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Offline trudy

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fighting depression
« on: June 13, 2006, 03:56:25 PM »
Long story short I am 52 years old - Used to be Very Active - bike riding, kick boxing, etc.  Now I am lucky if I can walk down the stairs.   I had arthrosocpic surgery on both keens (arthritis)  last July he said he just cleaned and scraped them.  I have been in PT for a long time; I have tried accupuncture - I take celebrex and arthritis tylenol - I ice and I am so tired of the pain and the limitations on my life.   I am getting really depressed.  Any suggestions?????? :P

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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2006, 04:01:38 PM »
Have you tried taking Glucosamine and Conjointrin?  If you search on these supplements on this site you should see a few postings on them.  I have bad knees and take these supplements.  They help restore the cushion in the joints.  Not 100% proven but they do seem to help me.  You have to take them for a few weeks before you see any results but would be worth a shot.

Good luck!  I know how hard it is to go from being active to not being able to do much.  Hang in there!

Jan 1989 Torn ACL(L)
Dec 2005 Complex Tear to Medial Meniscus (L)
Feb 2006 Repaired ACL and Meniscus Trim

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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2006, 04:20:59 PM »
Also, you might consider reading about the hyaluronic acid injections.  Seems like the posts on this site are about 50-50 about the success.  BTW Mobic works for me.  Good luck!  I'm facing surgery next week.  donna
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June 22 scope, shave meniscus tear and bone spur and open LR.

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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2006, 07:35:38 PM »
Your story is mine exactly though I am 40 though and I have severe depression and cry alot too coming to terms with a new seditary life and alot of pain. I searched for an arthritis and free counseling groups for support but I have found none in my area thus far....maybe there are some free support groups in your area for support. I also attend a free mediation class once a week during one evening to relieve stress and pain. The pain usually goes away during the meditation but it does come back again.
good luck,
sincerely liza

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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2006, 08:56:52 PM »
Hi Trudy,
Have you been told where the arthritis is? You may benefit from certain braces out there that are used to "unload" the areas that are damaged. There are also surgical options that are designed to do the same thing. Try cross-posting in the arthritis section and you may get some help from those suffering with your debilitating condition. Try not to dispair, a good OS should be able to give you some light at the end of the tunnel.
CG
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R kneecap dislocation '00
Diagnostic scope Jan '06
R MPFL reconstruction & lateral release Mar '06
L MPFL reconstruction Dec '07

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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2006, 06:07:11 PM »
Make an appiontment with Pysch-
Some people (like me) develop PTSD after surgury. It is the doctor's dirtly little secret.
There is also anesthesia awareness which cab cause symptoms like PTSD.
Anesthesia is still "black box" medicine. No matter how much they try to sugar coat it you are put in state that is near death and then brought back to "life". Things can and do go wrong. Sometimes the wrong things are depression.

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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2006, 08:55:13 PM »
Trudy,

Your post doesn't give me much information but here are some of my thoughts.  Dealing with constant pain can be very depressing, so maybe a pain management program is something to look into. Is the pain the main reason of your depression,  is it the inability to exercise,  is it the social interactions you miss since you can't do the things you used to do with your friends? It may be a combination of all of these.

There must be a form of exercise you can do. How about swimming or aquajogging. Have you tried a recumbent bike? I know people who can't use their legs at all who move the bike with their hands (I don't know what these bikes are called).
If you miss the social interactions, you can volunteer at events. (I recently had to cancel a weeklong bike tour and was so depressed about having to stay home that I went along as a volunteer which was a lot of fun).

I hope you're finding ways to deal with your depression.  You're reaching out to others who've been there, which is a good place to start.  Good luck!

Runswithdogs

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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2006, 03:51:05 AM »
Since you were open to acupuncture, why not try other forms of "alternative" medicine... light therapy was one that was recommended to me.  I second what another posted said about meditation too.... I got a lot of releaf from acupuncture, but not 100%.  I went through a very low, depressed point too... I am 36 and can't run and jump with my kids, or play on the floor with them.... I was "losing it".  I went to a therapist and she recommended the acu and the meditation. 

If you can find SOMETHING you enjoy doing that doesn't cause too much discomfort, that will help your state of mind... I have a recumbent bike and it does help a bit... I was a 50-55 mile a week walker before my surgery.  I felt very alone and like a complainer and didn't want to burden my friends with my complaints. 

