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Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« on: August 08, 2008, 01:24:45 AM »
Hey ya'll ;p

I'm Amberle and I just had my 5th surgery with Dr. Robert Teitge at DMC Surgery Hospital (formerly known as Michigan Orthopedic Specialty Hospital). I had the surgery Monday and have been home for one full day and am doing pretty well.

I suppose I ought to follow the guidelines and begin at the beginning.....

I was brought in to a see a doctor at St. Joseph Mercy Hospital in Ann Arbor to have my knee looked at. The doctor there said I'd subluxated it (which is almost a dislocation but my patella snapped back into place) and that there wasn't much I could do about it except ice and rest. However, in examining me he found that my hips were funky....Long story short I got sent to Dr. Teitge who did Xrays and MRIs and decided that my femurs were terribly rotated.....Really horribly. I'd dealt with pain with walking long distances in the past and being on my feet, and we finally were able to figure out why. The surgeries were scheduled for the following summer; leaving me with a year to wait.

The following summer (2006 I believe) I had 2 rotational osteotomies on my femurs. The surgeries were three months apart and I was on crutches for a grand total of 7 months. I had big steel plates and screws put into my bones to stabilise them, and in 2007 I had the plates removed. The surgeries have made HUGE differences in my life...Teitge still can't believe what a huge difference everything has made for me. 

August 4th (which was Monday) I had a tibial osteotomy....My right tibia was rotated 46 degrees which is double off what it should be/what is normal. It is now only 20 degrees. SO amazing. (I had to stop working at the Universiity of Michigan Hospital as a Patient Attendant because of the intense pain in my knee caused from such drastically different rotations in my tiba and femur of my R leg)Teitge came in to see me several times and just still cannot believe what a HUGE difference these surgeries make for me; they are truly miracles and so is Dr. Teitge. In fact, I'm going to have his name tatooed on my arm in a year or so when I can afford it. He's truly an angel in my life.

Thanks for letting me share :) These surgeries have been difficult and trying (particularly this one with medical issues related to meds and such) but SO rewarding! Cheers

Amberle

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3 Rotational Osteotomies, 2 Plate Removals at
Deroit Medical Centre Surgery Hospital.
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Ruler of X-Ray, Queen of the O.R and Princess of Dr. Teitge's Office.
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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2008, 03:19:43 AM »
Amberle,

I just read your story and had to leave a comment.  I love your user name.  I am the founding member of the Dr. Teitge fan club.  Dr Teitge is my hero.  I had MPFL recons and TTT revisions done by him 6 and 8 months ago and it has changed my life.  To be honest, it has given me my life back.  Dr Teitge is the most amazing OS I have ever met. 

Good luck with everything in your latest recovery.  I am sure you will do wonderful, afterall you have the best OS in the world.

Brianne

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2008, 05:22:44 AM »
Hi Amberle
Its good to hear about you! Do you mind if I ask how old you are? Also were your femurs rotated inwards, and do you know what degrees?
You were very brave to have both legs done so close together. Really glad its working out.
I'm from MI and will see Dr. T. in Sept, but I don't live there now, I do travel often to see family there.
Best wishes
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
4/08 - 9/08 Five doctors diff. opinions
7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2008, 02:55:36 PM »
Awww :)
Yes, Dr. Teitge is definitley my hero as well, without him I can't even tell you how miserable I would be....He has truly given me my life back too :)

My femurs were rotated severely; I can't remember the degrees. My R tibia was rotated 46 degrees and is now rotated 20 degrees. *YAY* In answer to your other question, I'm 22 :P My femurs were rotated inward...I didn't have pigeon toes but it's hard to explain unless you've seen pictures or me ;P Anyway, they are SO much better now; it's a miracle that my knees are actually facing forward and not inward it's just amazing.....Teitge came over to see me in the hospital (DMC Surgery Hospital...WOO HOO!) and just had this grin on his face and I asked him what he was smiling about, aside from seeing me (LOL) and he said he was looking at all my x-rays and scans and stuff the night before he operated and he still can't believe what a HUGE HUGE difference the surgeries made for me......it's amazing. He's the BEST!

