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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2006, 02:52:44 PM »
I was sent home with a kyro cuff after my operation.   Reading your posts. I am concerned your OS was not that great with post op instructions and expectations

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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2006, 04:53:28 PM »
Hey Goo

in the uk we don't get things like cryo cuffs - I had to beg them in the hospital to use one while I was there just so I could get my recovery on the move - at no time did they offer any ice.  You normally get posted the post op instructions before your op - if not you normally get full instruction when you leave hosp - trouble is if it is a day surgery and you have had anastaesia you might forget - but it should come on a sheet as well.

We do not use the passive motion machines either after TKR - they get you right up and using the joint - which I think is actually more effective .
1978 - ruptured acl and all cartalidge removed.
several debridements over years
TKR 10TH JULY 2006 http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=28257.0  Aug 07 patellar maltracking - more physio! Still pain - but so much better !
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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2006, 05:08:40 PM »
Sorry to sound harsh,
But patients in america get it so cushy, but then again you do pay for it!
We do pay for it out of our wages, but still not enough money to go around the NHS!
We in england have no crutches for arthrosocpies, even when I had both done together! we have occasional ice bags (if your lucky), I had CPM for only one and half hours after my partial knee replacement and only two half hour session after my Total knee replacement. We have one hour session of PT a week for about 6-8 weeks.
We have to do all our exercises on our own, no PT person comes us.
After most knee ops, all of mine (except the ACI), see signature below, I had to be up and about the very next day!
Which I totally agree with Anja, is a lot better and gets you onto recovery quicker.
You can also get your date for your op sooner, and contact them almost at any time and get a post op appointment quick, we have long lists, cannot contact our OS directly and have to wait for appointments which can often be cancelled again and again.
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Apr 01 - bi-lat debride
Dec 01 - bi-lat mircrofracture & LR
Nov 02 - bi-lat debride & LR
Oct 04 - bi-lat A'scopy & harvest
Nov 04 - R ACI
June 05 - R A'scopy/shave
May 06 - R TKR
Aug 06 - L  PFJR
Jan 07 - L open LR
Oct 08 - L open LR
Feb 09 - L A'scopy/shave
July 09 - L TKR......
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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2006, 05:17:16 PM »
Hiya jules,

Im from south wales, and I came home with crutches, got to give them back thought!! even though paid privatly!

I have been on these crutches 7 weeks now- 3 weeks before op and now 4 weeks after scope for menisectomy.

im hoping im going to be able to walk properly soon!! considering most people walk out of the hospital
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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2006, 05:21:57 PM »
hey spot on Jules!

I have had 4 arthroscopies and debrediments and was NEVER given crutches - I am very pleased about that otherwise I might have gone soft! ouch that sounds mean but you need to get on with life.
1978 - ruptured acl and all cartalidge removed.
several debridements over years
TKR 10TH JULY 2006 http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=28257.0  Aug 07 patellar maltracking - more physio! Still pain - but so much better !
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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2006, 05:25:37 PM »
Too right Anja,
I think I would have been a lot slower recovery if I had had crutches.

Tegs,
I was on crutches for approx 2 years and in a wheelchair for 5 months before my TKR 4 months ago, since then I had my PFR 12 days ago, and only had crutches for a week after my TKR and only use one stick now and sometime never, I don't get dependent on it.

Try to get rid of it, not use it, or use only one for a while, you may still need one outside for stability at first, but you need to loose it now.

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Jules
Apr 01 - bi-lat debride
Dec 01 - bi-lat mircrofracture & LR
Nov 02 - bi-lat debride & LR
Oct 04 - bi-lat A'scopy & harvest
Nov 04 - R ACI
June 05 - R A'scopy/shave
May 06 - R TKR
Aug 06 - L  PFJR
Jan 07 - L open LR
Oct 08 - L open LR
Feb 09 - L A'scopy/shave
July 09 - L TKR......
20 ops in 13 years

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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2006, 05:35:32 PM »
Hiya all,
Im a little worried to put all my weight on the leg, im 23 stone!!! i know my body hasbeen carrying this for years! lol
but im scared because of surgery.
No one has told me not to, but i cant bend the knee properly... im worried i may do more damage...
hang on may get a kick in the butt,,,, lol

think positive

should i start icing to bring down the swelling an take stiffness away....

what are your thoughts x
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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2006, 05:37:46 PM »
TEGS  I cant believe you are asking this once again.

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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2006, 05:38:17 PM »
grrrrrrrr Tegs you're driving me bonkers - go for a walk, do some exercises, then ice after.  your leg has supported you all this time and is NOT going to stop now!
1978 - ruptured acl and all cartalidge removed.
several debridements over years
TKR 10TH JULY 2006 http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=28257.0  Aug 07 patellar maltracking - more physio! Still pain - but so much better !
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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2006, 05:39:41 PM »
OK OK!!!!!


Ive done loads already today much more than i normally would!

just wanted to double check x
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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2006, 05:40:50 PM »
ice will never hurt you unless you are the wicked witch of the west and start to melt..   Dare you chance it ?

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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2006, 05:41:06 PM »
Look Tegs no messing now.....
You should put your weight on it, I know your overweight but the majority of your knee is used to it any way. The more you don't the more stiff you are going to become!
You need to move around, do your exercises and about 3 times a day for 20 mins ice the knee after a session of walking and exericise.
Even try a warm bath before you start your exercises, this used to help me with the stiffness and swelling, you only get the stiffness for not using the knee.
I have now had 12 ops on my knees, so I know what I'm talking about, being scared isn't an issue if you want to start to get your life back, if thats what you want?
Jules
Apr 01 - bi-lat debride
Dec 01 - bi-lat mircrofracture & LR
Nov 02 - bi-lat debride & LR
Oct 04 - bi-lat A'scopy & harvest
Nov 04 - R ACI
June 05 - R A'scopy/shave
May 06 - R TKR
Aug 06 - L  PFJR
Jan 07 - L open LR
Oct 08 - L open LR
Feb 09 - L A'scopy/shave
July 09 - L TKR......
20 ops in 13 years

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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2006, 05:42:21 PM »
 SEE i knew there was a reason... i wasnt icing!!!! ;D

I ahvent had a bar of chocolate today... so ice ater exercises from physio, dont eat and think positive i got it!!!!
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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2006, 05:42:38 PM »
GOO,
I'M MELTING !!!!
Jules
Apr 01 - bi-lat debride
Dec 01 - bi-lat mircrofracture & LR
Nov 02 - bi-lat debride & LR
Oct 04 - bi-lat A'scopy & harvest
Nov 04 - R ACI
June 05 - R A'scopy/shave
May 06 - R TKR
Aug 06 - L  PFJR
Jan 07 - L open LR
Oct 08 - L open LR
Feb 09 - L A'scopy/shave
July 09 - L TKR......
20 ops in 13 years

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Re: Ice questions- how to do it.
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2006, 05:44:18 PM »
I'm being driven to alcohol (or choc) ;D ;D ;D ;D - just kidding!

gotta go - catch ya later
1978 - ruptured acl and all cartalidge removed.
several debridements over years
TKR 10TH JULY 2006 http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=28257.0  Aug 07 patellar maltracking - more physio! Still pain - but so much better !
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