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Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« on: June 19, 2008, 08:40:00 PM »
Please Help :'(, I have had knee cap pain in both knees for many years (used to be a long distance runner and still play netball), but the pain has become chronic in the last 10 months'

I consulted my doctor, and to date I have had injections, the kneecaps taped and physiotherapy with daily exercises to improve VMO.

The pain did not improve so  I was referred to an orthopaedic surgeon who has given me a diagnosis of chondromalacia patellae,and that the kneecaps are also misaligned ,the consultant told me to get on with my life and put up with the pain and stop playing netball. He is arranging for me to have MRI scans

I am now struggling with everyday activities and unable to go to work as I can not drive or sit at my desk, I am 43 and do not want to put up with this pain for the rest of my life.

Should I get a second opinion, my own doctor is totally behind me and agrees that there must be something that can be done.

Has anyone else got this condition and what did you do if all conservative measures failed. Thanks


 
 

 

 
 

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 09:19:55 PM »
Hi there,

Definately seek another opinion.  Just live with it is the biggest cop out!  There are some things that may be done depending on the reason for the malignment.  I went to PT for what felt like eons until I finally had surgery for the problem.  I have since done other damage to my knees which I am working on now. 
Good luck.
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 09:26:37 PM »
Hi There

Thanks for the reply.

I totally agree with you I felt as though it was a total cop out, bet he wouldnt just live with it.

Could you tell me what surgery you had and did it work.

Thanks

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 01:44:14 PM »
You can see the list in my signature, but I'll give you a run down.  I had my first scope at about 13 or so, the only thing the doc did was bascially manipulate the knee so I could straighten it again.  I'd been holding my foot up and limping so the knee almost froze that way.  The next surgeries I had were at around 19 (I lived with pain for that long, I'm stubborn).  With in 6 months I had two lateral releases, one each knee.  This did seem to help for 8-10 years or so.  Then the knees started acting up again.  I didn't do anything more until about two years ago.  My kids were just too small for me to be on crutches and such before.  Now they are pretty self sufficient, so they can take care of me for a bit of a change.  The last surgery was a bilateral scope (I didn't have enough sick time to take off twice).  He just cleaned up behind the kneecap on the right, but did a lateral release on the left.  It has made things worse this time.  I don't think it was the right thing for it at this point.  I have also been told to wait and see.  So I am waiting to see a new OS.  I do trust the one I have, I just don't think he knows what to do about my knees right now.  So I've looked up one that has specialized in kneecaps and their issues.  Good luck to you.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2008, 01:54:56 PM »
Hi Milly

Thanks for your reply it has really helped, Im going to see new OS in next couple of weeks will let you know what happens.

Jan

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2008, 05:41:00 PM »
Glad I could help.  I hope the new OS listens and gives you something to go on.  Best wishes.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2008, 06:38:21 PM »
Im just about in the same place that TwoBadKnees is in but so far (knock on wood) my left knee is doing great after having a lateral release done on it about 12 years ago. The right is a different story. Just had my 4th Scop and 2nd Lateral release done on that knee about 4 weeks ago and even the doc admitted that it might not help that much with the amount of damage and wear that he found. BUT at least he is willing to look at another option as soon as my husband is off crutches (so that he can take care of me, he broke his knee and has a plate and 6 screws holding it together). Hopwe that you get some good news from the new doc. Good luck
I'm so busy that I'm not sure if I lost my horse or just found my lead rope.

1989 - Right Knee - don't rember what they did
1997 - Right Knee - Orthoscopic clean up again
2000 - LR on left knee
2001 - LR on right knee
2008 -LR on right knee (again)
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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 06:45:57 PM »
Hi, was lateral release done for maltracking problems? do you also have chondromalacia patellae?

I have an appt to see new OS on 17th July he specialises in patella problmes so hoping that he will do something for me so that I can get my life back

Thanks for your reply

Jan

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2008, 07:37:12 PM »
Yes i was diagnosed with chondromalacia in both my knees when i was 15. The Right knee was misaligned pretty good and has issues with tracking properly. My old OS was constintaly telling me that there was nothing esle that he could do. Went to the one that i see now and he did the x-rays and MRI and everything looked good from those (other than my kneecap not sitting correctly) But he went in with the scope to "clean things up' and was surprised at how much wear and tear and damage there was in there. That was why he did the second Lateral Release he was trying to loosen things up. It didnt help but there is more that he wants to do or he is even thinking about just going ahead and replacing the knee completely so that i can have my life back. Just gald that i FINALLY (after living and dealing with it for 20 years) found an OS that listened to me and took the time to find out what was really going on.
I'm so busy that I'm not sure if I lost my horse or just found my lead rope.

