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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #135 on: March 13, 2009, 05:28:56 AM »
Hello everyone,
Well I'm working 7 hours a day, 5 days a week...I love being back at work but I am sure tired at the end of the day and have to really push to get through the dishes when the kitchen closes to the kid at 9pm.  Funnily enough, still not sleeping more than 5 hours but I'm doing ok on that.

The right knee is getting better all the time, I'd say pretty close to normal now.  The left knee, well that's another story..actually more like just the difference betwen a fracture with surgery and one without.  5 months since the last fracture, so I'm pretty pleased with myself.  Still scared witless most of the time, I watch every step I take and look out for hidden dangers all the time.  I watch people hurrying by me and marvel at their blissful ignorance, how easily they walk and run.....I have knee envy.

All in all things are good.  Not the same as before...I think that's a complete myth, no gimpy knee will ever be the same as before.  I still have the horrible tight robot knee, that depends on the weather alot.  I'm just starting to be able to stand up without too much effort but kneeling and squatting are off the agenda for good.  I'm walking with no crutches but definately fall under the tortoise category.

I often read your posts but don't post myself, saving my shoulder for work I'm afraid.  I'm glad to hear you're all progressing and living the best life you can.

Adrienne

Feb 08 Fractured left patella
Jul 08 Released 115 degrees ROM
17/10/08 Dislocated & fractured right patella
2/12 45 deg
6/12 Drove car
16/12 92 deg
21/1 105 deg discharged from PT

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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #136 on: March 13, 2009, 06:17:02 AM »
Adrienne, I am so thrilled for you that you have your life back!!!  I hope it feels great mentally to be busy again and be making money!  I hope the money parts helps stress levels!  I know how tight money can get when you are out of a job and paying lots of medical bills. 

I know what you mean when you envy those that can walk quickly to get to where they need to be.  I find myself thinking of the path I have to walk and realize it takes 3 times as long or longer for me compared to a normal person.  Like today, I had an OS appt and after he called me, I had a long walk down the hall.  The assistant guy was trying to walk slowly like me, but was getting impatient and started to get ahead.  He joked about it, but I did wish I was done with my cane and could walk right.  I have news on my diary about a new diagnosis on my knee causing all kinds of pain I have.  It's patellar tendinosis.  My patellar tendon is grossly inflamed and is the worst one anyone in my OS office or PT office had ever seen.  They diagnosed it using the diagnostic ultrasound test to see the tendon.  My bad one is about 3 times thicker than the "good" one.  I am having a simple procedure done in 2 weeks.  "PRP" is where they draw blood, separate the red and white blood from the platelets.  Then they inject these platelets right into the tendon to promote healing.  More info on my diary...and a video linked to youtube if you want to see how the separation is done.  This procedure may have to be done up to two times depending on the results.  So once this knee cap pain goes away, I will only have about 50% of my RSD pain left!!!  I think that is manageable.  So that's my update for you :)

How is Liam?  Getting on track with school?  I hope he's doing well.  Well it's pretty late in the night here, so I am off to see if I can catch a few more zzzzzs.  Later!

Farrah
11/16/10 Fulkerson TTT, chondroplasty, LR (Left Knee)
11/17/09 SCS re-implant
7/29/09 I&D
5/7/09 SCS removal b/c of MRSA
12/15/08 & 2/6/09 SCS Revision
10/30/08 Spinal Cord Stimulator Implantation
6/27/08 diagnosed with RSD
1/8/08 Fulkerson TTT, chondroplasty, LR (Right Knee)

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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #137 on: March 15, 2009, 05:14:10 PM »
Hi Adrienne!  ;D

That's awesome about work!!! Ditto Farrah...money is a great thing to be making. Good for you!!  ;D I've recently applied for a teaching position in a medical assisting program. Nurses are used as instructors and it would finally be something doable in my field of work, too! Hubby just received a permanent lay off letter so, he's looking for a new job, too. My house is for sale now and if it goes, that would be a HUGE $$$ relief once a month! The housing market is very slow here right now.

