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OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« on: May 28, 2007, 07:06:28 PM »
I HAVE OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT ATTACK AT THE SAME TIME ON MY RIGHT KNEE RIGHT AFTER GOUT ON MY RIGHT FOOT GOT HEALED AND I'VE BEEN IN PAIN FOR 3 MONTHS STRAIGHT AND MY STUPID DOCTOR HAVE STOPPED GIVING ME THE PAIN MEDICINE AND I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH HELL FOR 3 WEEKS AND I EVEN CRIED MANY TIMES BECAUSE I CAN'T HANDLE THE PAIN AND STIFFNESS IN THE KNEE AND I CUSSED AT EVERYBODY IN THE FAMILY FOR NO REASON BECAUSE OF THE EXCURATING PAIN THAT WILL NOT STOP. I TOLD MY DOCTOR THAT THE PAIN ISN'T HIS AND HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW I FEEL AND NO MATTER THAT HE IS THE DOCTOR, HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW PAINFUL IT IS UNLESS HE HAS IT BUT HE CAN GET THE PAIN MED ANYTIMES HE WANTS TO BECAUSE HE'S THE DOCTOR SO HE'LL NEVER EXPERIENCE THE EXCURATING PAIN LIKE I DO EVERYDAY. I HATE TO GO TO THE STREET TO GET THE PAIN MED BECAUSE IT'S SO EXPENSIVE BUT THERE IS NO OTHER WAY UNLESS MY DOCTOR HELPS ME. FINALLY MY WIFE TOOK ME TO ASHEVILLE'S MEMORIAL MISSION ER YESTERDAY MORNING AND I STAYED THERE FOR 12 HOURS AND 6 SHOTS OF MORPHINES TO CONTROL MY PAIN AND BLOOD PRESSURE AND I TOLD 'EM THAT MORPHINE DOESN'T REALLY HELP ME WITH THE PAIN BUT DOES KEEP MY BLOOD PRESSURE DOWN AND FINALLY THEY GAVE ME THE RIGHT PAIN MED AND THAT IS PERCOCET. THAT IS WHAT THE DOC DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE ME BECAUSE HE'S WORRIED ABOUT ADDICTION AND I TOLD HIM THAT I DON'T GIVE CHIT ABOUT THE ADDICTION AS LONG AS THE PAIN IS GONE. I EVEN TOLD HIM THAT CANCER PEEPS GET GOOD PAIN MEDS EVERYDAY EVEN THOUGHT THEY HAVE GOOD CHANCE THEY WILL BEAT THE CANCER AND THEY DOESN'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE ADDICTION BUT FOR PEEPS WITH THE PAINFUL GOUT AND OSTEOARTHRIST, ALL THEY WORRY ABOUT IS THE ADDICTION AND NOT THE PAIN. THAT IS WHAT PISSED ME OFF.

