DIARIES => Post op diaries (>300 posts) => Topic started by: BigSkyGirl on April 25, 2008, 06:54:58 PM

Title: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on April 25, 2008, 06:54:58 PM
Well, I thought i would start my diary as I find I have to jump around on everyone else's that I horned on in the last few weeks.  I just want to say again how thankful I am to T, Mrs. B, BNL10yr, Lenore, and everyone else who helped me, it sure is nice having you guys to talk with.


02/11/08 - tore LK ACL, MCL, fractured fibula skiing in CA, had MRI to confirm and began pre-op rehab then.

04/14/08 - ACLr using own patellar tendon

04/21/08 - began post-op rehab

I had an eventful couple of days, yesterday was day 2 of PT and then I went shopping for flowers (morale booster) and groceries (tummy booster) and today was 1st post-op visit to Dr.  I also went out to lunch with hubby and MIL.  (BTW - my leg has let me know both days that it does not appreciate all the activity, by last night it was screaming at me and tonight it is a little painful but I popped a couple of tylenol and I'm lying in bed icing now so it is feeling better)

PT - Ext -3, Flex 99.  Yahoo!  Pre-op my numbers were ext -3 and 126 flex so the PT was happy and said the flexion will come.  LOL at the elec stim comments - I had some of that pre-op but I think it's to get your quads to fire and mine are doing well so they haven't mentioned it to me lately.

DR - his tech came in and said "take off the brace and I'll get the tool for the staples"  GULP!!!  I thought of you T!  She came back in with this little mini plow-like looking thing in her hand and proceeded to pop out the staples - all 15 of them.  You were right T - it really wasn't bad at all.

The Dr came in and spent a few moments surveying his handiwork and proclaimed it good, no signs of infection or anything else but healing happening.  I told him about the ext/flex numbers and he was like "wow", then he put his hand on the top of my quads and I got a 2nd "wow" when I was able to tense my muscle for him.  Two "wow's" in one visit - that will be hard to top!!  He told me I didn't have to wear the brace at all and as far as the crutches he wants me to be walking normally before I shed them.  Whether that's tomorrow or next week he said it didn't matter just that I make sure I develop a normal gait.  I was glad 'cause for me that takes off the pressure of getting rid of them.  He maintains that there is nothing wrong with using them and he'd rather see me walking normally then limping around without them.  Kind of motivates me to get walking more actually - I guess he is a reverse pysch as well as OS........ 

So tomorrow is day 3 of PT with many more sessions to come, the extension is killing me but I am so wanting to get to 0.  My PT jokes (I think)  about sitting on my knee and the OS said I could get a backpack and put stuff in it and put it on my knee while it was out straight.......I looked at him and was like "yeah, sure thing doc!!"   

Mrs B - since we both had the patellar tendon graft I wanted to say that he also mentioned that I have no restrictions on bending and that in order to lessen the chance of scar tissue I should really work on the flex as well.  Has anyone on your end said that as well?  Just when I think I am clearing one hurdle another one pops up - I never really thought of scar tissue.  I still have some loss of sensation on the outer part of the incision.  The area close to the inside of knee cap has re-gained feeling so that was good.

Well today was PT day 3:

Word of the day is SETBACK!!!  Ext was crappy the PT didn't tell me but it was around -12...!  Flexion was good but she has told me that it is not the important issue here, extension is everything!!

The only thing I can think of is that I just overdid it the past couple of days.  I went out shopping and eating and got caught up on paperwork and such and didn't ice, elevate or any of that.  I also spent time on heel slides and such which caused a pain behind my knee last night.  The PT says that's my hammies being tight and my homework for this weekend is to work on extension and hamstring stretches.

All I can say is BUMMER!!! I really felt like things were going well and now I feel so depressed.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on April 25, 2008, 07:00:27 PM

I think it is normal to see some fluctuation as you improve.  Don't try to find a reason to blame yourself. You are working hard and making great progress.  Don't give this more thought than it deserves.  Just keep up the good work and you will be just fine!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on April 25, 2008, 07:10:10 PM
BSG - Bummer...but I'm sure you will be at 0 before you know it!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MrsB on April 25, 2008, 11:36:20 PM
Sorry about the setback BSG. Extension and flexion fluctuate, it's normal.
Work hard on that extension this weekend and I am sure it will be back by your next PT visit.

Thinking good extended thoughts for you.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on April 26, 2008, 12:22:50 AM
Thanks Everybody!!

I don't know why I am so hard on myself but it was soooooo frustrating this afternoon.    :'(   My knee is still real stiff and sore in the back.  I guess I will work on my hammies this weekend.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on April 26, 2008, 01:33:13 PM
Hi BSG.  Great to see you've started your own postop diary.  I'm watching you!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on April 26, 2008, 05:41:10 PM
Well, after all the fretting and drama of last night it seems my knee is feeling a bit better today.   :)

I got up about 8am and went downstairs to look for my hinged brace.  After a search and getting breakfast, paper, and coffee I plopped on the couch and set the brace to full extension.  After the caffeine infusion I was able to move around and puttered on the deck watering the plants (morale booster).  I am going to continue to use the brace when I am sitting around this weekend to help me with the extension and ice, ice, ice.

Pain is practically nil now, all that happens now is my leg gets a little (ok, alot) tired by early evening and I pop a Tylenol for that.

Sleeping almost thru the night now which is nice.  I find keeping a pillow between my knees helps and for me I sleep on my right side.  I had a torn MCL so I think that may still be healing as when I try to lie on my left side the knee feels a little odd.

So, it seems as if things are better than yesterday and after all, isn't that the plan?!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MrsB on April 26, 2008, 11:37:35 PM
Woohoo! Glad things are better today!!

Nothing like getting outside for a little to make you feel better, huh?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on April 27, 2008, 10:26:50 PM
Apr 27 - 13 days post-op

Well, today was good.  When I woke up my knee felt pretty good, usually it's kind of stiff and I have to move slowly at first.  It is still hard for me to do the SLRs tho'.  I am beginning to worry - well, not worry - but the  leg sure is weak.  I'll ask my PT tomorrow.

Hubby made me pancakes for breakfast - his 1st time but they were good and I have learned that when someone else is doing things for you - don't complain or supervise too much.

We went out to the grocery store and I am getting around much better now - my OS doesn't want me off the crutches until I am walking normally but it is a real drag with 2, I spent alot of time today putting most of the weight on my leg and using one crutch for support.

We are home now and my leg is letting me know it did not appreciate all the activity despite the 2 tylenol I took earlier.  You know what tho' - I think that's ok 'cause I figure that at least I am out doing something and if my leg wants to bark a little that's ok - I'm just gonna tell it to deal with it, we still have all my exercises to go for today.

You are so right Mrs. B, getting outside is such a morale booster!!!

Well, time for the brace extension torture session.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on April 28, 2008, 09:59:09 PM
PT session #4:

Well, after a weekend of self-inflicted discomfort I headed to the PT session this am with much trepidation.  My knee felt pretty stiff and I thought "great she's gonna sit on it!"

When I got there we skipped the bike and went straight to the, exercises.

The usual, SLRs but this time she put 5-6 lbs on my upper calf, as if I don't already have trouble with the lag, but she had me do mostly the abductors/abductors rather then on my back.  I have to say sometimes it seems like I cannot lift my leg off the sheet at home but then I get to PT and voila it's a miracle!

Then we progressed to some additional exercises:

sissy squats to 45 degrees
sitting on edge of bed letting leg dangle and raising lower leg to about 40 degrees
using the thera-band - loop behind knee and stand with both feet on floor - let knee bend up on toes and then push knee back into band

add that to

quad sets
toe raises
hamstring stretches
patellar mobs
sitting with leg in passive extension constantly

I then got to walk around the room on one crutch with all the PTs and PT students and another ACLr patient watching (she's about a month ahead of me), for some reason when I walk with one crutch my right ankle pops - loudly.  So I'm step, pop, step, pop, step, of the PT students looks at my PT and asks if that's my knee.  We all laughed and I'm like no just the next thing to come to rehab for....

Then came measurement time..... ext -4, flex 100.  The PT was pretty happy with flexion but as always the ext is an issue, we discussed where I am in the rehab protocol and I actually seem to be right where I should be.  She wants me to work on the extension - duh - and said I probably have another few weeks to get it before it becomes a critical issue.  She really thinks it will come so here I sit with my ankle on a rolled towel and ice pack on the knee.

Hope everyone is well, speak soon!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on April 29, 2008, 12:05:31 PM
Hey BSG,  Sounds like you are doing great with the PT.  I love the step pop, step pop.  I get snap, snap, snap, snap when I do squats because both knees make noise now.  Keep up the good work.  You're doing really well!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: TtheArab on April 29, 2008, 03:36:14 PM

Sounds like a good PT session. I am concerned about ext too tho as I just dont think it is where it should be and I don't really get measurment like you guys. I was also told to stay away from weighted exercise and just let the joint heal until week 6-8.

Well next PT is Friday and I will ask her to measure to be able to share and see what to do next.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on April 30, 2008, 10:43:36 AM
I know people that are months out and still trying to get extension.  Sounds like you guys are all so close.  I wouldn't stress about it.  It will come.  Just keep working at it gradually.  T has the right idea with not stressing that joint too much.  If you were at 20 degrees away I'd be worried but you are all within 5 degrees it sounds like.  That's great for how early on you are. 

BSG, the stiffness/achy feeling may hang around a while.  I still have it even at over 5 months.  Varies with each person.  Keep up the hard work and try not to get discouraged with the slow progress.  It's so monotonous but necessary. 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 01, 2008, 12:52:00 AM
Post-op day 16 - PT session 5

Extension -6, flexion 106.  Seems like what I an gaining in flexion I am losing in extension.

So bummed about the extension - lost a couple of degrees today, my PT says I still have a couple of weeks but she has emphasized from the git-go (pre-op) that extension is king!!

So today we added a few more exercises, good thing I am not working 'cause doing all the exercises twice daily really takes some time.


Stood on mini trampoline and weight-shifted
Stood on bad leg for balance - it was pretty tough but it was FWB so maybe I can toss the sticks soon
Sat on exercise ball and lifted good leg balancing on bad leg - that was pretty easy

And......everyone's favorite.........

Lying prone on bed with knees hanging off edge to work on extension - it's actually way funner than the brace locked at 0.......not!!

I saw another patient getting fitted for a dyna-splint and I wondered if that will be me in a few weeks......
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 01, 2008, 01:30:26 AM
BSG - I'm sure you will get your extension soon.  Instead of having the brace locked at 0, maybe you should try the laying prone thing at home.  I honestly don't think that the brace locked at 0 is really 0.  That is just my opinion.  You can also sit on the floor with a towel (or something tall) under you foot/ankle while doing quad sets.  Try this out.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on May 01, 2008, 01:39:50 AM

I have been doing the lying prone thing from day one and I think it should be called cruel and unusual punishment.  Period!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on May 01, 2008, 02:37:12 AM
BSG, one exercise that is part of my nightly PT routine until I have full extension is to sit on the couch with my heal on the coffee table.  My butt should be far enough on the edge of the couch to allow a full extension.  If you don't feel it this way, you can add some weight onto your knee like an ice pack or something.  My ice pack is heavy enough to push mine down.  So that is what works for me.  It hurts, but it supposedly good for you!  I had surgery 4 months ago and still dealing with extension.  I am having unusual issues though and also a different surgery than you guys.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 01, 2008, 03:14:37 PM
I agree with you BNL I don't think it is really 0.  I do find it straightens my leg a bit but it's such a hassle to get in and out not having a straight leg is not a hassle....I'd better rethink my priorities!

Bruce you are right about the cruel and unusual part but it did help me get to -3 pre-op and maybe that''s why you are already at 0 so I have resolved today to spend time lying around on my stomach doing nothing......never thought I'd miss working so much!

Farrah - I have been following your ordeal and I just have to say - you go girl - I am rooting for you!!!  I guess I am going to have to take the OS up on his put weight on knee suggestion....     :-[  Funny how I sit on the couch with my LK on table and it's so tight and uncomfortable and then I put my RK out and it's like I could sit there all day.  Is it the hammies that are holding things up?  I don't get any pain or anything other than discomfort in the back of the knee, I wonder if heat on the back of the knee would loosen it up?  Up until now I have just been icing all over.

Sometimes I want to tell the PT to just sit on it, literally!   ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 02, 2008, 11:00:22 PM
End of week 3:

Well, I hope the insurance company doesn't ask what is happening at PT 'cause they will probably cut me off for non-advancement (is that a word?).

Today's session I called Groundhog Day.  We started with the ever popular towel under the achilies and the PT performing CPR on my knee.  Then we progressed to her putting my calf on her shoulder keeping my leg straight with one hand on my foot keeping it dorsi-flexed while the other was on my knee.  After what seemed like a few hours we then had the big finale where she pushed on my calf with her shoulder and pressed on my knee with her hand.  I just about went out the window....  Let's do it again....not!!

After all that ext was -6   >:(  and I got what I am now calling "the lecture" about ext and how it will lead to problems and yada, yada, yada work on it!

Then we went onto the same 'ol exercises but today I had some pain under my knee-cap and upon FWB at a point where my knee moves thru the ROM then once it was passed that point no pain.  She didn't like that so we stopped and went to the shuttle, no pain there.

So today was a 3 steps back kinda day, in fact this whole week was one big backwards movement.  I'm kind of past being upset about it I am more angry about it.  I sit here day after day in the extension torture position and stretch my hammies and I'm losing ext - I guess I'm not doing it right.  This weekend I'll be in the prone position every chance I get, it's kind a challenge tho'.  I am 6'2" with 36" inseam - there are not many things that I can hang my legs off..   ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on May 02, 2008, 11:45:24 PM
BSG, thanks for your support! It really helps a lot!! 

I hope your extension improves.  Did you ever try my suggestion?  Did you ask your PT about it?  It is painful, but it is suppose to help.  After I do that exercise, I can't bend my knee for about 30 minutes without pain.  I assume that's normal.  I do think that your hamstrings can prevent extension.  Are you doing a lot of hamstring stretching?  I think if you have any tightness, it could prevent the extension.  Now if it hurts to fully extend while trying to walk, then that could be a problem too...that is my problem.  It hurts to straighten my leg all the way when I walk, so I don't.  I don't care right now.  I will eventually get it back if they can figure out where my pain is.  Unfortunately my knees naturally don't straighten right now b/c of the 6 years of knee problems I guess.  My PT always compares my surgery knee extension with my other leg, and always forgets that my nonsurgery knee isn't at 0 anyway.  Oh well. 

I wish you the best of luck with your extension.  Are you still on crutches?  Just curious.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 02, 2008, 11:46:33 PM
BSG - Sorry to hear about your progress report.  Don't you love that lecture?  Today my lecture was on swelling, and you can't get stronger until swelling goes down...blah blah blah.  I would pay money to see a PT be a PT patient.  Now that would be fun to see  :)
I've heard the bar is a great place to gain extension.  I say our "extension party" should be held at the local Irish Pub  ;)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 03, 2008, 12:51:25 AM
Trying to do an exercise bike at 6'2"?  Wow!  You're never going to get any ROM out of that sucker.  You'll have to find another way to gain ROM for flexion.  I don't think the seat on the bikes go up that far do they?  I needed the midget version at only 5'4".  I have the seat pulled up so far on my recumbent bike my face is almost stuck to the monitor. 

Don't worry about not getting all of your extension yet.  It will come slowly.  The swelling always slows things down.  It doesn't really sound like you went 3 days backward.  It just feels like it.  I say on those crappy PT days just go home and have a good cry.  Always makes me feel better.  And keep the will make you work even harder tomorrow.  If it makes you feel any better, I have extension but my flexion is still only around 120 even at 5 months out.  It's coming ever so slowly! Ugh!

Hang in there.  Tomorrow will be a better rehab day.  Sounds like you are all struggling.  (Accept for that show-off "T" of course--are you listening T?)  Ha! Ha!  You know I'm just kidding, right?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MrsB on May 03, 2008, 01:15:10 AM
BSG, I agree with PT will be better!  We are all getting closer but it's a long road.
Oh, I love your CPR description, that's the best way to describe that technique I have ever heard. The one I loathe is where they push down right above your knee and pull up with your ankle... oooowww!