Glad ya'll are doing well too!

xoxoxo

Amb
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2008, 08:58:12 PM »
Amberle,
I'm a fellow "twistee". Dr T rotated my femur this past Oct. I would l love to hear more about your situation, what and where your pain was before surgery and what you're presurgery activity level was.  Did you notice a difference in pain right away? Dr T asked me the day after surgery if I could tell a difference and I wondered if he was serious or if that was a joke.
Did you have alot of pain and snapping with your femoral plate?
Why did Dr T do the tibial osteotomy in a separate surgery? Did the femoral osteotomy increase the pain in your tibia or foot?

Sorry for all the ?s- just excited to meet someone else with funky legs.
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 Lateral release, medial reefing, VMO advancement, and TTT-  3/2/04
Screw removal- 5/24/05
Cortisone injection to pes anserine- 7/27/05
Femoral derotation osteotomy, TTT revision- 10/18/07

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2008, 10:14:50 PM »


My plate that was in my femur along with the screws that held it there ;)


Cat:

Wow, I'm SO excited to meet someone else with MESSED UP legs too!! Teitge said he hasn't seen anyone in his entire career that was as messed up as me....which I took as a compliment ;p Anyways, I'll try and answer all of your questions as best I can and you should tell me about your twistee stories ;) heehee

1. My pain was kind of all over...achy type feeling particularly after walking long distances and/or being on my feet for extended periods of time.

2.My pre-surgery activity level was normal; I just dealt with whatever pain I happened to be in and sometimes it didn't affect me. The biggest reason I had surgery was because Teitge said I'd have problems in the future (particularly arthritis) so he thought it best to do surgery.

3.YES, I DID notice a HUGE difference in pain post operatively. Granted as you know, you're in pain after surgery for several weeks anyways, but it was so different.....and of course the Vicodin helped ;)

4. YES, the muscle was over the plate and yes, I did have snapping & some pain when the swelling went down & I started moving more.

5.He did the tibial osteotomy seperately because first of all, we didn't know how rotated my R tibia was until after I'd had the second half of my femur surgeries and I started experiencing horrible pain on a constant basis and had to be put on Vicodin. (that all happened in May of this year) Secondly because the rotation in my tibia and femur (the difference in the two, actually) left my knee in a funky place and it was causing it to subluxate (almost dislocate but it snapped back instead of out of place) and that caused me intolerable pain....hence the Vicodin all bloody summer.

6. The femoral osteotomy didn't increase pain anywhere...the rotational differences between my tibia and femur were the pain causers and deal breakers on surgery this time.

*whew* does that help? I wanna hear your funkalicious leg story! Did you get taken to specialists where the residents started referring to you as the 'freakshow' of the office? LOL I had one resident at Teitge's who, after watching Teitge and others mess with my legs, just walked up to me and said "may I?" and I was like "yeah sure" and he went messing with my legs too....It was funny.

xoxoxox
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2008, 11:46:35 PM »
Did you get to keep the plate? Can't wait to relocate mine! I've got 5 screws, I think too. You only had 3? What does your hardware look like now?

1) My pain, prior to having too much fun skating, was hte same. Only I used to think my legs were just 'tired'.

2)If your activity level was pretty normal, what brought you to see a doctor? Was your pain that bad? Were you subluxing then? Have you had any previous knee surgeries?

3)So are you telling me that you noticed a difference in pain in the hospital- like the day after surgery already?

4)Did your groin hurt when you had the femoral plate? While you had the femoral plate, did you notice an increase in pain when sitting for long or crossing your legs? Did it hurt you to bear weight on that leg and if so, where? Was the pain solely in the area of the plate or did it radiate? Did the hardware removal drastically improve how you felt? Do you have any residual pain from having the femur cut and rotated?

5)Did you have subluxations prior to the femoral osteotomies? Did the correction to the femur and at the time, non correction of the tibia, cause the subluxations?  Both knees or just one?
Do you have shallow grooves or hypermobile knee caps?

6)Do you have any before and after pics?

My legs must not have been as funky as yours. The only time I was a 'freak show' was when I had my first CT done locally here in KS. The imaging center had never done a rotational study before and said they probably would never do one again.

