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The OSTEOARTHRITIS DEPARTMENT => KNEE ARTHRITIS - Injections into the joint => Topic started by: AndyB on June 20, 2012, 01:09:07 AM

Title: regenokine
Post by: AndyB on June 20, 2012, 01:09:07 AM
Hi, My name is Andrew I had a radical synovectamy about 20 years ago and 4 arthrocopies since then and have arthirits on my knee, I am 40 years old now and just went to Germany for injections at the Wehling Hartmann clinic.  It was going great and I really got along well with everyone however on the last day of injections I started experiencing terrible pains starting that evening.    I have been  in utter agony since I returned home to Florida  and I am only being told to see a pain specialist and get one cortisone shot.  I have been taking pain meds and had one cortisone shot since my return on the adivse but this is beyond excruciating.  I also had another mri andthe images look the same but it feels like the pain is worsening.   I had the injections about 3 weeks ago and am truly in agony and scared.  The knee also looks the same.   Any thoughts as to what may have occurred or if this should simmer down would be appreciated.
Title: Re: regenokine
Post by: Kaputt_Knee on June 20, 2012, 06:15:56 AM
Have you been in contact with the Wehling clinic about the pain? I would have thought that they should be supporting you in this even if it is only by email or phone call.

This procedure is not yet licensed in the USA yet, so I doubt if anyone has much experience beyond reading of it. I believe it is similar to the Regenexx treatment, so maybe you could contact the Centaro-Schlutz clinic in Colorado to see if they can offer any support or advice.

As for seeing changes already in the knee, a little premature don't you think? I don't think even the most fervent supporters believe it to be a magic bullet!

Good luck I hope the pain settles down soon. It may well be that the stress of the return journey has played a part in this and now that you are home again, things should quieten down. If they don't then you do need to contact the Wehling clinic and ask whether this is a common problem and what should you do about it.

Title: Re: regenokine
Post by: Jeanknee on July 13, 2012, 03:59:27 AM


What the NY doctors told me when I was considering Regenokine/Orthokine was that if I had the injections close together, say 6 of them every other day, then there would be pain involved because of the increased volume of liquid in the knee. I did mine once a week for 6 weeks and it was great.  I've never heard of this causing pain. Maybe there is another issue? I definitely agree with the other poster that you should go back to Dr. Wehling or at least contact him.

Just to correct the misconception of availability in the US - it is available in New York at NY SportsMed ( www.nysportsmed.com) and in Los Angeles at LifeSpan Medicine (http://www.lifespanmedicine.com/regenokine-program).  I had the injections myself in May of this year and had 100% pain relief after the first injection.
Title: Re: regenokine
Post by: AndyB on July 15, 2012, 11:54:48 PM
I have contacted them but they are not sure what the problem is.  The pain is literally so bad its unbearable since I returned.  They gave me injections every day for five days there and I also was told I could use an eliptical machine and did so after day 3 4 and 5.  I am now thinking that could also have led to a flare up. It has been 2 months now and it seems to be worsening. 
Title: Re: regenokine
Post by: Doctodd on August 07, 2012, 12:46:59 PM
Have a doctor take a look at your knee, preferably with an ultrasound in the office. 
Title: Re: regenokine
Post by: AndyB on August 11, 2012, 09:50:19 PM
I was aware of lifespan and nysportsmed but was advised to go to Germany and I wish I had not as the pain is still terrible.  I had pains before but nothing like this and the injections were daily and nobody seems to have a clue here.
Title: Re: regenokine
Post by: AndyB on August 11, 2012, 09:53:10 PM
I have had several docs look at the knee but none with ultrasound in the office, i was not aware of that.
Title: Re: regenokine
Post by: diggz1 on June 05, 2014, 03:22:41 AM
AndyB, sorry about your pain from the orthokine, did it ever resolve?
Title: Re: regenokine
Post by: daniel on November 23, 2014, 06:13:22 PM
I tried a course of 4 shots of Orthokine a few months ago. I only felt little discomfort for a few days after every shot. After that it didn't get worse, but I haven't felt much benefit neither. So to me, it was a waste of time and money.