BNL I second the irish pub extension party.... yuuuuuummmm.....beeeer.  ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 03, 2008, 01:38:28 AM
You know, I'm thinking that several pints of black and tan would probably do wonders for our extension   :D  There is an Irish Pub by the house - meet you guys there in an hour......
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 04, 2008, 05:02:18 PM
Hi Farrah - I do sit on the couch with my leg on the coffee table, I found it helps if I also put my good leg up BC then I feel just how tight the bad leg is.  I usually sit there until I can no longer stand it and flex the knee a bit and then repeat ad infinitum.....  What does your PT say about the extension?  Is this something that ever resolves?  I have seen numerous people when I am out walking with a slightly bent leg and think "that will be me" the PT has also said that in extreme cases they take you back into surgery and put you out just to flex and ext your leg.   ???

My leg is also very stiff after I do the table thing and then that causes me to walk a little, ok - alot, peg-legged.  I have a surefire routine for Halloween if it last that long - I can go as a pirate and just say "arghhhh" while I am walking all peglegged.   :)

I am still on the crutches, I find they help me walk better getting the heel, toe bending leg and actually walking thing going instead of the peg-leg shuffle without them.  I do alot of FWB exercises and I really think it is mostly me being afraid (there I go again) to go without them.  The PT said I should really start weaning from them this week but she also wants me off them only if I am walking properly.

LOL Lenore - I have a very good friend that is 5' nothing and we used to play alot of golf together.  She would always get mad BC I would walk so fast she was just about running.  Everyone always got a kick out of seeing us together.  BTW her husband is 6'3", my hubby is.........5'7"

Mrs. B - I agree the knee/ankle thing is just as bad.  We should start a poll of all the exercises and see which ones are considered the worst.

So, this weekend I went to the mall and then Hubby took me to one of our favorite restaurants where I had a burger and a couple of beers.  The first since the surgery.  I think the beers did help a least in the morale department   ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on May 04, 2008, 05:25:48 PM
Hello BSG, I haven't talked to my PT about my extension in a long time b/c I haven't really been going for the past 4-6 weeks b/c of pain.  I keep comparing my two legs in the mirror to see how bent the surgery one is and it isn't too bad.  I am probably 3-4 degrees off.  One time I measured at PT a few weeks ago and it was 6 degrees off!!!!  My PT flipped out and pushed it down in this contraption and made me hold it for 15 minutes.  I hated that!!  I haven't had to do it in a while.  I hate how working on extension on the coffee table feels afterwards.  It is so badly painful (good painful I guess). 

If your extension is a huge concern after a period time, they can do an MUA...manipulation under anaesthesia. This is where they put you under like they did for surgery and try to force your knee into extension or complete flexion...whichever you are having difficulties with.  I heard this is very painful afterwards, but it helps.  You are still early after surgery, so I am sure you will get it back.  It takes time. 

Thanks for the thoughts posted on my diary :)  It means so much to have so much support on here!!  I never thought a website could help me so much! 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 05, 2008, 10:50:38 AM
Hi BSG,  Sounds like you're still battling the crutches, no crutches issue.  Seems like if you're doing lots of FWB exercises you should be able to get off them really soon.   I know everyone has their opinion on this but trust your PT and OS on that one.  You really need to count on the strength of your legs and develop the correct muscles to walk properly again.  You'll lose the pegleg as the swelling goes down and your extension comes back. 

Burger and beers with the hubby sounds nice.  It's good you're getting out and enjoying life.  I think that's the most important part of rehab.  Have another pint for me!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 05, 2008, 08:12:35 PM
Beginning of week 4 post-op:

PT session #10

Today my knee felt stiff and I was sure the PT's extendometer (what do they call the measuring thingie anyway?) was going to register in the high digits again.  Well, she just put me on the shuttle to warm up and then we measured......-4!!!  Yea!!!!!! That's 3 degrees gained this weekend!!!   :D

She was really pleased and thought it was the prone hang that helped, I think it was the adult beverages I had this weekend but we'll just keep that our little secret.   ;)

The rest of todays session was the same, exercises with the seated resisted hamstring curl added and finally....the stationary bike.

Now I need to work on the flexion a bit - it's always somethin' - I'm at 105 but she said the protocol we are following has me at 120 this week so I left with a little bit of flexion homework and the same ol' extension routine.

So it seems that this weekend something finally went right.  I spent most of the time either in the prone hang or with my knee propped on the coffee table.  I stretched the @#%& out of my hammies and iced, ice, baby.

Oh yeah, almost forgot!!!!  The rest of the April ACLrs are already off the crutches but today she took me down to one and she said we will be stick-free by the end of the week since I was walking so well.  I really have been working on my gait as well as the extension so I guess that goes to show ya that practice may not make perfect but it seems to have made a difference this weekend.

TTFN, off to check up on everyone else's diaries.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 05, 2008, 09:57:29 PM
Way to go BSG!  Those prone hangs feel fantastic!  ::)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MrsB on May 05, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
 ;D ;D ;D Hooray BSG!!! ;D ;D ;D

knew you could do it!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: ski_bunny on May 06, 2008, 04:39:08 AM
I'm exhausted reading it all but it sounds great and I reckon you deserve a compliment  :)
You sound really positive too which is great to hear.
I'm so pleased for you about all your progress. Very impressive and no doubt deserved!
(mind you, I'll quietly admit that I'm having trouble relating to extension and flexion figures ... the numbers don't mean much to me at this point in the game. Not for long though, I'm sure)

I really liked your secret weapon too and have made a mental note to keep a reasonable supply of adult beverages handy  ;D

You'll be so pleased to be off the crutches soon too.
All the best!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 06, 2008, 10:43:55 AM
It's a goniometer (what's a goni?) but I like "extendometer" or "measuring thingie" better.  Ha!  Ha!  I think everyone should be given one for free when they have their surgeries.   Great job on the numbers BSG. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 06, 2008, 03:18:24 PM
Thanks Everyone, it is nice to finally be moving forward.  My goal now is to not lose anything if I can help it.

Ski Bunny - it looks like you have already had the introduction to knee surgery and recovery yourself.  When is your ACLr?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 06, 2008, 04:29:22 PM
They should give us the measuring things at the "class" we should all go to before knee surgery!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on May 06, 2008, 05:23:28 PM
Congrats on your extension!!!  Great job!!  Good work!!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 08, 2008, 01:31:14 AM
PT #11

Well, I got there on one crutch today, I spent alot of time this week walking around the house w/o them and I have to say it feels pretty good.  Pre-op I could feel the instability in the knee and it always felt like I was going to fall, now I can just feel the weakness in my quads.  I don't think I am limping too bad, mostly the knee is stiff and causes the pegleg.

So, today added a new thing.  Not sure what its called but it's a machine with a low pulley and we put the strap around my injured (she told me to stop calling it "bad") leg and I did standing SLR in all quadrants.  The tough part was when I switched to my non-injured (read: good) leg and I had to balance on the - bad (easier to type) one.  After awhile it got easier and I guess thats the goal of this whole thing.

Nowadays since the incision is pretty much healed and the strips are beginning to fall off she spends time massaging the area, boy does that not feel good  :o  I know it has to be done to break up the scar tissue and adhesions but I do this at home in the evenings while watching the tube.

We measured and today it was -5, 110  PT was actually pretty happy with that but I am still hoping to get to 120 by Friday.  I find I have trouble controlling my hammies now so off to work on those.

Oh yeah.......she told me to leave the crutch at home Friday...... :-\
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on May 08, 2008, 01:40:41 AM

Congrats on walking around and feeling good and stable! Hope you get to 120 by Friday.

Good luck

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MrsB on May 08, 2008, 02:25:51 AM
Congrats on the walking BSG!! Are you finding that your graft site feels tight or weird when you walk or flex?
Good luck on getting to 120, I know you can do it!! :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: ski_bunny on May 08, 2008, 11:24:39 AM
yes, I've had the "introduction" ... and like the approach. :)
I'm scheduled next weekend. Means another week of ... pre-op nerves for me!

Your scar tissue post reminded me of some advice I got recently from an acquaintance - a chiropractor & knee specialist: He told me to invest in a laser pointer (635 intensity ... whatever that means) and point it in a circular fashion over the scar tissue. He said to do it several times a day for at least 10 - 15 seconds each time and said that it tremendously helps scar tissue to heal.
Anybody heard about that??

What do you reckon ... worth a try?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 08, 2008, 04:14:22 PM
BSG - I do those SLR type things with the pulley as well.  They do feel odd!  I haven't done the SLR's while balancing on the right knee yet (surgery knee).  I also got the lecture that if you call it "bad" then you will think it's bad and you will have a mental block.  I guess I really can't say good knee/bad knee anymore.  They are both kind of pains in my @**!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 08, 2008, 11:45:44 PM
Hey Ski Bunny - I'll ask about the laser pointer.  I had arthroscopic surg on my elbow a few years ago and the 2 little insertion points developed knots of scar tissue.  I remember I used to massage them pretty much whenever I thought of it and I'd think they were never going to go away.  Well, it's been 3.5 years now and I can't even find the scars let alone the knots, they are all gone.

BNL - talk about the mental block, I find that now that my knee is stable it's more in my brain that I have the trouble believing I can do it.  Just this afternoon I got up and walked into the LR with my coffee and the paper and sat down, after awhile I needed a refill and I was like "where's my sticks, OMG I can't get into the kitchen w/o them."  Silly I know but it's funny how conditioned one can become if you aren't careful.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 09, 2008, 11:38:51 AM
Hi BSG, glad to hear you're starting to ditch the "sticks".  Sounds like you're doing well.

Skibunny, That laser pointer sounds like a new kind of torture we can add to the list.  Does it feel like it's burning when you do it or is it such a low intensity you don't really feel it?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: TtheArab on May 09, 2008, 06:05:09 PM
Well done BSG. Loads of progress and lots of new things to try.

Laser pointer sounds like a toy from James Bond movie where he says "Do you expect me to beg for mercy?" and the baddie says "No Mr Bond, I expect you to die"....and thats without any meds on my behalf.

Have a great weekend BSG.  ;D

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: kr8ivemind on May 09, 2008, 06:12:21 PM
Hi All -

I had my AClr done 10  years ago. A friend of mine is a ciropractor and he did my rehab for me. He told me to use the laser pointer and use Gota Kula (herbal supplement). I took the capsules of Gota Kula and broke them open to create a paste. Applied the paste on the scar. My scars healed up really good.

- Mimi
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 09, 2008, 08:13:51 PM
Oh, T I LOVE James Bond especially that particular quote - Sean Connery and Roger Moore tho' not the newer ones.  (I am dating myself)  I quoted the Matrix quote from Bruce to the PT the other day and they cracked up.  She came in and was quoting me lines so I guess we are onto something.

Well, today is end of week 4 PT session #12

I am happy to report that the last of the April ACLrs are OFF CRUTCHES!!!!!!!!   :D  It still feels a little funny but it is good to be free of them I must say. on the bike I got all the way around the first try!!!!  I forgot to ask about the laser thing but I can't see how it would hurt anything.

So today was a tag team event at the PT, my regular PT and the Director took turns, Fridays are slow there.  I really like my regular PT but sometimes I like to see someone different and have their take on things.

I did the regular exercises and the PT did some knee CPR, we determined that I do get to 0 passively but of course the point is for me to get it using my own muscles not theirs.  We did some hell slides and flexion work as well.

Since today was the big walking day they took alot of time making sure I was actually walking and not faking something that was propeling me forward.  They gave me 2 new exercieses to do:

One is stand with left leg forward and lean like you are going to take a step without actually stepping forward - this is to get a sense of the weight shift

Two, was to assume the above position with the right leg forward and lift my left leg up like I was going to take a step - really exagerate it to get the feel of the walking motion and not just letting my leg swing forward.

Then I motored around the clinic while they watched - funny how self-conscious I get when I know someone is watching me walk.

The grand finale involved the electro stim with ice pack to try and get the swelling down.  Only medical people would think to electric shock something to get it to shrink.......

I managed to dodge the measuring thingie  ;) today - another victory....

I hope everyone has a good weekend and for all you Moms out there Happy Mothers Day!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MrsB on May 09, 2008, 09:06:11 PM
That's awesome that you're off the crutches BSG and got to 0 (even passivily) ! I wonder if we had done CPR yesterday if I would've gotten 0? I mean if I was at 2 when I went in and gain about 3 degrees after CPR each time.... it would make sense? ???
Anway, your new exercises sound a lot like the ones I got yesterday. How are they going so far?? I have to do one where I stand on my op leg and bend non-op behind me and do 1/4 squats.... so difficult.

Glad you're doing so well. :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 09, 2008, 09:22:34 PM
Does this mean there is no extension party for anyone this weekend? :D  I know I've got a busy weekend and an extension party is not part of it   ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 09, 2008, 10:11:57 PM
The new exercises are really good but I still tend to be a bit peg legged when I walk.  I have to do a few standing hamstring curls to remind my knee that it is supposed to bend when I am walking.  I have not done any one-legged squats....yet.  I do the low-pulley machine with my good leg and have to balance on the bad one and that's tough since I do not have very good balance on it yet.

The PT hinted that we are going to get more aggressive next week, I think she is tired of me wimping around but she does point out that I am just about where I should be.  I guess they just have to push someone like me harder, I'm glad she's patient with me.

BNL - I think in place of the extension party we are coming to your event instead.   ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on May 09, 2008, 10:49:26 PM

The hamstring is what causes me most of my limp.  I can not lift my foot behind me more than a couple inches due to pain in hamstring.  Do you have any hamstring issues? I know you got your patellar tendon harvested, but is your hamstring weakened like our quads are?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 10, 2008, 05:37:21 PM
Hi Bruce:

It seems my hams are weak but not like my quads are.  I did alot of pre-op work on them both but it appears as if I was better at the hams than the quads.  My favorite one was sitting on the stool and motoring around the carpeted PT room using my left heel pulling me forward with everyone watching me.  It actually was my only cardio for awhile and was difficult as the PT only let me use the left leg, no right leg helping - a good hamstring workout for sure.

When I sit in the chair for the flex measurement it is very difficult for me to get my leg back by itself, I can get the leg back pretty far using the other leg to "help" but when I am just using the left leg the furthest I have gotten to is 115.  I don't think it's the hammies being weak I think it is the swelling in my knee that is holding things up.

The ham curls help, when I first do them the knee is stiff but after a few it loosens up, if I could get the swelling down I think I could really progress in the flex department.  I ice quite a bit, I think - several times a day - maybe I should be icing more.

To complicate the swelling issue I have some insufficiency in the saphenous vein in that same leg, the valves let bloodflow backup and really causes the ankle and leg to swell (and I'm sure it doesn't help the knee either), I wear one of those compression stockings most days to keep it from getting too swollen.  I was going to get it fixed (a rather simple thing I'm told) but the OS wants me to hold off for another 6 months until the knee is healed I guess.

The new exercises have helped tremendously and I don't seem to have any difficulty raising my leg to follow thru the walking motion.  For me it's the stiff knee and quads causing the swagger.

BTW - how is your pain level now?  I hope things are easing up for you.  I did have to pop a 1/2 percocet last night as I had some actual pain in the knee not just the regular achiness.  I attributed that to the 1st full day of FWB combined with the PT.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on May 10, 2008, 06:56:47 PM

Thanks for your response.  I envy your hamstring workouts.  I am not to do any hamstring exercises until 6 weeks after surgery.  You are far ahead in terms of getting your hamstring (and walking) back to normal.

I have the swelling issue as well.  My PT said to keep raising it yesterday so I have started using a stool instead of pillows.  It is not comfortable but it is much higher than 3-4 pillows that I had been using.  We will see if that helps.

When I woke up today my pain was only a 2 so I took IBUP instead of narcs.  So far so good, I think I am finally off of them and that is a huge relief for me.  However, I have not done any of my exercises since after my PT yesterday and won't do any this weekend as per PTs recommendation.

Have a great weekend.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 14, 2008, 06:25:06 PM
Hey BSG...Keep your head up!  If you want, I will participate in extension parties with you  :)  I will be thinking extension thoughts for your PT appointment today!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 14, 2008, 06:29:46 PM
Hey BSG,  Try not to be down about your progress.  Everyone is different.  You'll do fine.  Don't let PT beat you up about it either.  Remember, most of them haven't been through knee surgery so they have no idea how hard it is.   :P

And hey, if you're down just come on here and whine.  It feels better to let it out.  I've been whining for almost 6 months now and will probably continue to whine until my knee stops hurting and starts working the way it should.  