I will relay my story later. Until then, here are links to my pics and to my post op diary-

http://community.webshots.com/user/catb2004

http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=39065.0

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 Lateral release, medial reefing, VMO advancement, and TTT-  3/2/04
Screw removal- 5/24/05
Cortisone injection to pes anserine- 7/27/05
Femoral derotation osteotomy, TTT revision- 10/18/07

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2008, 03:37:39 AM »
Hey Cat :)

Yup, when Teitge took them out he asked if I wanted to keep it and I said "YES!" so he cleaned them off and let me keep both; that was just one, but each plate was the same. I had 3 screws because the top edge was actually pounded into my bone, so it kind of held itself in place....The pain was just from the tendon kinda snapping over the plate in my leg, it was kinda just ache-y I think, I don't really remember too much. It didn't radiate and it was annoying and the plate was sore sometimes b/c the muscle was over it. I couldn't sleep on my sides for a while cos the plate stuck out so much.

No groin pain, the plate was on the side of my femur (outer/lateral), closer to my hips....Let's just say that jeans and shorts fit funny for a while ;p
Umm...the subluxation took me to a doctor. I had 'jumped' off of my bed and had fluid accumulation/swelling in my knee after that (and I couldn't stand on it, like it went out from under me kinda when I got up from the floor LOL) and so I went to see my doctor (David Janda) who did my shoulder surgery when I was in high school, and they called in their oldest MD who had no clue what was up with my hips (which the problem was really with my femurs) so they sent me to my hero, Teitge.

Yes, I noticed a huge difference....Not only was the pain post operative pain, but I didn't have the same pain I'd had before.....I could be on my feet longer and not have the horrible aches and pains I'd had before.

I had subluxations PRIOR to the tibial surgery, yes. MUCH more frequently than is normal. I was in to see my chiropractor at least 1-2x a week for them. I didn't have them after the femoral rotations but as the kink in my knee from the tibia/femur rotations became more noticable the subluxations happened more often. As for the kneecap quetsion, I have no clue ;p You'd have to ask Teitge LOL

Teitge has awesome before and after pics....I can do some searching and see if I can find some of my legs before and after.....

xoxoxoo

~*Amberle

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3 Rotational Osteotomies, 2 Plate Removals at
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2008, 05:26:24 PM »
I would love to see your befores and afters.
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Screw removal- 5/24/05
Cortisone injection to pes anserine- 7/27/05
Femoral derotation osteotomy, TTT revision- 10/18/07

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2008, 10:16:30 PM »
I will definitley do my bestest to hunt some down :)

How are you doing today?? It's been a rough sick-to-my-stomach-lots-of-pain-swollen-ankle day but other than that (LOL) it's been ok. My Grandparents came down from IN for the day and kept me company which was very nice :) Grandma brought me an entire pound of Starbucks Coffee (Pike's Place Roast...MMMM) instead of flowers, AND dark chocolate :) She SO knows her granddaughter and her coffee addiction :)

xoxoxoox

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2008, 10:22:58 PM »
Ahhh two of life's simple pleasures, coffee and chocolate. Cheese and champagne are nice also.

Best healing wishes to you Amberle, you have been through things I just can't even imagine. I hope when you are a nurse (did you say you are a student) that you will consider being an orthopaedic nurse!

Best wishes
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
4/08 - 9/08 Five doctors diff. opinions
7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2008, 12:48:33 AM »
Yum, dark chocolate but a no no for me when I've been on pain meds for a while. :'(
My Starbucks fav are their caramel frappachinos. Love those things!

Today I was too lazy and now my hip hurts. It doesn't handle sitting for long well. I'm hoping that's the hardware. My one pooch hasn't had anymore 'episodes' in the house though you sure would't want to light a match around her. Pewie, has she ever been tooting! She'll be kenneled tonight just in case.

