kneeling down.  I live alone so I am praying for some good news and that surgery will not be necessary.

Thanks for reading and sorry this is soo long.

Take care,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 06:21:57 AM »
I don't have any advice except RICE, but I'm sending you a basket of hugs that I hope will help.
8/4/07 fell
8/5 diagnosed TPF
8/6 surgery plate and 6 screws
8/12 out of hospital NWM
8/21 staples removed
9/18 OS appt - WBAT with crutches
10/10 - WBAT with cane
10/27 - back to work w/cane
12/26 - no cane, slight limp when tired
1/25/08 - released from PT, no limp
2/3/09 - Released by OS

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Re: Scared
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 09:42:21 PM »
Hi Mary,

Thank you for the hugs, could definately use them right now.  I could not handle the pain or walk to well anymore so I went to the ER and as of now they believe I sprained my knee; however, my knee is extremely swollen so the x-rays were inconclusive.  So home I came imobilzer, crutches, loritab, work restrictions and a promise to follow up with my regular ortho for an mri.  I am really worried about going to the ortho though, because full weight bearing on my weaker leg is causing it to buckle as and have pain issues as well :'( :'( :'(.

Take care,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 03:09:15 AM »
If you're having problems with trying to take all your weight with your weaker leg on crutches, since the one you hurt is now in an immobilizer, have you tried to "crutch walk" and see if you can put just enough weight on it to balance and stabilize yourself, and take just enough strain off the weaker leg that you won't fall? Sounds like it's either that, brace the weaker leg too with a brace that can bend, or consider a wheelchair. I'm not advocating going against dr's instructions, I'm just wondering if you'd asked about the possibility, given that your uninjured leg apparently isn't up to the task of keeping you on your feet.
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Re: Scared
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 11:07:22 AM »
Hi DM,

Thanks for the advice, I will definatelty try that.  I do have braces to wear for my weaker leg; however I am unable to wear any type of sleeve brace as they all seem to slide down due to the size and shape of my legs (quad atrophy, etc. calves are very similar in size, if that makes any sense).  Last night was a bear, I was in alot of pain :'(.  It was Loritab for me then night night.  Hope eveyone else had a better night.

Take care,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 01:31:38 PM »
... the ER and as of now they believe I sprained my knee; however, my knee is extremely swollen so the x-rays were inconclusive.  

A diagnosis of a sprained knee is useless. It only means they haven't got a clue what's wrong. Keep your appointment with your OS and get an MRI.

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Re: Scared
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 09:10:22 PM »
Thanks Jathib,

I am waiting to get my referral, then I can make my ortho appt.  Today has been extremely painful :'(.  I know unfotunately that I did more than just sprain my knee as I have bad buring on the medial side.  I am still quite swollen after icing, wearing the imobilizer  and elevating all day.  It just makes me laugh when everyone asks me how did you do it? did you fall?  What were you doing?  And my answer is, I just knelt down and the looks that I receive and what must be going through people's minds is that you're kidding right???


I Hurt!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Take care,
Joni
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1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 11:28:00 PM »
Joni;
  Hi, I apologize for not replying sooner, but it's been an ugly couple of days. I saw my Rheumy and he gave me Lorcet 10/650s to take for the break through pain. He's planning on starting me out on Fentanyl patches sometime this month, so I'll see how that goes.
   Have you seen your OS yet? I sure hope you can get in and get that knee taken care of. I am so sorry that you got hurt, I guess it goes to show that we have to be caeful and take care of the old knees. I just wish I had taken better care of mine as I grew older.
   Right in the middle of the worst Fibro flare that I've had so far my orange tabby Kidd brought me a present. He uses thedoggy door to go in and out, and he came in and jumped up on my bed. He had something in his mouth but I couldn't see what it was without my glasses ::) my eyesight is shot too, I put my glasses on and dang near fainted. He had a baby snake in his mouth. And the thing was alive. I hurt so bad I could barely move and I was terriffied that he was going to drop it in my bed. I eased my hand out and told him to let me have it. He dropped it in my hand and took off to find something else to torment. I could barely make out the little beaddy eyes but I could tell that it was a yard snake. I stumbled to the backdoor and let it go.
   I've had baby squirrels, baby possums, parts of rats, drug in the doggie door. My doggy babies don't drag things in, it's that crazy lovable cat.