So, lefty knee is officially one yr post-fracture. Can you pretty much stand/walk with minimal pain yet? You've been one tough cookie this past year and you deserve a break! Yup! Robot knees...I totally get it, mine's just like that. The bone pain is gone...just sore back behind the kneecap and still some pain on the medial side/tibial region. Overall, it's coming along ok, though. Is your flexion/extension still moving any more? I honestly don't know if that one-year time frame is the maximum of what we're going to end up with, though. Patella fractures only represent about 1% of all fractures. Not alot of folks to research on there, ya know? It seems to be such a slow track to progression that we could continue for a long, long while! I hope so!  ;D Running, squatting, kneeling just might come back some day...you never know!

Hey! Hee-hee...I tried to ditch my crutches yesterday. Not fun! Man, did that ever smart but good. It feels like the quads are going to collapse with every turtle step. They literally buckle on me. I see sawbones on Thurs. the 19th so, I'm hoping he cuts me loose from them. I NEED to start moving toward walking normally again, too. This newly bionic knee needs to start behaving like one...LOL!

So, the heat of summer should be starting to wear down for you guys right now, isn't it? Maybe that will help your sleep. 5 hours a night...probably what I'm getting, too. No wonder you're so whipped out tired, aye? I know I am. Hope you can stay awake at work!!! Take care and it was great to hear from you!! TTYL...

Heather  ;D
5/07 Sev. comminuted,displaced L patella fx,ORIF,brace,crutches
7/07 PT
9/07 Hardware removal,MUA,crutches,PT
5/08 J brace,patellofemoral arthritis,PT
12/08 Appt w/ patella specialist: L-TTT,LR PFJR,scope,scar tissue debridement-1/26/09
8/09-RSD,PT
2/10-TTT screws removed,scar tissue debridement

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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #138 on: March 15, 2009, 10:49:03 PM »
Hey Ladies,

Adrienne,

Sorry haven't posted in awhile, but just wanted to let you know I was thinking about you.  So glad you're back at work and are getting used to a routine.  Hopefully you're not in too much pain.  The house sounds like it's coming along great.  I am so happy that you are feeling better.  How is everything with Liam?

Heather,

How are you?  From reading you thread, it sounds like you're really coming along and progressing really well.  Are you still having the strange feelings in your knee you told me about on the phone awhile ago?  Have you been driving again?  I was surprised to see that you are selling your house.  Are you going to stay up north or is GA still your plan?  Maybe since you'll be much closer we could meet halfway or something, just a thought...

Hope everyone's doing well.

Take care,
Joni
1989 Lateral Release, debridement, and arthroscopic surgery - lk
1996 TTT, Elmslie-trillat procedure, lateral release and debridement - lk
1997 Debridement and hardware removal - lk
2006 Lateral Release, 2 meniscus tears repaired, & acl repair - lk
2008 Sev Patella Effusion - rt knee

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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #139 on: March 16, 2009, 07:38:42 PM »
Hello Heather and Joni,

Left knee:  It'll be the one that gives me the most trouble forever!  The weather is getting colder and the knee is responding by freezing up.  When I walk, well I must look a sight.  I'm on a diet, trying to ditch the weight I've put on being a tortoise for the last year.  That can only be good for the knees, less of a burden.

Heather, I still have my crutches in the car and if I'm going to do alot of walking or there is a crowd, I take one, more for protection really.  I do walk around work without them though, so nice to have 2 hands again.

Liam is good, he's going to Langkowi (tropical paradise island off Thailand) for 2 weeks with the GF and her parents.  It sounds like a dream come true but really it's just part of their ongoing nightmare poor sods.  Their 19 yo son was killed in an accident, if you can call it that, about a month ago.  He was run over, the police believe it was intentional, so their's an investigation underway.  He was killed on his street, with his house in view at 5am.  Chantal was going to school and was the first family member to come on the scence.  The police were already there.  I saw it on the news and knew it was him before they'd released the name.  It's just so so sad and breaks your heart to see such pain.  So, they're running away on holidays in a futile attempt to make it better.

Liam is doing well, knocked him for a six as all the warnings and worries I had came home to roost and he certainly didn't need to hear the "I told you so's" but he got the wake up call loud and clear and now thinks I'm less of a freak for worrying about him.