Hope that ankle swelling gets under control soon.
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 Lateral release, medial reefing, VMO advancement, and TTT-  3/2/04
Screw removal- 5/24/05
Cortisone injection to pes anserine- 7/27/05
Femoral derotation osteotomy, TTT revision- 10/18/07

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2008, 12:06:16 PM »
O_OOO Frapps! I LOVE the caramel frapuccinos.....those are just amazing. Have you tried the mint chocolate chip ones? They taste just like a Girl Scout thin mint cookie....yummeh ;p

The ankle (according to my Mum) isn't as swollen today as it was before, but I dunno....she knows that stuff better than me so I believe her.

FormerlyActive: Hey! Thanks for the recovery wishes; I appreciate it :)

Well, ya'll, it's 7am and I've been up with pain since 6:12am so I'm going to try and get some more sleep.

xoxo
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2008, 01:03:31 AM »
Hi Amberle
Hope your ankle feels better soon. Does putting it in a tub with cold water help at all or you can't because of the surgery?
At the Michigan Athletic Club in East Lansing they have this awesome cold pool inside the women's locker room, good for swelling. We don't have anything like that here in Mpls at my health club.

I'll see Dr. T Sept. 26 in MI. I'm really looking forward to it for some insight into my situation after all these years. Sure wish I had known about him when I was 18 and started my first surgery path. If there is anything special I should know about his offices or being seen my him, please PM me.
Best healing wishes (swelling specific)
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
4/08 - 9/08 Five doctors diff. opinions
7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2008, 04:24:06 AM »
Hey!
That'll be an awesome appointment with Dr. Teitge you'll have :)

If there is anything specific you would like to know regarding Teitge or whatever, feel free to email me at [email protected] cos I can't figure out how to PM people on these boards...I know that's SO stupid cos I'm a member of several other message boards but these ones, for some reason, throw me for a loop :P And the tub of cold water sounds miserable...haha and I really can't because of all the bathtubs in our house....they have that ledge thing and it's hard to get my foot/leg/ankle whatever, over the high edge. I'm showering in our guest room shower which has that seat thing in it so I don't have to stand, cos then my ankle swells HUGE and it takes about an hour to get it back down....not fun times.

Good luck with everything!

xoxo

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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2008, 01:42:47 PM »
I think you have to post a certain amount before you can PM.

I have not yet tried the chocolate mint frapp but I'll be at Starbucks today...
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 Lateral release, medial reefing, VMO advancement, and TTT-  3/2/04
Screw removal- 5/24/05
Cortisone injection to pes anserine- 7/27/05
Femoral derotation osteotomy, TTT revision- 10/18/07

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2008, 03:54:56 PM »
O_OOO. They wanna make sure your'e dedicated here....LOL

Yes, do try that frapp...SO uber good. Although I still say the Caramel Frapps WIN all. ;)

I'm still uber swollen today :( I'm actually going to be working on a big huge thank you note/letter (more like letter! heehee) for Teitge. I realised i"d never written him one and I think he deserves it.

xoxoxo

Amb
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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2008, 04:19:05 PM »
Yup, Cat, you have to post 20 times, so Amb, I think you should be able to PM now. lol. I couldn't figure it out either, and then one day, I could PM. It was really weird. lol.

I like Cat, would love to see your before and after pics! I like you am a twistee. Here is a link to my pics if you want to check them out:
http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii244/Lyndsey200/

Do my your legs look like mine? Mine are pretty crooked, and I know exactly what you mean about being the show for the office. I didn't mind it though. I just wish they knew what to do about it. I went through at least 8 OS's before I found Dr. T. The first OS I showed my legs too went, "Holy Crap, you need to see a specialist!" That wasn't good, and it went like that until I finally found Dr. T.

I know it has already been asked, and you seem to know the degree of rotation of your tibia. Do you know what the degree of rotation was for your femurs, before and after??? I know mine before were at 67 degrees. My left is still there, and the right has been derotated. I was just wondering what your degree was on your femur. My tibias are at 35 degrees of rotation, and I hope I don't need them derotated. Dr. T said I won't know for sure until both my femurs are rotated.

When did you know you needed your tibia done? Was it right after you had one femur derotated or both? Did it take a while or did you know after surgery?

