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Title: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on September 27, 2012, 12:35:32 AM
Starting this diary early, my surgery is Friday. I didn't do one for my last knee surgery and I regret it.

My story:
I've always had knee problems since 6th grade, never went to the doctor. I finally started to wear those walgreens knee braces my freshmen year for soccer. My sophomore year, I hurt my knee in a game and the trainer set up an appointment with an OS. I had a sprained knee. I went back every month and my pain got worst. He set me up with physical therapy and it didn't help. He ordered an MRI of both knees, and nothing showed up that would cause my pain. Finally he decided to do an exploratory scope on December 19, 2011, he found meniscus tears, which he trimmed off, and plica. my post op appointment and PT was the next day. I was on crutches off and on for a month, my knee would give out when I'd try to walk. Then on January 17, I had my knee aspirated due to swelling that never went away, it was bloody. I continued going to PT, my ROM came back slowly, finally a few months later, they sort of kicked me out because there was nothing else for them to do for me. I then go a gym membership. Then my left knee started to sublux a ton (my right knee did, but not as much) One day in class it dislocated, I went to the doctor, he touched my knee and ordered to get off crutches and gave me a horseshoe patella knee brace. It still subluxed when it was on. I got a Breg Fusion XT OA knee brace because I thought I was playing soccer my senior year. After I got it, he said that there was nothing else he can for me. I went for a physical for my regular doctor and he wouldn't clear me. I got an appointment with my new OS, Dr. Seth on 9-20. I got xrays done, he examined my knee and told me my newest MRI wouldn't show my pain. He said said my knee caps are in the wrong spot? and that in surgery he could tighten up some loose things. He told me I could play soccer, but my mom doesn't want me to, so we scheduled surgery for this Friday.

I can go to school Monday if I feel up to it. My time on crutches will depend on how much they do. PT will be discussed at my postop appointment. They will call me tomorrow with an arrival time.
The nurse told me on the paper she got it said MPML looseness, and a MPML plication will be done. I have no idea what that is, and I can't find much online.

This is my right knee before surgery. I have no idea why my knee cap is to the left, I took this at my sister's house, looked down, and there it was. It's not like this now.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on September 29, 2012, 04:49:39 PM
9/28 Friday
I got to the hospital at 4:45. We waited till 5:20 to be taken back to the same day surgery area. I got to room number 4 and changed into my gown. A nurse came a little later and asked me a bunch of questions. She put Iodine on my leg and wrapped it up. She put some blood clot thing that hooked up to a machine (I guess during surgery) on. Then the IV came. She tried it on my right hand, without a numbing shot, and she said my valves werenít opening. So she got another nurse to do it on my arm and I got a numbing shot, and she also said they werenít opening, but they left it. I was hooked up to fluids. We waited for awhile. Then the anesthesiologist came and talked to me. He was a man, and talked very fast. He said I would be getting the medicine through IV and that I would also be getting a femoral nerve block. I had no idea what that was so he explained it. Right after that they wheeled me to the OR waiting. I got put on the recovery side, i donít know why, he gave me some sedation, which didnt make me tired. They undid my gown and put the patches on my chest. Then they gave me like a shot I guess for the femoral nerve block by my hip/groin and my leg started uncontrollably moving. After that he gave me more stuff through IV, he didnt know why I wasnít getting tired. My doctor came and signed my leg. And I was so happy for this part, I actually got to experience being wheeled to the OR! We got there and it was so sterile and cold. I moved to the other table. I seen a dry erase board with my name, right knee, and MPML plication. They strapped my arms down, he put something in my IV and I was out! I woke up in the same place I was before, OR recovery. My pain was very bad. I got morphine through the IV. I remember the nurse saying that I was confused. She kept saying dont worry about your arm. After that I got put back into my preop room. She told is that I had an allergic reaction to morphine, and I had a rash on my arm. I stayed in there for awhile. Still in a ton of pain! Iím guessing that nerve block didnt work. I stayed in there for about 1 hour to 2 hours. I asked the nurse if i could see the pictures. The doctor told my family that my patella was very loose and he put 3 sutures in it, which is why im NWB. Changing was horrible! I could barely put my underwear and shorts on. I waited for a wheelchair and that was horrible too lol, the car ride home I sat in the front which was so painful.

I am NWB for 2 weeks. I have my post op appointment on October 15. I can take the dressings off Sunday. I guess PT will be discussed on the 15th. Iím not in a brace.