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE STREET, I WOULD'VE BLEW MY BRIAN OUT LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE I CAN'T TOLERATE THAT KIND OF PAIN I'M IN NOW. WHY ARE 'EM DOCTORS SUCH AN AZZHOLE? THEY ARE SUCH AN IGNORANTS!!!! THERE SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINST 'EM DOCS FOR REFUSE TO GIVE THE PAIN MEDS TO PEEPS WITH GOUT AND OSTEOARTHRIST OR ANY DIFFERENT TYPE OF ARTHRIST PAIN PROBLEMS! THE DOCTOR JOB IS TO HELP PEEPS WITH THEIR PAIN PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT THE ADDICTION. NO WONDER THERE IS HIGH PERCENT OF PEEPS THAT DIED OF HEART FAILURE BECAUSE OF PAIN THEY WENT THROUGH FOR LONG TIME.
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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2007, 09:21:38 PM »
What doc didn't want to give you more meds..your GP or OS ?
If this is your GP get another one. If that is your OS..these don't always continue prescribe meds for a long time..only in general around a surgery or a treatment.
For how long have you used percocet ?
As long as you have a pain that require painmeds to be able somehow live a dialy life you don't need to worry about addiction.
And if the meds are the ones that can give you addiction you need to slowly get them down and out of your body when you don't need them more and to be able do that you might need help to plan that.
I have been there myself, noone believed the pain I were in.
One time when I was at ortho unit as inpatient I had to call the ER as the nurse wouldn't give me enough painmeds.
She said that a shot I got at 4PM still were working at 10PM..so after being in awful pain the ER OS came up to me right after 11.30PM and gave me what I needed. She got fired.
Surgery 6 times left knee torn meniscus, RSDS,chondromalacia, nervdamage cause constant nervpain,chronic inflamm.
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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007, 11:04:58 PM »
HELLO NETTAN, I'VE HAD IT FOR 7 YEARS AND USUALLY GET PAIN MEDS FROM GP WHEN OSTEOARTHRIST OR GOUT ATTACK OCCURS BUT MY JOB AS CARPENTER AND SIDING INSTALLER FOR 15 YEARS, I USED LADDERS AND STAIRS ALOT CARRYING HEAVY MATERIALS BACK AND FORTH THEREFORE CAUSED BOTH KNEES SWELLING AND PAIN ALMOST CONSTANTLY AND MISSED ALOT OF WORK BECAUSE OF KNEES "LOCK-UP".  IT GOT WORSE AS I GET OLDER (I'M 40 YRS OLD NOW) AND HAVE HAD LEFT KNEE SURGERY SEVERAL YRS AGO BUT STILL NO HELP AT ALL. IT GOT WORSE DURING THE WINTER TIME THEN 3 YEARS AGO I GOT GOUT IN MY RIGHT FOOT AND I CAN'T BARELY MOVE 1/8 OF AN INCH. EVEN A BED SHEET WILL HURT MY FOOT AND THROBBING PAIN IS WHAT DRIVE ME NUT YET MY GP STILL AFRAID TO GIVE ME MORE PAIN MED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT ME TO GET ADDICTED TO THE PAIN MED BUT I TOLD HIM THAT IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WILL STOP THE EXCURATING PAIN. I AM ALWAYS IN PAIN ALMOST EVERYDAY NOW AND I HAD TO QUIT MY JOB AND GET DISABILITY CHECK BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO FIND A JOB WHO WILL UNDERSTAND MY STITUATION. THE DR GAVE ME MANY DIFFERENT MEDS (CHILOCHINE 20 MG, ALLOPURINOL 300 MG, PREDNISONE 20 MG, INDOMETHACIN 25 MG, PIROXICAM 20 MG, IBUPROFEN 800 MG) AND NONE OF 'EM MEDS HELP AND NOW I HAVE A HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE PROBLEM BECAUSE OF PAIN I'M IN ALMOST EVERYDAY AND IT MAKES ME GET STRESSED OUT EVERYDAY. I TAKE METOPROLOL 50 MG TWICE A DAY TO HELP CONTROL MY HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND NEXIUM 60 MG FOR ACID REFLUEX BECAUSE I TOOK TOO MANY OVER THE COUNTER MEDS LIKE GOODY'S, EXCEDRIN MAX STRENGTH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT TRYING TO STOP THE EXCURATING PAIN AND THAT UPSET ME BECAUSE IF MY DOC HAVE LISTENED TO ME, I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE PROBLEM. I PLAYED ALL SPORTS EXCEPT TENNIS AND GOLF ALL MY LIFE. I HURT MY BOTH KNEES FROM FOOTBALL BECAUSE I WAS A QUARTERBACK WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL AND MOST OF 'EM OPPONENT TEAMS WENT FOR MY KNEES AND I HURT MY RIGHT FOOT PLAYING BASKETBALL. I WAS IN GREAT SHAPE AND I TRAVEL TO MANY DIRT RACE TRACKS IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT STATES ALOT OVER THE SUMMER TIME BUT NOT ANYMORE BECAUSE I CAN'T DRIVE MUCH DUE TO KNEE PAIN. NOW I STAY HOME ALOT AND CAN'T DO MUCH ANYMORE AND IT MAKES ME GET DEPRESSED BUT WHENEVER I GET PERCOCET, I MAKE MOST OF IT WHILE I HAVE IT. I HAVE AN 3 ACRES OF LAND AT HOME AND I MOW THE GRASS WHENEVER I CAN. MY DOC IS MAKING THINGS SO DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HAVE A NORMAL LIFE LIKE I USED TO HAVE ALL SIMPLY BECAUSE OF FEAR OF ADDICTION AND THAT HAVE RUINED MY LIFE. NOW I HAVE TO CRY LIKE A BABY TO GET THE PAIN MED AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO HAS CUREABLE CANCER GET THE PAIN MED NO MATTER WHAT BUT NOT PEOPLE LIKE US WHO HAVE EXCURATING PAIN IN THE JOINTS AND MOST OF TIME IT TAKES MONTHS FOR THE JOINTS TO HEAL.

