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Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« on: March 01, 2005, 02:36:34 PM »
I keep getting the run around where no DR will actually tell me what's going on with my knee (though I'm more informed this time around thanks so much to this site!!).
I was just wondering if it is pretty common for everone that you have to see several specialists before someone actually gets to the root of the problem.
Also, I do not have a sports or accident injury, more of an ongoing life long problem. So I feel a little uncomfortable seeing sports specialist because I feel they might not take me as seriously as they deal mostly with easily spotted injuries, torn ACL, etc. I wonder if it's just me and I need to get over that mentality or if others feel that way too.

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2005, 04:07:47 PM »
yeah it's normal.  The more complex, the less they want to deal with it genearlly.  There are a few specialists who take pride on dealing with complex knee problems and have a commitment to improving a person's overall lifestyle. 

Where do you live?
Age: 35
1989 rt ACL (+25 degrees ext loss)
1994 rt ACL resection (+ 10 deg)
2001 rt ACL revision (+ 10 deg)
2003 rt med meniscus repair (+10 deg)
2004 rt LOA and post capsulotmy (zero degrees)
2005 rt LOA and tib bone plug removal (even w/ other leg)
2006 rt Fulkerson TTT & ACI Carticel

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2005, 05:16:05 PM »
You definately are not alone... i've seen the same OS for 16 years and had a few others' poking and prodding at me too. and a few different PT's... and my useless lump of a GP.  No one seems to know what to do however my PT has been my saving grace... I can't remember what life was like before I found him. He keeps pushing me to look for answers, pushing me to go back to the OS pushing me.. in general. ::) It's excellent... having atleast one person in the medical field that can support you and such is always nice.   ;D  I know what you mean about the Sport MEd Guys.. sometimes I feel that way, but then, I figure they are always trying to keep people or get people back to their athletic lifestyles so... I want to be included in that.   :-\ Maybe that's the wrong way to think about it.but that's how I see it. :-[
Goodluck and Hugs
Linds
1997 Scope RK
2002 LR RK
2002 Scope and hematoma evac RK
2004 LR LK
May 06 Fall from Horse, partial ACL tear and meniscus injury, Tibial plateau injury
2007 Scope, Plica Excision and Debride LK
2009/2010- Possibly Ankylosing Spondylitis?

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2005, 06:54:22 PM »
I live real close to Chicago Illinois, so you'd think I'd be able to find a specialist!  :)   Actually, there are a lot of great hospitals/ clinics in my area, but they also have great bills.

I went to a sports center for PT for a few months, boy was that bad!! I've never felt so out of place in my life! And the PT treated me like I was a waste of her time. Horrible! That was last year and I haven't seen anyone else since. But everyday I stare at the phone number of a clinic I found and think about calling...
It's hard to get motivated knowing that I have to pretty much start all over...

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2005, 07:04:49 PM »
From what I am learning sometime you may never know exactly the problem...which stinks because  you just want some validation of why you hurt! Good Luck
Lisa

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2005, 07:10:14 PM »
Do a search using search above for docs in Chicago area.

Also, if you click the 'website' icon above you will see a link to recommended surgeons in your area.  Not that these are guaranteed to help, but they are generally the good ones. 

Good Luck. I hope you figure it out,

Nick
Age: 35
1989 rt ACL (+25 degrees ext loss)
1994 rt ACL resection (+ 10 deg)
2001 rt ACL revision (+ 10 deg)
2003 rt med meniscus repair (+10 deg)
2004 rt LOA and post capsulotmy (zero degrees)
2005 rt LOA and tib bone plug removal (even w/ other leg)
2006 rt Fulkerson TTT & ACI Carticel

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2005, 07:21:21 PM »
I think you should call that clinic that you found. ;)  Why not...it can't hurt... where I am now, anything is worth a try.  My Old PT that I left when I found this new guy, she was that way too. Always made me feel like it wasn't worth her effort or mine. She was nice about it, but she didn't think I could get better... :-\

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Linds
1997 Scope RK
2002 LR RK
2002 Scope and hematoma evac RK
2004 LR LK
May 06 Fall from Horse, partial ACL tear and meniscus injury, Tibial plateau injury
2007 Scope, Plica Excision and Debride LK
2009/2010- Possibly Ankylosing Spondylitis?

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2005, 07:22:45 PM »
Nick-
Yeah, I'm pretty much glued to the internet sometimes! I figure if I keep digging, I'm bound to search out someone good eventually!
That's how I found the last specialist I saw and I'm thinking of going back, but to a different DR.

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2005, 07:28:40 PM »
Linds- I'm probably going to call this week... I just keep putting it off.. Thinking it will be so horrible and I've worked it up in  my own head...

Anyway- When I do FIANLLY call   ;D  I'm going to ask to see someone else. The DR was nice, but didn't seem to really care since it wasn't sports. She kept asking me 'and you didn't fall recently, something like that?' Arg!   :P

What a headache, I'd better look into migrane meds while I'm at it!
(Just joking, I don't even get migranes, yet!)

