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Offline Alla

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Finally an answer!
« on: March 31, 2005, 01:29:14 PM »
Hi there

Thought I'd post an update to my ongoing "lateral ligament" injury.  I've been living with it for 4 months without much improvement, although I can walk without a limp, so last week I bit the bullet and telephoned a sports medicine Doctor in the nearest capital city and made an appointment (I was suprised to get in so soon!!).  Anyhow today was the big day and I travelled down there to find out what he thought about my "lateral ligament" tear. 
 
Well....was I in for a bit of a shock..... I've gone from something that I was told would heal in 3 weeks, to a knee reconstruction involving the ACL scheduled for around a months time.  I'm still in shock over it all to be honest.... I thought I was up for a bit of a clean out since I lacked pain in the joint, it seems relatively stable and the incident that caused the tear was realtively low on the pain meter (althought it did pop in the right place for an ACL).  Iv'e also been walking around on it for 4 months will little issue.   

The fact that I had little or no swelling created some concern about what the injury was.  I passed the first test for an ACL injury quite well.... my joint didnt give at all but failed the second badly where they grab the knee with one hand and try to move the lower leg up and down.  Even I was horrified by the amount of movement that wsa generated by this action (I was sure that had to hurt!! Didnt though), but because hte first test showed that the joint was stable, the Dr got his collegue in for a look..... the grave looks on thier faces told me everything.....

So anyhow, I'm off to have this reco apparently.... they tell me that it will be done through keyhole surgery... like an arthroscope, and since I wont be having an MRI first they are going in, and if it is not torn enough to reco, then they get out.... otherwise it is full steam ahead.  It's all a bit of a shock really as I'd been told that it was a minor injury by 3 local Dr's or Physio's and refused scans and x-rays by them because "ligament injuries take up to 12 weeks to heal"

So I guess that the lesson in all this is that just because it might not swell, or be through the roof painful.... doenst mean that the cruciates are ok (as I was originally told).  I guess everyone is different, and if your gut tells you that it isnt ok... get an opinion from someone who is qualified to give it.  If I had've seen this Sports Medicine Specialist soon after the injury occurred I could have been well on the way to recovery.  I'm just glad now that I know what it is that is wrong and what steps I need to make to get it fixed..... better late then never....

Alla   
Torn ACL December 04
ACL Reco May 05
Cleared to return to sport May 06

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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2005, 01:47:11 PM »
Hey Alla,

I'm glad to hear that you have finally discovered what exactly your problem is and sorry to hear that you will be having to have surgery.  I understand the shock of finding out that something a little more serious is going on that what you originally thought.  The good news is that you will soon be on the road to recovery.  Did you ever have an MRI of your knee?  If not, I would suggest you get one.  I almost let an OS operate on me without an MRI and I'm so glad that I didn't.  My injury presented with symptoms of  meniscus tear and it turns out that was not the case at all.  I wish you the best of luck with your surgery.  Let us know when you get a surgery date.

Casey  :)
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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2005, 01:57:54 PM »
Alla~
Its a good thing you called the doc. and made an appt. to see him because now you know what is exactly wrong with your knee! Im still waiting to find out   :P :P . I hope your recon. goes great and you have a speedy recovery!! best of luck!
Krista
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Torn:PCL, ACL, MCL
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Grade 3 Chondromalacia
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Sept 14th 2005-(LK)ACL recon, TTT, menisectomy,plica removal

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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2005, 02:12:01 PM »
WELl, i'm glad you got in to see someone and found out what's going on before you caused yourself more damage in there. Goodluck with your surgery, please let us know when you get a date.
HUGS and lot's of luck for the surgery and recovery
Linds ;D
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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2005, 11:58:01 PM »
Thanks Guys,

Looks like it will be at the end of the month maybe the start of next month.  I think it is starting to sink in now.... starting to get a little scared.  I'm actually asthmatic as well so Im not sure how I'll go with the anesthetic side of things.... I've had opperations as a kid, but that was before I was diagnosed as an asthmatic.  So now Im a little scared of that.

Alla
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ACL Reco May 05
Cleared to return to sport May 06

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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2005, 12:08:32 AM »
Alla, 

I understand your nervousness.  I was quite nervous before my operation and I have to tell you that the pre-op jitters were actually much worse than what I actually experienced at the hospital.  Have you spoken with the doctor about your options for anesthesia yet?  I'm not sure what your options would be for your paticular type of operation.  I was given the option of general and spinal.  I choose a spinal where they just numbed my legs and I was awake for the whole procedure.  I was given the option to be lightly sedated if I choose with the spinal and if I choose I could be put all the way under if part way during the operation if I didn't like being awake.  So, if it is the being put all the way under that you are worried about due to your asthma, there are other options.  Also, in this day and age I would imagine that you can do general even though you are asthmatic...that is just my guess though.  I really have no idea.  Let us know when you get your official operation date.