I know what your problem's those long, long legs because you are so tall.  More leg surface to heal up.  Ha! Ha!  Sorry.  Just trying to cheer you up.  Good luck at PT this afternoon.  Knock em' dead!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 14, 2008, 11:35:32 PM
Thanks Guys, your support really helps!!   :)

I guess the main problem is I am such a goal oriented person and when the PT tells me I should be at (insert ext/flex # here) when I am not I get frustrated, angry, depressed, fed up, and various other emotions.    >:(  :-[  :-\  :'(   I do realize that I am only going to get out of PT what I put into it and to be honest I am not pushing myself hard enough.  I have been afraid (there's the 'A" word again) that I would hurt the graft 'cause I sure don't want to do this again.  However, I know that the PT is not going to have me do anything that will hurt the graft - I know there are some questionable ones out there but I really trust all of the ones I am seeing.

So that being said let me tell you about today's session:

I really like my regular PT, we get along well and I think we were both feeling frustrated at my progress - or lack thereof. I warmed up on the bike and I can go all the way around w/o any issues so that feels good.  She told me I s/b biking at least 3 times a day to keep the knee flexible (I am still not working so rehab s/b my full time job).  I then spent some time chasing the PT around the room as they were trying to get me to walk faster, with these long legs I have been walking at a pace that a turtle could pass me on.

Then another one of the PTs came by for a little motivation, he worked on my gait and then.......we got on the table for the massage (or was it torture?) session.  Wow!!  they both massaged my scar and flexed and I got to see them do knee CPR in tandem.  It was kind of like a PT swarm even the Director looked over at one point.  Boy, was it uncomfortable, not really painful but man........I was ready to run (like I could even beat them walking) out.  At one point I thought they might tie me to the table.

We did manage to get to 0 with the one PT lying on my knee and the other measuring, on my own I got to -3 which is the best since pre-op.  Flex was 115 which they thought was good but I was like "aren't I supposed to be at 120" so I was kind of bummed about that.    >:(

So it was clear that today was a motivation session which in all honesty I needed.   :-\  I know they want to see me heal and it's frustrating for them to have someone who is not progressing well.  I have decided to put myself on a schedule, I have not been working and I just tend to hang around the house and not really do the rehab on a set schedule.  I think if I get on some type of schedule it will help me do the rehab better and more often so that's the plan for the rest of the week (and probably my life).  I see the PT again tomorrow, I can't come in on Fri so they wanted me to come in tomorrow - I was like.....ok, sure thing   ::) I was backing thru the door......    :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 15, 2008, 01:34:57 AM
BSG - The image of you "chasing" your PT around the office cracks me up.  Don't they ever let us win? ;)  Then the thought of 2 people doing CPR on my knee....ouch.  You are a trooper!

Your ext numbers are getting better, so that is progress!  Don't worry about flex.  Ext is the most important thing now.  Plus you can get all the way around on the bike now, so that is fantastic! :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 15, 2008, 08:56:31 PM
End of week 5:

Thanks BNL, wow, 5 weeks already, hard to believe it has gone by so fast!

Today was back to back PT sessions since I saw my regular PT yesterday for the ext/flex party.  It was kind of funny in that I think they thought I might not come back after yesterday.  I really like them all tho' and am happy that they care so much, I guess I could have one of the clueless ones I read about on these boards at times.

Today was "good cop" PT day, we got to have a gentle massage session and a quieter approach to yesterday but it was still tough.  We did some backward treadmill walking and some shuttle work, after that the dreaded measuring thingie (I like that better than gonimeter) came out and I got to 0 on my own today!!!!!!  YEA!!!!!  Flex was 120 with some help from the PT.

Monday they are telling my regular PT that I should be at 118 so she cut me some slack.  The other thing to come out of todays session is that I really think there are some issues with my fibula, it had what they termed as a non-dislocated fracture in the initial injury and they said it would just heal.  When I really try to push as hard as I can on the ext I get a pain (I told them it was pain not just some discomfort) right up where the fib comes into the knee.  The PT today felt around and did some massage, we discussed whether this will resolve on it's own, I do see the OS next week so I will mention it then.  I feel like that is really what is holding up the full ext at this point but I sometimes think that maybe they think I am not really trying.

So they sent me home with my ext/flex homework as well as the gait training moves they gave me, I have a feeling I'd better study for Mon or else......gulp!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 15, 2008, 10:58:43 PM
BSG - You got to 0 on your own!  Outstanding work!  :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 15, 2008, 11:28:42 PM
That's more like it BSG.  Now you're cruising!  That sounds great!  That pain on ext. could be anything.  Don't sweat it yet.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 19, 2008, 07:41:35 PM
Today is 5 weeks post-op:

First I warmed up on the bike - it is sooooooo good to just hop on and take off - burned a whopping 49 calories in 7 minutes.  Today I am rumaging thru the attic to find my old cage pedals for my bike (right now the clipless ones are on) and I think I am going to hop on the bike and explore the neighborhood.  My leg feels strong enough now so I don't think I would have any trouble.  If I fall I'll just make sure I don't fall that direction.

After the bike we got on the tradmill - backwards - where do these PTs come up with this stuff?  I told her I didn't think I walked well backwards with 2 good legs let alone one ACL repaired one.  She laughed while turning up the speed to a speedracing 1.5 mph.  The funny thing was I was walking well with the left leg but the right leg was not cooperating, it's always somethin'.

On to the leg press, single presses at 50lbs today - a big improvement over the wimpy 20lbs I had been doing. (3 sets of 12)

On to propriaception - she straps a 7.5lb weight on my good leg and says "here, stand on this foam thing with the left leg and do leg raises in 3 quadrants with the weighted right leg."  I was like dang, I practiced standing on my left leg all weekend and am pretty good at it at this point, then she throws the foam and weights at me, I guess like BNL said - they never let us win.  "Oh and when you're done do it with your eyes closed."

Then she says cheerily, "hop up" while pointing to the table.  GULP!!!!!  The dreaded massage (read: torture) session.  Actually today was not bad.  I still have the pain at the fibula insertion and since I see the OS Thurs hopefully that question will be resolved.  We did some gentle manipulating and then the moment for measuring came.   Ext # was better today, I don't think it was 0 but she was impressed so that must be good, she is a very hard measurer.  Flex today was 117 with her helping so it wasn't the 118 we were hoping for but at least it wasn't far off - that 1 degree could be measuring error so I'm not all that upset about it.

At this point I think the swelling is what's holding up the flexion, I am still working on all the exercises they gave me and I am really seeing some improvement.  Not as fast as I'd like of course but I'm better this week than I was last week so that's what counts.

TTFN - off to check up on everyone's diaries.   :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 19, 2008, 07:58:01 PM
It's all torture but sounds like you've got a great PT group BSG.  You'll be thankful for them when you're back to 100%.  I like the sounds of that foam and weights drill.  I'm always looking for new exercises to challenge myself.  I don't do nearly enough propriopception exercises and I should be.  Thanks.  And as far as your flexion...yes, definitely the swelling that's holding you up. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 22, 2008, 04:10:29 PM
I do like the group, I've been going since Feb now and they are all super!!!!!  Except for the part that they make me work......

Yesterday's PT was good.

Bike warm up and then the PT wanted me to try the stairs.  It seems my body has forgotten that it is supposed to use my leg to step up not my hip.  We spent some time trying to master the step up and down but I had a bit of pain and since I was seeing the Dr today she wanted to hold off.

Some propriaception drills again, the only funny thing was when I went to step off the trampoline it was not locked down so I came off pretty fast and landed on my left leg.  She's like "oh dear" and I'm like "oh $h!t, the graft!"  Seems like all is well with the graft after the Dr visit.

I have now been able to maintain full extension for one week!!!!!!!  We seem to be on to the flexion work now.

The OS visit was good, he was pleased with the progress at 5 weeks and took a couple of xrays for the fibula pain.  He said everything looked good and to continue with the PT protocol I am on.  I really like him as he is totally a results oriented kind of guy.  He says that as long as things are moving forward at a reasonable pace to not get wrapped up in the "you should be at 130 this week."  I was like, yeah - tell that to the PTs cause they are always on me for the numbers.

I do find that surgeons are generally not very chatty or have a great sense of humor.  However, I did make them both laugh when I told them the PT thought I was being too wimpy, I am 6'2", way past 150lbs but less than 190 and that makes me bigger than both of them and it's not often I am called a wimp.  ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on May 22, 2008, 04:19:10 PM

That is awesome! Congrats on extension job.  Don't worry about the step ups.  I find that everytime I start something new after surgery I am terrible at it.  But after just one or two sessions, my brain makes the necessary adjustments and it comes back really quickly.  It happened with step ups, step downs, and calf raises for me. 

Keep up the great work.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 22, 2008, 05:50:04 PM
Good work BSG! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 22, 2008, 08:06:00 PM
Thanks Guys!!  You are right, it seems the first few times are pretty bad and then I seem to get into a groove and become good at it.  I so want to begin going up the stairs normally even the slow regular way would be better than one step at a time.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: jon.eames on May 22, 2008, 08:29:16 PM
Sorry this might make more sense

I will defo have a beer for you, sorry to hear about the beer not being as good, my freind moved to chicago and says he cant find a good pint of gunniess anywhere.
Anyway this is the nearest i could get to getting a nice pint for you this weekend ;D


Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 22, 2008, 08:33:45 PM
Yum!!!!!!  ;D  Thanks Jon!!!   8)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 22, 2008, 10:06:56 PM
BSG, you'll be cranking out those step ups in no time!  Don't worry!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 22, 2008, 10:35:07 PM
Hey Lenore, I think after a few of those black and tans I won't care how I got up the stairs..... ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 22, 2008, 10:46:51 PM
Have a couple for me.  I had too much white wine last night.  Yum!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MrsB on May 23, 2008, 05:14:15 AM didn't you learn anything from my wine tasting fiasco?? ;D

The stairs are challenging me're not alone!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 23, 2008, 10:32:19 AM
Well Mrs. B, I was just feeling left out because you and BSG were off wine tasting while I was just sitting in a lounge chair watching BNL lug cases of beer and soda around all weekend.  That's just not right.  Had to indulge a little.  I'm a cheap date...too much wine for me is a couple of glasses.  I can't drink much.  Still was yummy though. 

I want to see BSG go up those stairs backwards like you all have been doing on the treadmill.  Now THAT would be a challenge.  I'm surprised your torturous PT hasn't come up with that one yet.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 23, 2008, 01:39:53 PM
LOL Lenore!!  Please, don't give them any ideas.  Last week when my PTs were having the motivation session they were teasing (I think) that they only give progress reports for patients that actually progress   ;D  and then they said they would use an alias.  Well, the OS was pleased with the progress and I wanted to screw with the PTs somehow.  I'll have to think of something to zing them with at today's session.  Anyone have any ideas?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 23, 2008, 11:24:44 PM
BSG - I was thinking the same thing as you.  I didn't want any PT's to be reading this board and getting any ideas.  Can you image walking backwards downstairs that are made out of a balance board type contraption?  That would be a sure trip to the ER.  Of course the busted head and arms would take our mind off knees.

Glad your OS is happy with your progress.  Did you find a way to mess with the PT's today?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 23, 2008, 11:59:01 PM
LOL BNL, you are so right.  Today when I got to PT she was like "well, how'd it go."  So I looked at her and said the OS didn't want me to see this PT group anymore since I wasn't making enough progress.  She looked at me funny for a minute and then was like "yeah, right - hop up on the table."   :o

Todays session was pretty tame, bike, some massage and manipulation, ext/flex measurement (I really hate that measuring thingie), leg press.  We added step ups today, I think since my appt with the OS yesterday I feel alot more confident in the knee and the graft.  I also found that if I step up rather fast (not real fast but normal I guess) I can do it pretty well.  The PT was actually happy with the technique today so that was a victory.

I also motored around the clinic today with barely a limp and she actually smiled.... ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 24, 2008, 11:46:57 AM
Sounds like you're ready for the next challenge BSG.  If you're doing step ups you're ready for this one.  Try sitting in a straight back chair and rise up with just your op leg.  Don't swing your arms or use your upper body to throw you forward.  Use only your leg to gradually stand up.  It's a great leg strengthener.  (Is strengthener a word?)  I couldn't do this one for a while after surgery and then one day I was able to do it easily.  It's harder than it sounds.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 25, 2008, 07:22:37 PM
Woo hoo!  Today I got out my bike and rode up and down the street for awhile.  I felt just like I did when I was a little kid and Dad had me ride w/o training wheels.   ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: jon.eames on May 25, 2008, 07:31:59 PM
Nice one BSG, cant wait to do it myself the annoying thing is i got a  new bike for my birthday week b4 pre op and never got to ride it :(
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 26, 2008, 08:03:46 PM
Wow, Lenore, I don't think I could do that at all.  My leg feels so weak sometimes just stepping up the stairs is a feat now.  I am really trying to get there tho'.  I don't see my regular PT for a couple of weeks so I want to make some progress and surprise her when she returns.  Listen to me - I sound like some little kid trying to impress the teacher.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 26, 2008, 10:34:29 PM
Riding your bike is great too.  You'll be able to do the other exercise in no time.  Trying to impress your PT just means they are good.  That means they are encouraging you and giving you positive feedback so you want to please them.  That's great! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 27, 2008, 11:36:30 PM
Well, today I got into the pool!!!!  I spent about an hour walking up and down the lanes frontwards, backwards, and sideways.  I have one of those belts that support you while you run in the water - funny thing tho', the pool was only 5 feet deep so I kept hitting the bottom.   :D  I switched to the outside pool and I think the water temp was about 60 degrees so I got some icing as well.    :o    That pool was 8 ft deep but since it was so cold I only got into my waist and walked some more.  I did all my PT exercises and the best thing was the steps, I spent about 15 minutes just stepping up and down - I got to the point where I could do it without hanging onto/using the rail.  I know I am lighter in the water but it felt good to finally be able to step up for a change.  I see the PT tomorrow so she should be - no she'd better be - happy with today.

Oh yeah, did I mention the 5 young male lifeguards?   ::)  I was the only one insane enough to get in the cold water so I had them all watching me.  Too bad I'm not 20 again!!!   8)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 28, 2008, 02:08:20 AM
Sure.  There you are freezing your T**S off in the pool just to impress 5 young studs.  Shame on you!  LOL  Maybe next time you should fake drowning and see how many rush to your side to save you. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 28, 2008, 04:46:01 PM
BSG - You are a trooper!  :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on May 28, 2008, 06:16:17 PM
BSG!  I am jealous of your pool activities!  I got into a pool on Sunday and could only stand there.  Walking hurt...of course the water was about 4 ft it just wasn't high enough to lift me up.  I used to do the underwater treadmill at PT.  I would do it until it hurt.  In the pool on Sunday, I was about the same depth, but couldn't take any steps.  So I am jealous!!  I am also happy for you though!!  Congrats! 

How was PT today?

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 28, 2008, 09:31:01 PM
I think I know what it would be like to have a wife.....these PTs are never satisfied.

I told them about the bike this weekend, all she said was she thought it was too dangerous for me to ride right now, the graft is weak, what if I fell, blah, blah, blah........     ::)  OK, whatever!!  Then when I told her about the pool it was like ok whatever.    >:(  Geez, it would be nice for them to say something positive for a change.  My MIL said it was encouragement like when you bring home your report card with all A's and your father says "how come you didn't get A+'s?"

OK, the rest of the visit was talking about the scar and then the dreaded step.  I am declaring myself officially dysfunctional when it comes to steps.  My leg refuses to work right and I feel like chucking the whole thing.  For some reason (my mind maybe?) I don't bend my knee when I step down so I land kind of hard on my toes/ball of foot.  We only did it for about 5 minutes and I did feel like I was getting the hang of it so I guess my homework is sissy squats and steps today and Friday.

I'm kind of mad right now, I know I will feel better later but I just feel like I am not getting anywhere with these steps.  I am 6 weeks post-op this week and everyone else seems so much further along.  :(
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: jon.eames on May 28, 2008, 09:52:58 PM

you had a bad day at the PT, i am dreading it when i start, everyone seems like they try so hard and the PT always want more.
Have all PT got heart of lead, i think we need PT who have had the same injuries as we have ;D

Dont worry im sure everything coming together but sometimes it would be nice to get a bit of praise :D

Head Up and im sure everything will be alright ( practice practice practice )
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 28, 2008, 10:04:04 PM
Sorry you had a bad PT visit BSG!  You will show them!  I have faith in you :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 28, 2008, 10:39:42 PM
I think they're just pushing you because they know you're up for the challenge.  Sorry it was a crappy PT visit.  That's so awful.  You don't want to be there in the first place and then when they are so negative it makes you want to give up.  Next one will be better. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on May 28, 2008, 11:32:09 PM

Sorry to hear about your PT.  Sometimes they are asked to refrain from making comments for things like that in the US because they don't want the liability should there be a law suite.  And sometimes  they are just jerks ;).

