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Offline heather k from wales

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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2005, 09:28:35 PM »
Thanks for the reply Stephanie.  What was the damage to your knee to have the PKR??
Im 33 years old.  I dont really know whether or not this would be the right way forward for me.
I had a sub-total medial menisectomy in 2001 and have had medial stabbing pains eversince.  Im absolutley convinced it is due to the menisectomy.  I have scattered degeneration in all 3 compartments and paramarginal osteophytes alongside the remains of the meniscus rim, but only minimal.

A few weeks back my physio said that if I were 70 years old my knee would be considered to be worn out....Im not exactly sure what that really meant ??? Was it a) be grateful Im not 70 :-\, b) it needs replacing now  :-[, or c) dunno what ???  Anyway, my OS then discharged me as he said surgically he is unable to help me any further :'(  (he doesnt do replacements)

I believe a meniscus transplant would be right for me to buy a bit of time, but my OS and physio dont believe it would be due to the low success rate and other problems going on in my knee which they cant fathem out. 
I use crutches for any distances and often get so much pain I cant weightbear.  I saw this thread and just thought maybe a PKR could possibly be a way forward.....I dont know ???

I have a holiday to USA later this month and was considering a 2nd opinion with an OS very familiar with meniscus transplant, seems as Im over there anyway, but after getting the quote from his secretary today, it has scared the life out of me.....the price makes my knee feel a whole lot better!! ha ha  :o
The MRI would be about $4000, X-Rays $1000, Consultation $500 and the operation IF needed $50,000.  Dont forget I need extra flights from my holiday destination to get to the hospital and accomodation etc......  All that for 5-10 years of less pain and only if it is a complete success!!!  :-[

Think on the bright side....I DO have a knee to moan about!! ::)

Thanks again,

Heather ;)
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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2005, 09:54:19 AM »
Hi Heather,

The expense of getting quality of life should outweight the pain, I have also read that if the knee pain, for which I have Bilat OA there is a potential of other health problems happening as times goes on,  if the knee problems are not fixed, so my biggest decision to go with the PKR's was so I do not end up in a worse situation than I am now. As possibly with others in the boardroom a wheelchair life would have been a future occurence without the replacements.

(for example).  Doctors say to patients try other means of healing or do something else other than replacement to extend the time line in the hope of doing replacements later in life,  but I feel this is my extension to my life (40 yrs) after the replacements, as I can then live a life without limping and walking pain movement, go back to work and play competition pool.

As for financial problems, I am lucky that I have health insurance that covers everything.

I have a question for u thou, that as with the problems that u have in all compartments of your knee I think you were talking about a PKR this may not be a good option because a PKR is only good for 1 compartment and perhaps a TKR is a possibility because it involves all the compartments.

Could u not find a good OS in UK and if u have health insurance it may be a better outcome and less expensive.

But it would not hurt to check with a 2nd OS opinion, because from my experience I went to 3 OS's as the first 2 said they were not able to do the operations because they only deal with elderly patients and not the young, (if I had've been older they would definatley operate) the 3rd OS is a specialist for the young OA and only operates on the young, because apparently the surgery techniques are different from the elderly to the young.

I know it is frustrating to find the right doctor for a solution, keep searching and u will find, lots of luck for the right answer.

BIG HUGS   :)

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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2005, 01:52:09 PM »
Almost two weeks post-op and I am doing some exercises at home and trying to regain ROM and muscle strength.  I still have a fair amount of pain from the surgery and defiantely some swelling that is restricting my ROM.  Otherwise doing fine!  I can actually walk up stair with no assistance!  Still pain free from the problem spot!!
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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2005, 02:32:36 PM »
Well done UofSpider,

Sounds terrific and doing all the daring moves on the stairs - lol    ;D

Keep up all the good work   :)

Lots of Hugs   :-*

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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2005, 02:55:08 AM »
Hey Stefanie how's things,

Now that u are nearly 12 months how has it been with the kids, are u able to get on the floor with them and play games etc, can u get back up on the floor, can u pick the kids up, was not sure with weights to handle like pushing a trolley of groceries (for which I have trouble pushing especially if there is a little hill ( incline) I just groan and struggle back to the car with bags if I cannot get a close parking spot.    ???

