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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #360 on: May 02, 2007, 05:36:07 AM »


my knee test i passed with just a small deficit in power in my injured leg...nothing to bad as im only 7 months post acl surgery. my foot on the other hand was much weaker then the right. my inversion was about 40 percent weaker in the left......eversion about 60.....dorsi flexion 80 but my plantar flexion in the left was 50 percent sronger then the right ......i was told this was my body compensating for the weaker dorsi flexion...as i use ..my push off and momentum to spring my foot up with the weak "tib ant" muscle. these test were all done under load and with endurance repitions of 20-30...and endurance was stable for the ankle just a strength comparison issue. i am still working hard to correct every aspect of this injury to the best of my ability....but it is functional and capable of handling the demand of high intensity sport.

i will keep you posted on the draft. Keep recovering  Everyone

and i have posted a segment that will be aired on The Score about the injury for draft time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-10DQiu0Hw

Thank you everyone for all of your sweet personal messages!  My family and I are doing well.

My daughter had about a week of more consistent dragons, but they have taken a break the last few days.

We have another EMG on May 10th so I'm trying to be calm and hopeful.

Andre, this is interesting how your other muscles are "compensating" for your lack of dorsiflexion.  I'm not sure if my daughter has something similar.  When she walks without her brace she still "flops her foot" but she can maintain balance, etc.

Jacky, Max, Hamish, Amanda, Gordon, et. al, good luck to all of you!




hEY mOM444

i used to do the same thing whn my brace was off and found myself walking on my toes(left foot only) so it wouldnt flop. i was told not to do this..but i would do it insticntively.i think alot of it had to do with not being able to sense the bottoms of my feet well enough to balance ..so my toes(which i could feel..except for the big toe) gave me a better sense of space around me and stability. do you find her using her plantar flexion more often ?
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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #361 on: May 02, 2007, 12:50:33 PM »
Hey Guys,

Goodluck with the draft Andre! It is amazing how well you have done and you must be so excited. I have also done the tiptoe walking mainly so I knew I wouldn't trip over my toes when walking.

Jackie, I to have never used an EMS machine for much the same reason that the PT at the hospital don't have/can't afford one. I will have to look into how much one costs to see whether I can get one for myself. I will do anything to aid the recovery and if this will help I will try it unless the cost is prohibitive.

Amanda. I think we can be forgiven for those little moments when we feel down. Keep your head up and all the hard work will be worth it in the end.

Max and Gordon, keep things going!

Me, I'm still working away and knee getting stronger all the time and that has been my focus over the last couple of months. I was on my feet for most of the day yesterday and OMG my ankle was hurting. No movement yet with the foot but feeling positive. Heading off to the gym now.

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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #362 on: May 02, 2007, 03:23:30 PM »
Hello all

Mom - Good luck for your daughters EMG on the 10th, I have just got my date and have one on the 16th.  Am really nervous, not about the test but about the results.  Fingers crossed we both get some good news, I will be thinking of your little girl on the 10th.

Hamish, Max & Gordon - hope everything is going well for you and keep your spirits up.
 j_smi001 - Hope your operation goes well.

Had a bad day yesterday and this morning didn't want to get myself organised, but made myself get myself and my little girl dressed and took her to dance to music, it is for little ones.  Felt heaps better afterwards, have to remember life dosent revolve around me and my floppy foot I have others to think about.

Will keep you posted on my EMG results.
Amanda

Amanda,  thanks for the well wishes.  Good luck on your EMG also.  We'll be praying for you too.

Andre,  I'm not sure if she uses extra plantar flexion when she walks.  What I've noticed that she does do often is that she lots of times prefers to RUN rather than walk.  When she skips or runs I think it offsets the floppy foot.  Again, she is almost four now however still so young and it's hard to get her to talk about what she feels.  It's difficult interpreting her sometimes.

Jacky,  hope you are doing well with your treatment and recovery.

Gordon, Hamish, Max, et al., hang in there.  We're thinking about you.

Also, I LOVE Canada!  We live right near the border.  It would be cool if some day we could all meet for a recovery party. 

