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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2007, 02:15:06 PM »
hi friendsfan,
please please go for a second opinion!!!

and bring someone with you to the appointment - i always get my boyfriend to come with me - he doesnt even say anything much but its more intimidating for the surgeon to have to address 2 people and less intimidating for you to have someone supportive there with you.

also get your PT to write a report explaining what they think.
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2007, 12:06:23 PM »
heres the latest ive just got back from hydrotherapy and my PT is totally stumped as to what to do now, she really doesnt know how to deal with it..ive no problem with her and i know she is very competent.. im upset now coz if she doesnt know where to go from here how the hell i am going to get better
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2007, 12:23:11 PM »
HI AS I MENTIONED BEFORE AND TANYAP AND LINDS,YOU NEED THAT SECOND OPINION.
YOUR PT MIGHT BE COMPETENT BUT THE OS DEFINATLEY ISN'T!
IF YOU WANT YOUR KNEES SORTING YOU NEED TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE!
SORRY IF I SOUND BLUNT BUT I DON'T SEE THINGS IMPROVING WHILE YOU ARE UNDER THIS OS!
i had a motorcycle accident-landed on right knee!(mar 05)
...arthroscopy - 4th feb 06.
...VMO Advancement,LR+JMedial reefing - 24th jan 07.
...28 feb 07 i fell down 14 stairs.....more pain and stress!
...now at PT working on ROM and strenghening

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2007, 12:27:39 PM »
see a new OS. dont just sit back wondering if things are going to improve or what should you do. you are not an OS - you cant know how to fix it. and either can PT - PT can only help you strengthen muscles. if theres a mechanical problem only an OS can fix it.

OS has to be able to give you a reason why you have no ROM. its just not good enough to say that there is nothing wrong when clearly there is!!
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2007, 12:48:58 PM »
i have just had a call fro hospital asking meto attend a mri scan on 23rd this month....how do i get another OS?
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2007, 01:54:23 PM »
ask your GP or local doc to refer you to someone else - explain the problems you are having and that you are not comfortable with your current OS and get your GP to refer you to a new one, cancel the appointment with the current one and tell the new ones secretary to get the MRI results from the hospital.

If you need any of the medical records that the current one has ring his secretary and ask for them to be forwarded to you.

Alternatively you can see you current OS and tell him you want a second opinion and ask him to refer you to someone else.

Where are you friendsfan - UK or the states?
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2007, 01:58:12 PM »
uk.. i think this mri is urgent as ive only gotta wait 11 days..i hope they find something.... what would you do personally wait for mri results or just switch OS?
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2007, 02:54:33 PM »
when is your next OS appointment?

And what way do they do MRI results where you are (where i am they send the results to the OS who ordered the MRI)?
If they give them to you then just see a new OS with the MRI results.

how do you feel about it yourself? you dont seem fully sold on getting a new OS - is it a lot of hassle to do it or do you feel one is as good as another? or are you just confused about it all!!! (like me a lot of the time :)
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2007, 05:19:38 PM »
ive just seem to have lost all confidence in the medical proffesion (even though i work for them) its not too much hassle just confusing and the lack of faith thing... i didnt get another OS appointment and i dont know what will happen wtih the results
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2007, 09:40:49 AM »
dont lose hope or faith. its important to persevere with this.
just because you have had a bad experience with one OS dont let that colour your view of all OS's - you could find a new one who is GREAT. try to remember that surgeons prefer to deal with unconscious people - a lot of them dont have great people skills. It IS confusing but you need to battle on to discover whats wrong and find the pathway to fix it.
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2007, 10:57:08 AM »
i just really feel like giving up, ive been 18 week without any ROM and just had enough.... my physio said if im left much longer then there will be irreversable damage... 
« Last Edit: July 11, 2007, 11:25:30 AM by friendsfan »
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2007, 01:09:47 PM »
Hi Friendsfan,

I know what you are going through right now. Felt exactly like that about 9 years ago. I've found writing in a diary to be very helpful.

My physio at the time had given up on me and said that my knee surgeon couldn't do anything for me. One of my Mum's friends was a physio and said I needed to go back to my knee surgeon as he was the one that did the initial operation. I went back to him and he referred me to one of his colleagues for a second opinion. It helped him see the woods from the trees as I'd already been seeing him for about 4 years at that time. I changed physios before my operation to get my knee much stronger and made a real difference. My physio recognised that I had a bad problem with recurrent instability and agreed with my surgeon that the only thing to do was operate.

Like the others have said I would get another opinion ASAP. Make sure the surgeon you sees specialises in knees, particularly patella problems.

Whereabouts are you based in the UK ? I went to a great sports medicine clinic in London when I lived there for a couple of years. They have links to some of the best OSs in the country. Their website is www.puresportsmed.com and phone number is 0870 2000 878. At the time I was really struggling financially with all my medical bills so they reduced my sports physicians' consultation fees. I also believe you can see sports physicians/doctors on the NHS now. They would have a much better understanding of your problem and be able to refer you to someone good.

At present I have medial instability of my left patella and am waiting to see my knee surgeon for the next steps.

Chin up ! It will only get better.  :)
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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2007, 11:38:59 AM »
ive made a appointment for later today for a private consultation with a physio.... im hoping that a new set of eyes will reveal something
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2007, 12:29:22 PM »
i know this is going to sound dumb.. but what do you mean by specialists? do u mean OS?
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2007, 12:39:46 PM »
i agree with shortybearclaire - i dont know if a new physio is going to bring anything new to the table for you.

a specialist is an OS who specialises in knees.

a new physio is still going to only be able to help your muscles - but if the joint doesnt move due to a mechanical problem a physio will not be able to fix that.
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app















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