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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #195 on: February 09, 2009, 03:45:16 PM »
Hey Nick,

I would think that if it's been 3 weeks ago, I don't think it's being pushy to call and ask for a referral status.  I know they take time in the system, but it should not be a crime to check.  Sometimes you have to push.  It could be that the referral was not sent and they won't know unless someone tells them.

Need to be short, got a ton of work to do.  I think staying where you are working for a while is fine.  Just keep an open mind if it gets too difficult to deal with.  If you like where you work, you are luck, so many keep going to a place they hate because of bills or no other jobs available.  Seems like you boss isn't that way all the time and insensitive comments are a downer.

Milly
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'88 lt knee LR
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'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #196 on: February 10, 2009, 04:08:17 PM »
Hi All,

Snow starting to thaw now and only got a bit of snow last night, the golf course is very waterlogged and wont be open till at least the weekend.

Milly has suggested that I should call alexander up and would like to know what you other guys think I should be doing at this stage. Lenore I know you good at giving advise on what to do and can say your thoughts on my thread so I have at least 2 members thoughts rather then just the one.

My right hip was sore at work today and has been on an off the last couple of weeks and as I said yesterday now feel pain on the medial side and the tibia area that was not so bad before. To begin with it was just the bottom on the knee cap and lateral side now its all over that did not happen so much a few weeks ago.

I will wait till next week monday to see if letter comes and decide what to do from there any advise would be appriecated on what you would do in my situation.

Nick :) {2009} :)
RK: PFPS, Arthrofibrosis, Tendinopathy, Five cortisone injections
16/01/18 Anterior interval release, distal patella excision, lateral meniscal repair
18/07/14 Anterior interval release  
16/11/09 Medial plica excision, fat pad trimming

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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #197 on: February 10, 2009, 04:25:05 PM »
Listen to Milly Nick.  Good advice.  It has been long enough. 
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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #198 on: February 10, 2009, 07:22:31 PM »
Hi Milly and Lenore,

You are both right and has been going on long enough and not getting anywhere and about time some action was taken. My plan at the moment is to wait till next week Monday 16th February before I ring up Alexander reason being is because I should get an PT appointment date within 4 weeks according to my other PT Paul so will be 4 weeks on Friday so will give them the full 4 weeks before being pushy.

My Mum flying to South Africa tomorrow evening until the 10th March and she been the most supportive person who lives near me and would like a another person to come with me to the appointment. I like someone with me to make sure that I see an OS, its good to have some support when you go for an appointment. I will phone up Alexander on Monday after work and will say politely sorry to bother you but whats the situation regarding my appointment with you, my right knee is not getting any better and has become a little worse and hurting now in other area and my right hip is sore at times please could you arrange an appointment for me to see Mr Green or any OS that you think is suitable for my knee problems ASAP. Is it possible to see you anytime after the 10th March to discuss what the next course of treatment is as I cant be see you before the 10th March.

10th march is only 4 weeks away and happy to wait that amount of time as long as I get an appointment during the 2nd half of March and no lator. I need to phone soon to get an appointment during that time otherwise will go through to April.

I dont want to take my sister with me to alexander as she thinks my knee is fine just because some stupid junior doctor told her my MRI scan came up normal when it showed problems with the fat pad. My sister thought the ultrasound was an MRI scan of the knee so does not know much about knee problems and methods used to indentify them. All my other sisters live too far way to take me, so my mums the only one who can support me and knows I have a knee problem.

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16/01/18 Anterior interval release, distal patella excision, lateral meniscal repair
18/07/14 Anterior interval release  
16/11/09 Medial plica excision, fat pad trimming

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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #199 on: February 12, 2009, 07:26:12 PM »
Hi All,

I am still waiting for the letter from the Hospital to see Alexander and have got a feeling it not going to arrive this week and will have to make that phone call on Monday. I have worked hard today at work shoveling gravel and chopping up wood with an axe to make fire wood. I then went to the gym on the exercise bike and cross trainer 30 minutes on each machine.