I'm up to working 6 1/2 hours a day, 5 days a week.  If I do much walking on the week-end, I pay for it for the whole next week.  Joni, I sure hope the lefty isn't at it's maximum a year out, it's not strong although I have really good flex and ROM. The right is almost normal just alittle weaker but still robotic and yucky, not pain just not right.  Now, i just ignore whatever hissy fit the knees are having and just do whatever I can as best as I can.

Late for work...GTG.

Stay safe.

Adrienne
Feb 08 Fractured left patella
Jul 08 Released 115 degrees ROM
17/10/08 Dislocated & fractured right patella
2/12 45 deg
6/12 Drove car
16/12 92 deg
21/1 105 deg discharged from PT

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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2009, 02:56:46 AM »
well hello gang! thought Id pipe in on how things r 2 years from injury:

I still cant squat....ummm even a mini squat is a challenge. ::)  so I still do the old" bend, swing n swipe " move if I need to pick something up. :P

I cant kneel for long and usually put the leg straight out instead of kneeling ...feels too prickly to stand. makes cleaning a tub a real treat! :)

I still cant push off stairs with my left leg..I have to push off with the good one and step up with the bad ...like a toddler would. ;)....

I still waddle a bit from side to side esp when the leg gets tired.

it has started hurting more recently than before...the medial side started hurting...never has done that... behind the knee hurts quite a bit, and under the knee..off to the left  a bit there is a  puffy area that gets prickly pains in it alot.
jeepers!

there are several small  pea size  " cyst"  or  " nodule"  feeling areas as well a couple of bigger harder knots.Im guessing scar tissue ???

the right knee has a strange large pea size nodule on it that appears to be slightly pointy on the top of the round pea under neath the skin BUT it doesnt feel squishy like the cysty areas on the left knee..its harder..like a strange boney mass.. and the r knee hurts alot now too! I am guessing wear n tear from taking the load for so long. poor thing didnt stand a chance at remaing healthy with all the heavy load it carried for 13 months! It sure gave it a good try though...KUDOS  to the right knee for trying!..

I  have tossed th idea around to go for a check up and mri just to c whats going on in there but Im undecided to go back to my original OS...i fear he would be in " defense " mode as soon as I say " well doc its been 2 yrs and I cant squat..or kneel...or step up and my knee hurts all the time and all over!" he would probably be all defensive and act like " cant be happening, i am the best surgeon ever, you should be fine..what have you done to it?" as he morphs into the arrogant beast we all know they can become :) I dont think its anything he did or didnt do..in fact i think he did a fine job but if I go back with these complaints im afraid he will think i think its his fault.

OR do I just go to a new OS or my general phys with my complaints...maybe their arrogant beast would be more like " well I will be the one to fix you..ta da!" I dunno what to do...keep tuffin it out for now or cave in and get a check up...its been since feb 2008 when i was cleared after my hardware removal..never went back cuz by the time I healed from my tibia crack i was out of insurance...go figure! BUt I have new ins now.  thats good news!

ANy  other good news????? well I have lost about 20 lbs trying to help all of my bones out some.  I am in a size I havent been in since 2002 !
I can walk a good 2 miles now...but it hurts with every step like the dickens sometimes!!! yikes!

I do have days when I barely limp at all..in fact unless you look closely you cant hardly see the limp.

Im walking! I can shop! I can exercise again!...did I mention walking? :) love that I can do that again so I try hard not to complain about the other stuff..I didnt mean to sound negative just giving an honest account of where I stand after nearly 2 years...well it will be  two years in may so i am 2 months shy of that I guess. ANd I wont miss this summer. I will actually get to enjoy the summer since I can walk about on my own...oh man if this current situation gets worse... i will be sooooo upset I.

