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Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« on: July 15, 2002, 12:29:37 AM »
Two links I have been waiting to post to you:

1. Nonoperative management of osteoarthritis of the knee:
http://www.physsportsmed.com/asr/knee/marshall.htm

2. Case reports on the use of viscosupplementation
[KNEEguru - "the kind of joint stuff they inject into the knee joint"]
http://www.physsportsmed.com/asr/knee/cases.htm
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Re: Glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2002, 05:42:28 AM »
At this point I guess I will still take the glucosamine and chondroitin since it looks as though it could help and will only damage my wallet.  Nothing else seems to offer much help at this point.  
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Re: Glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2002, 10:22:05 AM »
I noticed a huge difference in my knee pain when
I started taking glucosamine Sulfate and MSM. I take 2000 mg of the Glucosamine and 3000mg of the MSM.  Like you say it can't hurt but you do have to take enough of it, I found that the lower doses didn't seem to do any good. Perhaps my joints are using it as fast as I'm putting it in?
And one really great thing that has happened since I started taking it-my hair is fantastic-healthy shiney and thick for the first time in my life. ;D
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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2002, 04:16:29 PM »
Another remarkable remedy for our OA, knee and everywhere else can be found at:

www.moducare.com.

builds up the immune system.  i have been on it for 3 months now and it is a good thing too cause i have been so sick otherwise i should be dead.

Denise :) ;D :-*
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2003, 01:29:32 AM »
I am always skeptical about supplements but my dad has been taking a product called SynFlex since August and I have not seen him this happy in years.

The stuff has cut his pain to a third and his range of motion in his knees and shoulders is 100% better.

I don't know if this product will work for all but he got it at
http://www.activexamerica.com/at.cgi/210612/arthritis/

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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2003, 03:06:01 PM »
I have used Glucosmaine sulphate for a number of years, I've not noitced any remarkable difference but that is not to say is doesn't work.
There are a few groups who shouldn't use glucosmaine such as those who have had ACL repairs but I would advocate checking with the pharamacist before you buy.

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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2003, 08:27:47 PM »
Hello, I was kind of surprized to get an e-mail from someone responding to this old post.  :) But I have been using the MSM and the Glucosimine now for another year. I ran out for a while (about a month) and it really, really made a big difference in my pain level.
I do my knee exersises every day (usally before getting out of bed even) and that makes a huge difference too, in fact I walk with much less pain/weakness after exersising. That and my knees are much stronger good thing because my good knee has to take a lot more of the work load.
I also recently joined weightwatchers and have lost a total of 35 lbs and it has also made a huge difference.  Its still there more in the form of a weakness  than a pain-most of the time unless you move just the right way.  :-/  
At least I am able to do much more than before, the only thing I find I cannot do or I pay for it dearly is stand on concrete-the knees and feet ache after this for days, no more standing jobs for me.  ;)
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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2003, 11:52:06 PM »
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There are a few groups who shouldn't use glucosmaine such as those who have had ACL repairs but I would advocate checking with the pharamacist before you buy.

Iona


I've had ACL reconstruction (several years ago) and my two OS's both said that while they couldn't guarantee Glucosamine would help, it definitely wouldn't hurt and might help my knee.   Where have you heard the info to the contrary?
Left knee ACL reconstruction w/hamstring graft and meniscus repair 10/00
Left knee bucket handle meniscus tear - partial meniscetomy 4/8/03

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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2003, 06:04:03 PM »
Tried to take G&C, two different times as I do have significant cartilidge loss under the kneecap.  Both times, I experienced full menstrual symptoms even though it wasn't that time of the month.  I have never had this problem except for the two times I tried to take the G&C.  Have any other women had this problem and is anyone aware if G&C have hormonal properties?  I have asked my OS(s) about this and they have never heard of anyone having this kind of problem.
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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2003, 06:57:22 PM »
I never had that reaction before but then I have been spayed. ;)
I have noted now that if I run out of the MSM is when I really hurt can feel it with in a couple of days. The glucosamine (I don't use the one with condroitin in it) it takes weeks to notice a difference. Perhaps MSM will help you more?
Marci :) who is now at 53 lbs lost -funny thing is now my knee can bend more it hurts to do it. ::)
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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2003, 09:01:14 PM »
What is MSM?  Are you in the US?
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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2003, 09:20:04 PM »
yes, in the US, its methylsufonylmethane I take 2000 mg a day. Its good for the hair too ;)
Here you can get it in the grocery store. It should be in the same area as the glucosamine.
Marci
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Joint Juice?
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2005, 02:59:22 AM »
I've been using Joint Juice for the past month and a half.  I guess it's helping some -- actually I'm not really sure how much.  Luckily it's the Glucosimine HCL rather than the sulfate.  I'm allergic to sulfa drugs.  I also just found out that Joint Juice has Splenda in it-- I'm not crazy about that.  Is there a Glucosimine HCL pill will no sulfate in it?  I guess I'll be back in the vitamin/supplement aisle with my reading glasses! ;) 
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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2005, 11:33:05 AM »
Badkneedgal,

Hi, I have never seen this before and thought that it sounded interesting.  I live in Canada so do not know if we have it here yet, but it does sound interesting. 