9/29 Saturday
Sleeping last night was horrible. I had to stay on my back. (For my last surgery I could kind of sleep on my side/back but not this one) I got up every 4 hours if I wasn't already up to take my lortab. This morning I got up to pee and I couldn't pick my leg off the floor so I could crutch. It was just too much pain. So I lightly placed it in front of my crutches and moved it forward while I crutched. I am having a ton of medial pain, even just laying here. I've been icing 24/7, I can't really feel it though. The nerve block wore off.

Does anyone know how to take a shower of you can't put weight on your leg?
(I'm on my phone so I can't post pictures)
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: Teacher2Many on September 30, 2012, 12:08:09 AM
As for the shower, invest in the purchase of a shower chair.  The transfer bench ones (the longer shower chairs that have two legs that go in the tub and two out) worked better for me as I could sit on the edge and just swing my legs into the tub (vs trying to get into the tub without putting weight and then sit).  Then you can sit and shower and do the opposite to get out-swing the legs out and then get up.  All is doable without putting weight on it, just takes some practice, time, and patience! 
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on September 30, 2012, 12:59:41 AM
@teacher2many is it worth it to buy one if its only for 2 weeks? Is there any other way to take one without getting a chair?
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: Teacher2Many on September 30, 2012, 01:36:36 AM
Well, in my opinion, I would say yes in that it's worth it.  Maybe just don't invest in a really great one.  But keep in mind that you may need it longer than the two week mark depending on how recovery goes or for those days when you're just too sore/too tired to stand (trust me, there are days during rehab when the thought of taking a shower seems too much) and depending on what the doc says, you might only be partial weight bearing after that two week mark and do you really want to be standing in a wet shower without being able to put your foot down flat or to be able to catch yourself with your leg if you slip; not worth the risk of damaging the surgical procedure.

Not sure where you live but you might be able to 'rent' one from your local community agency (ie in my town we have a nurse that has equipment to rent/borrow, gives immunizations/baby check-ups to those who can't afford to see a doc, etc.).  And as bad as it is to say, you may end up needing more surgery down the road so if you bought it, you could just store it and use it later on.

The first major surgery I had I just did without and then the second and third major ones I borrowed the one my grandparents had and then invested in the transfer bench which came in handy for the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh ones (and will use it again when the hip is fixed).  You might be able to get one off of e-bay or the like as well.

Long story short, worth the investment in my book.  But if not, an outdoor plastic patio chair might work as well, just not as sturdy to use to brace yourself with.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on September 30, 2012, 03:19:52 AM
@teache2many

I just did it, without one, and it was a horrible experience. My sister, her husband, her friend, and her friends boyfriend helped me. They put my leg in a garbage back and tape the top. They put a step stool in the tub. I sat on the edge and put my left leg in. Then I stood up leaning on my crutch.  Someone took my leg and tried to put it down, but it won't bend and there wasn't enought room. So they got my nephews bumbo (sitting thing for babies) put it upside down and we lowered my leg on to it. I took my shirt and bra off before the water turned on. Then I took a shower with my shorts and stuff still on. After I was done I put my clean clothes on, left my wet bottoms on. They all came back in and I moved myself to the edge and someone took my bad leg and lowered it to the ground and then I got my bottoms on

Many tears and selective words came out lol. I have no idea how I will do this when I go back home tomorrow.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: Teacher2Many on September 30, 2012, 03:27:21 AM
I'm so sorry to hear that!  I know how hard it is and how frustrating it is to not be able to do the simplest thing like take a shower by yourself.  Those are days I wish to not relive!  I do think the transfer bench will help-you can undress, sit on the edge, and on your own time based on your pain, swing that leg in, scoot over and shower.  I usually prop the foot/feet of my bad leg/legs on the edge of the tub as the knee won't always bend in a typical sitting position and propping it usually helps. 

It takes time to figure out a method that works and then there are days with increased pain/swelling so there are minor setbacks but it does get better!  Hang in there!
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on September 30, 2012, 02:02:45 PM
@teacher2many
Thank you so much for replying. I think my grandparents have a shower chair for one of their moms at their house. I will have to ask

Do you or anyone else have any idea on why I can't crutch normally? I could the day of surgery, but since then, I have to drag my foot forward and crutch. My leg feels like a dead weight, I try as hard as I can to pick it up and bend it slightly to crutch, and I can't. For me to get off the couch, I have to pull my leg up with my hands and move it to the floor.