At work felt catching a couple of times followed by pain on the lateral side due to heavy lifting and happens when I done some lifting. At the gym I felt pain on the lateral side and medial side of the knee when I was on the cross trainer that happens more often then before. When I had a shower before coming to the library felt pain at the bottom of the kneecap on the medial side that looks swollen and think the swelling increased more so maybe the fat pad even more inflammed then it was before. The swelling is at the bottom of the kneecap so must be fluid inside the knee that did showed up on the MRI scan back in July last year. Also at work felt pain around the tibia area due to the swelling towards bottom of the knee and feel at this stage that its slowly getting worse and want to see MR Green soon or any other good OS.

I have got good reason to ring up alexander now as I can tell him that my knee getting worse and finding it affecting my work and workout in the gym. I get on well with alexander and he very understanding and would do something about my right knee at this stage. I dont think its being to pushy and Milly right what she suggested to ask for a referral as its gone on far too long and now knee becoming worse which I knew was going to happen with the slowness of the NHS.

If I did not phone up before I would have waited longer then I am now and if I left them do it thier way would wait till 2010 till something happens. I got a good reason to complain now with the time its taken to see an OS and the increase in pain and discomfort and just hope its not too late to get my right knee fixed and do things I use to enjoy doing which is jogging.

Nick :) {2009} :)
RK: PFPS, Arthrofibrosis, Tendinopathy, Five cortisone injections
16/01/18 Anterior interval release, distal patella excision, lateral meniscal repair
18/07/14 Anterior interval release  
16/11/09 Medial plica excision, fat pad trimming

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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #200 on: February 12, 2009, 07:36:51 PM »
Hi Nick,

Sorry work is aggrivating the knee.  Are you icing after work?  Elevate and ice to help reduce the swelling.  That may make things a bit better (sometimes not however).  I think you have a legitimate gripe about how long things have been taking.  It's nuts to wait that long, when you should have seen an OS to start and not a PT.  PT's are good in their own way and can see things the docs miss for sure, but it should start with the doc first.  Not much you can do but work with the system you have though.  I had private insurance that is just a odd, so can understand the frustration.  You have to do what you have to do if you can't pay out of pocket (not many can afford specialist prices).

Rest the knee as much as you can and RICE it too.

Take care,
Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #201 on: February 12, 2009, 07:47:41 PM »
I can't believe you're still waiting for that stinking letter Nick.  What a pain!  (pun intended).

You've had pain on that lateral side all along but now you have pain on the medial side too?  Sounds like you have pain and swelling all the way around.  It definitely sounds like it's getting worse.

Hope you hear something soon.
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01/09  Scope for scar tissue, notchplasty
02/09  Diagnosed w/arthrofibrosis/IPCS
04/09  Scope for scar tissue, lateral/medial release
05/09  MUA
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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #202 on: February 12, 2009, 09:21:54 PM »
I will phone up Alexander on Monday after work and will say politely sorry to bother you but whats the situation regarding my appointment with you, my right knee is not getting any better and has become a little worse and hurting now in other area and my right hip is sore at times please could you arrange an appointment for me to see Mr Green or any OS that you think is suitable for my knee problems ASAP.

I dont want to take my sister with me to alexander as she thinks my knee is fine just because some stupid junior doctor told her my MRI scan came up normal when it showed problems with the fat pad. My sister thought the ultrasound was an MRI scan of the knee so does not know much about knee problems and methods used to indentify them. All my other sisters live too far way to take me, so my mums the only one who can support me and knows I have a knee problem.

Nick :) {2009} :)

Heya Nick!