 ;D Dubs  ;D

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2005, 07:36:53 PM »
Goodluck when you do call, and know i'll be right there...not letting you hang up the phone. :p...  ;D I know what you mean though, i hate calling about stuff like that...I build it up in my head too, especially when i'm stressing cause i'm in pain.

GOODLUCK...
just remember, once you do it.. it's done.;)

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Linds
1997 Scope RK
2002 LR RK
2002 Scope and hematoma evac RK
2004 LR LK
May 06 Fall from Horse, partial ACL tear and meniscus injury, Tibial plateau injury
2007 Scope, Plica Excision and Debride LK
2009/2010- Possibly Ankylosing Spondylitis?

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2005, 07:37:09 PM »
I am not sure  but what you will have to start over so to speak, as I could not really tell from your post where or when you started trying to explore you knee problems. Most do not start out with a sports medicine clinic, unless they have been injured playing, skiing, etc. consulting your family dr. and getting a referral to an orthopod, if  they require it, or just calling an orthopedic clinic, should get you started. If you have already seen Ortho Drs. what did they recommend? Unfortunately, knee problems can take a long time to work out. Teresa
On going instrumentation failure, chronic infection,
Arthroscopes Left 11 Right 2, MRSA, L TKR  ,  Revision, LR x5, Medial and lateral meniscus repair, Broken prosthesis
Osteochondral Fracture,untreated 6 mths. Revision new tkr 01-07 awaiting new hip and right knee
R TKR pending

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2005, 08:30:54 PM »
Teresa-
I have had knee problems all my life, 8 months old- broke my leg. 1- 5 years old- braces and yearly x-rays. I went to the original clinic that set the leg until I was 11 maybe (?). I woke up crying all the time when I was little and my mom would rub my legs to make them stop hurting. I also had shoe inserts made. Then I got a brace 5 years ago from DR to hold my leg straight and help with pain. Which worked, but makes it hard to get around high school & drive my manual car!

So then maybe 4 years ago, I decided to REALLY start looking into having whatever fixed. I think the turning point was having my knee lock up a few times, which it had never done before. 

I've had plenty of x-rays, and MRI, PT, taping (God awful and will never do again!). I've seen one knee specialist and one orthopedic specialist (the practice I found kindof leans toward the sports injuries). So then I got fed up because no one would give me a straight answer, one place x-rayed the wrong leg even when I argued, the PT treated me different because I wasn't a sport injury, and insurance wasn't covering too great because, again, long term problem not one specific injury.

So I haven't done anything about it since last summer. But now I have some new problems, so I really need to just suck it up and call this place again, ask for someone else.
So that's my story.

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2005, 10:02:03 AM »
Dubs - two words come to mind:
UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL

Go to an excellent university's hospital - as they usually have better MDs there.

I've got birth defects and found out young that going to Univ hosp is much better than the avg clinic IMO.

Perhaps OSes (and MDs in general) only give patients respect if they DEMAND it ... but I always demand it. Why should I care if i RESPECTFULLY stomp on a few toes if that's what I'm forced to do by some bozo worrying about making his $100k student loan? I didn't force him to become an OS.  And being rude / ignorant / lazy is not an answer.

Rawsushi's Standard Operating Procedure At the OSes Office:
1. Prepare your questions 1 or 2 days in advance
2. Arrive early
3. Bring a NOTEPAD with you questions with room to write the answers (or keywords that will remind you later)
4. Always always always PARAPHRASE back.... 
5. Admit when you don't get it
6. If your OS wants to bolt out of the room  (some of them have advanced cases of ADD and are always leaving & coming back) then i PHYSICALLY stand in front of the door and say, I'm not done yet with my consultation.l
7. Thank them every time they help you, whether it be explaining something new, or what.


Good luck.


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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2005, 03:33:03 PM »
That's some good advice! Did you really stand in front of the door?
Yeah, I learned early to write down questions ahead of time. Otherwise they start with the mumbojumbo and I forget everything I wanted to know     :)

Anyway- Thanks!
Dubs

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Re: Just wondering re:DR, OS, PT etc...
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2005, 03:47:43 PM »
hey Rawsushi..that's some awesome advice.. i'm printing it off and putting it in my knee binder.  ;) Hope you dont' mind. :P And yeah I wanna know too did you stand in front of the door? Must be nice to be a big strong man...  ::)  I know it shouldn't matter but I think it really does. I've always been programmed as a young woman to be polite, kind, reserved etc etc... :-\ It truly is hard to get over that kind of programming.
I'm off for a meeting with my OS this coming Tuesday the 8th so i'm going to print of your ideas..and use some of them.. ::)

Thanks and Dubbin, again goodluck

LInds
1997 Scope RK
2002 LR RK
2002 Scope and hematoma evac RK
2004 LR LK
May 06 Fall from Horse, partial ACL tear and meniscus injury, Tibial plateau injury
2007 Scope, Plica Excision and Debride LK
2009/2010- Possibly Ankylosing Spondylitis?