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Offline mattatack

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Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« on: September 13, 2008, 10:53:16 AM »
I have Patella Tendinitis in both knees. Physio has not helped me, specialist have not helped me either, everyone says it will get better in time but i have had it in my right knee for over a year and for 6 months in my left knee. I have carried on playing football the entire time, taking anti- flams and pain killers. I have managed to put up with the pain but i need to know how to fix it! I am not getting any answers for the "professionals" and was wondering if anyone had any for me??! I have read about the blood injections and other things but because i am in NZ im not sure if this is available to me here, if there is anyone from NZ that could help that would be great

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Re: Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2008, 03:48:31 PM »
Hi Mattatack,
I think the first thing you need to do is stop trying to play through the pain and just give your knees a chance to rest and heal. The anti-inflams and painkillers aren't going to help solve the problem if you're continuing the activities that irritate your knees.
I'm from the States, so I don't know what's available to you in NZ, but there is an operation that can be performed on the tendons. It's called an open tenotomy and basically, it involves scraping the dead and damaged tissue from the tendon. That is supposed to relieve the pain and stimulate healing. My OS performed it on my left knee last year and so far it seems to have helped. Only about half the people who have it get relief, though, and surgeons don't usually consider it unless the tendon damage is bad enough to start showing up on an MRI. It's a simple procedure, but full recovery can take months. Tendons heal slowly, I guess. It will be uncomfortable to stand with full weight for a long time afterwards. You have to be committed to taking things slowly and patiently.
No matter which way you go with treatment, it's going to take time and patience. I know that can be incredibly frustrating for an active person, but if you are serious about getting this problem to go away, you have to give it the time it needs. If you don't, you'll end up with a chronic problem and have knees that never stop hurting. Remember, you have to live with these knees for the rest of your life. Is it worth ruining them because you can't bear to quit playing sports for a few months?
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Re: Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2009, 09:24:23 PM »
Try looking up tendonosis on the internet, not tendonitis  - they are different things.
One is inflammation, but the other is small liaisons in the tendon, you have to have total rest, then slowly do exercises to repair this. It takes 6 months to one year... with no soccer or rugby and no jogging either! Try googling Tendonosis.
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Re: Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 05:02:42 AM »
I'd say that taking anti-inflams is only helping you get through day to day, but if you're continuing to play and do sports regularly, there is no way that it's going to heal.  I know it's not a fun thing to think about, but something like that needs time and rest to heal properly.  Continuing to do sports will only aggravate the situation and not allow for any permanent healing to take place.
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Re: Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 10:05:52 PM »
I'm in the same boat as you (but a bit further down the line). Good advice already posted by others in reply to your message. What you need to do is be clear on the difference between an inflammatory condition (tendinitis) and a degeneration condition (tendinosis/tendinopathy). These links might get you started:

http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/archive/tendinopathy
http://www.physioroom.com/experts/expertupdate/interview_nmaffulli_20060424.php

From bitter experience its vital that you rest. If you are lucky and still at the inflammatory stage (maybe not after 6 months?) then a RICE protocol (rest, ice compression, elevation) might help – and also prevent it getting worse to the point of tendinopathy

Again from experience I too had poor care from GP and initial physio - mostly because I was rubbish at explaining 'where it hurt and how'. Can you afford private physio? - if so you can shop around and find a good one. When the physio is good they’re great – ask them for prior knowledge and evidence of treating your condition! If you are into a tendiopathic situation then you may well find the help and support of a physio vital in designing and monitoring a rehab protocol.

Hope this helps - if you would like some more info about my experiences just shout

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Re: Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2009, 04:24:55 PM »
I have Patella Tendinitis in both knees. Physio has not helped me, specialist have not helped me either, everyone says it will get better in time but i have had it in my right knee for over a year and for 6 months in my left knee. I have carried on playing football the entire time, taking anti- flams and pain killers. I have managed to put up with the pain but i need to know how to fix it! I am not getting any answers for the "professionals" and was wondering if anyone had any for me??! I have read about the blood injections and other things but because i am in NZ im not sure if this is available to me here, if there is anyone from NZ that could help that would be great

mattatack

I have been using a high dose (2 grams 3 x a day) of cissus quadrangularis for the last month and a half for rotator cuff tendonitis that I have had for the last 3+ years. And can say this stuff is just short of a miracle for curing it so far.

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Re: Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2009, 04:56:46 PM »
all good advice. tendonitis is an overuse problem and you certainly aren't going to make it better by continuing your activities. you definitely want to give yourself time to recover before it gets worse. i'm prone to tendonitis in the patellar tendon, achilles tendon, and in my wrist (not sure of the tendon name there...) and from my experience it sucks but I just have to suck it up and lay off the activities that aggravate it if I want it to get better. my wrist is the worse because its my right hand which means no bowling, limited computer, and writing with my left hand. it takes weeks, sometimes even months, for it to resolve for me.
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Re: Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 03:24:46 AM »
One of the issues with tendonitis/tendonosis is that the tendons have developed tearing on the micro level, and continuing to put excessive strain on them doesn't let the tearing heal. You might benefit from the use of a "cho-pat" strap, which goes around the knee below the kneecap and applies some pressure to that tendon. It's supposed to give the tendon some additional support, so that ordinary walking etc isn't so painful. Might be worth a try.

My OS had given me steroid/anesthetic injections into the patellar tendon sheath, but you can't do that more than once every 3 or 4 months, because of the risks of making things worse if you give too many steroid shots. That's one of those things that's done ONCE, combined with an extended period of rest, no strenuous activity, and massaging the patellar tendon with ice 3-4 times a day to bring down inflammation without heavier drugs than otc stuff.

Stick to biking, straight leg raises, swimming, icing the tendon, etc, for an extended period until those tendons heal. Remember, they heal slowly due to crappy blood supply, so you're talking 6mos+ if the problem is severe. Be patient, you got the rest of you life to make those knees last.
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Re: Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 10:37:39 PM »
Hi, Ive had somthing similar to this. Try eccentric loading of the joint on a 25 degrees incline board. I had patella tendonopothy on both tendons after alot of hill running. One was operated on, the other was treated conservatively with eccentric loading. The left that was eccentric loaded recovered quicker than the operated one. The right is getting injected with PLP injection on friday 4th dec. After that the next step will be prolotherapy. Try googleing ''prolotherapy'' ''eccentric patella tendonopathy, tendonitis'' and PLP. I know how frustrating this condition is. I had it for a year now. But would recommend doing the eccentric stuff first. It realy helped me. Hope this helps mate.
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Re: Petella tendinitis in both knees and NO Answers. Help!
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2017, 02:59:24 AM »
How is your knee now? Have you fully recovered from Chrondromalacia? What Cissus product were you taking?















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