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Offline saiani

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Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« on: May 27, 2005, 09:21:06 PM »
Is anyone out there using the BIO-100 System? if so can you tell me anything of your results, I have been using it for one week now.

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2005, 12:13:46 AM »
Hi,

I found this info on this system, but have not heard about it before.  It sounds very interesting.  How have you been finding it?  Has it been helping you?

http://www.bionicare.com/cp-usingbionicare.php

Good luck,

Shade

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2005, 02:17:46 AM »
Well I have been using it for one week, 12 hours a day, and I honestly don't know. My knee pain is much less, so much less that I am not using the one crutch anymore, but I also finished the three shot gell injections about three weeks ago, and I'm not sure if it isn't just now starting to work. I will continue to use the the Bio 1000 to see if the knee continues to get better, then I will know for sure it is dong something.


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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2005, 10:39:56 AM »
Renny,

Hey, the good news is that you are finally getting pain relief.  No matter what the reason. 

Wow, that is really good news. 

Good luck,

Shade

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2005, 03:59:04 AM »
A couple months ago, I went to a two-hour information session at my health club that pertained to this machine.  Because the speakers (orthopedic specialists) were also partners on the business end, I refrained from getting too excited about the machine and it's possiblities.  However, it did sound quite interesting.  In short, the science is that it "helps the body 'naturally produce' hyaluric acid" through the use of a proprietary utilization of electro-stimulation.  In turn, this is supposed to help the knee rebuild cartilage.  In addition to anectodal evidence, the lecturers showed X-rays taken before and after six months of use (6 hours a day ~ at night).  The patient did appear to rebuild some cartilage and it appears to be best for osteo-arthritis versus general patello-femoral pain.

That's my two cents...

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2005, 02:15:03 PM »
I have been on it for about two weeks now so it is hard to believe it is doing anything yet, I think my knee is feeling better because the injections are starting to kick in. They now want you to wear it 10 - 12 hours a day, it is really hard to sleep in it, it's a real pain. I only signed up to use it for 4 months, at $37 a month on a special offer, they still can't tell me if insurance will cover any of it.

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2005, 04:31:17 PM »
Does the device require a prescription, or do you just order it? IF it requires a script, then insurance should cover it. I am interested,as if it is being promoted as self help, I would be more hesitant to use something the physcian had not prescribed or looked over. Teresa
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Arthroscopes Left 11 Right 2, MRSA, L TKR  ,  Revision, LR x5, Medial and lateral meniscus repair, Broken prosthesis
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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2005, 01:34:49 PM »
As far as I know it requires a precription, mine did. It is costing me $37 a month for 4 months and then the price goes up to $90 a month if you want to keep on it, thats when you would really need insurance.  Here is a couple of numbers you can call for the information you might want, 1-866_BIO-KNEE or in the Dallas area 214-914-5123. I think that one of the reasons insurance may not cover it yet is that the trials were completed using animals not humans. I think the human trials are under way, thats what I think, I not sure about it.

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2005, 01:37:07 PM »
I forgot there is also a web site, www.bioicare.com

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2005, 10:16:49 PM »
So, what is the difference between this and a TENS unit? I use a TENS unit for pain control when I need to, but I have never heard of that being able to help cartlige?
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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2005, 10:43:30 PM »
They claim that over time, 4 months and more , thru electric stimulation it will deliver more pain relief than anti-inflammatory drugs and will also stimulate some cartlige growth. It's only been trial tested on rabbits as far as I know. I don't know anything about the Tens.

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2005, 02:57:29 AM »
I had 40-50% of the meniscus, all the anterior lateral removed one month ago. The arthritic aspect was far less than they expected. My OA is described on the x-ray as "mild". After this surgery, walking over a half-hour is a bit aggravating. I fear increased OA and sought alternatives. The transplant at age 52, does not appear to be a good alternative.
At a medical conference, I saw the Bionicare reps. tomorrow, I hope to have my ortho write a Rx and give it a trial.
Why is it uncomfortable at night? Do you see yourself wearing it during the day? Would you advise getting the AloeVera gel initially to prevent the 1% side effect of skin rash?
My understanding was $37 for a few months while they work on insurances. If denied, then you can buy at $370/mo  or $4400. Not sure if they are charging interest. the company is now closed to new investors. Bill Bradley is a key investor. they hope to go public next year.

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2005, 02:28:19 AM »
Aren't there more Bio-1000 users out there? What has been your experience?
Of the man who was using it, are you still, how is your results?
I'm still considering it. Ortho will write the Rx, but will not support any insurance reimbursement of the $4400 costs. Can you pay this over time without interest?

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2005, 02:59:35 PM »
I have been using this for about 6 weeks now. I have not seen any improvement in my pain or mobility, and acutally have lost motion and increased pain. I want to give it a full trial period to see if it is going to work, but if I had to make the decision now I would not purchase it. I hoave found it very uncomfortable to wear because it bunches up in the back of my knee and causes pain, so I have attached the pads to a ted hose and wear that at night instead of the black wrap that has helped.
99 ACL, med, lat men repair
00 Med menisectomy, lat men repair
01 med, lat meniscus transplant, ACL rev, LR
01 chrondroplasty, manip & debrid
02 med, lat partial menisectomy
03 Arthrotomy,  LOA, LR
05 chrondroplasty, lat men repair, shrink ACL
05  med menisectomy, chrondropla
05 med PKR

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Re: Bionicare Bio-1000 System
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2005, 11:50:08 PM »
thanks Pegleg for the feedback. Not sure I'll buy it. I had a lateral anterior horn meniscus removed about 40% of the total. The arthritis was not as bad as they thought it would be. the ortho replied, as to the bionicare regererating cartilage, "well, you don't have the cartilage to regererate". so maybe that's your problem, noting the surgeries. Will it work to stimulate if so much as been removed? I think you can try it for about a four month period, then the price increases or you buy it?
Any other bionicare users? Any updates?