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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2006, 12:26:51 AM »
good luck. let us know how you make out

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2006, 12:57:20 PM »
Hello T Bucket,

I crossed the total replacement option off of the consent form and asked my OS to do the best he could with the Vanguard. It does put more pressure on the surgeon to exercise extreme caution while removing the old component - they only replaced the tibial component as the femoral component is the same for both the Vanguard and the Oxford. You might ask what thickness of bearing was used in the Oxford, my surgeon had used the 8mm unit and the thickest Vanguard unit is also 8mm. Problems occur when the removal of the old unit takes bone with it and the Vanguard unit can’t take up the play created. I was warned that there might be noise and play in the Vanguard - play is not a problem the knee is far more comfortable and stable than the Oxford was.

It still not fully healed it will be 3 months on Sept 6th but it seems to be coming along beautifully - all the best on Tuesday. By the way, I'm also an automotive enthusiast - I have a 63 Corvette and was a Technician for years before becoming involved in the educational sector. The Corvette doesn't get much use lately as I continue to ride to work as part of my PT.


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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2006, 07:12:27 PM »
hi all . just got back home after 15 days in hospital , when they opened up knee tha spacer had lodged itself in back of joint cavity but was undameged ? but when they checked out joint they found out that the plastic  spacer was 5mm too thin hence why it fell out , the os had opened up my knee 10 inches straight down the middle incase he decided to fit tkr but upon inspection the rest of the joint was undamaged so he fitted thicker spacer , pre-op they had fitted epidural and they left it in post- op  . the first day post op i was got up out of bed and every thing was great 10-15 yards in ward , the following night the epidural canular got pulled out by my tooing & frowing in bed so it was removed , day 2 the physios turned up and i could not even lift my leg up without pain eventually got both feet on ground tried to stand up and i had a agonising pain in the inside edge of knee and i only took 3 steps & gave up , even with a coctail of morphine sulphate - tramadon - co codamol - carbapentin & oramorf still no go , had xrays this test & that test ,still no answers , so after 15 days in hospital i now hop on two crutches and iam now worse off, the os has decided that if situation does not settle down in 6 weeks we might have to consider the total joint route , i am well pee'd off , any thought's anybody , regards to all steve
arthroscopy - 2004 .knee nbg
PKR fitted 09/2005
joint plastic spacer fell out 07/ 2006
repair  joint new spacer 09/06
joint bust Again 09/2006
had tkr 03/07 , now new
tkr condemed' replacement dec/07 
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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2006, 11:24:21 AM »
Hugs first and then lots of tea sympathy you poor thing. I truely underrstand how it is to have to endure lots of suregry and have things go less thasn well.
I am thinking about you and hope that you soon get some well deserved help amd answers.
Hugs H xxx
Facing my  66 th operation. Psoratic arthritis hyper mobile joints.Permanantly disabled but mobile thanks to skill and patience of a lovely surgeon.Married with two daughters.Had unstable and shallow joints had tiny knee caps now removed. constant battle to stay mobile using crutches or wheelchair.

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2006, 05:46:34 PM »
hi helen thanks for that , i am really feeling fed up at moment as now  after one week out of hospital ,and three weeks post op my knee has started rocking side to side again as before , can only weight bare on leg if i stand with weight on outer part of knee ( origonal part of knee joint ) but soon as i start to walk the pain in metal side is exscrusiating , have taken so many pain killers i am rattling , i wish i could turn back clock 13 months and not had joint replaced , any body else had this problem before or am i just unlucky ? steve
arthroscopy - 2004 .knee nbg
PKR fitted 09/2005
joint plastic spacer fell out 07/ 2006
repair  joint new spacer 09/06
joint bust Again 09/2006
had tkr 03/07 , now new
tkr condemed' replacement dec/07 
smiles tkr joint

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2006, 06:17:50 PM »
Hi Steve

I am so sorry that you are having this trouble and pain - you think you are doing the best by going through this treatment to get the quality of life back and to be pain free - and then to be left with more problems is so tragic - I really feel for you. I also understand that it is not just the pain - it is also the knock on effect it has on your whole family,friends ability to work and pay the mortgage and of course your mental well being - it would be so easy to get down over this.

I would have thought that yours is a very rare case - it has got to be or there would be so more people on here with the same trouble.

I felt really bad reading this after sitting here today moaning that my knee hurts again! - (prob should take some painkillers!) and I am  10 weeks post op - but like everyone says - it could take up to a year before it is totally right again - hmmm could be a long year! lol - Have to go back to work in 10 days - the overdraft can't take anymore! and what with one off to uni next week it has got to be done - really worried about it as it involves standing for about 8 out of 10 hrs there! okay will shut up! ;D

Do you have a date when you go back to your OS - actually I don't think I would wait, and give him a ring or email him - you should not be in this much pain.
Makes me wonder if the OS shouldn't have just gone for a TKR!
Thinking of you, take care and keep us up to date.

anja
1978 - ruptured acl and all cartalidge removed.
several debridements over years
TKR 10TH JULY 2006 http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=28257.0  Aug 07 patellar maltracking - more physio! Still pain - but so much better !
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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2006, 05:28:53 PM »
hi  / am in a right pickle now , my knee joint has gone wrong again definatly the joint has started to bow inwards ,i think the mecal spacer has slipped out Again , i cannot walk on it again ,i have a terrible amount of pain and a horrible Burning feeling on inside edge but knee is not getting Hot guess that could be a bit of ligament damage , i went to my gp and he said " BE OFF WITH YOU TO THE HOSPITAL " so i have a emergency appointment for 3pm tommorrow with surgeon , i think myself that this is going to be the start of total knee joint ,  :'( , i wish they had done this last time instead of mucking around with repairing before , still Doctors know best ? :)
« Last Edit: September 27, 2006, 05:32:54 PM by tbucketmad »
arthroscopy - 2004 .knee nbg
PKR fitted 09/2005
joint plastic spacer fell out 07/ 2006
repair  joint new spacer 09/06
joint bust Again 09/2006
had tkr 03/07 , now new
tkr condemed' replacement dec/07 
smiles tkr joint