I FEEL SORRY FOR THAT ER OS WHO GOT FIRED FOR GIVING YOU THE PAIN MED THAT YOU NEEDED. SHE WAS TRYING TO HELP YOU MANAGE THE PAIN. THE PAIN MED ONLY LAST MAYBE 2 TO 4 HRS DEPENDS ON WHAT MG THEY GAVE YOU NOT 6 HRS AND THAT MAKES ME MAD BECAUSE IT'S OUR PAIN NOT THEIR AND THEY DON'T KNOW UNLESS THEY HAVE IT AND THEY CAN TAKE THE PAIN MED WHENEVER THEY WANT TO BECAUSE THEY ARE THE DOCS AND WE AREN'T.

AT THE BEGINNING, THEY GAVE ME VICODIN AND I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE I TOOK 'EM TOO MANY TIME BEFORE I FOUND OUT THAT VICODIN HAS MORE ASPIRIN THAN PAIN MED IN IT SO I REQUESTED A CHANGE IN PAIN MED TO PERCOCET AND IT HELPED BECAUSE I TOOK LESS PILLS THAN I DID WITH VICODIN. I TAKE 4 PERCOCETS A DAY AS DIRECTED FER 2 MONTHS THEN ALL OF SUDDEN THE DOC WILL NOT GIVE ME ANYMORE THIS MONTH AND THE PAIN RETURNS AND I WENT 3 WEEKS WITHOUT PAIN MEDS AND IT WAS THE WORST TIME IN MY LIFE BECAUSE I COULDN'T SLEEP OR EAT OR GET OUT OF THE BED FOR 3 WEEKS STRAIGHT AND I LOST 20 POUNDS SO MY WIFE FINALLY TOOK ME TO ER IN ASHEVILLE YESTERDAY BECAUSE I COULDN'T STOP WAILING LIKE A BABY AND ER DOCS HELPED ME ALOT AND KEPT ME THERE FOR 12 HRS BEFORE RELEASED ME BECAUSE OF HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE HITTING THE ROOF AND DECIDED THAT THE PERCOCET IS THE ONLY WAY OF CONTROL MY EXCURATING PAIN SO THEY GAVE ME ENDOCET 10 MG (30) PLUS ALEVE TWICE DIALY AND WANT ME TO COME BACK IN 10 DAYS TO SEE IF I NEED MORE PAIN MED AND VERY UPSET THAT THE HOSPITAL AT MY HOMETOWN ISN'T HELPING ME ANY AND TOLD ME TO GET A NEW GP AND ORTHO DOC. NOW I FEEL ALOT BETTER THAN I WAS LAST 3 WKS. THROBBING PAIN HAS STOPPED BUT STILL SORE FROM PAIN FOR SO LONG TIME. I FINALLY GET TO EAT TODAY. I USED TO WEIGHT 190 AND I WEIGHT 170 NOW.  BUT IT'S ONLY IN A SHORT RUN. I'M WORRYING ABOUT WILL THEY CONTINUE HELPING ME IN A LONG RUN OR WHAT BECAUSE THERE IS NO CURE FOR THIS PROBLEM I HAVE. I'M PRAYING TO GOOD LORD THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE HELPING ME IN A LONG RUN.