 Ive been keeping up on your posts and thought Id post about my own current condition..sure am glad to hear yall r doing better with your different circumstances it sound like theres plenty of good news floating around. keep up all the hard work towards recovery!  :D
 Im gonna go ice the knee...Im gonna try to go back to basics n c if that helps.
keep pushing forward! TTYL

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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2009, 12:39:08 PM »
Hi Adrienne!  ;D

OMG!!! That's terrible what happened to Liam's GF's brother...what a nightmare!!!  :o I cannot imagine what grief his family must be going through. He and Liam were pretty close, too? That's the same kid that wanted to discuss some sort of problems with Liam versus his parents, wasn't it? I hope the investigation leads police to finding out what happened...strange that he was outside so early in the morning (if there was no reason to be.) In the midst of this horrible tragedy, I do hope Liam understands now what his mom worries about. Mine think they're invincible, too. ARGH...gives me gray hair!  :(

Keeping a single crutch handy is a smart idea. I should have done the same thing before I had this surgery. Remember all that complaining I did while trying to shop for Christmas? It would've saved me some grief, aye? Well, now I know what to do later on...thanks for the great idea!  ;) I am wholeheartedly hoping that this surgery fixes things for good and I won't need to do that, though. Don't give up hope, ok? My previous OS said that increasing quad strength "may" reduce that pain. It'll probably take quite a while but, it sounds like you have a good possibility to improve.  ;D Unfortunately, I fell into that 1% (or some small percentage) of people who had damaged their knee so badly that nothing besides a partial replacement would fix it...it was a MESS! Such an immediate reduction in bone pain is AMAZING, though!  ;D

Ewww! I'm sorry about the cold weather, that's exactly what I've been enduring. It sucks!!! If you have something like a neoprene sleeve to keep it warmer, it should make that cold a little less harsh. I also went back to wearing a long wool coat (past the knees). The cold even cramped up these jellied muscles of mine. Cover up and stay warm, ok? Impatiently waiting for Spring to arrive now. Even the hottest of hot days is more tolerable than cold knees. Ahhhh!!!

Hi Joni! I sent ya a PM ok?  ;D

Gigi~

Long time, no chat!!! I can't believe we broke our knees at the same time and I've already had a partial + a whole lot more. Sounds like Arthur may be picking on you, too. My diagnosis was "Severe patellofemoral arthritis due to trauma" and it was only going to get worse. I think atleast "some" cartilage damage would always happen with patella fractures and Arthur pursues. Might be a good idea to have it checked out just to see where things are right now. YAY! For the insurance, too!  ;D

If you do decide to see your OS, I surely hope he doesn't opt that attitude of "I fixed it, it has to be ok". In reality, he probably did quite a nice job on the ORIF but, there are other parts to consider (scar tissue, arthritis, maltracking, misaligned patella) just to name a few "common" things that can concur with this injury. If it's affecting your lifestyle to the point of causing daily pain and disability, it might be time to go now.  ;) It DEFINITELY was with me, too. Heck! Maybe a good shot of steroid just might make ya feel better for a while, ya never know~ Wish ya the best!!  ;D

Take care and chat with you later...
Heather  :)


5/07 Sev. comminuted,displaced L patella fx,ORIF,brace,crutches
7/07 PT
9/07 Hardware removal,MUA,crutches,PT
5/08 J brace,patellofemoral arthritis,PT
12/08 Appt w/ patella specialist: L-TTT,LR PFJR,scope,scar tissue debridement-1/26/09
8/09-RSD,PT
2/10-TTT screws removed,scar tissue debridement

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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #142 on: March 30, 2009, 11:20:51 PM »
Hi Adrianne!
                  My goodness where are you?  I hope you are ok.



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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #143 on: April 01, 2009, 07:46:22 PM »
Hello Everyone.
I haven't fallen off the face of the Earth, although you'd be forgiven for thinking I have. 

Crazy times....Liam is off to Langkawi and Singapore with the GF and her parents, he'll be away for 2 weeks.

Work are sending me for physical assessments and have just decided they'll through a psychological one in for good measure, so I've been proked and prodded within and inch of my life. I'm not sure what they're up to and that makes me nervous. 

The knees are much the same, plod along and you're ok, push too hard and it all goes horribly pear shaped.  Just can't see them getting any better and that's a shame because there's still so much I can't do, but I'm functional and find ways around the "can't".