Listen one thing that really helped me with steps was this exercise that my PT gave me, you may want to ask yours if it is OK for you to try:

Stand on a very low step, I use a three inch high for this.  Stand on it with your operated knee and in a way that your good leg is dangling off of the step.  Bend your knee until the heel of the good leg touches the ground, then straighten your knee again.  Your good leg has no weight on it at any time.  It only touches the ground very lightly.  This stresses your quad strength and control on the range of motion that is very critical for steps, especially going down.  However, it is not too hard because you are only bending it a little bit.  If it is too hard, you can even get a shorter step.

Have a good night
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 29, 2008, 01:15:07 PM
OK, I am over my little tantrum.....for now.

Thanks everyone for the words of encouragement, I know this is a marathon but it gets so frustrating at times.  Sometimes I just want to curl up on the couch with a pillow under my knee. (just kidding I really want to get better to kick the PTs in the you know where)  At the session yesterday after she measured I was like....well?? and she said oh, good.  You had +2 hyperextension last week.  I was like "what, after all the drama getting to full extension you don't even mention hyperextension?"

So I borrowed a step from my old pers trainer.  It has 3 levels and the lowest is pretty low, I think I can do what you suggested Bruce.  That is along the lines of what the PT had me doing yesterday.  I stepped up and down forwards and then turned sideways and tried to bend my knee slightly like you described.

I have been doing lots of sissy squats (3x12 three to four x daily) and SLRs with weights (100 AM and PM).  I'm pretty sure it is a quad strength issue.

I am going to the pool today and will get a workout dodging the icebergs.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 29, 2008, 01:29:54 PM
Glad to hear you're feeling better today BSG.  Sometimes those tantrums work to motivate you even more.   No showing off for those young studs at the pool now.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: TtheArab on May 29, 2008, 03:30:28 PM

What a star and great doubling up of time to not only exercise but to have 5 young lifeguards fussing over you.... very good. Pity the team at my pool are not quite as attractive as this lot sound. If any of the girl lifeguards jumped in to save me I may well consider drowning being the better proposition. ;D

Keep your chin up, you wil lmake progress and the step idea is a beauty which I am sure will pay off.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on May 29, 2008, 04:33:27 PM
Good luck in the pool BSG.  Don't let an iceburg get you!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on May 29, 2008, 05:27:07 PM
Hey BSG, sorry your PT session was not so good, but glad you have gotten over it and are now motivated for more!  I start PT on Friday and not looking forward to it.  My PT is not so negative, but I can see frustration in her face when she works with me sometimes.  I like her, but sometimes she gets on my nerves.  Last time I saw her 6 weeks ago, she wasn't happy with me at all b/c of my pain levels.  She told me I am not suppose to go when my knee hurts...well then I guess I am never suppose to go!!  UGh!!  Anyway, keep practicing those steps.  If it makes you feel any better, I am 5 months PO and I can't even do a 3" step!  Good luck!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 30, 2008, 06:42:54 PM
Day 46:

Well, if nothing else this injury/recovery seems to have brought out my latent manic/depressive tendencies.... ;D  After last PT session I was ready to chuck the whole thing, if it wasn't for you guys here on the boards I don't know what I'd do.

Today I went in and was apprehensive, I did a lot of mini squats, SLRs, step-ups, and the 200 other things they want me to do 3 times a day Wed and Thurs so I was hoping that would make a difference...

PT: let's measure you
PT:  "measuring"
Me:  WELL!!!!!
PT:  Oh, you're 1 degree hyper and 125 flex
Me:  "thinking"  >:(  jeez that's best yet why don't you just say so

Then......the step.....the first few were pretty lame but then I got into a rythem(sp?) and just went up and down pretty well.  A little too much toes on the landing still but I could tell the PT was happier than on Wed BC she said "ok, let's go to the stairwell."  I was like "hmmmm, here's my chance to off them both......" (just kidding)  I went up and down the stairs pretty well and they were both pretty happy.

Then....(of course you can never win there) she said "time for lateral steps"  -  I don't remember her saying that was on the quiz!!!  They were pretty lame but better then Wed so she just said to work on it.

I did the leg press, shuttle, and the elliptical/step combo thing they have there and actually worked up a bit of a sweat.  First cardio since the accident - boy am I out of shape.

So today is a manic kind of day, I'm happy with the steps and the measurements and will continue to work on things this weekend.

Thanks again everyone, I hope you all have a good weekend.

Farrah:  I hope your PT session went well, have fun at the lake house and keep on trying, you will get there!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on May 30, 2008, 09:04:46 PM
Great measurements BSG.  See?  You showed them!  Offing them in the stairwell?  Hmmm, I like that idea.  Ha! Ha! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MrsB on May 30, 2008, 10:31:09 PM
Those are awesome measurements!  I am glad you tackled those steps. Going down is still getting me but I am getting a little better at tepping down right every day.
Sorry I haven't been commenting lately  but I have been reading and cheering you on in my head!  ;)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 02, 2008, 06:02:38 PM
Hey BSG, You're commenting and giving great advice to everyone else but what's going on in your world?  Everything OK or are you having a manic Monday?  I still can't believe you are doing 200 SLR's a day.  That's amazing.  And you keep calling yourself a wimp?  Yeah right!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 02, 2008, 10:42:20 PM
Yeah, I always was good at talking a big story - I should listen to my own advice sometimes.  Everyone here always helps me so much when I am down or mad.

LOL it is a manic monday!!  The SLRs take me about 10-15 minutes to do so I do them when I first wake up and when I am lying in bed at night watching TV.  Sometimes I just do quad sets instead until fatigue.  I really dislike (read - hate) them but I am always glad after I am finished.  I really don't think I have much of a quad strength issue but they can't hurt.

Day 49 - 7 weeks post-op:

I woke up late today - I don't know what I am going to do when I go back to work.  This AM I did my SLR's w/o weight then got up and did my sissy squats, stair step ups/downs/sideways, and biked for 25 minutes.  Felt pretty good I must say.

At PT today I saw a different PT - a guy and he is the Director.  I like my regular PT alot but it is nice to see someone different from time to time.  I find the guys are more gentle than the girls...hmmmmmm.... ::)

Anyway, we started on the stepper/elliptical combo they have there.  He says "6 minutes" and I'm thinking "no sweat I could do that in my sleep"......well, after about 2 minutes I was like "uh oh this is tougher than it looks"  I was really working up a sweat - file that under extremely out of shape.  I used to run for a hour every day and now I can't do 5 minutes......oh well, another goal to work towards.

Then we went to the table and we did some active resistance stuff ext/flex same ol' same ol' I escaped the measurer today so that was good.

Then he wants to see my steps.....gulp!!!  I am such a fraidy cat and the other PTs were there so the pressure was on.  Fortunately I really worked on this the last few days so after a few I was doing well and felt pretty good, then he says "ok, go backwards" what IS IT with these PTs and doing everything backwards!!?  Next session will probably be the balance board stairs backwards with my eyes shut.

Then he showed me a new squat to do that will help the quad and knee bend that I need.  Stand in front of a chair and put my left (injured) leg back slightly then I squatted (is that a verb?) until my butt just touched the pillows on the chair and then stand back up.  I had to put a few pillows BC I am so tall so I don't have to go down so far right now.  I can lose the pillows as I get better.

After that some resistance band leg extensions, leg press, bike, and then the lovely ice.

I think it was a pretty good visit.  He had a different approach as in he was saying that I was doing well for only 6 weeks out.....I was like geez I feel so unworthy with the other PTs so my ego got some TLC today as well.    :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on June 03, 2008, 12:11:20 AM
BSG, sounds like you are on the right track!  See if you can switch to that PT!!!  :)  I want to switch my PT too!  I wish I could do step ups!!!!  I wish I didn't have to try them right now though!  I am glad you got some better treatment with the "sub" PT!  That's great!  You deserve to be praised for once!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on June 03, 2008, 12:28:50 AM
BSG...I think the next thing with your PT "will probably be the balance board stairs backwards with my eyes shut" WHILE JUGGLING flames.  Good luck with that!  Let us know how it turns out  ;D

Ok, in all seriousness...good job.  I feel you on the out of shape!  I'm still paying for my PT session this morning, and think I will be for a couple of days.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 03, 2008, 12:40:32 AM
Good one BNL.  You guys crack me up.  Now that's one PT exercise I haven't done.  Hmmm...maybe at tomorrows session I'll ask him about it.  Sounds like fun.

BSG, that's great you're getting positive feedback at PT for a change.  It sounds like you are working really hard and it's paying off.  Did you ask this new guy about biking and the pool?  Maybe he'll be more positive about it than the others.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 04, 2008, 09:18:07 PM
Day 51:

PT today was rather tame, pretty much same as Monday but he added the leg press one-legged 30lbs for 3 minutes.  That was tough but felt good. I am still working on the step,   :P  coming off the front is still scary for me so that's my homework.  I have a bit of pain in the fibula insertion area but not like bad pain, more like the type that one can work through without incident.

Lucky for me the PT did not read BNL and Lenore's posts and I only have to practice the squats so I can come off the step without too much drama.

Hmmmm, I see the other PT Friday and my regular one on Monday so I hope they do not have anything more scary than the step for me.   ???
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on June 05, 2008, 12:19:00 AM
Hello BSG, sounds like you had a successful PT session!  Are some things getting easier for you?  I am glad that the pain from PT is something you can work through.  I can't believe you can do one legged leg press!  That's fantastic!  I hope you have a good night.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 05, 2008, 03:20:15 PM
Hi Farrah, I have been following your thread and will post over there later but I am so happy you are moving forward.  Keep your spirits up, I know it's hard but just think that someday this will all be a memory.

The stairs are getting easier, for me it's all in the irrational part of my head.  I know the graft is strong, I know the quads will hold me if I bend for the step, I know that I can do it but somewhere inside my brain says "STOP!!!!" and I don't do it.  A new experience for me to say the least 'cause I never was afraid like this before.  I can only chalk it up to being older (mid-40s) and thinking about how hard it is to rehab.

The PTs have been alternately patient and frustrated with me so I am working hard on stepping down so I can go in there tomorrow and if nothing else get them off my back about it.

Thinking good thoughts for you!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 06, 2008, 06:09:47 PM
Day 53:

Another PT torture session today, I had an early appt and our power was off so I just got up, showered, and left the house in search of some caffeine.

Warmed up on the cross-trainer (step-elliptical combo thing) and it is getting easier.  I have been doing more time and resistance on the bike so that is helping on the cardio side - go figure!!

Then the table, some stretching and measuring, the PT student measured at -4, I was like, no way!!!! after all this I'm not going to accept that (funny how things have changed, I remember when I was happy with -4).  We did some stretching and then I was at 0.  Flex was at 120 by myself and then we got to 129 so I feel like I am almost there, I think my flex on my good leg is around 135.

After that she says "get on your tummy" GULP!!!!  I thought of you BNL as I was certain the heel to butt routine was coming.  Well, she did stretch it but not anything heavy duty, it actually felt good and I was quite surprised that there wasn't more discomfort.

Did some steps and leg press and it went well.  I am seeing my regular PT Monday so I hope to be doing the lateral step down better than today.

The only thing that disturbs me is this issue with my fibula.  It seems to not like being in position and slips out, quite often.  When we were doing the resistance exercises there was a loud pop and the PT was like "did that hurt?"    :o   It didn't so that was good.  They spent some time putting it back in place and then it came right back out again as soon as I did the steps.  It doesn't hinder my walking or anything but I can feel the restriction on that side of the knee in full extension.  OS looked at it 2 weeks ago and thought all was well.

Oh yeah T, almost forgot - yesterday I went to the pool again and alas, the male lifeguards were nowhere to be found so I actually got in some rehab, however, the lifeguard was a Brazilian beauty and I think you would have spent your rehab time pretending to drown.   8)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 06, 2008, 07:28:58 PM
BSG, Good to hear most of your PT exercises are getting easier and also glad to hear you've been indoctrinated into the "on your tummy" club. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on June 06, 2008, 11:01:02 PM
Welcome to the club BSG!  I think I had that same loud crack at PT today...weird!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 09, 2008, 08:46:04 PM
Day 56 - 8 weeks post-op:

Well, I spent the weekend trying to step down off a step without all the associated drama, I didn't do too well.

PT today was pretty tame actually.  I was back to my regular PT who is usually pretty hard on me but today she was rather human.  Bike warm-up, Bosu ball balancing act, step ups, squats, ham curls, and leg press.  Finished up on the stepper/elliptical thing and some manual exercises with her.

We talked about why I am so dysfunctional on the stairs and she just said to practice my squats.  I told her I really never feel anything as far as soreness in my left quad after my exercises.  She looked a little surprised and said everything we do should cause some soreness.  I wonder why I don't feel anything in my left leg.  At times my right leg gets tired, maybe that means I am still compensating too much.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Lolalee on June 09, 2008, 09:02:46 PM
That sounds strange. I wonder if it is because you are doing your quad exercises to a lower level that your quad can bear. Are you increasing number of repetitions or time you hold when you are doing the exercises? I actually do not feel much pain on my quads either but can tell from how hard it gets that I am working out -particularly when I am doing my straight leg raises, but not much with the squats.
I would think that compensating up to certain point is natural, I tend to put the weight on my good leg unconsciously and balance it when I realise that I am compensating.
That might also mean that you have a strong quad! ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 09, 2008, 09:04:09 PM
What?  No tummy torture exercises today?  Glad you had an easy visit.  I'm still having a hard time with the step downs and my quads are pretty strong.  I think it's the knee joint itself that's weak for me.

Are you still having instances of the fibula slipping out?  What did PT say about it?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 09, 2008, 09:23:02 PM
Yeah I think you may be right Lolalee, I did leg presses at 45lbs single leg today I did feel it in my leg and while it was not easy it certainly was not difficult.  I did 3 sets of 10 and felt a little fatigue.  I used to work out with a personal trainer and on leg day I literally could barely walk out of the gym.  I know I don't need to work the quad to failure right now but I am going to tell them to put more weight on the machines.

Funny, I do feel it the most when I am doing the SLRs.  Tells me something huh?  I guess I should do more of them, maybe throughout the day.  Right now I just do them in the AM and PM.  I wonder if I did things based more on time such as 3 one minute sets rather than 3 sets of 10.  At this point I don't think it would be bad to do more, I feel pretty good and I am certain that it's the quad strength that is holding me back on the steps.

No tummy torture today Lenore.  I was actually ready for that but she threw me a curve by being tame today, probably setting me up for Wed.  I feel the fibula issue at times, on Sat I got up and - are you sitting down - I forgot completely about my knee and walked to the bathroom and then down the first stair step.  That's when I felt the little shift in the fibula and for the rest of the day it was uncomfortable - not pain or anything just an oddness in the knee.  I didn't mention it to her today but I will on Wed.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 10, 2008, 08:32:54 AM
"Forgot completely about the knee"?  Oh yeah, now you're talking.  That's great. 

More SLR's?  Are you kidding?  You're already doing a record 200 a day aren't you?  You're putting my "do nothing" routine to shame. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 10, 2008, 01:29:11 PM
I do the SLRs AM and PM, last night I decided to do them for one minute and rest one minute for 15 minutes while I was watching TV.  Funny thing was I did the 100 in that time.  I do them in sets of 15/20 depending on how my leg feels.  I have to say that my leg was tired last night and I could barely crank out the last 10.  Then I did a few on my sides.

My legs are not tired today tho'.  I am going to the pool and will talk to her about the quads tomorrow.  Like I said I know that's what's holding me up right now and I want to push them harder.  However I know that I need to be careful, the PTs and OS has been all over me about the graft weakness right now and I'm like OK ALREADY!!  Still no outside biking, I guess it's good - I sure don't want to do this again and if it takes me a little longer that's ok.........ok but frustrating.

I forgot to mention something funny aT PT YESTERDAY, AFTER I WARMED UP....oops, CAPSLOCK.... we went over to the Bosu ball and she said "stand on your left leg" as I was getting on she had a ball in her hands and I was eyeing her and she laughed, I said "oh, up on the Bosu, left leg, eyes shut, catch ball"....and she says "while singing!"   LOL I thought you and BNL must have called her.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 10, 2008, 01:41:00 PM
LOL. Good one!   ;D    Why no outside bike yet?  I don't get it?  Sounds like you're ready.  Funny thing is much as I'd rather be outside...the exercise bike feels way better on my knee than the road bike does.  Must be a different angle or something.  Hope you get out there soon anyway.  Just doing something different is fun. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 10, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
They are concerned that if I fell to my left I would perhaps do something to the graft, I guess that's reasonable and I really don't want to have come this far and then do something to hurt the graft.  Besides as I write this it's already 96 degrees outside at 1030 so the inside bike is air-conditioned.  The pool opens at noon so I am going to get there before the storms come this afternoon.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on June 10, 2008, 04:07:36 PM
Wow that is funny!! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 11, 2008, 09:21:52 PM
Day 58:

Went to the pool yesterday, I find it is the only thing that really wears me out.  My legs were tired this AM but once I was up and around the knee was good.