Take care!
Lyndsey
5/15/08      R femoral derotational osteotomy
1/19/09      L femoral derotational osteotomy
12/17/09  hardware removal (L&R femoral blade plates and screws)
10/28/10 removal of bone chip and cleanup of scar tissue on left
4/2014 15 deg. Re-rotation of L Femur
9/2014 L. Plate Removal & Fix Fracture

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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2008, 05:11:36 PM »
Yes, we want measurements and pictures! My femoral anteversion measurements were R 39 and L 30, tibial antetorsion R 41 and L 34.
Here are my before and afters-

Before-


After L femoral de-rotation (the one on your right)



Before-


After-


LOL, just kiddin!
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 Lateral release, medial reefing, VMO advancement, and TTT-  3/2/04
Screw removal- 5/24/05
Cortisone injection to pes anserine- 7/27/05
Femoral derotation osteotomy, TTT revision- 10/18/07

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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2008, 05:22:37 PM »
WOAH!
Our legs almost look the same! My knees looked VERY similar to yours.....you can tell they kinda faced inward but I wasn't pigeon toed....wow....awesome pictures! When I can stand I'll take pix of my 'new legs' and post them ;p Right now they wouldn't be so good becuase of my crutches....lol

AWESOME pix though!
Congrats mate!!

xoxoxoxo

Amb
PS- I'm drinking coffee....ooo life is good. Except my leg hurts really bad now...Druuugs! :)
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2008, 05:45:56 PM »
LOL, I'm not/wasn't pigeon toed either.  Think that's because the femur twisted one way and the tibia twisted the other way. Now I have one foot facing forwards and the other foot turns out.
I don't even like coffee but I DO so LOVE those caramel frappachinos. I'm off to have one in a bit!
BTW, how did you come to find the KG site?
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 Lateral release, medial reefing, VMO advancement, and TTT-  3/2/04
Screw removal- 5/24/05
Cortisone injection to pes anserine- 7/27/05
Femoral derotation osteotomy, TTT revision- 10/18/07

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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2008, 05:59:46 PM »
My nurse, Kris told me about them before I left...she said I should join them :)
Drink a frapp up for me :)

xox
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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2008, 06:03:39 PM »
Thanks for the pictures Cat! Its interesting he did your left leg, as your measurements were slightly better however that is the one with the TTT which impacted you medially?
I did a search on the web on the femoral de-rotation and there was a post by a woman whose child with cerebral palsy who needed the operation and the doc explained the external tibial torsion is some type of adaptation for the knees rotating in, i.e. some type of nature's compensation.   Not sure what I think about that as my left femur is more rotated than the right, however it is on the right leg I have the external tibial torsion.

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7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2008, 06:26:59 PM »
Well, since Cat started it I will stick before and after pics here too. lol.

Here is before:



Here is after:



You can see now my left is really crooked, and the right I had the derotation done on is pretty straight. My foot sticks out a little when my knee is straight, but I don't mind. I think the results are pretty spectacular, and I want my left derotated as soon as possible.

Later!
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5/15/08      R femoral derotational osteotomy
1/19/09      L femoral derotational osteotomy
12/17/09  hardware removal (L&R femoral blade plates and screws)
10/28/10 removal of bone chip and cleanup of scar tissue on left
4/2014 15 deg. Re-rotation of L Femur
9/2014 L. Plate Removal & Fix Fracture

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2008, 08:07:35 PM »
WOAH...Lynds OMGoodness!!!

That is a HUGE, GINORMOUS difference...I bet you feel BILLIONS of BILLIONS of times better :P

Wow...that's the worst I think I've ever seen.....

There was a girl in Teitge's office who had an appointment w/ him while I was in there (the day I found out he wanted to do surgery again) and she was going to have her femurs worked on, and Kathy came in and asked if I'd had it done, to which I rolled my eyes and said "Yeah, you should remember!" LOL Anyway, she wanted to ask me if I thought it'd be worth it and I was like "OMG yeah!!!" and kind of told the girl (she was younger...probably a teenager) a little bit about the whole thing and she said "thanks, I guess I'll go ahead and do it" so it sounded like my like, 'insight' I guess, made her decision. *YAY* I think she was going to do it this summer so hopefully, if she did, Kris told her about this site and she'll be on at some point :P

I'm still trying to find pictures...they're not as good as ya'lls cos I'd never thought of doing specific before and afters but I'll do my bestest.