I have school tomorrow and i can't drag my foot everywhere.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: Teacher2Many on September 30, 2012, 10:31:38 PM
What do you mean when you state 'drag your foot forward'?  Does this mean you can't pick your foot up to swing your leg forward?  You may need a height adjustment with your crutches, especially if you are wearing shoes (I found this to be helpful after one of my surgeries-the height was fine in the house but as soon as I put shoes on, even if it was just flip flops, the height was off.  I moved it up to the next notch and was fine both with and without shoes).

How is your foot otherwise?  Can you pick it up if you're sitting in a chair or if you're on the couch, can you point your toes down and then back up?

As for lifting the leg to get it off the couch, pretty typical post-op.  Your quads shut down rather quickly from pain and swelling and the quads are what's needed to lift the leg.  I still find myself helping my leg out a bit, such as getting in/out of the car and had a ton of help during those first few weeks after all surgeries.  For me to be independent (which I always strive for), I would flip one crutch upside down, prop my foot on the inside of the part that goes under your arm, and lift it that way to get on/off the couch, in/out of bed, etc.  Sometimes lifting it with my arm felt like I was going to drop it or I just couldn't get the angle right but when I used the crutch, it was great.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on September 30, 2012, 10:51:56 PM
I try to pick my leg up slightly off the ground, so I can crutch, I did it after surgery, but since then I couldn't do it. When I try, if I can, the medial side of my knee gets really tight. So I either have to drag it behind me or drag it forward and crutch. I will try to put them higher and see if it works, because I can't drag my foot around at school!

I can't pick my leg up at all on it's own, sitting down, laying down, anything. I have to move it manually for anything, or I get someone else to do it. I can barely point my toes, and when I try, it's a ton of pain. I also can't elevate my leg, even if it's on one pillow, my knee gets really tight on the medial side.

Any reason why my calf would start to hurt? It started this morning. It's numbish/tingling and a constant pain/throbbing.

I took off the bandages today. I'm going to be leaving the ace wrap on for school (7:20-2:30). Anyone think I can make it all day with just 1 lortab in the morning and no icing?

*update, my calf is starting to hurt more than my knee. It's a constant pain and tender to the touch. Could It be a blood clot? What do I do?
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 01, 2012, 01:36:35 PM
9/30
I realized that I couldn't stay at my house if I didn't have someone helping me, or that I knee if I needed something, then I would have help. A few things happened and now  back at my sisters, which is around 30 minutes away.
I'm not going to school today, which is really (10/1). I still can't pick my leg up to crutch. I'm hoping I can tomorrow. Shin and knee are still in a lot of pain. I'm taking lortab every 4 hours, expect at night, then when I wake up I'll take one if its been long enough
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 03, 2012, 12:53:15 AM
10/2
Went to the doctor today, the whole house woke up sick. I've had a fever all day, highest was 101.9. I'm going to get an ultra sound on my calf tomorrow to check for a blood clot. Knee still hurts, and its staring to itch.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: Teacher2Many on October 03, 2012, 01:48:48 AM
First...hope you feel better!  Being sick during recovery truly s*cks!

Keep us posted on the ultrasound results.  Blood clots are nothing to mess with so the sooner it's either diagnosed or ruled out, the better.  I did wonder that when you said about the calf pain and tenderness.  Hopefully it's not the issue but if so, know they're easily treated with injections and oral meds. 
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 03, 2012, 01:42:18 PM
@teacher2many
Thank you! I feel better today! Yesterday was horrible! My regular doctor said he doesn't think it is a blood clot, but he wants to be positive it's not. My calf sometimes hurts more than my knee!

5 days post op. my sister and my brother n law went to work today, so i washed my hair in the sink. I have missed 3 days of school, i plan on going back tomorrow. I am still taking lortab every 4 hours. My sister called my doctor yesterday and I can start taking 2 every 4 hours because of my pain. My doctor never told me to bend my knee, so I haven't. I am keeping my ace wrap on, to help with swelling, and to remind myself not to bear weight.

**We cancelled the ultrasound. I don't have a fever any more and it doesn't hurt as bad.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 04, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
First day of school in 3 days. I have missed 3 tests and a quiz
I took a lortab when I woke up and I will take another one when I leave, that will be my last one till I leave.
I'm really scared someone will hit my knee, so I'm wearing this black ice wrap (with no ice in it) over my ace wrap, so people see it and if someone does hit it, there's a little padding.

