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Offline hockeygirl4

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Need help from you experts...
« on: December 16, 2005, 05:08:55 PM »
Ok, so here is the history:

1995 - HS Basketball, my teammate running behind me falls on my leg and my knee pounds into the floor. Immense pain and instability immediately.  Went to my Primary care physician and they took xrays which were negative and did nothing further, saying it was a bad bruise or a sprain.  Pain on the inside of my knee and in the back.  I sit out a week and am back 2 weeks later wearing a brace which works fine.

1997 - College Softball, playing catcher, blocking home plate, throw comes in to the right and my leg is fully extended to the left.  The runner does not slide and nails me full force right into my knee. The side of my knee and the back of my knee feels on fire. They elevate my knee on the bench by putting bags under my foot but my knee feels like it's going to snap in two! I go to the PCP the next day, they xray, negative again, and again say it's a bad sprain.  At the time of the injury, i was working out in a physical therapy center, the guys there looked at my knee and did some light exams, one of which made my knee pop but there was no pain..it felt really good actually.  They said i should request an MRI...asked my doctor about it and she said, it's not necessary jsut wear the immobilizer and then get a brace with the metal brackets on the side. Did this and used the crutches for about a month, after that, i was still very unstable and limping around.  Every time i would trip over something, it felt like someone stabbed me in the inside of my knee. Unstable still for about 5 months after that. Saw a specialist and he did the light twisting exams and pulling on my knee but still said nothing was wrong, just a bad sprain...

2003 - After enduring years of pain in my knee and tolerating it, I go to a new primary care doctor and she sends me to a knee specialist.  He does the xray, still negative...and sends me for an MRI.  Get the results back and the report said it's totally normal, however, he looks at the films, does the twisting and pulling tests and says, my PCL is completely torn, my ACL is very loose, and my MCL could be damaged. Suggests PT 3 times a week for 3 weeks. At the time, I did not have the money and did not go.  Also, thinking because I'm so active, (Play ice hockey, softball 3 times a week in summer, basketball, volleyball, and work out at the gym 2-3 times a week when I'm not playing softball), why would they send me for therapy?? I just didn't think spending 20.00 per session 3 times a week was worth it, when personally, i know something is definitely wrong with my knee.

2005 - Two weeks ago to be exact, playing ice hockey, trying to go around a defender and i go knee to knee with her.  Didn't hurt much at the time, but throughout the game, it got progressively worse to the point where stepping on and off the ice brought a burning sensation behind my kneecap.  I was in tears by the end of the game and still had to drive home 3 hours!! No instability at all though.  Went to my PCP and she is sending me to a specialist in January. 

So what do you think? I know someone out there has had these feelings/symptoms and injuries just like me but I just want my knee fixed! I'm so sick of walking and it totally giving out on me, tired of it locking up when i'm running, tired of having to crack it just before i go to sleep each night, otherwise it will feel cramped up.

Thanks for taking the time to read this if you do.....
Grade I/II PCL tear - conservative treatment and stabilizing brace for sports

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Re: Need help from you experts...
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2005, 02:55:13 PM »
sounds like you've got some instability issues. and pain(?) Ignore knee injuries at your own peril.

my suggestion is not to ignore these symptoms and get to see a knee expert (buy some insurance first!).  One who does many ACL/PCL surgeries. 

Have him review your first MRI and listen to what he says. Knee instability is a bad thing in the long term. You don't want meniscus problems in the future.

spend some time on this site: http://orthoassociates.com/Sports_Topics1.htm#topics

here's another: http://steadman-hawkins.com/acl/overview.asp

good luck, keep posting

torn RK ACL March 2001, surgery Aug. 14 2006, after 4 knee sprains since Oct. '05.  Allograft, ~40% medial meniscus removed, some wear in the trochlear groove. Everything else looks good.

Post-op diary: http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=29749.

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Re: Need help from you experts...
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2005, 05:16:19 PM »
Thanks for the response, yes I've been dealing with pain in my knee for years but the doctors have seemed to ignore it and blow it off like I'm a hypochondriac or something thus making me feel like a wimp when I go to the doctor. I've learned to just deal with the pain for years and only go when the pain is something much more than what I normally experience. 

I have an appointment with an OS on Jan 24th who has done knee surgeries for many pro athletes so we'll see what he says/suggests.   
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Re: Need help from you experts...
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2005, 05:28:49 PM »
I see your last MRI was in 2003. You probably will need a new one. Not that they're 1000% accurate but, they're good for diagnostics.

Also, here's a book I found to be helpful. See if you can find it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446678198/qid=1135185967/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-8002501-3245457?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

good luck
torn RK ACL March 2001, surgery Aug. 14 2006, after 4 knee sprains since Oct. '05.  Allograft, ~40% medial meniscus removed, some wear in the trochlear groove. Everything else looks good.

Post-op diary: http://www.kneeguru.co.uk/KNEEtalk/index.php?topic=29749.

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Re: Need help from you experts...
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2005, 09:41:23 PM »
PT is always the first place to start especially as its non invasive, If I could have just done PT and not had surgery you would have, and its definitely worth the money espeically as your so active.

Thats just words of experience.

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Re: Need help from you experts...
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2005, 01:27:20 PM »
I guess I'm just confused as to why they would recommend PT since the injury is more than 8 years old?  Don't get me wrong, from reading these posts, sometimes surgery is not always the best option and sometimes you don't return to normal so if I can avoid major surgery, that would be great.  On the other hand, if they recommend PT for say 3 weeks like they did before, and I go and do it, is that going to "cure" my knee forever?  I'm just not understanding this.  I think I'm a lost cause!!! :-[
Grade I/II PCL tear - conservative treatment and stabilizing brace for sports

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Re: Need help from you experts...
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2005, 04:59:18 PM »
It doesn't matter how old the injury is I've been in PT for over 12 years and I'm still doing it now for a problem that till septrmber hadn't been corrected. PT builds things up and changes the way your brain works, getting muscles to fire at correct times and in the correct order. It also as i am finding is helping to break old habits, which die hard and the way you think.

Don't mean to sound harsh.

Good luck with your decisions.

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Trauma - Dislocation '96
Chondromalacia, PFS '01
Shallow trochlear groove, Patella Alta & tight ITB dx '03
Right Modified Galeazzi, LR and scope 2004
Left Modified Galeazzi, LR  2005
Redo Modified Galeazzi, LR and scope and medial reefing 2007
Right redislocation 2014

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Re: Need help from you experts...
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2005, 05:14:01 PM »
No not at all, I need a lot of advice, that's why I'm here.  I just want to get back to playing hockey and all my other sports at 100% so I am going to do whatever is necessary to achieve that.

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