PT today was tame again, hmmmmm, PT must be setting me up for Friday.  Today was some manual stretching and strength exercises, it is good to do that rather than the same ol' same ol' boring routine.  Nothing like a healing touch I guess.  One fun thing we did was I stood on my left leg and held onto the ends of a resistance band, PT took the other side and tried to throw me off balance.  I did quite well and I think she was really happy with how my balance is coming along.

I did some "running" on the mini-trampoline.  That was also kind of fun but tiring, I think when I actually have to run it will wipe me out.

Ok, off to work on my squats and side step downs.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on June 11, 2008, 09:52:50 PM
2 tame PT sessions in a row?  I guess they are setting you up for the flame throwing while "running" on the trampoline routine.  Can you take pictures...that is something I want to see!   ;)

On a serious note...good job!  Keep it up.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 12, 2008, 12:22:11 PM
Those tame sessions are just to mellow you out and trust them so they can throw you to the wolves in the next one.  Beware of the bunny hop!  Ha! Ha!

Glad to hear things are going well BSG. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 12, 2008, 01:18:22 PM
Actually I forgot to post that while I was on the trampoline she asked if I still had the brace and to bring it in Friday......?   ???  What's up with that?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 12, 2008, 01:42:29 PM
See?  I told you.  They're getting you geared up for the next torture session.  Brace required!  Just kidding.  She probably just wants to make sure while you're jumping on the trampoline you have added support in case you fall off or hit the edge. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on June 12, 2008, 05:37:41 PM
BSG - What kind of a brace do you have?  Are you excited for tomorrow's session?  ;)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 12, 2008, 08:35:32 PM
It's one of those big black clunky things with the ROM thingie that goes at knee level.  It can be locked at whatever inconvenient/uncomfortable position the PT wants.

She better be nice to me, I went to the pool again today.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: ski_bunny on June 13, 2008, 02:03:22 AM
Hope your PT spares you further torture sessions :)
Great to hear that things are going well.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 13, 2008, 08:58:32 PM
Day 60:

Found out what the brace was for.....bunny hops!!

Did some warm up on the cross trainer and she said "put your brace on"   :o  We then did a few bunny hops, I thought of Lenore as the PT was showing me what she wanted me to do.  I did a few, the first one was not pretty - well, it pretty much sucked - and a bit of pain.  I did a few more and it seemed to go well except I tended to land on my right leg instead of both balls, of feet that is.  Something new to work on.

I did a few front and back and then in a box pattern.  Finished up with some trampoline running.  I managed to work up a good sweat there today.

A quick session on the table with her providing resistance while extended/flexed my leg, there was a catching sensation and she was like "what is that noise?"  We discussed the fibula issue and since I see the OS next week she told me to mention it and show him how it happens.

All in all it was a good session - 3 in a row....woohoo!!!!

The stairs are getting easier and easier and I even went side to side today without too much drama.  I think something finally clicked and I feel confident in the knee and the graft strength so hopefully I have hit a milestone (in my mind anyway) and will progress much quicker now.

Going on a mini-vacation this weekend - it's our 18th anniversary Monday.  Boy, that makes me feel old!!!

I hope everyone has a good weekend!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: ski_bunny on June 14, 2008, 07:51:07 AM
Congrats on your milestone and your anniversary.
Good stuff all round!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 14, 2008, 11:46:16 AM
Congrats on everything BSG.  Successful bunny hops (I'm so jealous!!!), easier stairs, strong graft, and 18th anniversary.  Sounds like you are going to have a great weekend celebrating.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on June 14, 2008, 02:18:50 PM
BSG, great job on the bunny hops!  Congrats on your anniversary!  18 years is huge!!!!  Have fun with those bunny hops!!  ;D

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Lolalee on June 15, 2008, 07:28:36 PM
Well done!! Your progress sounds just amazing!! Look forward to hearing about your kangaroo hops! ;D

Congrats on your anniversary!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 16, 2008, 04:41:55 PM
Now wait just a minute...just because BSG is 6'2" doesn't mean she can go from bunny hops to kangaroo hops in just one visit.  Just kidding.  I knew what you meant Lola.  Kangaroo hops might be more fun though...let's see what kind of torture would they add to that one?....I know, they could strap a pocket full of weights on your belly to simulate a kangaroo pouch and make you hop like that.  Ouch!

Hope your weekend celebration was a good one BSG. 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 17, 2008, 09:44:55 PM
Kanga...what.... ??? :o the bunny hops were enough and we did not do any Monday.  PT no like that I have some pain so she wants me to see the OS first.  I see him tomorrow (Wed) so I will have something to post after that.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on June 18, 2008, 12:48:46 AM
BSG, that's nice that your PT allows you to skip things with pain!  Today, I had to walk backwards in the water treadmill today and was so bad from beginning to end!  The assistant PT came and asked how I was doing and I told her...then she stopped me.  Then my actual PT came over to see how it went and we told him it was so painful.  He was disappointed that we stopped.  He said, " I know it's painful, but we have to get through it."  :(  Oh well.  After PT I am miserable for a week lately!  I don't know if it is all from PT, but I don't do anything else that could cause an increase in pain like this.  Anyway...sorry for my sob story on your diary! 

I hope your apt goes well tomorrow!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on June 18, 2008, 11:18:28 PM
BSG - How was your appointment?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 19, 2008, 06:54:21 PM
Day 65:
June 18th

Had 2nd OS appt this AM and PT this afternoon so it was an unusually busy day for me.

The OS appt went really well, I really like him and am sorry that he is relocating from the area, I kinda figure at the rate I'm going I am going to need a good OS in the future.  He is the rare surgeon that actually has a human side.  He looked at the scar and did the strength test, he measured flex at 128 and said how good that was without being warmed up (I was like geez, my PT doesn't ever like the flex measure).  Then he must have bended (is that a word?) my leg 2 dozen times watching the knee and just really thought everything was good.  I told him about the fibula issue and he looked at the x-ray and said mechanically everything looks good.  He thinks it's the IT band being tight and that actually mimicked the PT's assessment on Monday.  So he just said to keep up the current course of progress.  He was absolutely adament about no running until 12 weeks and no golfing (I guess Tiger Woods has messed it up for all of us).  He keeps saying I need to remember that I didn't have just the ACL and that is going to cause some delays in recovery.  He said as long as there are more and more good days then that is what he wants to see.

Had PT a couple of hours later and she was happy about everything the OS said.  We did some trampoline running and squats and she made me go up and over the stairs frontwards guessed it....backwards.  Some leg presses and treadmill walking - backwards - and then she said she wanted to show me something that will help the IT band.  The foam roller!!

Well, this is a new torture device.  I got on the floor - which was a feat in itself - and got up on the roller on my left side and rolled back and forth from my hip to my knee.  It is supposed to massage the muscles.  Well, in addition to the torture aspect it is a great upper body workout BC you have to support yourself and the more you can the less the pain, er massage on the leg.  She didn't want me to overdo it - yeah, right - so only for a moment or two, then I had to get up off the floor.  That was pretty I'm sure, I'm glad I don't ever see these people outside the PT Palace.

So it was another good day, I do seem to be having more of them lately.  I really feel like I am making great progress and I hope to get back to normal - whatever that was - sooner than later.  I am still shooting for Thanksgiving which would be 9 months total from the date of the accident.

Off to the pool.... 8)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on June 19, 2008, 07:49:52 PM
Glad you had a good day BSG!  Keep up the good work.

My PT said I should re-introduce myself to the foam roller...however I was never introduced so I figured I couldn't re-introduce myself if we had never met in the first place. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 19, 2008, 10:05:53 PM
BSG, glad to hear you're still making progress and feeling so optimistic.  Sounds like both OS and PT visits were a success.  I'm feeling left out.  I haven't had the pleasure of the foam roller either.  What?  I actually missed a torture exercise?  That can't be right. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 20, 2008, 01:34:24 AM
Yeah, it's kind of one of those hurts so good things.  I know it's good and helpful and all that but so are peas and I don't like them either.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on June 20, 2008, 01:51:32 AM
BSG, I am so happy for you that your good days are getting more and more frequent...that is great!!  Definitely listen to your OS about no running (golfing) :)  Do you actually play golf?  Or did he just say this b/c of Tiger Woods?  Anyway, I hope things continue to improve for you.  Here is a nice picture of the foam roller being used in case anyone wants to know....Good luck BSG!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 20, 2008, 03:26:54 PM
Hi Farrah, yes I've been a golfer since I was about 5yo so that's quite a while now.  I do enjoy playing but have resigned myself to practicing my short game for the next few months.  I thought either Tiger was superhuman (he is) or there was something else wrong with the knee, now we know. I think us knee geeks knew all along.

The picture is exactly what the PT wants me to do, thanks.  I hope all is going better for you, I was reading your diary earlier and I wish there was something I could do to help with your pain.  ((((((hugs)))))
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on June 20, 2008, 07:34:01 PM
BSG, that's great that you can at least play a little golf!  It's always difficult to take a break from your favorite sport while getting through an injury.  When I was 16, I hurt my back in gymnastics while I had goals and dreams of getting a college scholarship!  Well I had to quit after a year of rehab and not improving much.  I will never forget that!  I still miss it. Now I am out of tennis and definitely miss that.  I know eventually I will get better.  Tennis isn't that strenuous of a sport for the level that I play, so hopefully I can get back to that no matter how my knees end up in the future. 

Nobody seems to be able to help me with my pain.  It's so frustrating that I just sit here and suffer while my PA/OS does nothing to help me with it!  I don't think they really truly understand how much pain I am in sometimes! Since starting PT, it has been at least they told me to stop PT!  Anyway, thanks for the hugs!!  I really need that sometimes...I can't wait for my husband to come home so I can give him a hug.  He wants to do something go out, but I told him I probably will not feel up to it.  I am sure he is tired of hearing that.  I try to read your diary as much as I have time to, but I don't know some of these old are you?  Are you married or have a significant other?  Just curious.  Well I hope you have a good weekend!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 22, 2008, 11:09:59 PM
Hi Farrah:

I am married - just had our 18th anniversary last week, wow that makes me feel old.  I had just turned 44 when this happened in Feb and was training for a big spring of running events.  Needless to say that has been put on hold for now, in fact one event I was looking forward to was an 8k I ran in 2007 and broke my left ankle just before the finish line......hmmm this left side of mine is getting beat up.  We don't have any kids just 2 young kitties that we got last year after my beloved 20yo kitty died. I got her from the pound when she was 4 mths old so that was very hard, I still miss her terribly.

Anyway, yesterday was a fun day.  I went to watch my good ACL friend play in her soccer tournament.  I call her my ACL friend BC she tore her ACL about 3 years ago - yes, playing soccer - and had the PTB graft and all that.  I have used her as my model for recovery.

Her team won both games and it was really fun watching them.  I have never been a soccer player, softball, volleyball, golf, and yes, basketball (I'm 6'2") are my games.  The funny part was it ended up being a really good therapy session for me.  In addition to her, alot of the other players came up and showed me their ACL scars and told me their knee stories and it was really good to see that here they are playing soccer again.  I am still terrified to go off the curb but working on it, I can't imagine running but if my PT has anything to say about it she will get me running soon.

I hope things are going well for you this weekend, did you and your hubby go out for dinner?  How about a romantic evening in?  We lived in AL for a few years and they had a thing called "Steak Out" that delivered cooked steak meals to your door for a pretty reasonable price.  Maybe give them a call if you have them.  If not a pizza would be a good substitute, good bottle of wine (or not with your meds), and a DVD might be fun for you.  Let me know how it goes... ;)

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 23, 2008, 01:50:27 AM
That's great you got to watch some soccer and talk to other ACLr's.  It has to feel good to know they all went back to their sport.  You will go back to skiing again, won't you?

How's the PT going BSG?  Still doing foam roller stuff?  Are they letting you bike outside yet? 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on June 23, 2008, 02:25:36 AM
Hello BSG, on Friday, we went out to a quick dinner so I could get home and rest again.  We went to Fudruckers so he could get a nice giant hamburger.  I got a caesar salad...I love those.  It was definitely a painful night, but I did it to make him happy.  Since then, I had a very busy weekend.  I tried to cut everything as short as I could so I could rest and ice as much as possible.  My PA said to stay off of it and ice as much as possible this week, so we'll see how that goes with work from 8am-6pm every day except Fridays.  I don't know how I am going to sit at my desk and ask people to do stuff for me like I do at home!  We'll see how it goes.  It has just gotten so bad that I will try anything to get it to be less painful!  Well I hope your week goes well...glad you got to see some soccer and talk to some other people who have had the same surgery as you and are playing their sports!  I do hope you get to your favorite sports again soon!!!  My mom had ACLr on both knees at the same time a few years ago...hurt them in volleyball and now she plays tennis all the time!  She also does other sports now and then.  Well have a good one!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on June 23, 2008, 04:30:55 PM
Hi BSG!!

I just wanted to thank you for your encouragement and for letting me know how this site works as far as sending messages.  I have to wait until there are 20 posts from my end before I can send anything directly!

I've read your diary. I am impressed with your level of commitment to your physio!  Keep it up BSG.  I have a feeling it is going to be successful for you!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 23, 2008, 08:20:52 PM
Day 70 - 10 weeks post-op:

Had PT early today and was pretty frustrated about the whole stairs thing.  You know, my irrational self thinking "I am never going to be able to go down stairs again...ever, I may as well move into a single level house and wah, wah, wah....."  Well, my rational self is like, "puh-leese, snap out of it, you are way better than you were 10 weeks ago so just get on it!!"

With that attitude I went to PT.  My PT bounds in and says "I have lots of fun stuff for us today"......???  She told me how she went to some continuing ed classes last week and has some thoughts on how to get my quad to fire...... ???

We spent almost the entire session (30 minutes) working on my quad and boy are they tired.......finally!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D :D

We stood on the treadmill, backwards - but without it on.  We needed some parallel bars for balance and that was all there was.  I stood on my left leg and flexed my right leg about knee high and she held it up.  Then she put her hands on my hips and pushed down while I was "making myself long" (I am already 6'2" so not sure what she was thinking).  What I was really doing was pushing my left hip up into her hand while she was pushing down and that really put alot of pressure on my left quad.  Then she would put her hands on my shoulders and gently twist my upper body slightly back and forth and I was supposed to resist, again really putting alot of load onto the quad.  Also, she put her leg up against my left leg and I leaned into her leg bending at the knee.   Well, it was pretty tough but all I can say is it felt great!!!!!  I finally felt my quad firing and it was really fatiguing.

Then I did the stair steps and what a difference.  I was not back to pre-accident form but pretty darn close.  I could step up and down using the quad and not the compensating hip/glutes/hamstring/knee thing I have been doing which usually ended up with me "plopping" down onto the next step without any real control.  We finished up with some single leg presses, ham curls, and trampoline jogging for about 5 minutes.  Whew, I felt like I had been with a personal trainer.

I am home now icing and am going to try the step later and go to the pool tomorrow.  It felt so good to finally see some progress on this.  I am 10 weeks post-op now and the plan is to do some light jogging at 12 weeks.....GULP......only 2 weeks away.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: smelly on June 23, 2008, 08:24:40 PM
Thats fantastic news BSG!   :)

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on June 23, 2008, 09:15:19 PM
AMAZING news!!!! It is so nice to hear a success story.  I knew with your level of determination you'd get it!!!!
Congrats and keep it up

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on June 23, 2008, 09:53:14 PM
BSG - You are a star!  :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on June 24, 2008, 04:04:42 AM
That's awesome BSG!! Congrats on this big step...

I will jog at 12 weeks too.  She gave me a series of side to side and back and forth hopping exercises to get me ready for that.  I think once we start jogging we can really feel like we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

Good luck and get some well deserved rest.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: jon.eames on June 24, 2008, 08:08:00 AM
Nice one BSG im really glad for you, "the only way is up" now or down if your going down stairs ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Lolalee on June 24, 2008, 05:24:47 PM
What can I say that everybody else hasn't??  ;D ;D
Congrats on going down the stairs!! It is a hard step!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: ski_bunny on June 26, 2008, 12:51:10 AM
Hey BSG - congrats on this milestone!
One small step has proved to be a giant leap in ACL terms.