Sorry i've been MIA.  but I've caught up with you on the Lenella thread :)  I agree with Lenore and Milly. It has been far too long that you have waited.  the way you described what you'll say on the phone on Monday sounds so polite.  I wouldn't say "please" or "sorry to bother you". But that's just me.  Make sure they dont' think you're someone who can just be put off longer and longer, ok? I've learned that you need to be assertive.  It doesn't mean you have to be an a-hole and yell (I don't yell at people). But you do have to make them realize that you're fed up. So speak in a firm voice, and make sure you sound upset. Don't sound like "oh i'm sorry to bother you, but if possible could you please....". I hope you know what I mean.  Im' a nice person (no laughing, Lenore! lol. Really, I AM nice. My mom says so! ahaha!! :D). Anyways, I'm a nice person, but I know if i'm too nice (like on the phone trying to get results) that some people will take advantage of that.  I wish i was your sister and I was there going with you to your appointment.  I'd get you some answers asap! hehe. I'm just ticked at how you, and Kirsty, and other KGs are getting the run around.  How can doctors not realize how you're suffering and need answers? It's sickening.....
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- microfracture of the tibial plateau
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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #203 on: February 12, 2009, 09:26:03 PM »
At work felt catching a couple of times followed by pain on the lateral side due to heavy lifting and happens when I done some lifting. At the gym I felt pain on the lateral side and medial side of the knee when I was on the cross trainer that happens more often then before. When I had a shower before coming to the library felt pain at the bottom of the kneecap on the medial side that looks swollen and think the swelling increased more so maybe the fat pad even more inflammed then it was before. The swelling is at the bottom of the kneecap so must be fluid inside the knee that did showed up on the MRI scan back in July last year. Also at work felt pain around the tibia area due to the swelling towards bottom of the knee and feel at this stage that its slowly getting worse and want to see MR Green soon or any other good OS.
Nick :) {2009} :)

Hi Nick,

I don't think it's too late to fix up your right knee.  We just have to get your docs to make you more of a priority. 

Im' so sorry that your knee is getting worse.  And I'm concerned that with all your knee troubles, that you do heavy lifting at work. I'm worried that is aggravating your knee (it probably doesn't help). But I know that's your job and you need to make money. Just try to take it easy (as much as you can in your line of work). 

I'll check in a lot this weekend. And on Monday. Monday is a holiday over here so I'll have a nice 3-day weekend :)

Keep fighting :D
-July '07-soccer injury
- microfracture of the tibial plateau
- arthroscopy in Oct. '07 (remove torn cartilage and repair microfracture)
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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #204 on: February 13, 2009, 04:22:23 PM »
Hi All,

Thanks for all your replies and still not got a letter from the hospital but knew it would not come. I agree with you nevella that I should not be too polite on the phone as its gone on long enough so got a good reason to be cheesed off. I have not told any of my sisters yet or mum that I want to phone up the hospital as they said my knee condition not bad enough to get an appointment soon as I can still do my job while others cant do they job so they come on top of the list.

I told my friend Jake that the longest I waited to see a physio is 3 months and said thats not too long of a wait so maybe I am impatcient as its only been 4 weeks since I saw an OS who did not even examine my right knee which a good OS should do, all he did was put the ultrasound machine on the bottom of kneecap.

How long did you guys have to wait to see an Physio as its seem to take forever to see one in the UK and even longer to see an OS. I saw an OS straight away in 2003 and not a Physio 4 times like I am doing now.

Nick :) {2009} :)



 
RK: PFPS, Arthrofibrosis, Tendinopathy, Five cortisone injections
16/01/18 Anterior interval release, distal patella excision, lateral meniscal repair
18/07/14 Anterior interval release  
16/11/09 Medial plica excision, fat pad trimming

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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #205 on: February 13, 2009, 06:23:26 PM »
You can be polite and firm without being rude Nick.  I'm not good at it but sounds like Nevella is.  You have a right to be cheesed off.  It's taking WAY too long just for a stinking letter.

Yeah sure, you're nice? Nevella.  As long as we aren't talking about FLB ex's.  Figure out that acronym!!!
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01/09  Scope for scar tissue, notchplasty
02/09  Diagnosed w/arthrofibrosis/IPCS
04/09  Scope for scar tissue, lateral/medial release
05/09  MUA
11/09  Scope for scar tissue, chondroplasty
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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #206 on: February 14, 2009, 01:29:52 AM »
Ahahaha! Lenore, it only took me a couple of seconds to figure that one out (Fat Lazy female dog?), lol :) Good one!  And you're too funny saying that it sounds like I'm good at being polite and firm without being rude. Yup, as a teacher and a former server in a high volume restaurant, I got really good at that :D

Nick, I can't believe your mom and sisters still say your knee condition isn't bad enough to try and get an appointment asap. Wow. I'm sorry about that.  They just dont' know b/c they've never had a knee injury. 