Maybe near the Falls?  On the Canadian side, of course! 
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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #363 on: May 04, 2007, 01:04:37 AM »
HEY ALL,

after an almost heart breaking day things worked out for the best....the long awaited draft took place yesterday at 1:00pm and i was predicted to go in the 3-4 round out of 6. as i waited names were being called and none of them were mine.after all six rounds i did not get selected. Then it was brought to my attention that we have a waiver draft.....something like a draft extension for teams to solidify one more player....and i was chosen by my home town the Toronto Argos. the deal went through last night and was officical at 12am..i sign sometime within the next couple of days. This is Truly a blessing and i am face to face with the hardest hurdle of making the team believe that i am very capable of playing pro and that i m just as good if not better then there"healthy" players in my position.


Just wanted to let yall in on the great news....and mom444 meeting up would be a great idea...im game.

Andre
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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #364 on: May 04, 2007, 03:58:22 AM »
Andre, I got home from work yesterday after listening to the draft on the radio (and not hearing your name mentioned) and I ran to the computer to the CFL web site to see if you were called.  Needless to say I was disappointed to not see your name on any of the six rounds.  I was going to write something last night, but wasn't sure what to write.  However, seeing your message tonight was awesome!  Dude, to be spoken for by the Argo's after what you've been through is great, almost too good to be true!  (Maybe you can take Ricky Williams spot...not hard to beat those numbers).  You've worked harder than anyone I've ever known, so it bodes well for you and has finally paid off.  I know you'll go to the show, just have faith and keep workiing like you always do and it will be inevitable.   I'm so proud of you and even prouder to say that I'm an aquaintance of yours.  You continue to inspire me everyday.

Everyone, this is big news here in Canada, especially in the realm of pro sports up here.  Congratualtions again Andre and kick some butt.

-Max-   

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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #365 on: May 04, 2007, 04:11:47 AM »
Andre,

Let us know if you are ever on Canadian TV.  I can pick up the Canadian and TO news where I am.



Mother of a now six year old daughter with unexplained peroneal neuropathy/injury to the peroneal nerve resulting in footdrop.  Had surgery 7-06 including neurolysis to remove scar tissue/neuroma.  Wears AFO wtih dorsiflextion assist and is using EMG triggered biofeedback and TES awaiting recovery.

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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #366 on: May 04, 2007, 04:32:47 PM »
Well done Andre, but in my mind never in any doubt - you are so cool and set the standard for us all to make the grade in our own ways.  I am particularly pleased as my trip to Canada is looking more likely now - just need to get through round two and I'll be there - actually on that point when is the football season?  I promise to look up about the game whilst recuperating, I have no excuses as I will in incapacitated for a few weeks.  My Granddad was a Canadian but died when I was 9 so didn't really get to know him so it will be good to go Canada to seek out my roots.  Just going to carry on panicking now..................
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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #367 on: May 06, 2007, 03:57:40 AM »
Hey All,

I have no idea if this is something to be excited about or not but...  MY DAUGHTER CAN MOVE HER BIG TOE.  She may even be able to kind of move some of the other toes on her left foot also.

I honestly can't remember exactly if she had ever lost the ability to move her toes on her left foot, but I think she may have. 

This is strange...  But tonight after doing her EMS therapy my husband and I noticed that she was able to wiggle her big toe.  We almost didn't believe it so we told her, "Wait!  Do that again!"  Sure enough the big toe and possibly some of the others moved.

So...  I have taken a break from frantically researching, but does anyone know if this is a good sign?  I know that some of you had before mentioned that even after getting some dorsiflexion back that you still could not move your big toe.  Mind you, that as of now my daughter still has not gained back any noticable dorsiflexion but the big toe can move.  Again...  This is so strange.

I had a wonderful printout that I had gotten off the Web that showed in detail all of the muscles that control dorsiflexion and it showed also the muscles that control the toes, etc.  I lost the printout and I can't find the Website again!   :(

So...  I'm just really confused.  Should I be excited?  Is it something related or unrelated to recovery? 

I hope you all are well.
Mother of a now six year old daughter with unexplained peroneal neuropathy/injury to the peroneal nerve resulting in footdrop.  Had surgery 7-06 including neurolysis to remove scar tissue/neuroma.  Wears AFO wtih dorsiflextion assist and is using EMG triggered biofeedback and TES awaiting recovery.