Take care of you Joni and let me know when you hear something.

gentle hugs;
Angel

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Re: Scared
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 03:27:07 AM »
Joni,
Sounds like you might want to try one of the newer neoprene wraparound braces on the weaker knee. There are some out there with the metal hinges in them, if you need that level of support. The neoprene "grabs" better and doesn't slide so easily, and the wraparound style gives a more individual fit. The older elastic style slip-ons migrate something awful if you're one of those people without much for the brace to grab.

Also, to keep the immobilizer from ending up at your ankle, lightly (not very tight at all) wrapping your calf with a couple turns of self stick elastic bandage before putting the immobilizer back on will keep it from migrating down to your ankle, without having to cinch it down so tight you cut off the blood supply to your foot. It gives the foam something to hang onto.

Don't feel so bad, Joni, my original injury was a bowling accident!  :P :o :( >:(
multiple arthroscopies 2/00,3/01,6/01,1/03, 12/07,10/10. chondromalacia, severe medial joint space narrowing following 3 partial menisectomies, chronic pain problems, kneecap problems, OCD lesion, failed mfx.

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Re: Scared
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 05:26:19 PM »
Hi Angel,

How are you feeling?  Better I hope :D.  Are your meds helping?  You are much braver than me to take the snake from your kitty.  I think I just would have sat there and screamed until the neighbor came.  I'm glad it was just a yard snake and nothing more.  I have an appt. with my OS tomorrow afternoon.  I got my referral in the mail yesterday.  I'm really nervous though.  I hope I didn't do too much damage.  The imobilizer is causing me alot of pain as my knee does not want to stay straight.  It also hurts however to bend it though.....GRRRRR......

Hi DM,

Thanks for the tips.  I'm hoping that my ortho won't have me wearing the imobilizer after my appointment (fingers and toes crossed).  Did you at least get a strike for your injury ;)?  ANother lizard came in the house yesterday and I told my dog to go for it and she just looked at me like yeah right not after you yelled at me me like a lunatic last time I tried.

Take care and feel better ladies and many hugs,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2008, 11:33:13 PM »
I had my OS appt. today and he told me that I need to stay in the imobilizer (GRRRRRR.....) and continue to use my crutches.  He also told me from looking at my xrays that I have blood in my knee and I am to go for an mri and have another appt. with him next week.

I HURT!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2008, 07:50:14 PM »
Joni;
        Bless your heart, those braces are so uncomfortable, but they do help. Hopefully the OS can get you fixed up. Maybe drain that knee or something. Let me know how you are and what the doctor says ok?

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Angel

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Re: Scared
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2008, 02:21:44 AM »
Hi Angel,

Hope you're feeling better :).  My knee blew up to about three times it's size today and that is after staying off it and keeping it elevated all day :'(.  I still haven't heard when the mri will be scheduled (waiting on approval from insurance).  I go back to the OS on Thurs., I'm really scared that  he will recommend surgery.  From putting a majority of weight on my left knee (bad/weaker one) it is killing me today asa well.

Hugs to you,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 06:05:58 PM »
GRRRRR....Yesterday I fell and landed mostly on my right knee (the one with the "severe patella effusion").  I was told that there is still blood and fluid in my knee however all of the structures look sound.  Not sure if my left knee buckled or the right or both.  All I know right now is OUCH!!!  Both knees are now swollen and painful.  I have my next os appt. in January.  He recommended that I have an artifical grove and knee cap done in my left knee.  Not sure if I'm prepared for another major surgery though.  OS did say; that all other surgeries failed.  Just feeling lost I guess.  Thanks for listening to my ramblings.

Take care,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 07:02:37 PM »
Oh Joni,  I am sorry to hear about your fall.  Honestly, don't you feel like shaking your fist at the sky and yelling "OK really, I've had enough!"  I recovered from my Feb 08 fracture and then fell in October and dislocated and fractured my "good" knee.  I wonder what life lesson I'm supposed to be learning, if there is even a lesson I'm supposed to be learning at all. Alittle bit of the "why me" and "what have I done to deserve this"....basically, I decided, accidents happen and maybe there's no secret message at all.  Sometimes it doesn't help.  You're looking at another surgery and I know you think you can't do it, but I bet you can.  I kept saying that I only just survived the first fracture and couldn't do it again.  Depression was my biggest enemy and then fell and fractured my other knee and guess what, I'm 4 weeks into recovery and doing ok.  We're stronger than we think.  Get your head in a good place and you'll cope much better.  Good luck.
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2008, 02:11:25 PM »
Hi Adrienne,

Thank you so much for your reply.  It really means alot especially from someone who completely understands what you're going through.  I go back to my os in Jan. and I am trying to build up the courage to decide whether or not to have the surgery.  I just don't know if I'm ready to undergo the pain, the rehab and take the time off of work.  I find it so frustrating to have to go through another major surgery when all others failed.  I almost feel as though why wasn't this option offered to me sooner....

