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Offline celinenj03

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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2006, 06:38:28 PM »
Hi Henri,

I am from the US, right outside of the city of Philadelphia. The weather right now is very nice here. It is averaging about 70 degrees each day.

When I obsess about my knee I try to do one of two things, either I start to exercise or I go shopping. Both seem to help me feel better about it.

Don't worry, it's normal to think about it right now. You have to be careful still for a little while. But in time as you do more and more and get confident you'll forget it to a point but nobody should completely forget it because it's what helps us to be more careful next time or more tuned in to our bodies.
Terrible Triad - 1/16/06 - Basketball
3/15/06 - Scope/Cleanout of to achieve full ROM
5/3/06 - Surgery-ACL Reconstruction-Allograft
9/12/07 - Large Loose body removed;Grade 4 Lesion on LFC
9/17/08-Microfracture, Lateral Release (all right knee)

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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2006, 07:46:29 PM »
cool:P people from US.Anyway hows Bush doing, still wasting money on Iraq? while for that money every person in US could get 5 different knee operations for that money:D
Anyhow i dont think much about my knee anymore, i have accepted totally,that i have this problem and its not that bad at all actually.The thing with being careful is it doesent matter how careful you are,you still could get stuck somewhere and fall some way strangly.Me for example did some  pretttty nice falls on my bad knee even when being at my home and on crutches.So you cant really stop living, theres also need for some luck.
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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2006, 10:45:37 AM »
Hi Celine
Always find yr advice really useful. Thank you!

Had such a great day yesterday and managed to get back on the bike last night, as well as working the ROM.  Same this morning so the rest on friday did the trick after the excruciating PT session on thursday.

I went back and reread our postings and I am so grateful for all the people who have written in and helped us along... it really cheered me up to see that I have come a long way since my initial cry for help.  I am over the complete terror I felt about the forthcoming op I felt on friday.  I just dont know why I got into such a state now that I am over it.  Weird.

Who will help you take care of your little one's post-op?  Are you staying in o/night.  I have my op scheduled for 8am and they say I can come home at approx 6pm provided I can walk using crutches.   My OS says he will put in a "block" to help with pain.  So I guess its just a case of wait and see.  All I can do is try to get as much good food, exercise and early nights in to help my body deal with the shock of it all... well that's the theory anyway! ;)


Hi Henri
Gosh u sound very active... I cant imagine ever rollerblading I would just be too terrified to mess up my knee again.  Do u wear some sort of support?
Where do u live? Is it flat or hilly?  U will see from previous postings that we are a British family living in the Middle East (my husband on contract - Dubai is a fast growing multinational city with good access to beach and desert.  It is pretty flat here but gets really hot during the summer months.  I exercised walking on the beach and swimming - my job as a preschool teacher is fairly active, which you would know if you have ever spent time with 3 1/2-5 yr olds.
My new PT is British and my OS is Canadian.  I will be using the American Hospital for surgery although there is now quite a wide choice of hospitals here.  From what I understand many of the nurses are from South Africa and the Phillipines.  The first  OS and PT I saw were from Germany and Lebanon and although very charming got us worried because they didnt see eye to eye.  So, as I said earlier we got a 2nd opinion, moving to a Sports specialist and feel much better!  That's enough warbling from me...

Have a great day
Sheri L
skiing injury 16 mar 06,
 unhappy triad,
acl healing response repair 3 May 06

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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2006, 11:30:39 AM »
I live in eastern Europe place called Estonia.Its really flat in here,thought i live in the less flat part.Highest peak is 300 meters:P in Baltic states.Estonia is 1 of the 3 states.So i cant even consider them as mountains,they are more like hills or so.Anyway i have read about Dubai and it really is growing fast, i have seen pictures where they have built skycrapers with 10 years  on totally desert or so.Very cool kinda,thought you dont have the forests and nature like we do i suppose.And yes,i know how active childer can be, i used to be one like only 10 yeras ago or so:P
The shopping ,different from you depresses me,because year ago when i went shopping i mostly bought shopping goods, but now i dont need them,neither i dont wear out my trainers and stuff like that, so yeah:P
Exercising is also very good.I just love to go rollerblading and listening music at the same time.Its the most relaxing thing i suppose at the moment,which i can do.Its spring here and everything is "waking up".Sun is shining etc, very cool.
I wear a brace, which is like yeah,is big lets just say,but it supports my knee very good.But my doctor said to go on a smaller one,but i havent had time to go to bigger city ,where we can buy those braces.I am certainly going on a smaller brace.I have thought to skate without the brace,but have till now stil but it on, because if someting happens,i probably cant stop blaming myself.But i used to go skiing also without brace,when i didnt know that my acl was totally broken and mensicus damaged.It was like 3 hours for 2 days or so,and i didnt actually felt no pain.That happend over 5 months after my MCL was reconnected.