I'm working full time now, sleeping about 4-5 hours a night, getting sick of that but won't be taking any pills.  Aside from all that stuff, I'm good, happy in my little house and trying not to let the lack of job security get me down.  Seems hearetless to bring me back to work and then invalid me out, so I'm hoping that's not what they're up to.

Hope you're all limping along ok.

Adrienne
Feb 08 Fractured left patella
Jul 08 Released 115 degrees ROM
17/10/08 Dislocated & fractured right patella
2/12 45 deg
6/12 Drove car
16/12 92 deg
21/1 105 deg discharged from PT

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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #144 on: April 01, 2009, 09:56:02 PM »
Hey Adrianne,
                     I am so happy your ok!  We missed you!  Gosh I hope your work isn't up to something, try not to worry so much, maybe they have to for liability reasons????   Who knows??   I stopped by my work today to drop off another doc note, and I saw one of my bosses, she said are you sure you will be able to do your job again?  I was so nervous for a bit, and said do I still have a job?  She said yes, but what about the big dogs you have to work with, what if they take you down?  I said thats why I will be back when I am strong enough.  Being a vet tech I need my knees, and it scares me that I won't be ready for a long time.  I have a feeling they may do the same to me, like see there doc's and maybe a physcological visit too.  It is such a traumatic thing we endure.  I hope your ok on 4-5 hrs of sleep!  My goodness please take care of yourself!  I am so happy you came back on.....I am sure alot of others will be happy too!  I hope Liam is doing ok, I am sure he will have plenty of stories when he comes home!  I had a doc appt today, my RSD is mostly bugging me in my foot, my leg is great.  So they upped my meds so we will see.  I left an update on my page.  Ok....time to prepare dinner, Kevin is staying home tonight so we are making dinner together, it will be nice! 

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Re: fatcats6 2nd patella fracture + dislocation
« Reply #145 on: April 07, 2009, 06:14:19 AM »
Hi Adrienne, so sorry I haven't been around much.  Not sure if you have read any of my diary, but been going through a lot of medical crap lately!  In a nut shell, I have an infection in my back from the last SCS surgery in February.  I am on daily antibiotic treatments to try to fight it off, but it may not work and cause the SCS to come out :(  It has finally started helping a lot!  So it's all bad news around here.  The financial burden of it all sometimes is the worst of it!  I am sure you understand all my frustrations! 

I am still job searching and trying to step it up now and again just to see if something pops up.  Tomorrow (Tuesday), I have a phone interview with an administrative job at my husband's company.  It's a great company with great benefits and would allow time for doctors appts and such.  So it's a great opportunity if it arises!  Their interview process sometimes can take a while to get up the ladder to the big decision makers.  I just want a job!!!!  One I can handle with my physical limitations! 

So sorry for Liam's GF's brother!  It couldn't be a more sad story!  How is Liam getting through it?  Did he know him well?  Is he being very supportive of his GF's needs of mourning?  That's a big responsibility for Liam right now!  How's his driving coming along?  and school?  I hope he is living some type of normal teenage life for his age!  Let him know that all the KG friends you have are thinking about him and his girlfriend's family and their loss! 

Great job on your long work days!!!  Sorry your office seems to have something up their sleeves and sending you to tons of MD appts!  Not fun at all no matter the reason!  Maybe they want to promote you and want to make sure you can physically and mentally handle it first!  :)  That's the positive thought!  Just keep working hard and doing well with what you do and hopefully they will not have a choice but to keep you forever or until your knees fall off....whichever comes first  ;) 

Well, take care of yourself Adrienne!!!!!  Try to ice when you have a long work day that causes added knee pain!

Farrah
11/16/10 Fulkerson TTT, chondroplasty, LR (Left Knee)
11/17/09 SCS re-implant
7/29/09 I&D
5/7/09 SCS removal b/c of MRSA
12/15/08 & 2/6/09 SCS Revision
10/30/08 Spinal Cord Stimulator Implantation
6/27/08 diagnosed with RSD
1/8/08 Fulkerson TTT, chondroplasty, LR (Right Knee)















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