Your PT sounds pretty clued up to think up this exercise. Or maybe it came out of the"weird-and-wonderful-ACL-rehab-exercises book ... what do I know.
Either way, it's all good news!

There's no stopping you know. I feel it in ma bones.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 26, 2008, 02:26:09 AM
Thanks everybody, I don't know what I would do without you guys.

Today's PT session was pretty tame, the PT seemed to indicate there will be no more torture sessions on the table as I need to be all weight bearing at this point so with that I did the quad thing again and more trampoline "running", funny thing is when I do this on the mini tramp I feel like I am going to bounce off and need to rehab a broken neck next.

I am down to seeing the PTs 2x a week now and going to 1 when I go back to work in a few weeks.  I am scheduled thru the end of July which is good and bad.  I thought that I left PT a little early last year when I had the broken ankle and it has proved to be a bit of an issue with some of the exercises for my knee as my ankle is not a flexible as it should be.

Off to the golf course for some short game practice and then the pool tomorrow.  I feel like a whale at the pool - I have managed to actually loose 10 lbs during all this but I have become very flabby and out of shape so today I worked out in the gym and it felt good to do something like that again.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on June 26, 2008, 01:53:29 PM
A tame PT visit?  Nice!  Please don't fall off the trampoline and break your neck.  Great to hear you're cutting back the PT and back to work soon.  Have fun on the golf course and don't push it.  I doubt you are getting flabby with all of that pool work you've been doing.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 30, 2008, 11:42:51 PM
Day 77 - 11 weeks post-op:

Well, hold onto your hats, the wimpy-ist April ACLr was told today by the PT that she is doing too much and needs to take a rest!!! :o :o  This weekend I had alot of pain under the knee cap and PT no like.  She wants me to have no pain....I'm like, yeah - me too!!

I have been doing alot of biking lately, Friday I rode my outside bike for only about 1/2 hour in my neighborhood but there is nothing but hills here.  Remember I grew up in Florida so I didn't see snow or hills until my 20s (I was told that highway overpasses don't count as hills).  I remember thinking that it was rather difficult while I was biking but I didn't have any pain or anything and it was fun to be outside for a change.  Also, I have developed what my husband thinks is an unhealthy obsession with the step and I go up and down, up and down like some people wash their hands.... ::)

Well, PT thinks that the outside hills, the hour each Sat and Sun on the inside bike and the stepping up and down has done something in the knee.  I have to tell ya that when I got the the PT Palace and got out of the car I could barely walk in, if I had brought my crutches I would have used them.

Stupid me actually wore my running shoes today as I was thinking I am getting close to trying a run at PT, I guess that''s off for this week anyway   :-\  PT wants me to walk on treadmill only, get back to doing SLRs and lunges, and I can go to the pool but no biking.  I see her again Wed so we'll see.

I know there are going to be setbacks but I actually think I hit a new high by having her tell me to dial it back....she was always trying to get me to do more when I was worried about the knee pre-op and then about the graft post-op.

It's always somethin'  >:(  I guess I'll heed her advice and go to the pool tomorrow.  I'm at the point where I am really sick of this and just want to get on with things.  I know I'll always have to do exercises and sretching and that's ok but I want it to be next year and be over all this......  :-\ >:( :-[ :P
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on July 01, 2008, 12:12:59 AM
BSG, you will get through this!  What does she think you did to your knee?  Does she think it is just temporary overuse?  Or something more serious?  You just have to take it easy sometimes and not overdo it!  You find something you like and do too much of it :)  Don't worry, I would too if I could walk!  I really hope it's nothing for you and gets better in a few days...just listen to your PT!  SHe is your knee boss!  Listen to me lecturing you!  I would do exactly what you are doing!!  Haha! 

Well I am sorry you are struggling a bit right now.  Feel better soon! 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 01, 2008, 12:56:55 AM
Thanks Farrah, I should be the one supporting you and will post on your diary shortly.  I know this is a series of ups and downs but in general the whole thing just sucks!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on July 01, 2008, 01:17:47 AM
THanks for your note on my diary BSG!  I don't feel like my situation is more or less difficult than anyone elses!  I am just having a longer recovery...that's all.  I do hate it, but there could always be worse!!  I am sure those soldiers you see are a lot worse mentally and some physically.  I can't imagine being on a country where a war or fighting is going on.  My cousin is in Iraq right now and is in a safe area he says.  I definitely worry everyday about him!  I spoke with him for the first time since he was deployed back in March.  I talked to him on AIM on Friday after my OS apt.  It really gave me a high for about an hour despite my bad bad pain I was in.  I had to call my grandparents and my parents to tell them that I spoke with him and that he is safe!  He only gets 30 minutes of computer time now and then and it was 12am his time when it was about 5pm or so our time.  Speaking with him made me forget all my daily stresses!! 

Anyway, I really hope things improve for you.  Just keep going at it, but take it easy too!  Please don't feel bad complaining on here b/c of anybody that may be worse!!  Everybody has their own degree of problems that are just as difficult to get through.  Always vent on here b/c everyone is here to support you and make you feel better mentally and physically if possible :)  Have a great night and thanks for your post on my thread!  I love reading what others have to say and the support is so great!!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on July 01, 2008, 02:18:01 AM
Hey BSG, sounds like you had a rough PT visit.  Don't you love it?  Do this, do that, no you're doing it wrong, harder, faster, not that way, this way, you're doing too much, you're not doing enough....AAAGGGHHH!!!  Repeat after me..."I love PT, I love PT, I love PT".   Well, at least you know you're able to push past the pain.  That's a huge accomplishment.  If you scale it down a bit you'll bounce right back.  Take a day off and go golfing.  That will put you in a better mood.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on July 01, 2008, 03:47:47 AM

I am in the same boat.  I wrote about how my knee was clicking, and it got even worse after that.  In addition to that, my knee started to hurt.  First it was in the medial side, then it moved under the kneecap.  I cut back on my weights and cut out single legged hopping that PT had prescribed.  It has now been several days and I am feeling a little better, the pain has lessened and the clicking is less, but both are still there.

I think the knee just needs time to recover.  It is all good.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 09, 2008, 09:46:09 PM
Day 86 - 12 weeks post-op:

It's been a busy week, my niece and nephew (10 and 13) are in town from Fairbanks, AK and we have been entertaining them, Friday was spent walking around a local mall (not much shopping where they live) and on Sat we went to the Inner Harbor in Baltimore and visited the aquarium and walked around the harbor (about 7 hours) and then took in an Orioles game.  Sun was spent painting a room here - I hope no one checks the line at the baseboard 'cause it was hard to squat down to paint there.

Tues I drove my nephew from Wash, DC to NJ to drop him off with his NY uncle so that was 5 hours in the car.

So....PT this week was rather tame again.  Lots of leg presses, steps, and time on the Arc Trainer, the PT's read an article that reminded them of me and tried a new exercise for my hips, it involved the PT on the edge of the table with my feet on her stomach - I had visions of launching her out the window......but I did not - while she provided resistance and I pushed with the right leg and pulled with the left.  I did it a few more times at home and she said it has brought my hips back in line.

This week was the last of 2x a week PT, I am going to once a week next week and going back to work on Monday.  I have a desk job so I will have to make sure I get up and walk around on a regular basis.

The only bad think was that I have lost a bit of extension, PT measured -3 today.  I'll tell ya tho', I am tired from this past week's activities.  I think it is the most walking and driving I have done since the accident in Feb.  My whole leg and knee and even foot are all so sore and tired I think I will have dinner then take a shower and just get in bed with the ice pack on my knee and watch a movie or something.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Lolalee on July 09, 2008, 10:27:08 PM
Great plans for the evening , BSG!!
You are working so hard that I bet your knee recovers very quickly!!

Hope you feel fine tomorrow!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on July 09, 2008, 11:19:29 PM
Wow are about to graduate to the 1X a week PT club.  Careful...they expect you to do homework  ;)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on July 10, 2008, 11:01:48 AM
Congrats on the once a week PT.  Don't give up on the extension exercises though.  You don't want to lose that.  Maybe those "step-overs" will help. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: ski_bunny on July 11, 2008, 02:34:31 AM
Hi BSG - Good to catch up on what's been happening.
I'm glad that you've recovered from last week's epoisodes. I think it just demonstrates that the ACLr recovery is a long process with ups and downs. (stating the obvious, I know). Our new knees are still fragile and respond very quickly - and noticeably - if we demand any 'extra effort' from them.
And while it would have been lovely to have your nephews around, all the additional activities would have been a big change for your knee...

But hey, one PT visit per week is great news! And I'm sure you regain your extension again very quickly. In fact, you probably already have by now :)

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on July 11, 2008, 03:51:00 AM
Hi BSG, I appreciate your support on my diary!  It means a lot to here I am to support you.  I can't believe all the activities you have been doing!  Hopefully the soreness improves for you.  You have sounded (read) a lot better this week than last. 

That's awesome that you get to go to PT once a get one more day of your life back!  Just keep up with your exercises at home as often as you can so you can continue to improve!  Good luck!  I am thinking about you!


PS What color did you paint the room???  I will be there with a magnifying glass looking for errors on the base boards b/c I can squat!!  Haha...NOT!!!!  Not even a 5 degree bend for me! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: smelly on July 13, 2008, 12:26:26 AM
Day 77 - 11 weeks post-op:
  I'm at the point where I am really sick of this and just want to get on with things.  I know I'll always have to do exercises and sretching and that's ok but I want it to be next year and be over all this......  :-\ >:( :-[ :P

I hear you......... me too! you are doing really really well BSG.......... it wont be long until its all over and life will be back to nomal.  :)  I promise!  :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 13, 2008, 02:20:01 AM
Funny Farrah, I was so motivated that I painted our bathroom as well.  Not sure what's gotten into me 'cause I NEVER paint let alone 2 rooms in one week.  The name of the bedroom paint is....get this.....Ski Slope.  There must be some weird psychological something or 'nother going on with me choosing that for a color but it is a nice shade of blue.  When the light hits it it looks white and sometimes it looks light blue.  We use that room for storage and our "workout" stuff so I was in there working out one day and was sick of the old white walls with all the dings on them.

The bathroom sucked actually 'cause I had to do 2 coats but it is a nice shade of green called Green Tea.  It is one of the colors used at Mt. Vernon so I guess that's a nod to ol' GW here in the DC region.

Again, don't anybody check the edges - I would never make a living as a painter, I was actually thinking of getting some borders to cover both the top and bottom edges but I also suck at hanging wallpaper.

Hey Smelly, how are you feeling?  I take it all went well with the left knee last week.  Hope the pain level is tolerable.  My goal is to rehab my one ACL before you rehab your 2nd.... :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on July 13, 2008, 05:52:40 PM
Hello BSG, I have never painted a room in my life!  When we bought our house almost 2 years ago, the pain was all brand new, so we decided not to paint.  Well lately we have thought about it a lot and want to pain a few accent walls throughout the house. We want to paint one wall in the living room which also extends into the dining room.  Then we want to paint one wall in our bedroom. For now, we haven't talked about any others.  My friends painted their kitchen walls and put up a handrail molding and it looks horrible!!  They painted a dark maroon on top and a beige on the bottom!!!  The did this on all the walls in there.  It doesn't look good at all.  So know not to do those color combinations!!  The Ski Slope color sounds really pretty...and that is kind of ironic that you picked that one!  Did you know the name of it before picking it out?  We are in the middle of picking out colors for the outside of our house to be painted.  We argued and argued about it b/c he didn't trust that an architect (me) knows what colors go well together.  So instead of arguing since I don't feel well with my knee, I told him to just pick it out and be done with it.  So yesterday I asked him what colors he told the painter and he didn't tell me!!!  YIKES!  So now I regret letting him choose to avoid the argument!  We'll see how it goes!! 

I hope you are feeling okay with all the work around your house!  If the base edges are funky in the bathroom, then someone sitting on the toilet might notice that!!!!  Something to think about I guess.  You can always just pain white back over the base boards if it's a problem. Or paint more green down to the base depends on where and how you made it look sloppy :)  Sorry to go on about this!!!!  I have been trying to get myself off the computer over the last hour and have typed a book about painting a house on your thread! Haha!  So bye now!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on July 14, 2008, 08:46:11 AM
Ski slope paint?  I love it!  Nothing like a coincidence, huh?  Maybe you should paint some slaloming skiiers in there too.  LOL  It would be great motivation every time you look at it.

So how's the knee doing?  Are you still in pain or is it mostly gone?  How's ROM?  Hope the PT is still going well and you're almost done with it.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 15, 2008, 01:57:31 AM
Day 91 - 13 weeks post-op:

Today is exactly 5 months since the accident and 3 months since ACLr - time sure flies when you are having this much fun!!!

1st day back at work in 5 months.  Man I am so glad I was able to take this time off to rehab the knee.  I woke up this am and the knee felt great!!  Couldn't believe it felt so good, I almost forgot anything had happened.

Got in to work and although I work as a consultant this is a place that I have worked at for almost 2 years so I know alot of people there - it's a big organization in downtown DC.  The day was spent saying hi to everyone - oh yeah and doing some work - come on, you know us consultants just sit around all day........

Wow, is my knee stiff tonight!!!   :o     I tried to get up and walk around every 40 minutes or so but that was not enough.  I realized just how much walking and moving around I was doing.  In my job it's easy to sit at the desk working on the computer for hours without moving.  Tomorrow I will have to get up more often.  I was nice to be back, I think I have had enough time off and besides everyone I know works so I never got to see anyone anyway.

Lenore:  I was thinking of looking for a border with a ski scene on it.  My ROM is stuck I think, lost a bit of extension and the flexion is better but not as good as the other leg.

Farrah:  wow, you are brave letting Hubby pick the paint, unless he is a good paint picker outer.  I think someone would notice the baseboard line but it's our master bath so we are the only ones who will see it.  Normally I would be much more anal about the line but I figure I was good to go just getting it done.  I can always touch it up later, it's not really that bad.  I hope you are feeling better.

Well, I think I will go upstairs, I just got out of the hot tub and worked the knee out a little.  My big milestone this weekend was that I was finally able to stand on the op leg on the step and squat down to touch my right foot on the ground and then push back up with the op leg without difficulty.  I am still a little ploppy going down the stairs but I think my quad is really beginning to come back.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on July 15, 2008, 09:46:47 AM
A hot wing pizza party and we weren't invited?  What?  I'm hurt. 

Congrats on your first day back at work.  Isn't it great to be welcomed by coworkers?  Glad it went well for you and I'm really psyched to hear you say "I woke up this am and the knee felt great!!  Couldn't believe it felt so good, I almost forgot anything had happened.".  I think that's the ultimate for knee feel great!  That's really good news BSG. 

Keep working your ROM for flexion BSG but work even harder on that extension.  I got lazy about mine because I thought it was fine and then it came back to bite me months later.  The extension is SOOOOOO important. 

"ploppy going down the stairs "...good word....ploppy...I like it.  You're too funny.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on July 15, 2008, 07:20:50 PM
Good progress BSG!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Lolalee on July 15, 2008, 08:41:58 PM
Great to hear about your progress!! Do you have any chance to have ice or icing bar in the office? And put something under your desk to keep the knee strainght? That is what I did and it really worked! We actually don't have a freezer at work but I just put a bar at the back of the fridge and it was kept cold enough to make my knee feel better.
Hope tomorrow goes well too!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on July 16, 2008, 10:40:52 AM
I still don't know what color the house will be painted!!!!  I hope you are doing okay!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 17, 2008, 08:21:06 PM
Well, work so far has been good.  The knee gets a little - well, a lot - stiff but I am getting up alot and stretching and walking around so I think that will be ok.  I have not been so good about my exercises this week, not really doing much of anything except propping my leg up on a box under the desk and the always popular prone hang for the extension at night.

Saw the OS today and between him and the PT I am feeling a bit bipolar again.  The OS was pleased with everything except my quad size and by extension (get it - extension.....ok, I digress) strength.  He measured both quads and the left is about 2" smaller than the right.  No big surprise there and he went on to say until that comes back I am going to have trouble with stairs and going down hills - again, no big surprise.

He really took issue with the PT wanting to discharge me at the end of this month.  He said I was nowhere near ready to be on my own, I don't have to go often - once a week - but he definitly wants me supervised.  He kept repeating how this injury takes up to a year to come back from.

So I'm sitting there going like,    ::)  "well, duh - I didn't think I was ready to be out on my own."  I'm glad I had a note to take back to the PT.  Not sure why but it feels like they are trying to rush me out of the program.  So I went back to the PTs and made some appts for Aug, I see OS again in Sept.