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2008, 08:25:34 PM »
Yea, I was really twisted up. I can't wait to have the left done! I do feel TONS better. The hip pain post op is nothing compared to how bad my knee felt constantly before. I am really happy so far with the outcome, and am sure I will continue to be.

I wouldn't have thought of before and after pics either, had it not been for talking to Cat before the surgery. She suggested them and I was like, wow, thats a great idea. That and Dr. T LOVES pictures. He was so happy I took all these before and after pics. lol.

Cat here on the board was a great influence in my decision to have the derotation, and boy am I ever glad I did. Cat also referred me to Dr. T so for that I will be forever grateful! Thanks Cat! lol!

Lyndsey  ;D
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1/19/09      L femoral derotational osteotomy
12/17/09  hardware removal (L&R femoral blade plates and screws)
10/28/10 removal of bone chip and cleanup of scar tissue on left
4/2014 15 deg. Re-rotation of L Femur
9/2014 L. Plate Removal & Fix Fracture

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2008, 08:38:38 PM »
Awww, Lynds, that's so cute :) Cat's awesome, yeah? :)

I'll go get on my photobucket right now and start browsing....see what I come up with :P
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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2008, 09:02:19 PM »
Ok, I can't wait to see what you come up with. I love to compare pics with people. lol. Its a twisted kind of thing! LOL!
Yea, Cat is awesome. She has been a huge support for me through all of this. I can't believe all the information she has given me.

Looking forward to seeing some pics if you can find them!
Lyndsey
5/15/08      R femoral derotational osteotomy
1/19/09      L femoral derotational osteotomy
12/17/09  hardware removal (L&R femoral blade plates and screws)
10/28/10 removal of bone chip and cleanup of scar tissue on left
4/2014 15 deg. Re-rotation of L Femur
9/2014 L. Plate Removal & Fix Fracture

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2008, 10:12:12 PM »
:)

So instead of the wrapping, we're trying elevating my leg even more.....hopefullly that'll work, except it kinda hurts my knee :( Oh well, ANYTHING to get the swelling to go down!
Let ya'll know how it goes.

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2008, 10:15:27 PM »
Hey, hows it going? It sounds like your swelling is pretty bad.  :-\ I hope it goes down soon. Has it been this bad the whole time, or did it just get worse? Keep us updated!

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1/19/09      L femoral derotational osteotomy
12/17/09  hardware removal (L&R femoral blade plates and screws)
10/28/10 removal of bone chip and cleanup of scar tissue on left
4/2014 15 deg. Re-rotation of L Femur
9/2014 L. Plate Removal & Fix Fracture

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2008, 10:33:42 PM »
It's been horrendous with improvement, but not total reduction of swelling, since about Saturday.....my entire leg is pretty swollen and my foot/ankle are the worst :*(  Kathy suggested wrapping it (as I mentioned) but I'm not all into that quite yet...we're gonna lay me down in Mum & Dad's room and see if laying flat with my leg higher doesn't help...I'll keep ya'll posted.

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2008, 10:43:38 PM »
Good Luck! Hope it works! I am off to a Junior Horse Show Committee meeting so I will check back around 8! Hope to hear you are doing better!

Later!
Lyndsey
5/15/08      R femoral derotational osteotomy
1/19/09      L femoral derotational osteotomy
12/17/09  hardware removal (L&R femoral blade plates and screws)
10/28/10 removal of bone chip and cleanup of scar tissue on left
4/2014 15 deg. Re-rotation of L Femur
9/2014 L. Plate Removal & Fix Fracture

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2008, 11:27:47 PM »
Oh, my, (blush). You two have been quite busy while I've been away. Not sure I deserve all the nice things you said, Lyndsey. Just glad to be able to help a fellow twistee. There aren't that many of us out there.

Amb,
Have you not been keeping your foot elevated ABOVE your HEART? Too much computer time, perhaps? ;) Try it and see if that helps. Hopefully that will work.
Speaking of too much computer time, I think I just burned dinner. :-X

Later!