Hope that this starts working for you.

Shade



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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2005, 05:02:44 PM »
Well Shade, I can tell you that it tastes good.  It is my "little cocktail" at the end of the day -- really.  I pour it in to a cute little drink glass and down it goes!  ;) 

I've also read that Sam-e is good for joints so I may try that eventually.  Has anyone else tried it?  It is also used in place of anti-depressants so I thought that might be a good addition for me during the gloomy Michigan winter months!
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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2005, 05:01:58 PM »
This link may also help explain the supplements. It's from my PT I see - his site has some great stuff on it too.

http://sportscenteraustin.blogs.com/the_view/2005/02/how_to_use_supp.html
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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2005, 06:36:13 PM »
Hey !!

Talked to a person regarding dietcost some days ago. She recommended a preparate consisting avocado and soy, and that should be like glucosamine. Anyone out there heard of that ?

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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2005, 11:15:47 AM »
Hi

I had an ACI 13months ago. Does anyone know if Glucosamine helps with the healing...my OS didn't seem too bothered.

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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2005, 08:40:10 PM »
Hi

I had an ACI 13months ago. Does anyone know if Glucosamine helps with the healing...my OS didn't seem too bothered.

Hathor
It is relevant when joint surface is damaged.
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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2005, 12:35:11 PM »
I have used Glucosmaine sulphate for a number of years, I've not noitced any remarkable difference but that is not to say is doesn't work.
There are a few groups who shouldn't use glucosmaine such as those who have had ACL repairs but I would advocate checking with the pharamacist before you buy.

Iona

why should ya not use if taking glucosmain if acl?
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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2007, 08:12:40 AM »
I've been using Joint Juice for the past month and a half.  I guess it's helping some -- actually I'm not really sure how much.  Luckily it's the Glucosimine HCL rather than the sulfate.  I'm allergic to sulfa drugs.  I also just found out that Joint Juice has Splenda in it-- I'm not crazy about that.  Is there a Glucosimine HCL pill will no sulfate in it?  I guess I'll be back in the vitamin/supplement aisle with my reading glasses! ;) 
-Paula

According to http://www.itmonline.org/arts/sulfa.htm, glucosamine sulfate does not contain sulfa drugs and is not allergenic; it contains sulfate, which "is an existing component in the human body, mainly in the connective tissues."  If you have shellfish allergies you must make sure the sulfate is from a good quality source, but that's about it.

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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2007, 09:48:55 AM »
I found this place via google when I was doing a bit of research.

I've long had a problem with my right knee after an accident many years ago (lift shaft, gravity... not good :P ) and went in for an op last month as it has been rebuilt in the past but had become so painful I couldn't stand on it any longer.

Anyway, op was fine and I'm tremendously better now, but its something that is always going to be sore for me, and when I had new xrays done I was shown the dark areas around joints in my foot where arthritis is developing. Doc said he couldn't do anything other than prescribe anti -inflammatories to reduce the pain/swelling. Its not so bad yet, but I know its going to get worse and I've already become sick of taking pain killers etc

So, about a month ago I thought I'd try some of the natural cures that seem to be quite common. I tried this product from a place called www.simplyvital.com and I'm going to order some more soon as it's really made a difference. All my joints feel less stiff, and I'm more mobile than I've been in years... time to finally get the garden shed cleared out!

Thought I'd just share my experience in case it can help anyone else. I've been reading the links other ppl have been posting... good information :)

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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2007, 08:06:53 PM »
I seen glucosamine and cod liver oil advertised on TV and Newspapers and magazines but always show people over 50 using them and not younger people. My GP said to take them if my knees started to ache. Having Asperger Syndrome these adverts have made me stop taking glucosamine as I feel I am to young to take them when I become 29 in just under 7 weeks time. This posting is silly but with my AS makes me think I dont need any supplements for my joints even though I take a jog every day for 20 minutes around my area that must be around 1 and a half miles.

They need to work on their marketing put photo's of young and older people so people dont think its only for people 50+

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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2011, 10:58:03 AM »
See there's not been much discussion on this recently, but would recommend Karen Hambly's articles elsewhere on the site, which I have just discovered.

Years before my knee trouble started, one cold winter in England, I started to get arthritis -- in my knees, in my back and in my hands. It was totally obvious that it was arthritis, as I developed distinct knobbly bits on the joints of my fingers. I got to the point where I could not lift more than a one plate at a time, could not play the piano. I saw my local GP, who suggested I give glucosamine and chondroitin a try. Within 3 weeks, the knobbles (sp?) disappeared and the condition improved. I have been taking it ever since and rarely have any joint pain at all. (I have a dislocating knee but that's another story)

Looking back I wonder if it was because the weather improved etc etc. I have followed the literature and I know there's no proof that it works. But it's definitely worth a try.

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Re: Knee arthritis - use glucosamine, chondroitin etc
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2015, 12:38:11 AM »
Hello!  I just bought some Gluc Chron MSM yesterday.  Will report back in one month to see if it's helped me!  Dr. said it does help some folks.  I have heard Collagen works too! 















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