Sheri I you i was wondering how were you even able to walk on your leg after the accident.I know you wouldnt walking,but even just to go on without the operation.After the accident,when my friends left and i wanted to come off the trampoline i tryed to step on my leg and it bent in the right ,like totally gave away.I had the surgery at the same night before it swelled up.I was on pills for 2 days in hospital and it was actually really fun.In my room there were 2 guys with spinal injuries,they could walk,but had some surgeries on them and there was one guy who was just came from car accident.I heard on radio that there was a car accident and soon after that they came in with the patient:P so it was cool or so:D
You shouldnt be afraid about the pain and stuff,its not that bad and after a week or so it totally goes away.After the first operation i had to wear plaster for 3 weeks and brace was on after the plaster for 5 weeks.I wasnt allowed to take it off even sleeping.Sleeping with plaster is actually really complicated,because you cant find the right position at all, later on i mastered the sleeping with plaster on leg:P
I wasnt able to bend my knee at all for 3 weeks.Then they but brace on ,which allowed to bend it for 15 degrees,second week they but on 30 degrees,3 week 45 degrees,4 week 90 degrees and 5 th week full range.Thought i havent managed to get back the full range till now.I was very close ,but then came the second surgery and i am again now working on it.I can bend it totally in full range,if i really try,but it takes alot of stretching ,for half an hour ,and some pain,but eventually i manage to bend it in full range.Let me say,after 9 month it feels very strange.But take care and dont be affraid about the knee operation.Take it as a challenge.
I am certainly many times more affraid of the mathematic exam on tuesday ,which decides my whole future of studying in university,so yeah,challenges...i eat them for dinner:D
BYE
ou,i remember that i also had the burning senstation,you probably got your answer on the other pages,but its the MCL thats burning/burned in there.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2006, 11:32:32 AM by henri »
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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2006, 02:03:09 PM »
Hello Sheri and Henri,

Henri, it really is great to hear that you have come such a long way. And you are right, this is a challenge and something we can overcome in time.

Sheri, I am not staying overnight. They don't make a bid deal of these operations here as they are done so often. I will go in around 11 a.m. and probably be back home by 5 p.m. My mom is coming to stay with me the first week to help with the kids. My husband said he could take some time after that. So I think I'm in pretty good shape.

I feel the same as you and I remember having this feeling last time. You get to a point where you're like, okay, let's just get on with it now. I felt that way walking into the operating room actually enthusiastic that it was close to being done with.

Once we are past Weds. we can focus on getting strong and getting back to our lives again. I don't know if I'm getting the block, but I think I probably am too since one of the nurses mentioned it, I think it is pretty standard here. I didn't even ask my OS a lot of questions about the procedure. He said he will go in through the same holes I already have from the scope and put the new ACL in and secure it with some screws. That's basically it. If I ask a lot of questions or seem concerned, he makes me feel as though there is nothing to worry about as this is common practice. I don't mind the way he is because he had the same attitude with my first op and he was exactly right and did a great job. I can't believe how far I've come in 6 short weeks with that.

It's great that you have a sports doc Sheri, they really know what they are doing. My OS is a sports doc and he is also my second opinion. My first OS looked at my MRI and didn't say anything for awhile, then started going over the notes. I didn't get a sense that he performed many of these operations before. When I told him I'd like a second opinion, he really seemed relieved. Again, my OS now does several of these every week. When I went in for my scope last time he had 2 he was doing in that 2 hour window I was there so I know he does them all the time, plus operated on several professional athletes here.

I will look for you this week. I don't know when I'll get back on after Weds. I might just give myself a break from the PC. I don't have a laptop either so I don't know how I'll position myself in front of my pc with my leg straight out but once I figure it all out I will surely check back in! All the best to you on Weds.,

Celine
Terrible Triad - 1/16/06 - Basketball
3/15/06 - Scope/Cleanout of to achieve full ROM
5/3/06 - Surgery-ACL Reconstruction-Allograft
9/12/07 - Large Loose body removed;Grade 4 Lesion on LFC
9/17/08-Microfracture, Lateral Release (all right knee)

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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2006, 02:37:44 PM »


 I might just give myself a break from the PC. I don't have a laptop either so I don't know how I'll position myself in front of my pc with my leg straight out but once I figure it all out I will surely check back in!

Celine
Ou thats not easy,believe me:P It is possible to sit for a while,but to make a marathon computer racing,you will lose to your computer
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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2006, 01:28:56 PM »
Sheri, How are you???? Please write as soon as you can.
Terrible Triad - 1/16/06 - Basketball
3/15/06 - Scope/Cleanout of to achieve full ROM
5/3/06 - Surgery-ACL Reconstruction-Allograft
9/12/07 - Large Loose body removed;Grade 4 Lesion on LFC
9/17/08-Microfracture, Lateral Release (all right knee)

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« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2006, 09:04:55 AM »
Hi Guys... Hi Celine HOW R U???

My Wednesday went like this:  up with the birds, at the American Hospital 6am, check in, pre-med.  My OS visited me and marked my leg... I was away with the fairies.  Had the op and came round in recovery HOURS later... shivering, shaking.  Was under a foil wrap, pink hot air blanket and on oxygen and drip.  I am in the 0.05% who have the kind of reaction I had to the anaethesia.  Horrible.  My poor hub.  He had been told I would be out of recovery at about 11am and I only showed up at 2pm.  He was beside himself.  And then the throwing up.   But I was determined to go home... all I had to do was walk and pass water.  Well nothing was going to stop me.  I managed, and with my numb leg, wobbled home.   I continued to throw up until 9pm that night when I was finally safely back in my lovely bed at home (after negotiating the 21 marble stairs on crutches).  YES, I AM ALIVE, I AM HOME.