How are you feeling?  How is your recovery?

Thank you for listening,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2008, 06:59:50 AM »
Hey Joni,

I reckon knee surgery is probably one of the worst things, I know know why gangster used to shoot people in the kneecap...absolutely buggered them!  You need a "pro" and "con" list for the surgery...how bad are you now, what is the success rate for the surgery, will your life better better with successful surgery, what happens if it's not a success, can you wait or does it just get worse and worse.  I drilled through my knuckle once and sat for about half and hour trying to decide whether to reverse the drill out of my hand to to drill forward (ended up going forward).  Making the decision is the hardest part, once you've decided everything seems to get clearer and you're ready to tackle whatever is thrown at you.

I'm sick of being immobile, I'm 5 weeks post fracture, so I have just over a week to go till I'm back at the Fracture Clinic and I'm praying that I haven't done anything to the tendons or ligaments and I can start to rehab and get my knee bending again.  Like you, work comes into play, I have 8 weeks to be driving and bending to at least 90 degrees, I've been off work with another injury (which sadly contributed to both falls)so I would really like my knees to behave themselves so I can go back to work with the least amount of anxiety possible.  I hate the thought of going back on crutches, I hate being stared at!

If there's no further damage to the 2nd knee, I think I'm doing ok.  I'm am so NOT looking forward to the rehab again.  I sort of forgot how horrible it was until my lovely sister reminded me I cried every time I did it, 3 times a day.  Maybe it will be easier this time because I didn;t have surgery?  Who knows...but I know if you don't do the work, you're stuffed, so I'll scream and cry and get better as quickly as I can.

How are you doing?
Feb 08 Fractured left patella
Jul 08 Released 115 degrees ROM
17/10/08 Dislocated & fractured right patella
2/12 45 deg
6/12 Drove car
16/12 92 deg
21/1 105 deg discharged from PT

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Re: Scared
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2008, 09:16:31 PM »
Hii Adrienne,

I'm in alot of pain with both knees; however, after all the surgery failures on the left knee, I'm terrified to have anything done on the right knee.  My left knee gets more painful as the days go on.  I guess I just scaed as I live alone and as far as I can tell I woun't have alot of help during the recovery period.  I feeli so limited as far as daily activities (walking long ditances, siting too long, stairs, etc.).

I'm sorry for your frustration.  I remember when I had my TTT and I had to be immobile for 6 weeks with ho weight bearing.At the time I was living with someone so it made thisngs much easier.  When will you go back to work?  What type of work do you do?  I have a desk job, so if the surgery isn't a major as I think it might be, I will be able to go back to work fairly quickly.

I agree with you about the rehab, but you've done it before and you will overcome the pain and get your quality of life back.  You sound like me, just push through the pain and do what needs to done to get back to some sense of normalcy.  I've learned not to complain or talk about my knees anymore to my mother and sister because they just don't seem to understand.  My mom is the type of person that if you tell her your knee hurts, hers does to and it's worse than yours.  My sister seems to get annoyed when she hears that my knee is still bothering me.  She tells me things like how much more surgery are you going to have?  Umm until it's better and doesn't hurt anymore is my answer.  I am also not one for attention.  When I injured my right knee and was in an immobilizer and on crutches, everyone coddled me and if I had to answerr another what did you so? or what happened questions again, I thought I'd go mad.  I prefer to make sure everyone else is taken care of and not draw the attention to myself.  I also noticed that alot of the people who I thought were friends disapeared after me having to decline offeres to go out for drinks or dancing due to med and knee restrictions.  Injury can make it for a very lonely go.

Today I am elevating as much as possible as both knees seem to be doing me in today.  I was supposed to go out today, but had to cancel.  So I'm spending a nice day with my pooch, the television and my computer.  It's really nice to talk with people who are going through similar situations and understand that you are not just complaining to have something to say.

Hope you're feeling better.

Take care,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2008, 12:41:31 AM »
Hi Joni,

Oh I totally get where you're coming from.  I don't talk about my knees either.  What's the point, no one else gets it, unless their a KneeGeek, you can see their eyes glaze over.....I've had people make the stupidest comments and I'm never sure if I should slap them, laugh or cry, most of what people say isn't very helpful, so I tend to stay away from people and spend the first 6 weeks inside the house, once the brace is off, I venture out abit more and by the time I get to 90 degrees, I'm pretty cabin-feverish and don't care if people stare. My sister only says "God, I couldn't do what you're doing, you're amazing" so that's nice.