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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #368 on: May 09, 2007, 01:05:20 AM »
Amdre, Congratulations on your remarkable recovery and on the football draft.  I'm 6'5", 240 and had surgery to remove an osteochondroma (a tumor) off my growth plate. I'm 17 and had this growth since 2000.  I was told that since it wasn't bothering me that I should just leave it alone, but that it could develop into cancer later on in life, but if they took it off too soon that it would just grow back again as I grew. Back on 3/8/08 I decided to get it taken off before my senior year of football to get get it out of the way, little did I know that I would end up with drop foot.  I am currently being recruiited by Division One colleges and I am worried that no one will give me a chance now.  I have peroneal motor nerve injury and have all feeling in my foot and leg and no pain, but I am not able to lift my foot. I can move my toes and move my ankle back and forth and also push down with all my strength and have now had two nerve test done four weeks a part the only difference is that he was able to get a small reading from my foot motor muscle, which is better than nothing. One specialist wants to do another surgery, but I don't want another one. I run two miles a day and lift weights every day and also play basketball. I can put full weight on my foot with no problem, but I just can't lift my foot. Doctors don't know everything and I am going to prove to everyone that I can do it. I'm not missing my senior year. I just wanted to let you know that you inspired me and everyone else on this board. I'll keep you informed of my progress. I know of an almighty physican known as Jesus Christ and he can heal me completely. Keep the Faith!!There is a reason for everything and I plan on using this injury to make others on my team work harder.  If I can do it they can work harder. Good Luck to everyone and don't ever give up hope. I'm not.

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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #369 on: May 09, 2007, 03:33:24 AM »
AWESOME NEWS MOM444!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is an amazing sign of regeneration....i am so happy to hear the good news!!!!!!!!

for more info on my experience with regeneration.....i was looking at my foot and saw my toe twitch. i thought it was the ability to move my toe(which i cant do) and eventually progressed into dorsiflexion. so maybe it is toe movement or it may be dorsi flexion. the thing i read about the toes is that the extensor hallicous longus muscle is kind of deep and strengthening and nerve regeneration is hard to do because ou cant treat the atrophied muscle due to its location. i have a feeling your toe movement is DF and once your daugther gets her Dorsiflexion back we need to send her some recovery GIFTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP US POSTED AS U ALWAYS DO.

Hey Footballcrazy

good to see that you have the right mind for approaching this situation...and i dont mean just wanting to play ..i mean...wanting to get better...you have a healthy mind for this and that alone will take you far in recovery "easy" part. teams also want to see how bad you want to play...how you handle adversity...and mainly how you recovery from injury since 99.9% of football players get injured.....so you recovering from something like this..to me ...is a positive ...and shows health and stability in the mind and thats what they pay you for. anyone can play ball...not eveyone can handle it...i know you can....keep working hard and keep me posted.
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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #370 on: May 09, 2007, 04:44:45 PM »
AWESOME NEWS MOM444!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is an amazing sign of regeneration....i am so happy to hear the good news!!!!!!!!

for more info on my experience with regeneration.....i was looking at my foot and saw my toe twitch. i thought it was the ability to move my toe(which i cant do) and eventually progressed into dorsiflexion. so maybe it is toe movement or it may be dorsi flexion. the thing i read about the toes is that the extensor hallicous longus muscle is kind of deep and strengthening and nerve regeneration is hard to do because ou cant treat the atrophied muscle due to its location. i have a feeling your toe movement is DF and once your daugther gets her Dorsiflexion back we need to send her some recovery GIFTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP US POSTED AS U ALWAYS DO.

at they pay you for. anyone can play ball...not eveyone can handle it...i know you can....keep working hard and keep me posted.

Welcome to the forum footballcrazy!  We wish you the best!  Please let us know how your recovery is going!

Andre,

I hope you are right about the toe.  You said you have kids so I'm sure you know how feisty and non cooperative kids can be  ;)

Sometimes when we ask her to move her toe, she claims she can't.  Other times, she looks like she might be pushing the other toes around the big toe downward to make it look like an optical illusion where the big toe is moving.  Yet other times it does look like the big toe is in fact moving.  My mother in law claims she saw my daughter's toe move also.

Well we have the next EMG tomorrow and I am just trying to not think about it or get too worried.  The last EMG was in February so about three months ago.  Remember how the rehab doctor was kind of negative and alarming with us?  He claimed that she had some recovery but "not enough" in his eyes.  He also said that if she did not get significant recovery in the next few months that he thought she'd never get better?  He is also the doctor who claimed that her scar tissue was so bad that we'd have to rush her into another surgery, and he was wrong there.