NO....ANOTHER MONTH IN A HORRID FULL LEG BRACE.

Celine you have been in my thoughts and prayers.  But for some or other reason I have just not felt up to chatting.  It was a shock to discover that all the exercise sheets I had ready for post-op were to be ignored.  The first day my OS phoned to say, get off the crutches today - and shower, sit on the floor, brace off, shower, dry, brace on. 
Well we have made excellent progress.   I am back to showering normally.  I can take the brace off at home, gradually building up the time I stalk about stiff-legged.   I massage the incisions with vitamin e dialy and do my limited exercise. 

I got back in the pool on wednesday and things have begun to look up. Yesterday morning, when I did the bit where I press my knee down and try and get my heel off the floor LO AND BEHOLD>> IT MATCHED THE GOOD ONE.  Oh Joy!
One small move and I feel like myself again.  I had been trying day in, day out and not a thing.  Ive had my days when I have cooked and cleaned and then am laid flat with pain the next.  So slowly but surely I have learned to pace myself.  BUT oh I long to run, to dance to ... you know what I mean!

So here I am, happy to chat again.  Look forward to hearing your news
x Sheri L
skiing injury 16 mar 06,
 unhappy triad,
acl healing response repair 3 May 06

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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2006, 01:55:16 PM »
Sheri!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS IT'S OVER!!!! :)

Oh my gosh, I'm sooo glad you're okay and back fighting. :) So, you had the acl repair? That's cool! Lucky for you, I think you'll have a quicker recovery then for sure. My problem to date is with the one screw they used to secure one end of my new graft. But I'm grateful it's bioabsorbable and the pain has been disappearing each day.

I was lucky, I didn't get the pukes (throwing up), but I felt pretty crummy the first couple of days working that anesthesia out. Getting up and going to the batroom was the most difficult for me. I dont know how others do it and not complain. It was darn difficult just to keep that leg straight. I almost didn't want to drink anything because I hated to get up.

Like you, I am making small gains each day. I'm back to cleaning a bit and cooking too. Dressing and bathing my little ones. It's hard still though. Like you I can go for awhile but then the pain (I call them medial tweaks) make me feel like I should rest. I guess it's kinda good in a way, or else we'd be driving ourselves into the ground once again.

I have until June 7th (I think that's the date of my next appt.) to wear my HORRID brace. I know, I hate it sooo much too. I am riding my stationary bike and exercising and trying to get stronger too.

I started a diary if but it's pretty long and boring. But if you want to post comments regarding your progress there please do! There are 2 other people, DMCRONIN and ALLSTARDIVA who had surgery the same day or around that day also. It's been fun comparing notes and encouraging each other.

I was a while in recovery too. Didn't know it though either. Well, at least the very worst of it is over. Talk to you soon. I'm soooo happy your back! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: May 22, 2006, 01:59:22 PM by celinenj03 »
Terrible Triad - 1/16/06 - Basketball
3/15/06 - Scope/Cleanout of to achieve full ROM
5/3/06 - Surgery-ACL Reconstruction-Allograft
9/12/07 - Large Loose body removed;Grade 4 Lesion on LFC
9/17/08-Microfracture, Lateral Release (all right knee)

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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2006, 06:10:19 PM »
Celine.... oh good... wonderful to hear from u.  I am ashamed I left it for so long.

Hats off to u for doing bathtime.  I remember it well.  My two will be 14 and 19 next month... now its just a case of keepng the fridge stocked!

You have had a lots worse done to you than I have ... I have had a healing response repair so no exercise bike or anything yet for me.  I was so pleased to read another thread with a query about flying with a brace.  By the end of the month the big exodus out of here for the summer begins.  And this is the first for many a year that I dont have any plans because I have been wondering how I will manage.  But having read all the good advice I now feel much better.  Only thing is I will have to wean myself off the security of my lovely PT.... and find a replacement for the weeks I am away or just try and get on with it myself. I need to be up and ruinning (pun) by September for the new school year.  It all seems so far away and yet so scary.

Well its late and I am waffling so I will end - look forward to hearing from you... how do I find the diary?
x Sheri L

skiing injury 16 mar 06,
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acl healing response repair 3 May 06

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Re: Unhappy triad - help!
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2006, 08:33:26 PM »
I'd say chances are very very good you'll be in good shape by September. We are vacationing later this year (waiting for Miss Knee to heal) and going late August. I"m sure will still have some residual issues but at least will be able to enjoy and hopefully not still be icing by then!
Terrible Triad - 1/16/06 - Basketball
3/15/06 - Scope/Cleanout of to achieve full ROM
5/3/06 - Surgery-ACL Reconstruction-Allograft
9/12/07 - Large Loose body removed;Grade 4 Lesion on LFC
9/17/08-Microfracture, Lateral Release (all right knee)