The PTs make me feel like a wimp and the OS makes me feel like I am doing ok and moving right along so I am going with the middle ground.  Yes, I can push myself harder and I am going to - I have been reluctant to be more agressive - and I could push myself more than I have been.  However, I think the PTs are perhaps pushing too hard and I wish they would dial it back a bit.  You know they say "at 12 weeks you should be running" and I'm like well, yeah but isn't that a GUIDELINE and not set in stone.  It is a bit frustrating but I am taking the long term view and just want to heal, if it takes 9 months or a year or whatever I know I will get there.

Lola:  there is a frige and I am going to have to bring in an icepack.  The knee doesn't really swell but the ice always makes it feel good.  The box under the desk is ok, I am going to have the nurse come and look at my workstation and help me adjust things.

Lenore:  aside from the stiffness my knee is feeling pretty good and I am ready to start biking a little more - I promise I won't overdo it this time.  My ext was still around -2 so I will be keeping up the prone hangs, I sure don't want to go thru the extension parties again.  Flexion was 128 which is what it was a few weeks ago, I think the swelling is still holding that back.  PT didn't seem too concerned about it.

Farrah:  I hope things are going well for you today, I guess the house paint will be a surprise one day when you get home from work.

BNL:  how goes it on the foam roller?  Today PT had me on the Bosu ball doing mini squats.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on July 17, 2008, 08:38:36 PM
Oh no...PT and OS are playing good cop/bad cop with you?  That's no fun at all.  I think that may be part of the rehab torture tactics.  The more confused and emotionally spent they have you the easier it is for them to mold and shape you.  LOL.  Sound like you've made a good choice to do middle of the road between the two.   Lean more toward what OS tells you.  He's the only one that truly knows what the inside of your knee looks like and exactly what he did to repair it. 

Stay away from those extension parties and keep working on your flexion and you'll be done with PT in no time.  That stiffness might stick around for a while but eventually that will start getting better too.  Hang in there BSG, look how far you've come!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on July 18, 2008, 07:50:24 AM
Hi BSG,  seems like your OS apt went well.  I am glad you had a note to take back to PT with you.  Did your PT say anything about what your OS said about not even being close to ready to stop PT at the end of the month?  I am sure that is emotionally draining to hear both ends of the spectrum while you just want to heal.  Is getting a new PT a possibility?  I know you have been struggling with them since I have been reading your diary.  Do you like your PT and the facility despite them pushing you too much and making you feel like a wimp?  When people make me feel like a wimp I just want to punch them.  FOr some reason, that is a huge pet peeve of mine....NOBODY calls me a wimp even if I am being one!!!  My OS actually said I was not being that made me feel good.  He said all his findings at my June 27 apt were objective and new that I wasn't even close to faking it.  I knew that, but glad they realized it several months after I have been complaining about it.  Anyway, enough about me!  I am glad you are trying to ride the bike again...I can't wait to do that!  I have had a "new" bike now for 2.5 years and have ridden it once!  Can't wait to get on that thing one day!  Unfortunately it will be a long time since I still have another knee to "fix".  Well I hope you get things figured out between your OS and your PT!  It's important to have a supportive PT I have learned!!!  Not one that just does the job.  Happy Friday to you!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on July 18, 2008, 10:57:15 AM
BSG, Don't let them make you feel like a wimp.  You aren't.  From the sounds of it you are far from being a wimp.  I think PT's have a tendency to lump everyone into the same category.  They see one ACLR who walks in a week and they excpect all knee injuries to be able to do the same thing.  They just don't understand the complexity of different surgeries and how everyone rehabs differently.  I've found some PT's to be very supportive and caring and others to be very negative and harsh.  Like Farrah says, if you're not happy with the one you're seeing maybe it's time to look for another.  You are at a point where it's too easy to give up and you really need some positive reinforcement right now. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 25, 2008, 12:56:09 AM
Week 14:

Bipolar PT yesterday, PT said how well I was doing and that it will take a long time to be "normal" again (whatever that was).  We added a new exercise to the 4000 or so I am presently doing.  Long-arc extensions - I sit on the edge of the table and slowly do leg extensions.  That was new and nice as well BC since Feb I have not been able to lift my lower leg using just the quad.  And when I did it didn't feel too good.  While I was sitting there doing them I thought about how far I have come - I know I still have a ways to go but it is nice to see some forward movement.

The rest of the session was ham curls, leg press, and stool scoots using my op leg to push off - some type of leg extension I suppose and it really got the quad working.  I am happy to report that most every day my quads are tired.  Still small tho' I guess that will take awhile to build back the 2" I lost.

The best news was that PT measured extension at 0.....yea.....I thought I had lost some ext these past few weeks of sitting at my desk.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on July 25, 2008, 01:26:02 AM
Congrats on keeping the extension. It seems it must be tough to do!!! I am soon to find out, I expect. I've read your entire diary and it seems to me you've done remarkably well. How anyone can imply that you are a whimp is beyond me.  I would hazard a guess that the whimp calling jerk has never had a knee injury.  I can think of a few ways to fix that for you if you'd like... wink wink nudge nudge!!
Hope things continue to improve for you!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on July 25, 2008, 02:29:46 AM
Hi BSG, I am so happy for you and how well PT turned out with your extension.  I know how hard you have been working on that!  I hope it stays that way forever now!! 

Well I hope everything else in life is going okay!  How have you been feeling mentally?  More positive, I hope :)  I know that is hard to do at times, but you have been doing great lately! I hope your Friday is awesome and that you have a great weekend!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 25, 2008, 12:47:29 PM
Thanks Mookie and Farrah, yes extension has been my nemisis (sp?) these last few months.  If I had it to do over - aside from this not happening - I would concentrate extra, EXTRA hard on that.  I thought I had been but I am now realizing that with the MCL torn so badly I was really not able to do much until really the last few weeks to month.  I was doing quad sets and such but it was just tough.  It really seems like the last couple of weeks have been great and I think it coincides with the MCL healing fully at this point.  The other day I realized I was lying on my left side for the first time since the accident and the knee felt really tight and good not lax like before.

Last night and tonight my knee is really swollen, I iced both times and will try to get some on it today at work.

Ok, complaining over.  Glad it's Friday I am going to try and get home on time tonight (everytime I say "early" I end up staying late) and I hate to stay late on Fridays.

Farrah:  waiting for your news from the PS, I will be over on your thread later.

Mookie:  I may take you up on dealing with the wimp caller.  My regular PT is back next week so we'll see how that goes, only going once a week now.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on July 27, 2008, 12:19:11 AM
BSG, I am glad your PT is back next week.  I am also so proud of your for your positive attitude!!!!  Your posts are getting happier and happier as you progress.  I can't believe you are at PT once a week now!  That's a step in the right direct, isn't it?  I hope you are ready for that though...I hope the PT or OS isn't taking you out to early.  SOmetimes that can be a problem in recoveries with any injury.  Well my PS appt was as good as it could get I guess.  I hope to get some answers this week...MRI and Lumbar nerve block?  I had better get some answers! :)  I am so glad that I have paid my deductible...otherwise I wouldn't be able to get these diagnostic tests done like I am!  Well I Hope your Saturday is going well.  I hope that swelling has improved as well.  Keep laying on your left side!!  :)

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Lolalee on July 27, 2008, 10:22:31 AM
I am really glad to hear about your progress!! It is great that you can lay on your left side!! That shows how well you are doing!!

You are so experienced in doing your exercises that that is probably why you don't need to see your PT as frequently!!

It is amazing how well the knee responds when it is ready to do things again!!

Hope everything continues this way -well, not the swelling, hope you get rid of it soon!! :)

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on July 28, 2008, 01:03:34 PM
Hi BSG, just checking in to see how you're doing.  How's the extension?  Is it holding?  Hope so.  Are you still doing the pool work?  It's great your posts keep showing improvement.   Pretty soon we'll have to graduate you from the extension parties. 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 29, 2008, 12:59:15 AM
Week 15:

My regular PT is back and we had a pretty tame PT session this am........7 am.......boy was I spoiled with all that time off getting up and going to PT in the afternoon, not early, and then having to work all day.  Did leg presses and ham curls, long arc extensions and stool scoots and all felt really good.

I was going to go to the pool tonight but work today was dead.....I sat at my desk all day doing's funny how when you sit all day you get more tired than if you were actually working so I just came home and chilled out with the kitties.  I miss spending the day with them so I thought I would give them some extra TLC tonight.

The knee is holding up well, it gets swollen and stiff but I get up alot at work and after a few steps it falls into line nicely.  I guess it will still be awhile before things are "normal" but this week is better than last so that's always my litmus test.  The extension seems to be holding and the flexion is almost there, last night I was lying in bed and I actually pulled my knees to my chest and was almost able to hug them to my chest all the way so although we did not measure this am that was the best yet.

Lenore:  since the extension parties involve adult beverages you are going to have a hard time getting rid of me.....besides what would I do without all my fellow KGs to commiserate with....?   ;)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on July 29, 2008, 02:49:57 AM
Hello BSG, sounds like your flexion is doing great!  It's probably good to have a tame PT session before work.  I know how it is to be so tired after a long boring day of work.  Those days always last longer than busy ones.  You just keep looking at the clock and it would only be 5 minutes until the last time you looked.  Of course, I come home and rest nightly! 

Well I hope you have a good week of work!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on August 04, 2008, 08:58:29 PM
Yeah!  You're still coming to our parties even after you're all healed up?  That's good news.  I feel like I've lost all of my April ACLr's one by one.  Boo Hoo!  No, seriously, it's good you're all healing so well and going on with life as you know it. 

Glad to hear your extension is holding and you're able to pull your knees to your chest for flexion.  I hope your swelling and stiffness go away soon too. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 05, 2008, 02:06:43 PM
Hi Lenore, yeah, I noticed how we all have fallen off one by one.  I hope everyone is doing well and I am glad to have had them all when I was going thru the surgery and initial rehab.

I have been lurking on your thread as well as Farrah's and Candace's mostly as I am down to PT once a week and things are slowly coming back little by little.  I noticed the other day I was doing much better on the stairs both up and down so that was good, I seem to hardly think about it now.

I also noticed that sometimes after work I can hardly walk I am so stiff and I get some pain under my kneecap and just generally feel like an old lady.  Things usually get better after a few steps or I get home and ice so onward and upward I say.  Driving in the car is the worst, my commute is about 40 minutes right now as it is August here in DC and Congress is out and everyone else is on vacation so less cars but all the tourists are here so more walkers and bikers (which BTW I am really beginning to dislike as they ignore the rules of the road   >:(  and do the stupidest things in traffic but that's another website I need to find to rant about that).

I have PT on Thurs so I'll post again then, meanwhile I will catch up over on the other threads.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 07, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
 ;D ;D ;D I RAN TODAY!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

It wasn't pretty and went something like..thump, THUMP, thump, THUMP, thump, THUMP....with alot of snap, crackle, and popping not to mention quite a look on my PTs face but.....

 ;D ;D ;D I RAN!!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on August 07, 2008, 02:38:59 PM
Congats BSG.  I love the description of the limping run.  I can just see it now.  How was the pain when you were thump THUMP thumping?   
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on August 07, 2008, 06:21:30 PM

Good to hear you ran.  That sounds like me.  I experience a moderate amount of pain on impact (maybe a 5) when I run.  It is a pretty ugly scene overall :-)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 07, 2008, 06:33:53 PM
OMG I feel like a little kid about this!!  I called everyone I know to tell them and they must think I'm crazy!!!   ::)

I didn't have pain in the knee but an odd pain on the inside towards the back of the knee - the PT said the way I described it it is not my MCL.  Nothing sharp it was more like a stinging sensation on impact and did not last.  My form was terrible and I think if I do a little bit on the treadmill I can get back in the rythym of running.  I liken it to T's description of an out of control chicken.

The look on the PTs face was priceless and I was so thankful that we were the only 2 in the hallway when this was happening, thank goodness for patient confidentiality as I have sworn her to secrecy on this little episode.

I am at work now and the knee feels pretty good overall, I thought I would see how it feels today and tomorrow morning and then try a bit of running on the treadmill at home this weekend.

It sure was a big morale booster as I see that I am not going to fall or my knee won't break in half.  As the other April ACLrs know I am the one who has been rather timid in my rehab.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on August 07, 2008, 08:25:34 PM
Hello BSG, sounds like you are still doing great!!  Sorry about that odd feeling that was short lived.  I hope it's gone now...and stays gone!  I hope that running works out for you.  It seems many KG people are bypassing me when their surgeries were just in April or even May!!!  I guess I just don't have good luck with recovery.  I have been working very hard at it though. 

Time for another nap...had a GA this morning for the nerve block and I am extremely sleepy.  Have a good Friday tomorrow!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 08, 2008, 01:29:05 PM
Hey Farrah, try not to get discouraged, I know it is hard to watch people come and go on here but soon you will as well.  I watched all the April ACLrs recover faster than me but I refused to compare myself as we all had different situations.  I am just happy that today is better than yesterday.

This AM my knee is a bit swollen, I iced it but I think I'd better take it easy.  I wanted to go to the pool last night but also wanted to see how it would react to the "run" LOL  ::)  yesterday.  So far just swelling and a little aching but overall I think it's ok.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Lolalee on August 09, 2008, 08:23:21 AM
I couldn't stop laughing when I read your description of running!! That was me as well! I thought I was particularly difficult and that people start running confidently from the beginning  ::)
I wasn't on my own when I ran for the first time last Tuesday, I was in a room with something like 20 people with ACLr! How embarrasing!! And the PT had to leave me at my path because everytime he increased the speed and asked me to run I jumped, put hold my hands on the side bars and put up my feet shouting "I can't, I can't!!". I have to say that I run, eventually.

I am glad everything is moving forward and look forward to hearing how your running style goes until you look like a gazelle. For the time being, I think that an out of control chicken couldn't be more accurate to describe me running  ;D.

Have a great weekend!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 09, 2008, 11:12:20 PM
LOL!!!! Lola, I too had a session on the treadmill like you described, that's when the PT said "let's go out in the hallway"   :o

I wish I wasn't so afraid to do these things, I guess with time it will come easy and for sure the little "run" has helped me with my confidence.  I was a little swollen and sore yesterday but things today are going really well.  Going to get in the hot tub after dinner and some adult beverages and try the treadmill tomorrow.

I find myself walking at a faster pace and not being so timid going off curbs or stairs.  It's funny, I have actually lost weight during all of this but have become rather flabby so it is nice to be able to step up my training.  I was watching HSN the other day (I know, my husband doesn't like me watching it as I tend to order stuff) and they were doing Power 90X.  Wow, they were doing jumping lunges and all sorts of stuff and I was like.... hmmmmm...maybe someday I can try that again.  It's so hard for me to imagine doing stuff like that....ever again.....but I know I will.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on August 09, 2008, 11:45:35 PM
BSG, before you know it you'll be doing things and not even thinking about your knee.  You're not that far away from it. 

And STAY AWAY FROM HSN!  They could sell a flat tire with that marketing!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 10, 2008, 08:32:49 PM
Ha, are soooooo right Lenore.  That I would even think of Power 90X is crazy, I probably couldn't have done it before the accident.

Today I decided to "run" on the treadmill.  For 15 minutes I walked and ran - well, you could sort of call it that - and walked and it felt really good to be doing some higher level activity.  After that I went outside and rode my bike around the neighborhood.  It was alot of fun and it felt good to be doing things like that again.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 13, 2008, 03:48:17 PM
17 weeks post-op:

Wow, big PT session this am.

Warmed up on Arc Trainer, single leg hammy curls, ran up and down the hallway 4 times, resisted lunges and stepping forward while attached to a resistance band, up and down the step with left leg, then....back to the ahllway for another 6 times up and back.....all in 1/2 hours.

Whew, what a work out!!  A little pain here and there but nothing major or lingering.  MY quads and glutes are tired.  I actually iced again at home while I was getting ready for work after icing at PT.

It felt good to do so much, we are going on vacation next week so I am looking forward to doing more and more.  I still have trouble getting my knee to bend but it's clear now that it's all in my head.  The knee can take the pounding I just need to get the quad to cooperate.

It's coming along good now and I really feel like things are getting somewhat back to normal.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on August 13, 2008, 04:15:44 PM
Oh yeah!  That's what I'm talking about!!!   ;D     :D     :)    Good for you BSG!  Sounds fantastic!  Doesn't it feel good?  You're cruising!!!