Have the kids noticed a big difference in their mum as with speed walking - lol    ;)

What other adventures have u found the PKR's have been so beneficial.  8)


Have a great day Stefanie and everyone in the boardroom. !!   ;D


Big Hugs

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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2005, 05:50:29 AM »
Hey JBL - shhhhhhhhh don't tell my OS, but yes I do occassionally get in the floor & play monopoly & read books with my kiddos!  It is tricky getting back up, but how I do it, is by scooting on my toosh up to the couch & using my arms to push myself up into a standing position....does that make sense?  I have only recently gotten brave enough to do that!

I can pick up my kids without any problem.  You're going to be so pleased with your outcome, I just know it!  I understand what you mean about pushing a trolley (we call it a basket) of groceries, especially up an incline.  It will improve.  I have absolutely NO pain going up & down stairs.  I used to have to go down one step at a time.  Step down with the left leg & then from a sideways positon, step down with the right leg, then so on & so forth.........again does that make sense?  It is hard to describe it in words.  I think most knee patients have a general idea of what I'm trying to say.

You had said that you struggle back to the car unless you have a close parking spot - do you not have handicapp parking?  That has been a blessing for me.  I still use my handicapp parking, because my OS highly recommends saving my PKR's for the inside of the store.  Hate to wear them out before I even get inside - ha!

My kids are missing the "old" mom - I can nearly catch them now!  ;D

Other adventures that have been beneficial............Well, I'll just use today for example!!!  Had a 10am baseball game with my youngest son.  Then I made a trip into town for a bit of shopping.  We live in a small community about 45 minutes from the next major city.  After 5 hours of shopping, in & out of the car & all that good stuff.  I had to come back home get my daughter ready, and we had 2 more baseball games.  My youngest son played again at 6pm & then my oldest played at 7:30pm.  We just finished giving everyone their bathes & I'm just now sitting down - I HAVE NO PAIN!!!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D   I am truly blessed & so incredibly thankful!!!

Big Hugs from Texas.....

~Stef  ;)
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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2005, 06:57:57 AM »
HEY STEF,

U GO GIRL,  UR THE BEST

This is fantastic news from someone been there and done that, I feel like anything is possible shopping for 5 hours, what I can look forward too, yahoo, my best at the moment is going to the supermarket 30 min leaning on a trolley, get the essentials and watching everyone speeding around me (should be speed limits - lol) while I try to get out of their way, and then that's it just got to go and sit down and get some energy back. Nearly had an embarrassment moment that my LK gave way in the supermarket isle and lucky a pillar was there that caught my fall, if it hadn't been there I would had knocked over all the cans on the shelves, this is my nightmare also especially carrying teas or coffee that my knee will give way.
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I understand the staircase problem, I am walking down sideways because it takes the pressure off the inside knees, no one taught me I just did it one day and felt it was much easier, but it is sooo slow also at one step at a time.

I do have a disablity parking card but these spots are not always available, so I just push my self to go further like thomas the tank engine, saying I think I can, I think I can, but then I pay for it later the knees don't like it and they say suffer, but I have been told walking is good to keep the muscles going, so I try and do as much as I can, I do not work as the fear of excruciating pain is too much on a daily basis, so at the moment I have the car, visit my parents and do what little shopping I can, and floor exercises,  so I am not totally house bound, till the knees get fixed then watch out world, like u here I come.

I asked about the floor, because I do alot of my floor exercises there, and I also have two dogs that I play with and as I cannot kneel what I do to get up, is turn my whole body to the left and use my hip and arms to push my self up, so I am using the out part of the knee -  I have always loved sitting on the floor after sitting on a chair for awhile just to be able to stretch out, I can see an adjustment is to be needed.

I AM SO HAPPY FOR U, KEEP GOING !!! (not too much thou, not to burn em out.   :P
 
Till Next Time   

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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2005, 02:11:12 PM »
Almost 3 weeks out and have a fair amount of pain from my upper tibia area and still fluid/ swelling on and above my knee cap.  The upper tibia pain is freaking me out.  I am concerned that something is wrong.  It does not hurt to stand on it...just to touch it, lay on it, and bend it....weird.
I asked my OS about the pain last week and he said it was probably normal because of the trauma to the bone.  Seems like it is greater now than last week.
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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2005, 08:03:34 PM »
Hey Spider!  Sorry to hear your upper tibia is giving you trouble.  I would think that it is associated with the surgery.  I'm not a doctor, but wonder if there would be more cause for concern if the pain were increased when you are weight bearing?  Just a thought.  I think it is a positive sign that the pain isn't there when you are up on it.  The pain almost sounds like the nerves & muscle from where they cut - ya' think?  :-\

Just trying to add a positive note to things! Don't get too frustrated, while 3 weeks sounds like a long time, it was still a very major operation.  Hang in there Spider, it's all good from here!  I experienced different pains throughout my recovery too, if that makes you feel any better?!  ;)

Keep us posted.......

