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Offline rounder

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Kneeling bending etc...
« on: January 02, 2007, 04:43:21 PM »
Hi i was just wondering whether anyone else had problems bending down and especially kneeling. My left knee is fine but as i try to knee on my right it feels like something is pulling and stretching inside the medial side of my knee and i cannot fully kneel - stopping about 15cm from the floor. I also cannot bend down with my right leg bent underneath it - it has to be in front. I do alot of horse riding, although i have cut down due to having to revise alot! And i did an awful ot of mountain walking last year - knee was ok , would swell up when i stopped walking and go dwn overnight. I find going down things like steps and slopes quite hard.  The thing is i have a place at vet school to start in Sept 07 (yey!) but as the course is physical and involves alot of bending etc to look at various animals feet etc i don't want to have to give up my place...!  I've always had ongoing knee problems especially when i was growing, strained my mcl last year but i could kneel down about 6 months ago so it is getting progressively worse!  Has anyone else had this type of thing?

happy new year!

kat xx
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Re: Kneeling bending etc...
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2007, 06:04:56 PM »
Sit down with your OS and talk about your concerns.  You should also be able to find your school's list of technical standards either on their website or by talking to an admissions counselor.  Take these to your OS so you can show what exactly you need to be able to do. 

Secondly, Don't even think about giving up your spot because of knee problems.  As it closer to when you start, take a good look at your abilities and talk with the school.  At least if you are going to an American school, they will have to make some accomdations for your knee according to the American's with disabilities act.  They may require documentation from your OS. 

Here is an example of technical standards from Purdue University:

. Body Senses:

A. Vision

1. An individual must be able to observe movement at a distance ranging from 30-45 centimeters to 15-20 meters at a discrimination level that permits detection of subtle differences in movement of the limbs in animals. Application: Detect and describe a change in color of hair coat caused by licking or trauma; detect abnormal head posture in a parakeet; monitoring respiratory rate during anesthesia; ability to read anesthesia monitoring equipment.

2. an individual must be able to discriminate shades of black and white patterns in which the band is not more than 0.5 mm in width. Application: Bacterial hemolysis on a blood agar plate; density patterns on a radiograph; ability to see ECG tracing.

3. Depth perception must allow detection of a 0.5 cm elevation which is no more than 1 cm in diameter on a slightly curved surface having a slightly irregular surface. Application: Detection of tissue swelling on the hip on a smooth-haired dog; determining presence of reaction to skin testing for allergies.

B. Hearing

1. an individual must be able to perceive the natural or amplified human voice without lip reading. Application: Oral communication in a surgery room with all occupants wearing surgical masks.

2. An individual must be able to perceive the origin of sound. Application: Movement of large animals in a pen or corral; monitoring multiple patients in an ICU.

C. Proprioception

1. An individual must be able to determine the position of one hand extended from the body within +/-10o when the arm is extended in any direction, the eyes are closed, and the individual is standing. Application: endotracheal intubation; intravenous injection.

2. An individual must be able to differentiate between four round semisolid objects having diameters of 0.5, 1, 1.5, and 2 cm and judge the shape and consistency of objects when the arm is extended and the eyes are closed.. Application: assisting in surgery; lymph node palpation; palpation of trachea to determine proper endotracheal tube size.

II. Body function:

A. Speech

An individual must be able to speak English and be understood by others who cannot see the lips or facial expressions of the individual. Application: Oral communications in a surgery room where all occupants are wearing surgical masks; managing a patient with cardiac arrest.

B. Coordinated movement.

1. An individual must be able, when communicating with other individuals by speech, either in person or by telephone, to make legible written notes in English within the margins and space provided on the appropriate forms. Application: Completing medical records and charts; anesthesia records.

2. An individual must be able to hold surgical instruments in one hand and perform fine movements with such instruments. Application: assist in holding of hemostats or other instruments while assisting in surgery; induce and monitor general anesthesia in an animal patient; place intravenous catheters.

3. An individual must be able to hold, manipulate, or tie materials ranging from a cloth patch to a very fine string. Application: Hold and manipulate a surgical sponge; tie a 00 silk suture; endotracheal intubation; intravenous injection; catheterize animals to obtain sample of urine; apply bandages.

4. An individual must be able to move his/her entire body a distance of no less than three meters within two seconds of a signal to do so. Application: Movement from danger while handling animals in confined spaces.

C. Physical Stamina.

An individual must be able to lift objects and/or animals weighing 0-5 pounds constantly; 5-20 pounds frequently; 20-50 pounds occasionally. An individual must be able to lift all of the above to a height of one meter and carry the object or animal for a distance of two meters. Application: Placing a dog on a surgery table; lifting and carrying a bag weighing approximately 35 pounds of drugs, equipment and supplies from an ambulatory service vehicle to an animal patient in a nearby barn or lot; restrain a small animal patient for a medical procedure; restrain horses and cattle by halter, twitch, nose tongs and other techniques; administer oral medication to ruminants by balling gun or dose syringe.

D. Allergy and/or fear

An individual must be able to have sustained contact with multiple species of animals and the environments in which they are house and treated. During such contact, the individual must be able to carry out routine medical care on such animals.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Kneeling bending etc...
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2007, 10:50:29 PM »
hi, sounds to me it is still an mcl injury, that either is getting worse or never really healed. i tore my mcl about 2 months ago & barely am able to almost walk with a complete straight leg. i still cant bend & kneel on that knee, it has that pulling feeling. it is improving weekly but it is now about exactly 9 1/2 weeks & still swollen. i had a grade 3 injury. i would say definalty make an appt. with a ortho. doc. as soon as u can. good luck. rosie :-*