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Offline Linda

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Re: Skiing injury
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2003, 09:35:46 PM »
Hi there,

You have the same symptoms as I did. I did not have an accident though. Mine turned out to be Cartilage (not Meniscus) damage. I broke a hunk of it off. Of course those symptoms could mean a whole load of stuff. My MRI only showed effusion. I would go for another opinion. Your swelling should have subsided by now. Mine never did go away. I have the least I have had since hurting my knee now after my surgery.

Keep us posted, and good luck!
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Re: Skiing injury
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2003, 04:32:23 PM »
Hi All,

Went to the Dr yesterday and got an injection because the swelling in my knee has not gone away yet.  It was Celestone and Lidocane....Anyway, it hurt alot and my knee is still swollen.  I guess I should give it a little more time.  I'm just concerned about it being swollen for 10 wks now.  The swelling should have gone down by now.  Dr thinks it's still my MCL.  He says I can't straighten it fully because my MCL attached itself to something in my knee, or something to that effect.  What he doesn't get is that it has been like that since I hurt it, Dec 17.   My MRI looked pretty good, except for my MCL, but I just have this feeling that it's something else.  It pops and cracks alot.  Swells above my kneecap and from the center of my knee to the medial side, usually.  Sometimes my whole knee swells.  My IT band is always super tight and tingles, and my hamstring tendon is always super tight...Any Ideas?

Thanks Linda for responding!

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Re: Skiing injury
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2003, 06:47:09 PM »
Hi,

I hope the injection helps. I also hope that you did not damage your cartilage along with the MCL. You do have the same symptoms as I did though, but as I said before, lots of things can cause those symptoms.

When do you see the OS again. Have you considered another opinion yet?

I will be wishing you the best of luck, and watching for your updates.
Linda
LR and Chondrplasty 1/22/02, Clean-up, Chondroplasty and biopsy 6/4/02, AC Implant 11/6/02, Micro fracture and adhesion clean up 8/12/03

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Re: Skiing injury
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2003, 08:00:10 PM »
Hi bubby, sorry you're not doing any better. Your symptoms sound a little like mine too and I had to wait 15 months to get anything done because of workers comp red tape. Do you think you have done all you can and you need a surgeon to have a look inside? Think about a second opinion, and do you like and trust the orthopedic surgeon you are seeing? If not keep looking till you find one you like. Theresa
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Re: Skiing injury
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2003, 01:33:46 AM »
Bubby, If you still have swelling and pain ten weeks or more out I would definitely get some fresh medical advice.  

Try a new GP first, then get him/her to get you in front of a new OS.  I just can't see as how your current therapist is treating you seriously.  

I'm amazed that you haven't been shuffled off to a psychiatrist for imagining the whole [email protected] thing yet by the cl#wn you've been dealing with!  

Seriously, I would not put up with the level of incompetence that you have suffered to this point, something would have got seriously busted!

I'm not about to try to diagnose what happened or the degree of recovery that you have made largely through your own efforts and in spite of the "best" efforts of the quacks you have been victim to.  Change doctors, at the rush!
I'm a grumpy old bear with a busted knee.  The growling you hear is my tummy rumbling!

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Re: Skiing injury
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2003, 01:16:50 AM »
Hey Bubby,

How are you?

Linda
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Re: Skiing injury
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2003, 04:17:43 PM »
Hi Linda,

I'm okay.  Swelling has come down a little.  Just depends if I'm on it alot.  Not gone though.  Still hurts, especially if I do any bending and weight bearing at the same time.  Still hurts to straighten too.  Some shot....I wonder if it did anything, other than just take the edge off the pain.  Still doing PT.  3x a wk for 4 more weeks...I see the Dr 3/13.  I wonder what he will do next.....

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Re: Skiing injury
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2003, 04:54:23 PM »
Things don't sound right. The noises on first injury, the continued swelling and the failure to regain full extension are all worrying. Perhaps you should consider a second opinion?
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Re: Skiing injury
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2003, 11:17:49 AM »
Dear bubbly79
I am really concerned about your knee and  want to summarise the situation and make some suggestions:

17th Dec 2002
Ski fall. 3 popping noises. Intense pain. Immediate swelling, which continued.
Treatment - rest, query ice and elevation

19th December 2002
Still painful. Unable to bear weight. Giving way. Limited range of motion (ROM). Swelling more localised (behind the knee and on medial side)
X-rays - no fracture
Treatment - rest. query immobiliser, ice, maybe elevation

15th January 2003
Still pain, swelling and instability
Some new neurological and vascular symptoms
MRI - 'a little arthritis'
Treatment - still no specialist opinion or management

20th January
Saw orthopaedic surgeon. Diagnosis query sprain of medial collateral ligament (MCL)
Repeat of X-ray - query diminised joint space on medial side
MRI - possible meniscus tear

February 27th
Still major problems, much as before

March 25th
I am sorry that I did not spot this dialogue earlier. There are a number of things which worry me here.
1. Loud noises are often associated with ruptured ligaments or meniscus. The fact that you were skiing where the torque can be high, the immediate intense pain and swelling and giving way is highly suggestive of a ligament tear, or a ruptured meniscus.
2. Your symptoms carried on with some intensity, despite reassurance that you did not have a fracture.  This again suggests some relatively severe internal derangement.
3. The neurovascular symptoms, and the feelings of instability, are possible indicators of internal derangement with movement inside the knee where it should be stable.
4. X-rays and MRI scans are of course useful, but the story and the clinical picture are often more likely to lead to a diagnosis.

I think, despite the clinical help you have been given, that you should do a lot of reading about meniscus tears and cruciate ligament tears (ACL and PCL) and determine if you are comfortable with the assessments you have been given. MCL tears alone can lead to instability, but the initial picture still suggests to me that there may be internal damage here.

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