I'm hoping to be back at work by the end of Jan 09.  I fell down the stairs at work and hurt my shoulder, had surgery and something went wrong, so I've been off work at home for 3 years...that's no life so I decided I'd deal with the pain from that injury and get back into work, a social life and see how I go.  To say I'm anxious about all that would be an understatement...I could have done without a knee injury on top of it all but it seems I'm not destined for an easy ride.  I'm hoping for some kind of miracle that by being back at work and a life not focused on pain and injury that it will sort of retreat into the background abit.  Who knows.  I work for the Tax Office in Australia.  It's a horrible place to work, the internal politics are pretty full on, everyone trying to claw their way up the preverbial ladder and not caring who they stomp on in the process.  I don't do well in that type of environment, I like natural justice and the place is devoid of it.  I hope to be going back to a job that required no lifting or carrying stuff, just a desk job, data entry or appeals and reviews.  I don't get much of a say in where I'm sent.  It'll be interesting when I show up on crutches...like to see me carry anything on crutches, a cup of tea is impossible so......

I can relate to living alone too.  I have a 17 year old son, but he disappears for days at a time to his girlfriend's, some 20km away, and because he has to rely on lifts home from her parents, a day visit can turn into 3-4 days.  I feel extremely isolated and get very depressed trying to get to the toilet, eat anything, I think I lived on apples, pears, oranges, peanut butter sandwiches, biscuits and cans of tuna, I'd fill a watter bottle and just drink that.  I was too scared to have a shower for about 2 weeks and everywhere I went, so did the phone, just incase I fell again. 
 
I had most of my friends disappear over the last 3 years, you're right, as soon as you can't go to dinner, the movies, drink, bike etc, it doesn't take long for people to stop calling and even if you call them, you've got nothing to talk about because you're stuck at home reading junk mail and watching daytime tv:)  Oh dear, this is beginning to sound abit depressing and I'm not wanting to make you feel down.

I know it's hard to know what to do, you swing from wanting something better and the fear you'll end up with something worse and no one can tell you for sure which it is you'll get....

I think everyone with knee injuries comes across people who think a broken bone = 6 weeks and you're good to go..if only hey!  It's pretty hard to not feel life is passing you by when you're in the early stages of recovery.  Once I get mobile, drive and walk, I just give everything a red hot go until my knees say no more thanks.  I know I'll never kneal again, never wear anything but flat shoes and I'm just fine with that. Let me drive and let me walk under my own steam, even if it has to be with one crutch some times, I'm be grateful for that.

You know, I have big fat british Shorthaired cats, the closest thing to a dog in the cat world and I love having them cuddle up next to me when I'm watching a movie, it's comforting and they know when you're having a bad day and their unconditional love makes it a better day regardless of the pain.

Enjoy the tv and the pooch, not such a bad day really:)

Adrienne
Feb 08 Fractured left patella
Jul 08 Released 115 degrees ROM
17/10/08 Dislocated & fractured right patella
2/12 45 deg
6/12 Drove car
16/12 92 deg
21/1 105 deg discharged from PT

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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2008, 08:38:08 PM »
Not a good day today.  had to take off of work as I must have overdone done it yesterday just going to the grocery store.  Just feel like crying as I don't know where to put myself today.  My right (good knee - severe patella effusion) is doing loads better; however, my weaker left (surgical knee) is hurting soo bad.

Sorry this post is soo depressing, gonna go crawl under the covers now.

Take care,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: Scared
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2008, 09:35:46 PM »
Have you come out from under the covers yet?  Get's pretty hot under there, even worse if you're crying.  Get the ice, get the pooch and the tissues, just keep the pooch and the tissues apart:)  I hate pain and just wish it would give you a decent break every now and again.

Adrienne
Feb 08 Fractured left patella
Jul 08 Released 115 degrees ROM
17/10/08 Dislocated & fractured right patella
2/12 45 deg
6/12 Drove car
16/12 92 deg
21/1 105 deg discharged from PT

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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2008, 07:19:02 PM »
Hi Adrienne,

I just replied to you on your diary :).  Finally made it out of the covers.  Still in quite a bit of pain though :'(.  Stupid Knees!!!  I feed the homeless at a church with a co-worker of mine once a month, so I had to come into work today.  I'm just hoping that my knees will hold up.  I really enjoy doing it and I feel like I am truly making a difference in someone's life so I will push through the pain.

Hope you're having a pain-free day yourself.

Take care,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee















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