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Offline shortyclairebear

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2007, 08:30:28 PM »
hi sorry to sound like a broken record but have you not tried to get that second opinion yet?
i can understand you feeling frustrted but you have to try and help yourself too.
you need the opinion of a specialist,the one you have now is getting you nowhere and as me and others on this thread have advised you a PT can not help to sort out what is happening inside your knee,only someone who specialises in knees can do that.
i had a motorcycle accident-landed on right knee!(mar 05)
...arthroscopy - 4th feb 06.
...VMO Advancement,LR+JMedial reefing - 24th jan 07.
...28 feb 07 i fell down 14 stairs.....more pain and stress!
...now at PT working on ROM and strenghening

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #61 on: July 18, 2007, 08:40:44 PM »
im just trying to get the money together to see a private OS but this is just in the meantime, what can i do whilst waiting??  i went to GP last week he is referring me to another OS but it could be a long wait..its just what will come first the money or the nhs OS
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2007, 09:53:34 AM »
hi,
well youre having problems with your hip because youre not using your leg properly - knee problems spread their tentacles to the next joints along, i too get a sore hip from not using my knee properly.
There is really very little you can do until you get a second opinion - your physio is doing as much as they can under the circumstances but no amount of physio will help with a mechanical problem - if thats what you have.
youre GP isnt going to be able to do anything for you.

how long is this going on friendsfan?
you might speak to your physio about trying to keep good muscle tone in the areas that are also being affected - there may be hip exercises that you can do. Its worth asking.
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2007, 09:57:44 AM »
its been 19.5 weeks now with my knee stuck in the same position. i really wanna help myself but i just dont know who to turn to whilst im waiting for a a second opinion
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2007, 10:06:47 AM »
i hear ya! its very frustrating.
before i had knee problems i thought if something went wrong with the body you got taken into hospital and looked at and set on the right path in short order.
now i know that you can be left weeks and months trying to cope with problems before you get to see anyone.
i really dont know if you CAN do much to help yourself.

Just to clarify - youre knee is stuck in one position right? - is it painful to try and move it or is it just immobile?
What happens if you try and move it more yourself?
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2007, 10:15:29 AM »
currently im estimating its stuck at about 20 degree my toes touch the floor but my heel doesnt......at physio they work on me for 45 mins and get a extra 10 degree, but i soon loose this...they really have to manipulate it to that 10 degree... when i try to bend it myself it just wont budge no matter how i try...
so in answer to your questions.. id say yes it is stuck in one postion, its painful to try and move it but i can breathe through that and take painkillers so its not really  a pain issue     
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2007, 11:25:24 AM »
what does it 'feel' like to you?
does it feel like something is preventing the joint from bending or does it feel like you dont have the strength to bend it?
And when they get the extra 10 degrees out of it - how does it feel after that - does it hurt, or swell up?
Im asking you these things because for ages and ages recently I couldnt get my knee to bend into a kneeling position - it just hurt too much, felt like I was stretching things and it would be so sore afterwards, but I just kept doing it, bit by bit it stopped feeling like i was 'stretching' - but it didnt feel like there was anything preventing it from bending except pain.

does your knee itself hurt you a lot - just sitting around, is it aching?
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2007, 01:37:25 PM »
hiya, yes it does ache just while im sat down...its actually both i know i havent got the strength there for me to move it, but at the same time it feels like something on the outer side of the kneecap restricting movement
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2007, 03:37:07 PM »
yes of course - you wont have strength after 19.5 weeks of not using the muscles.

can you tighten your quads (despite not being able to move your knee?)

1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2007, 04:23:23 PM »
I can just about tighten my quads not much but i can do it
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2007, 04:26:10 PM »
what does your physio say about your muscles - does she say that they are wasting?
and if so what can she get you to do to address that?
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2007, 08:29:16 PM »
she says my muscles are wasting..she has me doing home exercise which i do religiously..
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2007, 09:24:24 AM »
i think thats probably all you can do until you get a second opinion.

1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2007, 10:48:19 AM »
i went again yesteray to see the private physiotherapist..waste of time now she is seriously concerned about my knee but she wont see me again until the surgeon has done further investigations as she feels she cant do anything.........so its all down to A OS again now
5-3-07 injured knee-no ROM
2-5-07 LK scope + MUA
26-6-08-LK TTT and scope
10-12-08-LK MUA
12-6-09-RK scope
26-8-09 RK TTT

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Re: just back from physio
« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2007, 11:17:11 AM »
make the appointment for a private OS, you wont have to pay until the appointment comes up, but the longer you wait to make the appointment the longer before you see someone.
1986 - recurrent dislocations of right patella began
1988 - Modified Hauser Procedure
1991 - dislocations started again
2005 to 2007 - 150 dislocations in 2 years - OUCH!!!
June 2007 - new OS, new physio
Oct 2007 - VMO woke up
Mar 2008 - big quads, still dislocating
Apr 2008 - next OS app