YOU AREN'T ALONE!!!

Let us know if you decide to try anything different and if it's working. 


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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2006, 05:58:40 PM »
Hi Trudy

I am so pleased you have found this site. I personally have drawn so much strength from people on here. It has been a therapy for me to speak with people who truly understand.

I too have arthritis which is debiltating but have recentely undergone corrective surgery which appears to have made a huge difference. I was 'disabled' for almost three years so completely understand what you are going through. (I'm 33)  Every time I got down because I couldn't do things with my fiance or step daughter I would break down. It all became too much until I decided that I wouldn't let my knee effect my mind too! I started to try and focus on ths things that I could do, i.e swimming, reading, playing chess, socialising with friends. The feeling of being incapable and the frustration improved, a change in medication had a lot to do with it too.  ;)

Sorry that I have spoken so much about myself, I just wanted you to know that you are not alone, many of us here understand. Talk to us, vent, rant and also tell us about the things you can do.

Try the suppliment route too, like glucosamine, I also take omega 6 3 and 9 and cod liver oil. I also benefit from glucosamine and emu oil gel. Someone mentioned acupuncture, try it.

Most of all, don't give up.

You are in my thoughts.
Hop ;D

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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2006, 02:13:03 AM »
There is nothing worse than feeling all emotional.  It is natural that you just get sad thinking of all you lost and than you second guess yourself and than it becomes a battle of mind over matter. . Learning to understand your medical problems and than dealing with a recovery that we may have not have realized would take so damn long.  The thing that takes the cake is learning to know what kind of pain you are having for the day..    Like today. Raining again .. foot hurts and knee hurts.   I have my lidocaine patches on like crazy and really want a pain killer .. but they are upstairs and If I go upstairds I know I will want to rest on the bed and most likely fall asleep for the rest of the night.   Which there is nothing wrong with ...  if you are 50 60 . 70 .. but I am 36 ..  and feel like a slug.

I think for me personally I get very depressed just before bed time If I am going to throw myself a pity party.. Thats what I call It when I start to cry for no damn reason.

I try to think of productive things to keep my mind buzy..   I make jewlry and sometimes I read .. I do swim .. . Sometimes I just surf the internet.. and than I think I am sititng to long and it just hurts to stand up .. .. and I think that I am abusing my computer chair bcos it has wheels and wheeling myself across the room sometimes.   Pretty lame. huh..

I do think you will find alot of support on this site.   And you will find that you will get cheers for the little things you start to accomplish . since alot of people here.. know what it is like to loose the ease of walking  and dealing with a period of disability in their life.


Just rememeber  your knee will be great one day.

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Re: fighting depression
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2006, 09:45:39 AM »
4 months ago i had surgery tore the acl and the later meniscus as well as the medial meniscus pain is back again  and  having very difficult time   with  my os he refuses to order a mri     i told him pain still  here but he refused i threatened him last visit and  now waiting for a  approval for another mri i      cant beat the depression     i used to work out and  go gym and     take karate classes     and im pretty sure     left knee is   injured also which doc wont listn to me  as well cant stop crying my life is ruined and  i eat and eat and eat and am gaining weight i figure why bother ill never be the same again

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2006, 11:35:29 AM »
you are talking to someone who knows about depression cause I have server depression. I found out I had it in april 2004 and I have been on medication since then and all they do is try one medicine and see if it works cause depression is a guessing game for even Doctors. But sometime it help to go talk to a shrink anyway and your not less of a person it just having someone to listen to you and try to help you get the depression under control. I was a healthy 32 year old then it just seemed like all at once my body started falling apart. I had trouble with my knees in basic training and during being activated for the Iraq war berfore I went over the found out I had a messed up back so they would not let me go. I like you am in pain everyday and it makes me not want to do anything or be around a lot of people and that is what lead to my depression and know I find my self getting mad at people for no reason. They just say something I don't like or they bump into me and I just go off on them. So I do feel for you cause I am going through the samething. But just look at the few bright things in your life and don't do anything to hurt yourself. I have to think about my son when I get to think about doing bad things to myself and I am sure if you just take time and think about the good things you work through the ruff times and the pain does get old after awhile so I know how you fell there to.   















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