~Stefanie
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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2005, 12:02:02 AM »
Hi Spider...I agree with Stefanie that it is perfectly normal to still have swelling and pain at 3 weeks.  As long as your knee isn't hot and red and/or you are running a fever.  Don't forget that your tibia would be cut or shaved for the replacement part.  3 months is usually the point where you will notice a big change in the swelling, as the tissues have settled down by this point in time.  The one thing I noticed was at my 6 month mark, (last month) that I actually have normal looking knees again!  No more puffiness or swelling.

It sounds as if your OS is not concerned about the pain at this point, so just make sure you are doing your PT and keeping the knee moving...but don't overdo!

Take care! ...Kath
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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2005, 05:56:18 PM »
Thanks Stefanie and Kath for the support!  All this is new to me and I am probably expecting too much from my knee. I will keep everyone posted...
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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2005, 03:43:15 AM »
Hey Uof Spider,

I am not on your side of the fence yet but soon, from what I have read everyone's progress is an individual one some short or longer than other's, keep the faith and it will get better, listen to music get the good vibes going perhaps your soul needs some time out as well think all good things, each day is going to be better and better, well this is my spin on things, have u been able to get out and get some fresh air instead of being couped up inside, do u still use crutches or the walker to get around.

Well all said and done, when my op arrives hopefully I can walk on the moon - lol.....

I have just listen to Robbie Williams - Rock DJ and that is such a bopping song it lifts my spirits up.

Hi Stephanie and Kath, whats been happening with u.

Big Hugs

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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2005, 01:17:48 AM »
Hello everyone!  ;D

I've had myself a busy weekend - my daughter turned 5!!!!!  We had a "tea party" yesterday with a few of her closest friends!  It was so cute, we went to a place called the Raspberry Tea Room!  All the girls dressed up in their "party" clothes & looked like little princess's!  Really cute party!

We are getting ready to move into our new house, getting excited about that!  When I say new - I mean new to us, but it is so much bigger than the one we are in now, will be really nice!

Hope you are all having a pain-free knee day!

~Stefanie
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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2005, 09:11:24 PM »
Hey Uof Spider,

I am not on your side of the fence yet but soon, from what I have read everyone's progress is an individual one some short or longer than other's, keep the faith and it will get better, listen to music get the good vibes going perhaps your soul needs some time out as well think all good things, each day is going to be better and better, well this is my spin on things, have u been able to get out and get some fresh air instead of being couped up inside, do u still use crutches or the walker to get around.

Well all said and done, when my op arrives hopefully I can walk on the moon - lol.....

I have just listen to Robbie Williams - Rock DJ and that is such a bopping song it lifts my spirits up.

Hi Stephanie and Kath, whats been happening with u.

Big Hugs

JBL


Great advice JBL!!   I actually spend the weekend at my Mother's farm and totally enjoyed it...pretty much just hung-out and relaxed!  Swelling went down and I worked on my ROM.  Thanks for all the advice!
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Re: PKR recovery update!!
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2005, 01:18:13 AM »
Hey UofSpider,

Cool a farm, what type of farm?

I have a friend that has a type of hobby farm, they have 2 pigs, 2 goats, 2 dogs, 2 sheep, 2 ducks we call it Noah's Ark they are sure on their way.

Has your mum have u milking the cows? - lol only joking.

I live in a bit city area, so going to the country and visiting is a great pastime for me, I am so relaxed there, it's like how the other half live, for me instead of great big mansions that the rich live, I'll take the country drive and fresh air any day!

Hey stephanie,  happy birthday to your daughter and is the move very far away from where u are now?

Not much happening for me at the moment going to the dentist tomorrow and preparing and looking into the last minute things for hospital.

Have a good day everyone.

Big hugs

JBL

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