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Brace on NHS?
« on: December 26, 2004, 03:58:23 AM »
Hey - i recently ....... well 3months ago, ruptured my ACL and a whole bunch of other fun stuff (dislocated knee cap, strained MCL, LCL).

Anways, the NHS being the NHS it's gonna take me until august 2005 before i can get the op (partly my choice as i'm hopin 2 play in the scottish boys golf matchplay this year - fingers crossed).

After consulatation w/ my family GP i looked into knee brace suppliers and was told to get back to him and he would "gladly refer me" !?

After some research I called my local surgery and spoke to the duty doc and asked if it would be possible to get a knee brace on the NHS (we;re talkin about 40quid tops here - poor students  8)) and was told that i could get tubygrips and knee straps but not braces.

Having read this forum i've noticed that some people have managed to get them via the NHS - is this ssomething they have stopped doin? Was the duty-doc just bein a twat?

Cheers!
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Re: Brace on NHS?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2004, 06:07:37 AM »
No the NHS do supply knee braces as I myself had two different ones supplied by them after my meniscus repair surgery (for 2 months I had to wear them)

The only way however that you will get a "proper" one and not a tubi grip etc is to go and see the orthopaedic consultant (any will do) in the clinic and explain that you badly need one for stability (or whatever you do need it for)
Don't let them talk you out of it if they try and they are obliged to supply you one until the op if not doing so could jeopardise your knee injury further.....or risk casuing you further NEW injury.

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Re: Brace on NHS?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2004, 08:12:59 PM »
My NHS OS prescribed me a Donjoy Goldpoint for stability whilst I was waiting for my ACL Recon in 1995.  When I returned to sports, I asked my OS for a lighter less bulky brace, he prescribed a Donjoy Defiance.
I have had 2 other braces aswell from my OS.

Hope this helps,

Heather ;)
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94 Meniscus Repair
95 ACL/LCLrec,notchplasty,bone graft
01 90% Menisectomy
02 Scope
03 ACLrec,LAD
OA,osteophytes
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Re: Brace on NHS?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2004, 12:28:12 PM »
Hi,

You ****should**** be able to get a brace on the good ol NHS.

BUT it will depend on your consultant. His/Her (please notice the godlike capitalisation) decision will probably be final - they usually close ranks if you 'have the cheek' to ask for a second opinion.

Now comes the crafty/sensible bit - if you manage to get your GP (the one you usually see) to do a little more than they are paid for, they will be able to short circuit the system by finding out 'receptive' surgeons.

Please remember that you are living in the real world of the NHS and you don't want to get on the bad side of the knife weilder who's going to play with your knee!

The other thing is that you may consider changing surgeons if the first doesn't listen. If they don't listen before the op they probably won't after either.........

Above all do what you feel is right for YOU and remember it's YOUR knee. If you want to try a brace find out some way of trying one.

Good luck,

Fox

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Re: Brace on NHS?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2004, 12:58:46 AM »
THis is a copy of a reply I made above (showing that it certainly is possible to get NHS knee braces provided that they are really needed)

Re: Problems with BOTH Knees
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I had a PCL Edge brace which was excellent when my knee was flopping backwards with no PCL or PLC although it is quite bulky.
I also had a Breg Y2K women's brace which was lighter and easier to wear.
I had both of these on the NHS through the orthotics department at the local orthopaedic hospital.
If you really have a complex multiligament knee instability then I don't see why you too can't have this on the NHS. It is just about knowing who to see.  

Although I relied on them even for walking for 2 years I am happy to say that both are now consigned to storage. The most I ever wear now is a knee "sleeve" to increase proprioception around the knee (also bought from technology in motion but costing £22)
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diagnostic arthroscopy June 01
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Re: Brace on NHS?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2005, 09:44:03 AM »
Hi golfing_guru

You really have to fight when you are dealing with the NHS.  The one's that shout the loudest, are the one's that get heard.

I managed to get a Technology In Motion CTi2 OA Unloader brace, which retails at approx £600 out of the NHS.  I had previously bought the last 2 and after reading on here that someone had managed to get one on the NHS - welll I thought, if they can, I'm surely not going to fork out my own money.  And here I am with one that I got over a year ago now.  In fact, it has been back to TIM for it's service once and new straps twice.

Speak to your OS, or even to his/her secretary and explain the situation fully, mentioning that you have spoken to your GP, etc.  

I wish you luck, let us know how you get on with the brace, as well as the golf.
Past History of L&R Knee
Bilateral OA
Medial Meniscal Tears
Lateral Releases & Medial Reefings
Ruptured LCL, MCL & PCL
Adhesions in the interconylar notch of ACL removed
Suprapatella plication
Debridements/Lavages
Deep chondral fissure in crest of patella
Awaiting MRI - LK
TKR - RK

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Re: Brace on NHS?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2005, 12:51:12 PM »
Thanks every1 for your help, but in the end my local GP and OS were just not having it.

They claimed that my instabilities only occured when golfing, skiing etc. and told me that i simply had to stop doing these things.  >:(

I ended up going for a new brace from the states made by powerform. It only cost 60quid and it was the best money i coulda spent.

I've been skiin with it once this season (lets face it - thus far the season has been terrible) and it held up real good ........ when the brace came off however the pain was overwhelming - but on the plus side NO instability.

Hoping this will help me with my golf as well but i'm currently in winter training so i can't really test how its gonna hold up walkin 8miles and stuff. Oh well finger crossed eh?

Cheers for all your help anyway  8)
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Re: Brace on NHS?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2005, 03:32:33 PM »
I didnt have to fight at all to get braces on the NHS.  I simply explained how my knee was and the OS prescribed them.  OK, so my knee was grossly unstable and I could hardly walk before the op without my knee flopping all over the place!! :o, but after Id be re-built I was prescribed several braces to play sports in to help prevent further damage in the future.

I think it really depends on the OS and the type and seriousness of the injury.  In my case before the reconstruction I was at great risk of causing further and more complicated damage to my knee.

Hope that helps,

Heather ;)
91 Mangled Right knee on trials motorbike
94 Meniscus Repair
95 ACL/LCLrec,notchplasty,bone graft
01 90% Menisectomy
02 Scope
03 ACLrec,LAD
OA,osteophytes
04 Ch'plasty, ACLdeb,Suprapatella mbr ex, haematoma
04 Scope
March 06 Scaphoid op/bone graft
Nov 07 Thyroid Cancer ops x 2, radiation

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Re: Brace on NHS?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2005, 11:14:55 PM »
When I say fight, I didn't actually have to work hard at getting a brace that the NHS could supply from any of the brace manufacturers.

However, the brace they wanted me to wear, wasn't exactly suitable as it didn't account for my hyperextension and the brace that I needed had to be  a custom brace as opposed to a straight forward off the shelf brace.

I always get what I want out of the NHS eventually.  Not that I use it much, as I go privately.  Can't stand being treated like cattle and hate waiting too long.
Past History of L&R Knee
Bilateral OA
Medial Meniscal Tears
Lateral Releases & Medial Reefings
Ruptured LCL, MCL & PCL
Adhesions in the interconylar notch of ACL removed
Suprapatella plication
Debridements/Lavages
Deep chondral fissure in crest of patella
Awaiting MRI - LK
TKR - RK