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Wonder how Kris knew about us??
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 Lateral release, medial reefing, VMO advancement, and TTT-  3/2/04
Screw removal- 5/24/05
Cortisone injection to pes anserine- 7/27/05
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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2008, 12:38:22 AM »
Hey A,
Dinner was narrowly saved- just a little bit crispy. :-\
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Its interesting he did your left leg, as your measurements were slightly better however that is the one with the TTT which impacted you medially?

The L one was the one that hurt so very much worse. Plus, I wonder if the positional change of the tibial tubercle affected the measurements.
 ;D ;D[/color][/b]

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Screw removal- 5/24/05
Cortisone injection to pes anserine- 7/27/05
Femoral derotation osteotomy, TTT revision- 10/18/07

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2008, 02:44:46 AM »
You know Cat I bet it did.

Thanks for the pictures everyone and glad to see everyone is looking and feeling so much better, albeit still at various points in the healing process. You are tough knee geeks!!!

Yes I agree Cat has been a massive help.

Best healing wishes.
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
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7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2008, 03:43:50 AM »
Cat,
Yea, we have been busy chatting. lol. Just trying to keep another fellow twistee company during the long hard boring recovery. Glad to hear your dinner was saved.

Amberle,
I hope you are doing well! Has your swelling gone down at all? Have you tried the ice and elevation? Hope to hear good news from you!

Later!
Lyndsey
5/15/08      R femoral derotational osteotomy
1/19/09      L femoral derotational osteotomy
12/17/09  hardware removal (L&R femoral blade plates and screws)
10/28/10 removal of bone chip and cleanup of scar tissue on left
4/2014 15 deg. Re-rotation of L Femur
9/2014 L. Plate Removal & Fix Fracture

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2008, 04:24:30 AM »
YUP! Swelling is WAAAY down....It turns out we were being stupid about the elevation & icing techniques we were doing, so my dad came up with the BRILLIANT idea of using the giant ice pack he had for his shoulder surgery (we've both had our shoulders worked on....lol) and moulded it to my leg....anyway, it definitley worked and the swelling, while not gone, is much better. Hopefully it won't come back during the night with my leg being in the immobiliser...I'm going to have to ask Teitge next week how long he wants me to use it and exactly when to use it..I honestly don't remember him giving instructions to me personally.....I guess he didn't, must have been in the orders.

Alright, it's 11:30pm here and I'm TIRED. Going to take a Vicodin then go to sleep.

xoxoxo

Amb

PS- I'm gonna try tomorrow to go through EVERYTHING with my surgery, including the full 'account' of the stuff that led up to surgery and following as far as I can through post op....just cos I wanna ;p I'll also try & post my thank you to teitge that I wrote today...FINALLY.
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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2008, 11:01:16 PM »
Incase anyone is looking, my 'hilarious' surgery story is on my Post Op Diary.... ;)
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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2008, 11:34:12 PM »
Hey,

I'm not sure I think your story is too funny! Maybe a bit at times, but altogether more scary than funny. lol. It is a good story. I recommend it for reading and info.

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1/19/09      L femoral derotational osteotomy
12/17/09  hardware removal (L&R femoral blade plates and screws)
10/28/10 removal of bone chip and cleanup of scar tissue on left
4/2014 15 deg. Re-rotation of L Femur
9/2014 L. Plate Removal & Fix Fracture

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« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2008, 08:54:27 PM »
Aww Lynds! Thanksies :) That's really sweet of you to say.....I'm glad people are learning from my experiences!
xoxoox

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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2009, 09:03:56 PM »
hello sorry if i have done this wrong im new to it and when i saw i have people that have mucked up legs like me i had to join!
im really scared about my operation they havent gave me a date yet and i have been looking at pictures of the bones and the metal plate and its really freaked me out :/

i have pains in my knees and when i have my feet facing forwards my knees seem to go inwards and when my feet are outwards me knees are straight! it really hurts to walk after a while and my feet lock.


so i was just wondering if you could tell me a few things...

did the operation hurt?

mr bache ( the man thats doing it ) has said i will be asleep when i wake up am i just going to be in loads of pain?

how long does it hurt for?


thankyouu!
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Re: Osteotomies...My Success Stories
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2009, 08:12:19 PM »
hey, i have the same problem as you guys.
and i have had my 1st operation and it went well and tomorrow hopefully my cast is going to come off.
its so cool finding people with the same problem because i find people just dont no what to say when i show them.
and they wish they never asked!

did you lot have the operation or did you leave it or what?