1989 - Right Knee - don't rember what they did
1997 - Right Knee - Orthoscopic clean up again
2000 - LR on left knee
2001 - LR on right knee
2008 -LR on right knee (again)
9-18-2009 - Maquet osteotomy right knee

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2008, 08:05:24 PM »
Hi

Thanks for that it was really helpfull. I agree with you why should we just put up with things, im hoping that the new OS that I see is going to take the time to listen, last one I saw I was in in and out in 10 minutes and didnt give me chance to expalin everything to him. Will keep you informed and thanks for your help.

Jan

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 02:19:52 PM »
let me know how what the new doc says. if you want here is my email address and  you can email me. Always nice to find someone that has the same knee problems that i do and understands how it is
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I'm so busy that I'm not sure if I lost my horse or just found my lead rope.

1989 - Right Knee - don't rember what they did
1997 - Right Knee - Orthoscopic clean up again
2000 - LR on left knee
2001 - LR on right knee
2008 -LR on right knee (again)
9-18-2009 - Maquet osteotomy right knee

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2008, 05:32:14 AM »
Its good you are getting a better eval. Your initial diagnosis was very general i.e. "chondro", you can look it up but it is often confused with a bunch of other things. There are people on this board who can explain it better than I. However I have been diagnosed with chondro since 1980 and both times I had surgery the good doctors who did it, fixed what was wrong and told me my cartilage was fine so the diagnosis by the other docs was faulty. You are right to get to the bottom of it, let us know what your diagnosis is and then there are lots on this board who know about many conditions. Take good care.
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
4/08 - 9/08 Five doctors diff. opinions
7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2008, 10:29:59 AM »
I hope you keep us posted, I'm curious to know how it went for you.  I don't have a tracking problem though my CP was caused by knee trama.  So my doctors are lost as to what to do and I have had the best docs in the business look at my knee,  so I hope yours goes better then mine. Good luck.  ;D
Tore ACL march 11-05
Had exploratory surgery Dec 27-05
Had knee scoped but ACL was not repaired Dec 05
Was diagnosed with Chrondomalacia of the patella-
and was scoped for but in stage 3 Dec 05
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Had anti inflammatory shots Feb-mar 06
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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2008, 08:57:59 PM »
Hi All

Just to give you an update went to see new OS today, he was shocked at the condition of my knees, having lateral release and shaving next thursday on my right knee and the left done in a couple of months, glad that something being done but really nervous as I have read so many horror stories.

Thanks for all your support, will let you know how it goes next week

Jan

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2008, 10:15:04 PM »
Hi
Just wondering was he shocked by the physical exam or the MRI or Xrays?

Good you are having some resolution. Keep us posted.

Wanted to ask Cheryl (Probull) and Milly - you both mentioned having second lateral releases done on the same knee? (not each's knees but your own ; you know what I mean!)
I keep seeing people on this board mention that but my OS says you can only have a lateral release done once ; did they only do a partial cut of the lateral retinacular the first time? How are you able to have a second one on same knee?
I ask because I feel like I need it again and they tell me its impossible. Appreciate any inf. 
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
4/08 - 9/08 Five doctors diff. opinions
7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2008, 10:24:26 PM »
Hi

He was shocked by the physical appearance and the noise they make with the slightest of movement, havnt had MRI as never got an appointment from old OS, had new xrays done other day with all types of views and it showed that I also have tilted kneecaps and no space in between (not sure really what he meant), but that is the main reason he doing the lateral release, dom't no why this never showed up on last lot of xrays?

What was your recovery like after your lateral release, my OS is hoping to do my other knee in about 3 months

Im in touch with Cheryl via email as it easier if you want to email me my address is [email protected]


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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2008, 05:50:53 PM »
Wanted to ask Cheryl (Probull) and Milly - you both mentioned having second lateral releases done on the same knee? (not each's knees but your own ; you know what I mean!)
I keep seeing people on this board mention that but my OS says you can only have a lateral release done once ; did they only do a partial cut of the lateral retinacular the first time? How are you able to have a second one on same knee?
I ask because I feel like I need it again and they tell me its impossible. Appreciate any inf.