Wish me luck :(

School was horrible. I forgot how exhausting crutching around school was. I took a lortab when I woke up at 6 then another one before I left at 7. I WAS IN SO MUCH PAIN ALL DAY. I'll just call my dad tomorrow if I need medicine. This morning i asked my sister to get my leg out the car and i forgot to remind her to bring my leg all the way to the ground, so halfway in the air, she dropped it. i cursed so loudly. My doctor never told me to bend my leg, so I'm not and when I was crutching back to my sisters car to go home, my foot on my bad leg got caught under me and my knee kind of bent, I was almost in tears.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 06, 2012, 02:35:33 AM
One week post op!

Still nearly as swollen as it was after surgery. My knee is starting to itch, which is the incisions healing. Well I can't scratch because it hurts my knee when I try.

I noticed 4 dots (small like shot dots) on my knee. But I'm pretty sure I didn't get shots, or not 4 of them in my knee during surgery. I remember reading somewhere that they made them for something during surgery but I forgot and I can't find the article anymore.

Anyone know what it is?
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 07, 2012, 03:47:15 PM
9 days post op
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 11, 2012, 12:32:15 AM
I was getting worried that I was suppose to be bending my knee, so my grandmaw called them today and they said yes and that I can weight bear as tolerated.
I'm so behind! It's 2 weeks on Friday and I haven't bent my leg at all. It's going to be horrible when I start PT

My steri strips started coming up so I pulled them off. One was healed. One was halfway healed. And the other one was filly open. I put bandaids on all of them but left the strips on the open one.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 13, 2012, 02:36:21 PM
I am finally 2 weeks and a day post op!

I'm down to one crutch, I was suppose to be off of them yesterday, but it's not working out. I can put weight on my knee (hurts a ton) but I can't bend it enough to walk normally, I have to swing my leg around.

I start PT on Wednesday. I'm kind of scared. My doctor told my parent's that there was only two place by me that did his "protocol" for this surgery, thankfully one of them was the place I went to last year.

I am still having to take pain meds around every 5 hours. I can't take any at school. So I take one in the morning, when I get home, then as needed. (I forgot to take one yesterday, and boy oh boy, I was in some pain)

(Picture was taken yesterday. Left knee is sunburnt. You might even be able to see the many dots, which I found more of them under the steri strips. The longest cut is the one closest to my thigh)
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 15, 2012, 11:48:58 PM
First post op appointment today. (I started walking yesterday with a huge limp, my knee won't bend enough to walk normally)

He came in and he immediately said okay lay back and lets see how this bending is. I think maybe I can get 15-20 degrees flexion on my own) So he had me go to the end of the table and he made my leg drop, which was absolutely horrible and he held it and dropped a little more. I ended up getting 40 degrees with his help.
He had me go back to the end of the table and do a SLR. I couldn't. My leg wouldn't even move. He said I need to get that done. He asked me if I was on crutches and I said no, I was suppose to get off them Friday, but I did yesterday. HE IS MAKING ME GET BACK ON THEM! He said he wants my knee to fully recover and my leg is way too weak to be walking.
The dots on my knee is from him bringing the suture in and out. He said I had so many because he would do one, but then he didn't like it so he took it out. He showed me all the pictures. My MPML was really loose so he was surprised that he had too put 3 sutures instead of one.
He asked me to show him how I walk, and he was like oh no no no, you are not walking like that. And when we got out the room, he was mocking my walk and laughing lol
I go back in a month. He said I am doing fine for being 2 weeks out on this type of surgery. PT Wednesday.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 18, 2012, 12:34:12 AM
First day at PT..almost 3 weeks since surgery..KICKED MY ASS

They were all disappointed to see me since I had another surgery. He did my ROM on both legs. My left one was a little under what it was suppose to be and my right one was 35. He did some other tests to see how strong it was, well weak should be the word lol

I did my "homework" exercises.. I had to do a stretching calf one with a towel thing, quad sets, knee flexion with the towel, hip abduction, and SLRS. I couldn't lift my leg up, so he basically did them for me.

Then I went to the nubike, a lot of older people use it. I was on it for about 9 minutes.

Then i had the option to do stem and ice, rushin, or more exercises. I let him choose and he chose more exercises. So he made my stand back up and lift my leg out, sideways, and backwards. Then I went back on the table and I had to use my glutes to push my ankle down and then do like a sideways raise.