With all the "dragons" she's had in the past few months, I certainily hope that some more improvement is seen.  Also, didn't you also say that after nine months some doctors clamed you'd never get better but you still did?

Jacky,

If you are out there, how have you been lately? Are you still recovering?  I know that you said part of your recovery also seemed to start with a toe or two?

Blessings and best to everyone.
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« Reply #371 on: May 10, 2007, 12:25:15 PM »
Hello All,
Sorry mom444 - I am about, well for today at least as tomorrow I go in to hospital have my other leg done.  I will update as soon as possible but it did take about a week before i felt with it enough to post.  Even if not around I will be thinking of you all.  I am positive that the toe movement is a good sign.  I do have big toe movement although that was the last one to come back - I first had my little toe (which was very active) then the others slowly joined in, then a bit of flicking of the foot and the the big toe last. 
Welcome to footballcrazy, you have joined a very inspirational and supportive thread that will try to answer any questions through our own experiences.  Take care all - see you in about a weeks time xx
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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #372 on: May 10, 2007, 04:53:02 PM »
Well done Andre I am so happy for you! You will be a great success.

Goodluck with the surgery Jackie we will all be thinking of you and let us know as soon as you can that you are ok.

Welcome aboard footballcrazy to our happy band of floppy footers and those that have recovered. Hang in there and work hard you have a great attitude.

Things with me are going well and my knee is improving all the time and I am managing to do more and more. I am detecting a hint of movement outwards with my foot (I think) and a slightly different sensation in my foot (sort of warm tingle) after finishing my workout at the gym today but not getting too excited. See my PT tomorrow so will see what she thinks.

Will have to add Toronto Argos to the list of teams I support.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Hamish 
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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #373 on: May 10, 2007, 09:36:05 PM »
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRAYERS!

My daughter had another EMG today.  I made my husband take her because I knew I'd be sick to my stomach...  I was.  While I waited I paced the floor, prayed, and nearly threw up.

Well, it turns out that the EMG SHOWS SOME MORE RECOVERY!  The rehab medicine doctor also said that there's toe movement and that there may be some more innervation in the muscles.  Now mind you that there is still no obvious dorsiflexion but there is in fact some of what he called "progress."

So this is great!  I really believe that all of your prayers helped.  The dragons were so consistent for a few weeks and that most likely was the regeneration.  Now the dragons have not been around for a week and a half now, but many of you have said that they do in fact take "breaks" now and then.

So, I am a little more relieved now.  We are still not out of the woods entirely, there is still more healing and rehabbing to do...

But I feel so much better!

I hope all of you are also doing well and making progress!
Mother of a now six year old daughter with unexplained peroneal neuropathy/injury to the peroneal nerve resulting in footdrop.  Had surgery 7-06 including neurolysis to remove scar tissue/neuroma.  Wears AFO wtih dorsiflextion assist and is using EMG triggered biofeedback and TES awaiting recovery.

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Re: Any Peroneal Nerve recovery stories?
« Reply #374 on: May 10, 2007, 09:48:29 PM »
Mom 444
That is wonderful news am so happy for you.  I bet you slept well last night.
Hamish - Good news all around for you, you are doing wonderful
j_smi001  - Good luck for your op today, am sure you will breeze through it
footballcrazy - welcome aboard

Am hoping someone can help me out?  I had a terrible day yesterday had to travel to two medical appointments and both I felt were a waste of time and have left me feeling depressed.  The first was to have new walking splint fitted ( a toe of) and a night splint as I have never had one.  I have been waiting 9 weeks, they finally rang to say they had arrived but when I got there the wrong night splint had been sent and the toe of splint was no were to be seen.  Can any one tell me what sort of night resting splint they use?  They send me home with one but I had to take it of last night as the straps across the foot had to be done up so tight to make the heel sit in and after 4 hours I had enough and took it of?
My second appointment was with the pain team who told me that nerve pain is the worst pain to try and control - well we all knew that one.  He has played around with my meds a bit but dosent feel it is going to help much.  He told me that in his experience if you have nerve damage that includes motor loss and sensory loss as I do that the chances  of recovery are next to nothing.  Can anyone pass on any information regarding this comment from the doctor.

Sorry to sound depressing and negative - feeling like had enough ready to give up
Thanks Amanda