I had my first one on the left knee almost 20 years ago.  Scar tissue will form in the space left behind.  My kneecap was subluxed (hanging over the edge) toward the outside, so the OS released it again.  I do not know how much of a release was done so long ago, but the last one was substantial.  I have been told that the scar tissue can grow in and pull the kneecap laterally again.  Not sure if this answered your question or not.
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2008, 08:41:40 PM »
Thanks, well it only 2 days to go, I am very nervous as I have heard so many horror stories, but if I do not go ahead with it I will never know and I just can not keep living like this.

Will let you know how it goes.

Chat soon

Jan

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2008, 04:53:24 AM »
Dear TwoBad - thank you for your very helpful info re lateral release! Yes, I recall my original surgeon said it filled in with scar tissue. Important question: HOW did they figure out it is on the outside again? Very curious to know!!! You can PM me instead if you prefer.

Dear Jan-
If there is any way you can ask them to make a tape of your surgery it would be good for you to have because with the kneecap stuff it is the best picture of what it looks like now. Not all places can do it but worth it to ask.  Very best wishes to you and keep us posted.
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
4/08 - 9/08 Five doctors diff. opinions
7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2008, 01:23:48 PM »
I don't mind "talking" about it.  When the doc went in to scope the knee the kneecap was hanging over the lateral edge of the femur about 30% (that's what the op report said).  He also took pics during surgery and I could see it too.  Obviously not enough to see by eyeball from the outside, but enough to be a problem.  I think mine might have shifted back over time and the lateral structures got tight again, also I fell right on my knees with no way to catch myself.  The poor kneecaps hit the ashphalt first.  I was thankful I had a pair of knee braces on! They have a soft doughnut that goes around the kneecap to relieve pressure, so they too the brunt of the fall or I may have cracked a kneecap.   :-*    I hope this helps you out.
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2008, 03:39:57 PM »
Hi All

Well had surgery, 2 days post op and oh my im in pain, OS did lateral release, shaved my patella and drilled holes in patella, not sure what the holes are for?

Will keep all all posted and thanks for all support

Jan

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2008, 01:38:59 PM »
Hi Jan,

Sounds like the OS may have done some microfracture.  It is a way to "heal" the cartilage.  I know with a LR I was in lots of pain, and I've heard that microfracture can be quite painful too.  Try to stay on top of the pain and take it easy.

Take care,

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2008, 04:34:30 PM »
Hi Milly

Thanks, I tried to get off crutches today but far to painfull at the moment, was hoping to drop it down to 1 stick but will leave it a few more days and try again.

It been an awful few days as my dad is terminally ill and has deteriated very quickly over the past couple of days, I have been living with Dad and caring for him for the past 8 months, the good think is I have a wonderful family who are coming to see us everyday and help us both out.

Chat soon take care

Jan

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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2008, 05:12:25 AM »
Hi Jan
Glad to heare you are on the other side of surgery. Yes I had pain with my LR and I had both done at same time so I had a very long recovery. Also I was very careful.

I am so so sorry to hear about your father. I'm sure he is glad to have you in his life.  Thinking of you.
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
4/08 - 9/08 Five doctors diff. opinions
7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2008, 04:52:37 PM »
Hi Jan,

Let your knee be your guide for dropping a crutch.  If it's too painful with one, use two.

I am sorry about your dad.  It good that you can take care of him, but don't forget taking care of you.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2008, 03:55:08 AM »
Dear Milly
Sorry I forgot to thank you for your post. That was interesting they detected it during the scope (where they can test it) they don't seem to be able to figure it out any other way (i.e. kneecap hanging on the outside). In the MRI the knee is slightly bent so they claim that detects it but I don't think so because the issue is when the knee is straight. I really wish the best for you.

I suspect that is my issue but doc seemed uninterested, told me I have "patellar maltracking and chondral changes" and there is no clear surgical option. That perhaps my injury will heal itself (it has been 4 months now since March 18 hiking injury). I just have to decide how long to wait because at my age (46) there is no way I am going to be limping another 40 years. And this is the top PF specialist in our rather large city.
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
4/08 - 9/08 Five doctors diff. opinions
7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2008, 01:37:44 PM »
Hey no problem.  I think x-rays and MRIs are good, but getting a look at the real thing makes a big difference.  I hope there is something else they can suggest for you.  No one wants to limp around in pain for several years.  I am getting a second opinion myself.  Taking pills all the time and sitting on the sidelines of life is not the answer.  I'm not yet 40 and there are things I want to be able to do.  Take care.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2008, 02:21:47 PM »
Hi All

Just to let you know my wonderfull dad passed away peacefully on Thursday morning.