"if you thought today was tough, you have something coming at you"
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: martussa on October 18, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
Hello, good luck with your PT! I know it's hard but it should get better day by day, so don't give up! I'm only 4 days post op, so I'm behind you, anxiously waiting for my PT- but also scared as hell!
Do you have special brace or no?
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 18, 2012, 08:09:14 PM
@martussa

What did you have done? This PT is nothing compared to the one I had last year after my other surgery. I didn't get an immobilizer, which I'm thinking they forgot to give me one. My PT thought my tan lines were from it, but it was from the ace wrap.
I wear my brace I got before surgery with my old doctor, i thought I was going to play soccer, but it didn't work out.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on October 24, 2012, 01:29:23 AM
25 DAYS POST OP TODAY!

I can officially get off of crutches unless I think I need one at school. My SLRS are pretty bad but i'm lifting my leg up. It also feels like my medial side, something is going to pop, but he said that's because it was so loose before, this is how it should be and it's normal.
When I flex my quad there's nothing there at all haha. I'm walking with a terrible limp which is hurting my hip.
I was also told that I hyper extend both of my knee, especially my right knee, so I need to try to work on it. I asked my PT how long until I'm healed and he said 5-6 months and 6-7 months until i could play soccer if I was going to play.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on November 02, 2012, 11:27:25 PM
I am still limping and still have some pain on my medial side.
I have this hard bump on my knee. (looks bigger in person) I noticed it a few days ago. I waited a few to see if it was going to go away before I told my therapist

He moved it around and messed with it and said it is prolly a suture (one of them from him tightening up my MPML) trying to come up. He didnít really say how it will go away. He did say it was weird.
I will ask on my OS appointment on the 15th

And girl I know at school had the same surgery as me and she had the same thing on her knee. The trainer thought it was a piece of bone, it ended up being a suture.

And guess what! From the research Iíve done on the computer I was suppose to have an immobilizer after surgery! On my first post op appointment he said, whereís your brace? He looked confused. I thought he was talking about my regular breg brace Iíve been wearing. Then at PT they thought my tan was from my immobilizer, and I said I didnít get one. The girl I know who had the bump just got her other knee done and she is in one. (Last time at the doctor he was asking if I knew her and that she had the same surgery done as me)
I will ask him when I go

Overall I'm pretty positive this surgery as worked! My knee hasn't popped out yet.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: travelthomas on November 03, 2012, 03:22:21 AM
@teache2many

I just did it, without one, and it was a horrible experience. My sister, her husband, her friend, and her friends boyfriend helped me. They put my leg in a garbage back and tape the top. They put a step stool in the tub. I sat on the edge and put my left leg in. Then I stood up leaning on my crutch.† Someone took my leg and tried to put it down, but it won't bend and there wasn't enought room. So they got my nephews bumbo (sitting thing for babies) put it upside down and we lowered my leg on to it. I took my shirt and bra off before the water turned on. Then I took a shower with my shorts and stuff still on. After I was done I put my clean clothes on, left my wet bottoms on. They all came back in and I moved myself to the edge and someone took my bad leg and lowered it to the ground and then I got my bottoms on

Many tears and selective words came out lol. I have no idea how I will do this when I go back home tomorrow.

Hear I am 53 years old, and I was sobbing because of the pain in the hospital, after the external fixation surgery. The nurses gave me the strongest medication they had, after contacting my OS, and told me, "This won't get rid of all the pain, but it will make it so you don't care."

I've been through a lot of pain in my life, at 42 I thought I was dying because of Celiac Disease, and I had every symptom under the sun, but it was nothing compared to a broken knee from a lateral injury. I fell down into a step stool that a board knocked from under me, and my knee broke sideways in the metal tubing.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on November 09, 2012, 02:50:50 AM
1 month and 11 days post op

-My SLRS aren't straight, but I can lift my leg up
-I walk with a tad limp still
-I am now doing stool walks, which is when you sit on this rolling stool and pull yourself around
-Leg press is on 45..i push with mostly my left leg
-I am still doing russian. When I do streches/excerises like kick outs, my leg uncontrollably shakes from being fatigued
-I am still having some pain, especially at night. I sleep with my legs bent, and I wake up and my knee is stuck.
-I still have that "bump" there
-I got to 95 degrees flexion, and i'm -3 I think on extension
-I can't straighten my leg at all
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on November 15, 2012, 11:15:20 PM
My appointment was today, i went and signed in.
The lady at the desk then informs me that there was no appointments this afternoon because the dr was at the hospital

..Right when I got my appointment card, I put it in my phone. And I remember the lady telling me, oh it will be exactly a month since my last appointment, which was on the 15th

I have to go monday at 1. I miss therapy today for nothing.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on November 20, 2012, 12:26:49 AM
Went to the doctor today!