THERON W. OATES, JR
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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2007, 05:55:46 AM »
You should talk with them at your next visit and try get referal to painmanagement doc that can set up a good plan for you in the long run.
After that probably a GP could take over and help you with the prescriptions, that the painmanagement doc and you have agreed about.
That would be the best plan for you. And maybe they can help you find good docs.
This about the ER OS...he didn't get fired. The nurse who didn't give me painmeds got fired. Sorry if my English messed up things.
I sure understand your whole situation as I have been there myself so many times. Nowadays I have good docs that are treating me with respect and understand my pain and what I am going through.
Please keep in touch and let me know how you are doing. If I can help you in any way I will try do that.
Surgery 6 times left knee torn meniscus, RSDS,chondromalacia, nervdamage cause constant nervpain,chronic inflamm.
Spinaldamage wheeler 100%.
Right knee damaged aug-06, use brace surgery 4/9-07.LCL tear.

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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2007, 05:28:11 PM »
Please undo your caps lock key because your posts are too hard to read. It looks like shouting. If you are actually shouting at your doctor then that is probably why you're not getting help. And, as Nettan says, Orthopedics surgeons generally do not handle long term pain management. Also, Percocets are not the usual meds given to people with arthritis. Generally, some kind of anti-inflammatory med is used instead. It also sounds like you have a history of taking too many meds which may make doctors reluctant to prescribe pain meds for you.

In general, people that have chronic pain usually end up with a Pain Management doctor. That is probably the kind of doctor you should see. I've been going to one for three years for chronic pain issues. They have managed my pain quite nicely.

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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007, 10:20:14 PM »
Hello jathib....Please forgive me for using the caps because I thought it would be clear for people to read with the caps. Sorry about it. Is this better now?  :) and I can't shout at my doctor because I'm deaf but I can yell....LOL.....Forgive me. My wife is my interpreter whenever I go see my doctor and she doesn't shout because she knows that if she does, the doctor may not help me and she is the one who told me to try to calm down. She helped me get through the difficult time with the pain. She knows how I feel because she has a crushed right foot from car accident 2 years ago and have 2 plates and 12 screws to hold ankle together and it'll be in her ankle for the rest of her life and only took Vicodin for one month and after that she hasn't had it ever since. She takes Tylenol whenever it hurts.

I use percocet to control the throbbing pain because I have a high blood pressure problem and everytime it throbs, it raises my blood pressure therefore it throbs faster as my heart beats fast like hypernactive (sp) and when it throbs faster, it hurts so badly that I cried because it's so painful and it makes me get sick with high fever and sweating and nausea. Percocet helps slow down the throbbing pain. My doctor told me that I can't take some other kind of medicines because I have problem with acid refluex and I take Nexium 60 mg twice dialy to control it. I still take Allopurinol (anti-inflammatory med) but when it comes to throbbing pain, it doesn't control the throbbing pain so that's why I take percocet to control it. My doctor never mentions me about pain management doctor like you said.

Again, sorry about the caps. ;D
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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2007, 11:43:21 PM »
Much better. Are you taking meds for your high blood pressure. I take a couple kinds of pain meds and my bp is well controlled with other meds.

Have your doctor refer you to a pain management doctor. Mine is a Physical Medicine & Rehab Specialist, aka Physiatrist. That's in the USA. Not sure where you're located. Anyway, handling long term, chronic pain is their specialty.

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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2007, 01:57:43 AM »
Alright ;D

I'm from Canton, NC near Asheville, NC in the mountains of Western NC.

Yes, I'm taking Metoprolol (genetric for Lopressor) 50 mg twice daily for my high blood pressure. I'm sure there are some pain management doctors in Asheville and I'm surely will find me one because I'm getting tired of pain and I'm disappointed in my doctor for not referring me to a pain management doctor.