When you say a Physio, you mean a physiotherapist, right? If that's what you mean, over here there are tons of physiotherapy clinics.  But if you mean for an OS, most people have to wait a few months (we don't have that many over here). I was lucky and only had to wait a few days b/c the clinic i went to had connections to a wonderful OS (one of the top ones in Ontario).  So I hope you get results when you phone on Monday. Don't back down, k? Call them.  Is the office far away? Often you can get better/ faster results if you go there in person and insist on staying until you get answers or get to speak with someone.

ok, gotta go. i'm not feeling well (very bad cold) :D
-July '07-soccer injury
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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #207 on: February 14, 2009, 03:22:20 PM »
Hi All,

Still not got a letter from the hospital so looks like I will have to make that phone call to alexander on monday after all. I cant get my head around my knee as today not felt much pain at all and yesterday felt pain on the lateral side. If I look at my right knee compared to my left can see there is a lot more swelling at the bottom of the kneecap and the most swollen area is the medial side bottom part of the knee and sometimes do get pain in that area.

I went to see my 2 freinds Laurie and Jake last night at the hostel Laurie stays at and spoke to a women that had a lot of medical problems and just had steroid injection in her spine. We discussed a bit about her back problems and told her about my knee problems and she told me I am too young to get any treatment and be very lucky of the NHS treat me as there are older people out there that need TKR so my knee problems not important to get fixed and might not have a scope if it came to the stage. If you can still work then you must be ok and dont really need to see an OS according to her but think she does not know whats she is talking about.

People seem to think that if you can still do your job and dont need crutches your knee fine and making a fuss about nothing. I know many people my age and younger that had scopes done and think she jsut talking daft saying I am too young to have a scope if OS thinks I need one.

Nevella I seeing a physiotherapist Alexander for the 4th time and takes a few months to see an OS here as well been told by a KG member she had to wait 15 months to see an OS but that was 4 years ago hope its improved since then.

Lenore you can see why I call my thread nick's fat pad saga as it seems to take forever just to see a good OS that can help me out.

I think the least the NHS can do is write a letter saying you on our waiting list and should get an appointment within 4 to 6 weeks rather then keeping me waiting woundering if they have got my referral letter or not.

Nick :) {2009} :)

RK: PFPS, Arthrofibrosis, Tendinopathy, Five cortisone injections
16/01/18 Anterior interval release, distal patella excision, lateral meniscal repair
18/07/14 Anterior interval release  
16/11/09 Medial plica excision, fat pad trimming

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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #208 on: February 14, 2009, 04:57:15 PM »
Hey Nick,

Bureaucracy, gotta love it (NOT!).  It would be nice to know if you are in the system and in process of getting an appointment.  If you have waited the time they quoted you, then definately call and see what's up.  Like Nevella said, if it's close enough, you can stop in yourself rather than call.  It's a bit harder to fob someone off in person.  I think that poor older lady is a bit daft as you say.  Any injury is an injury no matter what your age. 

Nevella - feel better soon.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Nick's Fat Pad Saga!
« Reply #209 on: February 15, 2009, 01:49:58 AM »
Hey guys!

Milly, thanks for the get better message.  I've been feeling a bit better as of this afternoon :)

Nick, I hope that you're able to get a hold of someone on Monday and that they take you seriously. I'm glad that you're not letting some of these people around you convince you that your knee problems are all in your head.  there's something wrong with THEM if they think you're just imagining it all.  That just makes me so mad! >:(

Not much to write tonight. I'm eager to hear what happens on Monday after you phone alexander's office.

i'm glad your'e still going out with friends and for curry, etc, etc. You're not letting this get your down :)
-July '07-soccer injury
- microfracture of the tibial plateau
- arthroscopy in Oct. '07 (remove torn cartilage and repair microfracture)
-developed AF but beat it (avoided surgery)
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