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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2009, 01:04:53 PM »
Congrats, Katie, on making it thru your first surgery. Glad it went well. Once your cast is off, I imagine you'll be able to work on strengthening unused muscles. What surgery did you have? Yes, we all had surgeries. You can check out the post op diary section for more info. I had my femur externally rotated and this past Dec had the hardware removed. Feels much better without the plate.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery and excellent outcome!
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« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2009, 11:25:53 AM »
Im glad to hear a success story about derotational osteotomies. On july 31st of this year I had derotational osteotomies on both of my femurs, fixated by intramedullary rodding and screws, as well as a talocalceaneal coalition removal, its been tough. My hip pain is gone, but my femurs are still not healed so the bone is really hurting with walking to buses and at school, as well as a few screws that stick too far out of the bone, and my ankle is alot worse off that it was, I fell like my pain is getting worse, not better  :'(
I am however getting one screw removed in january as well as an AFO for ankle stabilization, but the thing is Im getting my surgeries through Shriners Children Hospital Portland(Oregon) and when I turn 21 they can no longer help me, I turned 20 in October. Im trying to have faith that itll all work out, but the pain is really discouraging. Ive read stories of people who had similar surgeries and they never recovered and had to use crutches and canes for the rest of their lives, I really dont want to be one of those people.
7/31/09 L&R Femoral Derotational Osteotomies fixated by antegrade IM rodding; excision of R talocalcaneal coalition

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« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2011, 07:29:58 PM »
Helloo :) ,
Ermm i'm due to have a derotional femoral osteotomy, because my hips are at the wrong degree's causing my knee's to frequently dislocate ..
i'm going in for surgery on the 18th July, i'm dreading it sooo much, even though its still a couple of months away :(
Can anybody whose had this done tell me the recovery length?, and how long it took them to be able to walk ?
Thankyou ;D ! <3 xxx 

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« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2011, 08:37:57 PM »
Hi!
 I had my femurs derotated, and with each surgery it took me about 7 or 8 weeks to be able to walk without crutches again. I really limped at that point though. I didn't lose the limp until about a year later when my surgeon took the plates out of my hips. I'd say it takes at least a year to really feel right again, although it definitely depends on the person.

My right leg that I had derotated feels amazing. No pain at all anymore, it's like I have a brand new leg. I could run a marathon! Unfortunately, my left leg hasn't had the same outcome. It's been about 2 years, and i'm still having a fair amount of pain in my hip and knee. It can be really frustrating, but at least the surgery fixed the instability. I may have pain still, but I can walk and go up and down stairs confident that my legs are going to hold me up!

Hope to hear everything goes well for you. If you have any questions I check my email frequently at [email protected]

Feel free to ask away!
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5/15/08      R femoral derotational osteotomy
1/19/09      L femoral derotational osteotomy
12/17/09  hardware removal (L&R femoral blade plates and screws)
10/28/10 removal of bone chip and cleanup of scar tissue on left
4/2014 15 deg. Re-rotation of L Femur
9/2014 L. Plate Removal & Fix Fracture

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« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2011, 05:57:00 PM »
Hello :)
Ah its good to know that it took 7/8 to be able to walk with you, but the complete recovery length seems like such a drag :/,
did you have to wear a cast/brace or anything after the surgery?, or was it just crutchers?
My operation dates been moved forward to the 8th July, i'm so nervous, but kinda relieved that things seemed to have gone straight forward with you, (except your left leg, not being 100%) i hope your pain goes away eventually!!
--What was the physio therapy like?, and how long after the op before you had to start it ?,
sorry for the questions, & thankyou for replying :)

Katie :)
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