He was not happy that I could not straighten my leg. He put me in an immobilizer. I have to wear it basically all the time. The bump is a suture that will eventually go back down. I have "INTENSE" therapy now to straighten my leg. I'm pretty positive that this will help since I will be wearing it at night.

I got another prescription for loratab and a prescription for valium? I don't know why that.

We scheduled my left knee surgery for December 7th, a Friday.

If I can do it twice, I can do it one more time!
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: Teacher2Many on November 20, 2012, 04:19:29 AM
What do you mean when you say he wasn't happen that you can't straighten your leg?  Your previous posted listed -3 degrees of extension so is he not happy with extension or active extension with straightening (such as trying to kick your leg out after sitting with it over the edge of the bed, table, etc.).
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on November 20, 2012, 06:17:39 AM
@Teacher2Many

I can't straighten my leg by myself. I think the -3 meant that I still had 3 degrees to get to extension. (Not positive, I just remember my therapist telling me I had -3 on extension)

I can't straighten it doing SLRS, kick outs, or just having my leg on the table.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: Teacher2Many on November 21, 2012, 03:37:26 AM
You can't do SLR or you just have an extension lag?  My suggestion is to sleep with two pillows propped under your ankle as this will work on natural extension but make sure it's under your ankle and not your knee or calf.  Even doing this when watching tv, etc. will work-not the most comfortable sensation but definitely helps to get those last few degrees of extension back.  Not sure why the brace though, as your muscles don't work as much and tend to atrophy more. 

Hope you get those last few degrees back-sometimes it seems so simple as it's only a few more but those last few (either in extension or flexion) are the absolute hardest!
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on November 21, 2012, 04:00:00 PM
@Teacher2Many

I can do a SLR, it's just not a straight one. I've tried every single thing to keep my leg straight especially at night. They said they are pretty sure the brace is working since I could not sleep and it hurts a ton more.

(i've attached a picture of my bent leg raise)

Thank you!

Happy Thanksgiving Kneegurus
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on December 03, 2012, 12:53:49 AM
(I went on nov 29th)
My doctor is happy with my extension. I wasnít told whether or not to keep wearing my ROM brace so I will ask PT. Iím supposed to be at full flexion and Iím not. So thatís what I need to work on.

My pre admit appointment is dec 6 at 9:30. Surgery is so far the 7th, but If his wife doesnít have her baby then they will induce her on the 7th. So then it will be re scheduled.  He told me to bring this ROM brace to the hospital and I will be wearing that on my left leg when i wake up.

I asked him if it was normal for my knees, hips, elbows, and ankles hurt and he said I need to ask my regular dr to test me for Rheumatoid arthritis, or i think I may have EDS.

4 more days!
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on December 06, 2012, 02:54:06 AM
I'm going to make a new topic for my left knee surgery.

Today in PT I wanted to do something new. I did the treadmill for the first time, walking backwards, on 2.5 mph for 5 minutes. Single leg wobble board. 90 on leg press. 45 on single leg. 30 pushing down on hamstring curls, 10 pulling up. Then he brought me to the arm lifting weight bar thing and put it the same height of my head and I had to squat under it and keep going to both sides. I did all my regular matt stretches but they added the bolster pulls.

Tomorrow will be my last therapy appointment doing everything I can with both legs. I will be going to therapy for my right knee while being on crutches for my left one after surgery. I don't know how it is going to work out haha
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on December 08, 2012, 01:30:23 AM
This knee is holding up pretty good for being on crutches for my other one. But i've only been around my house. If I go out the house i'll wear my breg brace

It feels pretty weird to be sleeping with this knee not straight.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on December 11, 2012, 01:47:30 AM
my right knee is not liking all the weight from crutches
i can't do much a PT. everything has to be single leg.

Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on December 20, 2012, 02:15:01 AM
It's been a year since my first knee surgery! I'm so glad that i'm not with that doctor anymore. He never really wanted to talk about my pain. It was always random stuff not pertaining to my appointment. He was a nice man, just not a good doctor. I've heard nothing but bad things from people about him. It was an exploratory scope. I had MRI's done and nothing showed that would be causing me that much pain. He ended up finding my meniscus was torn in several places, he shaved it, and he removed some plica (bad tissue). It was around a 1-3 month recovery. I was in more pain at 6 months than I was more the surgery! I got kicked out of PT for not progressing. I finally said to hell with it and decided to make an appointment with another doctor in the area. He knew what was wrong with me just by asking where my pain was and my xrays. †I had surgery by him just by seeing him one time in the office. That's how desperate I was with my knee pain. My knee caps were tilted because my MPML ligament in both knees were loose. I've gotten both knees done in less then 3 months apart from each other. I've had a few complications but i'm happy with the results. I may have Rheumatoid arthritis or EDS because my hips, ankles, elbows, and shoulders hurt and are loose. I'm still waiting to do blood work. On the scale for EDS i score a 7 out of 9.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on December 28, 2012, 02:43:14 AM
Tomorrow I am 3 months post op.
I've been having this weird pain in my right knee.. I can't explain it. Most of my pain now is at the joint line.

I haven't started anything new in therapy because of my left knee. I am doing single leg squats and heel touches.. but they both hurt a ton.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on January 02, 2013, 01:57:55 AM
I'm having more pain in this knee than my recently post op left knee.

Lots of my pain is around the joint line I guess..
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on January 16, 2013, 02:19:10 AM
My knee still pops out.
I don't have full flexion to my butt yet.. it's been almost 4 months

I starting doing wall sits with the ball, wall slides with the ball, and chair holds with the ball.
that's all ive done new.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on January 17, 2013, 12:45:22 AM
Measured today at PT.

135 degrees flexion and 0 extension.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: Teacher2Many on January 17, 2013, 01:53:14 AM
Awesome!
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on January 17, 2013, 12:49:12 PM
@Teacher2Many
Yup! But my knee caps are still popping out!
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on January 26, 2013, 04:25:06 AM
my right knee still pops out..
leg pressing 75 on leg press on my right leg

i didn't get to play soccer last year because of my 1st knee surgery. i didn't get to play this year because of the 2 i had. i was really sad. so my coach and the gym coach made up a plan to somehow get me in the senior night game. i had asked my trainer and she said no because i wasn't released. i cried.. so my dad calls my doctor today and asks. our regular trainer wasn't going to be at the game tonight, it was going to be my doctors assistant man who is a trainer. he said he doesn't see why not, but i wasn't allowed to warm up, and my doctor agreed. And i still don't know how to run. i got to wear my shin guards under my big rom brace! my coach had talked to the other team's coaches, the refs, and our trainer again. the plan worked out as: since we got first kick off, i would be playing forward. she passed it up to me, and i kicked to a player on the other team, and she kicked it out, so i could sub out. I was never so happy in my life.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on January 28, 2013, 12:38:22 PM
4 months post op!

seems like it flew by. so sad that they both still pop out.

i go to the doctor in a few days.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on February 13, 2013, 11:29:20 PM
i'm basically done with therapy for my right leg. i have around 190 for flexion.

my knee cap still pops out and now the back of my knee hurts.

i'm not satisfied with the surgery at all.
it's almost been 5 months.
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on February 25, 2013, 11:59:37 PM
I'll be 5 months post op on the 28th! I can't believe it's been so long.

today at therapy my PT took some cream and a butter knife thing (without the ridges) and scraped and pressed on both of my knees to try to break up scar tissue and some stitches.

I still can't bend all the way to my butt, but i'm not going to therapy for that knee anymore.

I asked my dad to call the doctor to see about the bledsoe 20.50 brace
Title: Re: Medial Patellomeniscal Ligament (MPML) Plication
Post by: destinycrane on March 18, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
Had my appointment today, i'm almost 6 months post op

I got this knee brace:
Donjoy Tru-Pull Advanced System

I'm done with therapy for now, we're gonna see how I go without it.

He said he wanted to see me back in 3 months, but the lady gave me an appointment in 3 weeks lol

The PA wants me to call them and tell them how this knee brace is going. They want to start using this one because the Donjoy Reaction one isn't good. So i'm sort of a guinea pig. He said there's a good chance at the brace working for me because my knee caps are tilted.