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Offline Beth621

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Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« on: January 30, 2007, 04:41:53 AM »
I've switched to swimming from the elliptical cross trainer after left knee broke out in intense pain on medial side.  It's been 10 days since my knee flared up and am experiencing minimal improvements in pain.  I'm wondering if swimming can be bad for your knees?  I thought it wouldn't be since it is non weight-bearing and I am not kicking at all with the left leg.  Anyone heard of this?

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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 04:49:51 AM »
beth

like you said, i would think swimmig would be better becaue there is less weight in that water. i know when i had both of my shoulders dine i was itching to get into a pool. i have not been i with my knee but i am looking to an operation in april and the place i go to PT is building a new building and they are going to have aquatic therapy, so i will try before surgery. but all in all i would think it would be betterin the pool
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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 06:07:36 AM »
Hydro therapy is often used as rehab for top athletes. The best is to be able doing that in a warmer pool. You don't only have to swim in water you can do your excercises in there.
I have PT in heated pool twice week.

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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2007, 06:36:10 PM »
Hi beth

Swimming is definately a good thing to do when having knee problems. I've been told by my OS to do swimming and that only and also my physio agreed with that. Your not putting any unnessersery pressure on the knees but at the same time your building up your muscles, in my opinion it's the best form of workout you can do.

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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2007, 06:57:01 PM »
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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2007, 07:01:07 PM »
I also agree with Sarah.  For me swimming (and all other exercises I do in the water) has assisted in my recovery from meniscus surgery.  The physical therapy was not doing any good and the Orthopedic Surgeon suggested aggressive PT, which I was not receiving from the Physical therapist.  I discussed the issue with the PT and I decided that I might be able to speed the recover process by taking on a new sport-swimming.  Not only did the water assist in speeding the recovery-but as of today the knee is 80% better.  It will never be 100%.  Can still run but can't do hills at all.  But I'm thankful that I'm still able to walk, run, and swim.  My favorite pasttimes.  I hope this was helpful.  Take care and good luck!  

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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2007, 07:07:00 PM »
Thanks for the information on the Water Power workout book!

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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2007, 07:27:19 PM »
I also have medial, joint line pain. I am scheduled for an upcoming cartilage transplant, just waiting for the donor. However, when I try to swim, it hurts the inside of me knee just the same as running or the elliptical. Maybe its the kicking?? So... i guess if you don't kick it will be fine.
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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2007, 10:04:42 PM »
Do not do breast stroke legs! very bad for knees.
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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2007, 03:21:26 PM »
While swimming is usually a good thing for recovery for all the reasons I read above, I have also  heard of some physiotherapists asking patients to hold off because it hard to measure how much stress you're putting on the knee when in the water. 

On dry land PTs can monitor exactly what you're doing by looking at the amount of ankle weights, degree of flex,  etc, but in the water it can be hard to make sure you don't go too far for your particular stage of recovery.

Just a thought.

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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 03:35:10 PM »
Hi there everyone

Just wanted to add because I spoke to my OS about this on Friday. I asked about breast stroke as freestyle legs really hurts my patella as the friction of bone on bone occurs.

I aksed him what his view was on breast stoke as I've heard it's bad for knees but his answer was inconclusive, he said that PT's don't like breatstroke but emphasized that it's very much down to the individual...not really the answer I was looking for!

Hmmm!

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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2007, 07:33:07 PM »
Hi guys!

This is quite an interesting subject for me, it's interesting to hear different people's views!

I've always thought swimming was a good form of excercise and rehibilitation due to the lack of weight bearing? My running and gym days are certainly over, but I couldn't ever give up the pool!

I swim competively for my local club - I'm no Sharon Davies but I try my best!

I'm currently waiting excitidly for my bi-lateral anthroscopy and LR in 3 weeks (3rd date, but that's another story!). I've had a lot of trouble and pain over the past couple of years, and although swimming isn't the main cause, it certainly affects it - sometimes for the worse!

Some days I can be in a lot of pain, but I push myself to go training and then find afterwards that the pain is better, as if it's been stretched out. Other nights I can go with just a little pain, or even none, and then come home in agony. I've been known to get out the pool in tears becuse I get so frustrated with it.

Unfortunatley any competitions are out of the question for me at the moment, my target is to get this done and be back competing in the Welsh Masters Gala in November. I'm using that as my mental aim to get me through the op and aftermath!

My best stroke is front crawl and my second is breast stroke. Initally I was having no difficulties with front crawl, but was finding more than 50m of breast stroke excruciating. However, now it's swapping around! Although the breast is still painful, it doesn't seem as much, unless I've just got used to it! Front crawl has now become quite sore, it sometimes feels like there are shards of glass inside my knee cap - but rarely get that feeling on backstroke?! I now do a lot of pull sets instead to avoid the pain and to avoid doing anymore damage, although probs too late for that!

It's also difficult to straighten my leg for long as the pain builds up in my knee, and my right hip has also started to become a little uncomfortable.

It'll be interesting to hear if any of you are swimmers and how you find the strokes

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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2007, 11:58:55 PM »
I too was told to definitely AVOID breaststroke.  Didn't know if that was specific to acl recon...apparently not. 
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Re: Does swimming worsen knee pain?
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2007, 06:52:58 AM »
Just remember you do not have to be ethel merman to be in the pool.  You can walk front to back..  sideways.. to sideways...  back to front  for fifteen minutes.    If you need a pool noodle to support you .. you can use that..

By the side of the wall of the pool you can march. picking up your knees one at a time.. for five minutes.   You can do heel raises..   You can do Leg raises. 

Just remember if your legs are weak only do about 15 minutes to start..  You will be sore.. the water works alot of muscles.

There is a difference between aqua therapy and all out swimming.  So depending at your stage in recovery.. Your OS may ask you not to do a few moves.  SO check with the OS first if you are unsure. 

After my chrondroplasty with drilling into my MFC And LFC and  partial meniscus removal  operation there was just the joy of walking that was minimal but really tired me out fast and I wouldnt consider to do any back float or side stroke or breast stroke at that point in the game.

Also if you do not have your balance wear aqua shoes.















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