Casey  :)
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LOA on left knee 3/18/07
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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2005, 02:28:05 AM »
Sure will Casey

I'm not sure that I could cope with being awake for the op...... although I am a trained phsyiologist and have done dozens of animal disections.... being present for my own "knee disection" Im not sure I could cope with that.  I guess I'll chat with them in a few weeks and find out the options.... I'll let you know what happens

Alla
Torn ACL December 04
ACL Reco May 05
Cleared to return to sport May 06

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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2005, 03:07:15 AM »
Alla,

Good luck to you on your upcoming surgery.  You are lucky in a way that the surgery will be over with soon and you'll start the recovery period.

Let us know how things are going.

Sending hugs,  ;)

Shade

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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2005, 04:10:26 AM »
Hi Guys

This is all getting a bit too hard at the moment. I recieved my referal letter to the OS during the week and from what I can gather I am seeing him for a second opinion, although the MD that refered me has written on the letter, "although there is no pain or swelling I still feel that she has torm her ACL"  I had gone about rearranging my plans for the next few weeks because I was due to start teaching rounds in about a weeks time that will fall at the same time as my OS visit and any surgery that needs to follow.   But after reading the letter I realise that it may not be definate that I need surgery (although my knee is considerably worse after the MD poked and proded!! It seems more unstable then ever now) and that this will be a second opinion....
I;d hate to put off my teaching rounds to be told that I didnt need surgery... I'm a bit stuck as to what to do

Alla
 
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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2005, 04:34:07 AM »
Are you able to rescheduele your appointment Alla? I can understand that you don't want to wait but if your knee is not bothering you heaps maybe you could postpone it a little bit? It's good to get a second opinion though, especially since it's not hurting alot...  Still you don't want to go to your teaching rounds now to find that you'll regret it later... It all gets a bit too difficult at times! It sounds like you have already organised everything but i saw a really excellent surgeon in Melbourne who did my surgery at the start of the year. I know it's a bit off topic, you probably know what happens but here is his webpage anyway :)
http://www.dunin.com.au/
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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2005, 04:57:26 AM »
Thanks for that, it was really helpful information.....
I think I have a little too much on my plate at the moment..... and Im an indecive piece of work too..... ;)
Alla
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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2005, 01:41:26 AM »
Hey Alla

I tore my acl playing football (soccer), no real pain - carried on playing after the incident and even played more competitve games after being reassured by three different doctors that I had done nothing more than 'sprained my knee'.  Only found out my acl was torn after locking my knee during a match (bucket handle tear) and going to see the consultant for what i thought would be a bit of a cartilage trim.  Had an MRI and scope within three days of locking my knee and found out my knee was in a mess - bucket handle tear (that I knew from the knee locking), torn acl and 2.5cm diameter full thickness defect on the back of my patella - not good  :'(     Carrying on definitely didn't do my knee anygood at all.

Anyway, I rehabbed for about 10 weeks before having the acl reconstruction and again rehabbed for nearly a year before aci.  I am now 10 weeks post op ACI and walking normally, ascending stairs normally and free of pain.  Call me mad, but at 33 I still intend to play football again and have my sights set on golf for the summer! 

My advice would be to get as much strength in your quads and to work on proprieception exercises prior to your acl reconstruction - If you put off the operation, I would do the same work to really building up the strength and stability in the knee to prevent further damage  - this should also aid your recovery if you have the reconstruction at a future date.

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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2005, 03:29:46 AM »
Thanks for that advise Jim....it is very valuable.

I'm told that the quad in my injured leg is quite wasted as a result of the injury, but my other leg is apparently on a par with that of a professional swimmer, runner and tennis player (the one piece of good news I got from my visit) I've been on my bike a fair bit to try to build it up as much as I can.  I've been fortunate in that I tend to build up muscle fairly quickly, but conversely I lose it pretty quickly too. While I say that there isnt much pain, if I push myself too hard there is a bit of an issue with pain so Im trying to do as much as I can to put myself in the best position for the possible surgery.  I'd really like to be up and going as soon as I can after the whole ordeal, so that I can get back into my sport..... I hope I have as good a run as what you have seemed to have!!    I had initially on the advise of Drs completely rested my knee, but got sick of doing nothing around 3-4 weeks ago and started getting active.... that is when I realised that this was no lateral lig tear.. hopefully that willl help towards pre-op PT.

Alla
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ACL Reco May 05
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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2005, 12:21:15 AM »
Hey Alla


pleased to hear you are getting a little active again.  Good mobility and strength will definitely help for when you have your op.  Have you a date yet?

I would try and get to see a physio, explain what has happened and ask for a programme to try and build up strength and stability.

Good luck!

Jim

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Re: Finally an answer!
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2005, 02:46:04 AM »
Hey there Jim,

Reco date is tomorrow..... Im scared to death... but since it has to be done.....  Been trying to work the muscles etc.... but the leg is now a lazy sod.... no matter how hard I try it doesnt want to do any hard work itself.... I think there is more tone there then there was though so hopefully it is enough...

Alla
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ACL Reco May 05
Cleared to return to sport May 06















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