Thank you jathib and nettan for your help and I appreciate it because I'm getting tired of depends on percocet for my throbbing pain. It means alot to me. God Bless Yall....

Hey nettan, i understand the mix-up about nurse that got fired for not giving you the pain meds, not the ER OS doctor and your English is still fine...... ;D

Keep in touch and let me know how things are with yall and I'll keep in touch with yall and let yall know how things are with me. I'll have a MRI this Wednesday and I'll let yall know how it's going.

Again, thank yall for your help.....I feel alot better now.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2007, 02:09:46 AM by dirtraceguru101 »
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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2007, 02:15:15 AM »
Just out of curiousity, is your GP or a specialist handling any medicines for the gout.  You should be receiving something to get rid of the uric acid before the next flare up.  I had a swollen knuckle that my GP thought was gout, but ultimately ended up being torn ligaments.  The pain was awful.  I used Celebrex and it controlled the swelling and pain. 

I agree with Nettan, you need a pian management referral.  It will help you learn to handle the pain (I hope).  I am like your wife, I used Percocet and Vicodin for a short period of time after both of my surgerys.  Much longer for the broken patella and only a week after the proximal realignment.  Eventually, I will need something for the arthritis.  I have contra indications with medicines because of my asthma medicines.  Ain't life grand sometimes!

I wish you the best.
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7/05/89 - Returned to work
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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2007, 03:57:04 AM »
Hello Kimmyxs...My GP is handling the medicines for the gout and I'm taking Allopurinol to get rid of uric acid but they said that my uric acid is so high that it's going to take awhile to get rid of gout. I've had gout problems for 7 years and everytime I get gout attack on either one of my knees or my right foot, they would extract uric acid out of my knees or a foot that is swollen so they can test to make sure it's a gout and sometimes it's swollen but no uric acid but blood so it's osetoarthrist but right now,  it's both gout and osteoarthrist at the same time. Last March of '06, they extracted a 63 cm of uric acid out of my right knee. and the doctor said that it was way too much!  But the doctor said that if gout attack and osteoarthrist occur the same time, it's gonna be very painful and that is what I have right now and it's gonna take more than one month to heal and my right leg has been locked up for 3 weeks now. They want me to take a MRI this Wednesday 5/30 to see whether it's a gout or a torn cartridge then I have to go back to the doc on June 6th for another check-up and see if I need surgery or not. I've had surgery on my left knee several yrs ago and it's not helping at all....Same result but that was from another doctor at the hospital in my hometown of Haywood County but this time it's in Asheville now. Hopefully they found something that old doctor may have overlooked and 7 yrs of pain is enough! I'm getting tired of living off disability check because we barely make it and we had to ask for help from DSS with food stamps and Medicare from SSDI and that embarassed me because I used to work as carpenter and siding/window installer and electrician for 15 yrs and I made very good paycheck and I used to travel to many different states to watch dirt racing like Southern AllStars Dirt Car or World of Outlaw Super Late Model or Carolina Clash Dirt Series but not anymore. Most of my SSDI check goes to house bills and car insurance and we had to sell our new car and buy a used car to save the money so our 14 yrs old son can get whatever he needs. Life is getting tougher on us now than before.  :(
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Re: OSTEOARTHRIST AND GOUT
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2007, 05:54:07 AM »
A Mri is the beginning of something in right direction.
Be sure that they know about the meds you use so they get good together.
Heck, my docs did give me so mixed with meds, so I developed epilepsy and had that for some years and also allergy against my painmeds.
So the only thing I can use now is morphine and how fun is that.
Please keep in touch.
Surgery 6 times left knee torn meniscus, RSDS,chondromalacia, nervdamage cause constant nervpain,chronic inflamm.
Spinaldamage wheeler 100%.
Right knee damaged aug-06, use brace surgery 4/9-07.LCL tear.















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