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2006, 05:48:37 PM »
It would be nice to think so!!  However - I am in no doubt that they do what they think is for the best outcome - lets face it - there are no doctors short of patients, so it is in their interest as well as yours to get a 'First fix'

Sorry about all this trouble you are having Steve :(

Very best of luck tomorrow - don't know how much you trust or know your OS but would you dare to ask him for a second opinion as to where to go from here? I know that some specialise in certain areas and it might be that he is not yet so accomplished in his field that he knows how to solve problems like this - having said this - any decent OS who gets out of his depth should refer you anyway!!

Let us know how you get on!

anja
1978 - ruptured acl and all cartalidge removed.
several debridements over years
TKR 10TH JULY 2006 http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=28257.0  Aug 07 patellar maltracking - more physio! Still pain - but so much better !
BIOMET AGC  TKR  (with 10 yr warranty !)

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2006, 08:26:39 PM »
oh well as feared been to hospital today and it's , Out with the old ,in with the new , have got to have revision of oxford pkr for shiney new Tkr , consultant has put on urgent schedule so hope it will be sooner rather than later .
It appears that there is some alignment problems with the prosteisis metalwork and that is why the meniscal bearing fitment has failed again ( pretty good for 4 ish weeks of use)  ??? , suppose just my luck ,and is this a record ?
worst part of today was when os's registrar got hold of my tibia in half nelson grip and started rocking it side to side whilst appologising to me as i was yelping , :'( i would have clumped him if i could have reached him , and to top the day off , got caught by a gatso camera on the way home , so speeding fine on it's way i'm sure
THE PERFECT END TO A PERFECT DAY ,
regards to all from Steve
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arthroscopy - 2004 .knee nbg
PKR fitted 09/2005
joint plastic spacer fell out 07/ 2006
repair  joint new spacer 09/06
joint bust Again 09/2006
had tkr 03/07 , now new
tkr condemed' replacement dec/07 
smiles tkr joint

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2006, 10:09:30 PM »
you need a snooper!!!! bad luck - you are not the only one - I got caught a while back.

so a new knee coming your way - do you know when - ask if they will do it with computer navigation system - that is waht my OS used - apparently it is a foolproof fit!

good luck with it
anja
1978 - ruptured acl and all cartalidge removed.
several debridements over years
TKR 10TH JULY 2006 http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=28257.0  Aug 07 patellar maltracking - more physio! Still pain - but so much better !
BIOMET AGC  TKR  (with 10 yr warranty !)

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2006, 10:18:38 PM »
spoken like a true knee geek.  So what brand of TKR are you getting?  Blink..

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2006, 06:39:15 PM »
Suppose that will be a good question to ask  :), what ones are better than others ,and are some fitments better suited to some people and are some to be avoided ?   
arthroscopy - 2004 .knee nbg
PKR fitted 09/2005
joint plastic spacer fell out 07/ 2006
repair  joint new spacer 09/06
joint bust Again 09/2006
had tkr 03/07 , now new
tkr condemed' replacement dec/07 
smiles tkr joint

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2006, 07:39:37 PM »
Think I would avoid the Oxford :o ::) :P

I have a Biomet AGC - I lkie mine!! ;D

Thing is that I don't think you get too much of a choice here - it tends to be what your surgeon uses and therefore knows - reckon it has something to do with sponsorship from the companies that make them as well - I was pleased though that my biomet has a good write up.
1978 - ruptured acl and all cartalidge removed.
several debridements over years
TKR 10TH JULY 2006 http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=28257.0  Aug 07 patellar maltracking - more physio! Still pain - but so much better !
BIOMET AGC  TKR  (with 10 yr warranty !)

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2006, 07:40:59 AM »
Ive been researching many of the different types from different manufacturers
and noticed there are specific tkr prostesis for revisions ,
my surgurey is not being carried out by the same OS who fitted my pkr
apparently he do'snt do this job so he refered me to a specialist team
i think they will need to do a bit of bone graft filling work to get it to line up properly this time  :-\
has any one had experiance of this type of job  ???-regards steve
arthroscopy - 2004 .knee nbg
PKR fitted 09/2005
joint plastic spacer fell out 07/ 2006
repair  joint new spacer 09/06
joint bust Again 09/2006
had tkr 03/07 , now new
tkr condemed' replacement dec/07 
smiles tkr joint

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Re: oxford knee failure
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2006, 05:32:12 PM »
hi all / just got back from hospital , been to see  new surgeon ,surgery all agreed  asap ,they did  some x ray's with me weight bearing on knee (standing up ) and it appears tibial fitment is in ski wiff , and all out of alignment , basicly when i stand on leg the top bit of joint is level but the tibial bit slopes down hill at about 15 degrees , so in a nutshell it's been put in crooked  ,hence why it wobbles . 
they are proposing fitting new TKR  a Johnson & Johnson de'puy pfc rotating platform joint ?
looked on thier website looks all very impresive but has anybody had any experiance of these ?, will keep you all posted
« Last Edit: September 28, 2008, 05:46:32 PM by T- Bucket mad »
arthroscopy - 2004 .knee nbg
PKR fitted 09/2005
joint plastic spacer fell out 07/ 2006
repair  joint new spacer 09/06
joint bust Again 09/2006
had tkr 03/07 , now new
tkr condemed' replacement dec/07 
smiles tkr joint