Jan

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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2008, 02:42:59 PM »
Hi Jan,

So sorry your father has passed.  It is good that he went peacefully.  It sounds like you have wonderful memories of him. 

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2008, 12:44:37 PM »
Hi All

Hope you are all well, I am now 4 weeks post op and went to see OS yesterday he was very pleased with my progress and feels that it has been a success.

I am still in quite alot of pain (different pain from before the surgery) but can now manage to get up stairs but getting back down is a nightmare, there is still alot of swelling but Im iceing it as much as possible but I hate it, down to 1 walking stick and really only need that as my un-operated knee keeps giving way, having same surgery on that on the 2nd October.

Jan

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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2008, 01:09:58 AM »
Hi Jan,

So far it seems like you are doing pretty well.  Going down stairs well is usually the last thing that comes back.  The unoperated knee is likely not too happy about taking most of the load.  It may have the same issues as the op knee.  Looks like you will be having something done for it soon.  Quite often there is quite a bit of pain around where the release was done, and it seems to last a while.  It does get better and you are still only a month out.  I hope things really improve for you.  Good luck and keep us posted.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2008, 01:10:51 PM »
Hi All

Well just to let you know that having right knee done tomorrow, Os doing the same as before a Lateral Release ad Chondraplasty, I must be mad it only 10 weeks since I had left one done and I am still struggling with recovery, every now and then knee cap feels as though it slipping from side to side and the pain is worse than before.

Will keep you all posted

Jan

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« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2008, 04:51:41 PM »
Good luck Jan.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2008, 04:22:30 AM »
Jan
I'm so sorry to hear about your father.
Thinking of you at this time.
Best wishes
3/82 - Medial Synovial Plica removal both knees
9/89 - Lateral Release both knees
3/08 - Reinjury left knee hiking Asia Pac
5/08 - Miserable Malalignment diagnosis
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7/08 - 02/09 - In PT, no chg.
4/09 - Dr. 6 opinion femur & tibia derotation together

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2008, 04:30:26 PM »
Hi All

How are things going for you all, hope that you better than me.

How long after your surgery did you feel ok again and pain free.

It nearly 3 weeks since I have had the left knee done(same as before lateral release and chondraplasty) and what a big mistake to have both knees done in 10 weeks, I am really struggling to get around and in so much pain from both knees.

Went to see physio today and she has made me go back on my crutches as im putting to much pressure on my right knee(1st one done) and it causing me a great deal of pain and I could end up doing damage to it.

Going to see OS on thursday as got hugh lump on side of my left knee which is full of blood and fluid (physio did give it a name but can't remember it now) apparently it is very common after this type of surgery but I might need it draining. Do you know what it called?

Jan

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2008, 05:49:29 PM »
Hi Jan,

Sorry you are in such pain.  Three weeks isn't too long and 10 weeks is a bit close together.  It will probably take a while longer to start feeling anywhere normal again.  When I had my prior lateral releases, the OS made me wait 6 months before he would do the second one.  I think that was still too close together.  I think I know what the lump is, I had one too many years ago.  I can't think of what in the heck it's called though.  There can be a bit of internal bleeding after a lateral release.  Good luck and hope you are feeling better soon.

Milly
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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2008, 11:15:17 AM »
Hi Milly

Thanks for that, I pushed my OS to do the 2nd knee so quick as with dad dying I didnt want to be sitting around thinking all the time, but I know now that it was a big mistake and it will probably take me longer to get over it.

The trouble with me I expect miracles and that everything would be fine straight away

Jan

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2008, 08:50:44 PM »
I can appreciate wanting to get it done.  Now where did I put that magic wand???? ???

I think we all expect instant results.  Take it easy and eventually it will get better.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.

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Re: Chronic Knee Cap Pain
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2008, 10:51:03 PM »
Hi All

Hope you are all ok, how are things with you all

I went to see OS as Im still having alot of problems with my right knee which was done 19 weeks ago now, he had decided that the lateral release has not worked and is going to try to do it 1 more time in January 08, I am not looking forward to it but if the outcome is as good as my left knee which was only done 9 weeks ago I will be pleased. I am pain free and able to do more than before with the left knee so that has been a great success.

Will keep you all posted.

Jan