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Offline live2turbo

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I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« on: June 08, 2007, 02:41:10 AM »
HI
I am 36, Femal, 5'9 and in the past 2 years have lost over 50+ pounds. I have never had any knee or joint issues until about 7 months ago. I was doing cardio and sculpting, then a year ago got my certification for Turbo Kick (non contact cardio kickboxing). I only have about 10 more pounds to loose!  yeah!  However, the knee pain and lack of advice and information from the ortho specialist has left me confused. He told me to stop kickboxing, NOT to run anymore (which I started about 4 months ago), and to basically loose weight and take up swimming. He was not very nice about it.  I am on anti inflammatorys, still do low impact cardio and sculpt, but am working out only 3-4 days a week instead of 6.  Still have pain no matter what exercise I do.  OF course my knee's don't hurt while I do the 2 sports I love, running and Turbo.
He also said I have early symptoms of arthritis in both knee's. Is there something I can take to help rebuild the cartlidge? What activities can I do, besides swim and bike. If I bike can I pull my toddler behind me in a trailer?  I don't know if matters or not, but I did have a partial hysterectomy over a year ago.
Any advice will be much appreciated as I feel so alone and don't want to gain back all of the weight I worked so hard to loose.

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Re: I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2007, 02:54:44 AM »
Hey..
Chondromalacia simply means a softening of the cartilage behind the kneecap.  It's kind of a cop out diagnosis, as it's more of a symptom than a diagnosis. I would try for a second opinion, or check with a GOOD physiotherapist on what is actually going on in your knee. Chondro can be caused by many things, change in activty, trama, maltracking, time... all kinds of things, but in and of itself, it's not really a good diagnosis.  IT is a symptom of something more going on and in order to actually address it you must first know the cause.

BIking will be okay, for some and not other's, I haven't been able to pedal a bike for years. I have chondro as a symptom of my malaligned knee joints.  Swimming again is great as long as you don't do like breast stroke where you are stressing the kneecaps. Seriously walking for me is just about the only real exercise my kneecaps agree with, and it has to be on flat level ground. 

Again i'd go after a clearer diagnosis...

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Re: I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2007, 04:53:17 AM »
Congrats on the weight loss.  I too have a somewhat similar story to yours.  The difference being my weight loss came with large amounts of walking and ruining my knees.  Since not being able to walk (like taking a walk, not around the house walking) I've gains 18 of the 81 lbs I'd loss.   This is just depressing.  I walked myself into huge problems.  Do not push your knees, this is the best advise I can offer you.  I am terriable about "working through it" and pay the price.  I'm now awaiting surgery and will certainly listen to the body when its screaming at me!

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Re: I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2007, 04:54:34 AM »
Congrats on the weight loss.  I too have a somewhat similar story to yours.  The difference being my weight loss came with large amounts of walking and ruining my knees.  Since not being able to walk (like taking a walk, not around the house walking) I've gains 18 of the 81 lbs I'd loss.   This is just depressing.  I walked myself into huge problems.  Do not push your knees, this is the best advise I can offer you.  I am terriable about "working through it" and pay the price.  I'm now awaiting surgery and will certainly listen to the body when its screaming at me!

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Re: I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2007, 04:21:03 PM »
Eagle mom and Linds! Thanks for the info!  I had requested a second opinion from my primary doc after leaving the rude ortho specialist. He said he felt that the specialists report was good and give it 2-3 months, if not better than he would send me to a sports doctor. It all is so frustrating, going from being over weight, a couch potato and then being very active, instructing students and training for races, to now only be able "to swim, cycle or walk".  Thed did to an x-ray, which showed some premature arthritis in the one knee, but asked about other tests, such as MRI's and was told it was not necessary.
I am just trying to find something that I can do to stay active and not take a million steps backwards and gain back the weight. Still wanting to run competivly, but know that I have to take it easy.
What does chrondomalacia of the patella mean anyway?
Take care and thanks again for your information.

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Re: I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2007, 08:04:10 PM »
well you fall into the typical sports med patient..you want to heal but you dont want to stop playing.  this makes the healing process a bit more challanging, but not impossible.  how long have your knees been hurting?  Prior to losing weight, how much did you weigh.  unfortunately i see this a lot with people who have been somewhat obese, start exercises and then develop overuse injuries.  the reality is that you may have to cut back on activities that cause pain and start a PT program to regain balance of the patella articulation.  chrondomalacia can become severe and require surgical correction.  the most common cause it from mistracking of the patella which may be caused by tight/imbalanced quads or even a high patella. I would rec you take it easy and start PT as soon as possible.
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Re: I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2007, 08:24:45 PM »
I read your post.  I have had chrondromalacia for years (since I was about 12, sledding accident - long story).  I had an injury that caused the kneecap to become malaligned.  All the limping and muscle imbalace caused the other kneecap to become malaligned. 

It's painful sometimes and I have had 4 surgeries 2 for "cleaning" and 2 later releases to straighten out my kneecaps.  I was a runner in High School and whenever I had a flare, I had to back off and find things that didn't make my knees scream.

What does chrondomalacia of the patella mean anyway?

To answer your question, these are fancy words that mean that the cartilage is softened (chrondromalacia) behind the kneecap (patella).  Doesn't really say much by itself.  I got mine because my kneecaps were not tracking correctly.

Hope this helped. 
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Re: I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 05:22:17 AM »
I have run the gammut of diagnosis names for my knees...let's see... it's been called runner's knee, chondromalacia, osgood-schlatters, patello-femoral syndrome, etc... I would present the same problems, and they would present a new name. Now, however, I just get to say that I am post-surgical from Fulkerson Osteotomies.  I rarely say any of the names they ever called it, except for repetitive dislocation of the patella... the rest of them... well, I'd have fun sorting them out.  There's been a lot of names over 18 years of this.  Like the others said, the chondromalacia is usually a symptom of another problem.  Get a second opinion, and (I should practice what I'm about to preach) really work at your doctor's recommendations if he truly believes it will be beneficial.

Good luck!
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Re: I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 01:22:43 AM »
Hi
thanks for replying to my post.
I weighed 215, am down to 165, 5'9, large frame. My knee's have been hurting steadily for about 7-9 months, so they started before I took up running.  I asked for a second opinion and the doc said to give this 60-90 days to see if my symptoms improve!  To take up swimming, biking and walking.  Its very frustrating. I think I am about 45 days into their regimen. They haven't even suggested any sort of PT.  Its very frustrating. I have found that if I don't get enough movement, they hurt, if I do too much they get stiff and really hurt!  Its a matter of trying to find a happy medium . Not my forte>
Thanks to all of you for your advice. I so appreciate it!

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Re: I was just diagnosed with Chrondomalacia and am confused!
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 04:47:13 PM »
Glad to help in any way.  It's so true about the middle ground.  I either do to llittle or too much.  Someday maybe I'll find the right amount.  Hope it starts feeling better soon.

Milly
'83 lt knee scope
'88 lt knee LR
'89 rt knee LR (6 mos. after left)
'05 rt knee scope (clean up)
7/5/07 - scope, LR left, right clean
3/19/08 - LR failed, Supartz failed
http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=47974.0
8/21/08 - new OS apt
8/5/09 - TTT, LR, PFJR sched.















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