Where's the vacation?  Have fun!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 14, 2008, 12:59:18 PM
Thanks Lenore!!  I think I am beginning to see that light at the end of this tunnel.

We are going to Montana, we go fly-fishing and I golf and hike alot but probably not this year.  I may do some wading but you know how uneven the river beds are so I will be very careful.

I'll try and keep up with everyone, not sure we will have computer access there or how often but I'll catch up when I get back.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: TtheArab on August 14, 2008, 05:19:58 PM

Just back in UK and thought I would catch up on how you are all progressing. I should have known there would be large helpings of humour. Reading descriptions of first set of runs was spot on. My first one ok but second i felt totally out of control and it was only 2 days after the first.

I think over time it sorts itself out. One of the cool things that helped though was working out my weight distribution which was via our WiiFit. Spoke to PT and she said she actually recommends this for patients now in recovery. My split was 56% left (goodish leg) and 44% right (recon leg).

Great to see you making progress.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 14, 2008, 05:58:15 PM
Thanks T, glad to have you back!!!!   ;D    I'm glad to hear things are going so well for 10K!!!  That's great!!!

I thought of you the whole time I was doing the run and your description is spot on.  It is getting better but I still land straight-legged which I believe is due to my not having total quad control yet.

Gives me something to work on!!!  I have been thinking about those Wii's and will look into it.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on August 14, 2008, 06:21:57 PM
BSG!  I am so happy for you and your progress.  Normal is good! It's funny that you will be vacationing in Montana.  The other day at work some co-workers were saying that Montana doesn't exist.  They said you never hear about anything going on there or anybody that visits.  I actually have a friend that honeymooned there to go hiking and exploring there and such.  Her pictures of the place were great!  I love the outdoors!!!  We are thinking of going camping in October!  I can't wait.  In fact, we should probably already make a reservation b/c the camp grounds get booked least the good ones.  Next weekend we are spending the weekend at my parents lake house 2hrs from home (in SC)...we invited some friends to go too!  It will be tons of fun.  This weekend we are going to pick up my "new" car in SC (3hrs away).  We actually will be travelling a lot over the next 2 months!  Ohio, PA, SC, just went to Tennessee.  My new braces have allowed me to walk slowly and small hopefully it will improve as I continue the nerve blocks! 

Sorry to go on!  I hope you have a great weekend!!!  I hope you have a great trip!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 14, 2008, 06:43:42 PM
Hey Farrah, I have been following your progress and am glad you are getting some relief finally!!

We go to Montana every year, some relatives live there and we really love the place.  We stay near Missoula (that's where River Runs Thru It movie was set, the town of Lolo where Brad Pitt goes to gamble is about 20 minutes south of Missoula)  The mountains are beautiful and the sky is truly big out there.  It doesn't get dark until after 10pm in the summer so you can do alot of outdoor things.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on August 15, 2008, 01:33:37 PM
Montana looks so beautiful.  I've always wanted to visit there.  Fly fishing and golf sounds fun too.  Hope you have a great time.

I ordered the TC video you suggested.  It's the short form (37 movements).  I think that will be good for now.  In class we've learned 6 of the 60 movements.  4 more weeks to go for this session.  I think we'll only know about 10 of the movements by then.  Tell me more about your TC experiences.  I'm very interested.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on August 15, 2008, 02:31:46 PM
hello there!

I'm on a mission to steal all of Lenore's KG friends, and you're next on my list, mwahahaha!!!! Just kidding. I actually have read some of your posts in her journal and think you're hilarious! Lenore was the first person I really connected with on here back in I think January or February, and she guided me back here after being MIA for a few months.  So after finally reading her entire journal, I noticed a few people who posted a lot of replies. So i decided to check out their journals, lol.

Let me just tell you that your 2nd last post in Lenore's journal had me rolling on the floor!!! "Can it be???.....Hungry Bum!!", lol. I could actually picture myself scooting off to the sidelines to fix it, lol!. Thanks for the laughs.

So i'm gonna check out your journal a bit later today. It's always nice to make new friends on here. So sometime today I'll leave you a comment. You seem like such a funny person.

BTW, what's your name?? I scrolled down a bit but people keep referring to you as BSG.

see ya!!!
~Nevella :)
(btw, do you live in Montana?? I was just reading Lenore's post. Montana seems so beautiful. one of my fave movies is "A River runs Through It", partly because of all the beautiful scenery....I hope it was filmed in Montana, lol, otherwise I'll feel like loser, hehe. Weeeeeee!!!!!) :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 15, 2008, 03:07:25 PM
Hey Nevella, you are a riot in your own right, I have been following you as well on Lenore's thread and having so much fun reading all the posts from you and Lenore, and Candace, and Farrah I just had to jump in.

Lenore was very supportive of all of us April ACLr's and I really appreciated her wisdom back during pre-op and surgery and now post-op.  She was - no is - always able to lift me up and I just want to be able to help others here as well.

We don't live in MT but go there once a year, we hope to spend more time there after my husband retires from his 2nd career, he retired from the Army about 4 years ago now.  We live in the Wash DC area but I am originally from Florida - a little town called Hollywood which is between Ft Lauderdale and Miami.  Don't miss the heat that's for sure but I see that it's going to be in the high 90s Sunday   ???  but down to 70s by Wed and 40s  :o at night in Montana.  Last year when we were there in July it was 108 one day.....whew!!!

They actually did film the movie in and around Missoula (where we will be) and other parts of Montana.  We met the guy who ran the mechanical fish in the movie (I know sorry to spoil it but it wasn't real fish doing all the jumping for cutie pies Brad and Craig - it was this old guy making it happen)  very cool to know him as he has tons of pics and movie stuff at his house.

I am bringing the laptop with us but not sure how I will get on the web, have to find a wireless cafe I guess, we just use our cellphones out there.  If you have seen the Nature Valley granola bar commercial the girl is standing on the mountain called Lost Horse Creek, Bitteroot Valley - we have a view of that from our bedroom window.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on August 15, 2008, 04:18:18 PM
What? Those weren't real fish in the movie?? Noooooooooooo!!!!!....Hey....Did you hear that......... it was the sound of my heart breaking (next you'll tell me there's no Easter Bunny!), lol.

I'm just doin' some laundry and cooking (it's my domestic day, lol) but i'm eager to check out your journal in a little bit.  :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on August 16, 2008, 12:03:41 AM
Hey BSG!!!
Way to go with the running. I am so excited for you. I dream of running again. Perhaps once we've ALL recovered, we should have a revised KneeGeeks Olympics!!  While you are doing the "Chicken Run" I will be hot on your heals with the "Turkey Walk".

It sounds like a beautiful area, Montana. How did you come to be there???  Do tell... inquiring minds want to know.
Wishing you a great weekend!


Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 16, 2008, 02:43:52 PM
I have packed my swimsuit and running shoes and have pledged that I am going to do more rehab the next 2 weeks.....yeah, right but it's the thought that counts.......right.....??

My husband's aunt and uncle are out there and we visit once a year, we rent a place and while he fishes I golf and shop (not necessarily in that order).  We want to semi-retire there, maybe with the way RE is now we could get a good buy on something.

BTW Nevella:

Keep on rehabbing you are doing so well, we can all sign up for a Thanksgiving Turkey Trot this year!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on August 16, 2008, 09:19:43 PM
Hi BSG, I left you a note on Lenore's diary responding to what you wrote to me. 

More rehab in the next 2 weeks??  Work your butt off girl!!!!  Think think think hard thoughts!  :)  Haha!  I will think with you! 

I hope you enjoy your trip to Montana!  You may be there as I type.  When you get back, you will have to share some pictures of the sites.  I know it's just beautiful there...well I assume it is since people go there to be in natural environments.  It sounds great.  Well have a good time and really do your PT since you will not be going much lately. 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on August 17, 2008, 05:27:58 AM
Hello BSG!

Woo hoo!!! Thanks for that red banner message about the Canadian team. Yup I'm excited about that!! And as you know we've won I think 3 or 4 more today (i only watched a bit here and there). It's still kinda sad, but I'm so proud of our athletes :)

Okay, I hate to do this, but i did it with Farrah and she didn't mind. Since I'm new to this thread (but want to keep up to date), can you just tell me what injury/surgery you had and how far along you are?? Like are you still on crutches? Do you have fulll ROM? Do you still need more surgery? etc. Even point form is fine. It'll just be hard to scroll through all the pages and messages trying to figure it out, lol. You can even just message it to me if you want. I'm interested in knowing people's stories :)

Okay, well you have a great weekend! I know the feeling of saying I'll do more rehab, but not doing it, lol. I could have full quad strength by now, but I just get so bored doing my exercises. Oh well.... :) Happy weekend!!!!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Lolalee on August 17, 2008, 10:37:41 AM
How is your running style going?? It sounds from your posts that you are doing very well in general!!

Enjoy your holiday! Montana, swimsuit.....I am so jealous!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on August 18, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
Hey BSG, thinking of you in Montana enjoying your vacation.  Hope you're having a blast and the knee is holding up OK.  We miss you!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 21, 2008, 05:45:36 PM
Hello from Big Sky Country!!!!  They get 13" of rain a year here and we are getting it all today.....!!

Things have been going great!!  Going to the pool every morning and doing my laps with all the old ladies who can kick my butt in the pool....hahahaha.  Played golf yesterday and the knee held up great!!  My score still sucked so I can't blame my golf game on my knee anymore.....hahahahaha (Nevella I have stolen your laughter  hahahahahaha LOL!!)

BTW is that you in the pic with your Martin..?? Marvin....sorry I can't remember his name...hahahahaha  You guys look great!!  I will have to upload some pics from our trip.  BTW/BTW my first name is Diane I fogot to answer you that in my earlier post...thanks for asking.

I am missing my 2 little kitties terribly so today we are going to the local animal shelter where my aunt volunteers and while they walk the dogs in the cold and rain (I'm just not a dog person....sorry) I am going to brush the kitties inside where it's warm and dry....dumb dogs say the kitties.....

It is so beautiful out here, there have been fires in Idaho and the smoke has been covering up the mountains...we are staying in the Bitterroot at least the rain is washing out the air and we can see the mountains today.

Well, going to catch up with everyone, have a good week!!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on August 22, 2008, 01:39:56 AM
Hello Diane!!!

Yay, i know your name, lol. You know what's funny? I asked Lenore the other day if she knows what your name is (b/c you hadn't told me yet and I was curious) and she was like "you know what?? I don't even know! I've always just called her BSG", lol. That's too funny!

It sounds like you're having a great time over there. I'm not a good swimmer at all (i don't have endurance, and my left foot---on my good leg--sometimes locks up when i try to swim). I wish I was a good swimmer (oh well, i don't lose sleep over it, lol).

Yes that's Martin in the pic with me :) I love him so much!! Thanks for the compliment :) Do you have Facebook?? if you do, you can look through my 45 photo albums (yup, I said 45!! I'm a bit of a camera whore, lol) and see more pics of us and me and things I do, etc. It seems a lot of Knee Geeks have facebook, and I think it's an awesome way to actually put a face to the new friends I'm making on here :) But if you don't have Facebook, that's cool too. I think I have 2 or 3 friends who have rebelled and refused to join, lol.

That's so cute and sweet how you went to help brush the kitties at the local animal shelter. Were there lots of animals there??

Are there any bears where you're staying?? I have a huge fear of being mauled by a bear (lol, some people fear heights, or spiders, lol, I fear being mauled by a bear or attacked by a shark, lol. i've never been in the ocean).

have a super weekend, missy!!!

Bye Diane!!! (yesssss!! I know your name!! WEeeeeee!!!! by the way, you can steal my laugh, lol. You can also steal me "weeeeeee!!!!!". That's what I use when i'm REALLY excited about something, hehe). Ciao bella!!!
~Nevella :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on August 22, 2008, 11:32:09 AM
Diane?  Hmmm...I just don't know if it fits.  I was just getting used to BSG.  I mean after all Nevella is the queen of acronyms.  She should like BSG.  OK, Diane it is. 

So glad you're having a good vacation in Big Sky country.  Sounds beautiful!  Enjoy!

Glad to hear the knee is holding up OK.  If you start golfing really badly you can start limping and tell everyone you have the same problem as Tiger Woods.  They'll all be really impressed and ease up on you for your bad scores.  Ha! Ha! 

BTW, I'm with you on the whole cat thing.  Cats rule, dogs drool !!!   :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on August 25, 2008, 01:02:47 AM
NO TO CATS!!!!!!!!  Gross!!!!!  They are cute, but I'm allergic :(  My husband is worse than me.  I grew up with cats though, so that's what's weird.  I never had an allergy until I moved out of my parents house when I went to college.  Now I love dogs and have no allergies with them! 

So BSG is now Diane??  Wow, I didn't know it was as easy as asking what your name was.  I just figured you were being protective of it :)  I know it's a scary internet world out here.  You never know who you can trust. 

Good job on playing golf.  I have no interest in that game b/c of my bad back.  I have gone to the driving range 2-3 times in my life, but go home in lots of pain with my back.  I haven't done it in probably 6-7 years (before my knee problems started).  I will take probably 100 strokes to get to the hole if I ever played a regular round of golf....well maybe a one hole round!  Haha!  Even when I went to the driving range, I could never get it past the first distance marker!!!  I did go 70mph on the jet ski once this weekend though!!!  haha!!!  My spit was flying out of my mouth when I was laughing!!!!!  I averaged about 55mph the rest of the weekend.  Now that's a fun sport!!!  You are just free in the wind out there in the lake.  It's so much fun!!!  It's okay for certain knee problems like mine.  I just bent my knee and tightened up my thighs and squeezed the seat with them.  I didn't use my bad knee at all...except that it was bent. 

Anyway, I'm so glad that you are having a good vacation.  Montana sounds great.  That's also so great you took care of those kittens/cats even though I can't touch them or be near them ever.  I wish we had an animal shelter where they allow walk-ins to just go and help them walk dogs and such.  I would go in a heartbeat once I can walk crutchless. 

Okay, I've written a lot, Diane.  I hope you enjoyed reading it!!  Haha!  Have fun with the rest of your trip!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on August 25, 2008, 11:27:02 PM
So BSG is now Diane??  Wow, I didn't know it was as easy as asking what your name was.  I just figured you were being protective of it :)  I know it's a scary internet world out here.  You never know who you can trust. 

Yeah, Farrah, I wasn't sure if I should ask or not, lol. A small part of me was like "maybe she hasn't told them for a reason.....but maybe it's that nobody ever asked". So I figured I'd give it a shot. That's just me. I like to know people's real names.  yeah it is a scary internet world out there. But I'm okay with strangers knowing my first name :) But I'd never put my last name on here....only those of you I talk to often enough and get to know are lucky enough to know it, lol!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on August 28, 2008, 07:56:50 AM
When are you getting back? I was glad to see your earlier post. It sounds like you've had a marvelous time, aside for the rain day lol. I love both cats and dogs and have 2 of each. They are the greatest of friends and provide me with more laughs than the best sitcom sometimes.
I hope the rest of your stay went really well. Give us an update!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 31, 2008, 02:34:53 PM
Hello from The Nation's Capital (for those of you in the US):

Got back LATE last night but things went well, not like the flight out where we had to spend the night in the Minneapolis airport but that's another website....Northwest Airlines......

I'm bummed already!!!!!!!  I want to wake up and see the mountains and rivers and be off all day and see the kitties (although mine have been attached to me since I walked in the door last night).

My knee is doing really well, I am going up and down the stairs better and the only time I really think about it - besides stairs - is after I have been sitting for awhile, it is still stiff but I'm guessing that will get better as well, I'm at about the 6 month post injury mark and 4 month post-op and I really feel like things are getting better finally.

I am off to catch up on everyones threads, not having internet, email, or cable tv was both good and bad.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on August 31, 2008, 08:22:28 PM
Welcome back Dianne.  We missed you!!!  Glad to hear you had a wonderful time (other than the wonderful joys of flying) and I'm really glad to hear you say the knee is doing well.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on September 01, 2008, 01:58:51 AM
Welcome back Diane!!! hey, I even have Lenore calling you by your first name (weeeeeeeee!!!!). it's funny that ever since I asked your name, now everyone calls you Diane, lol. sometimes I"ll call you BSG just because I love acronyms (yessssss!!!).

Anyways, I'm on my way out, but i'm glad you had a great vacation and your knee is doing well :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on September 02, 2008, 01:33:28 AM
Hi Diane,

I'm glad you had such a great time at the mountains! Sorry about your airline problems!  I can't imagine having to sleep overnight in an airport!  I have never had to do it..thank goodness.  I am glad your knee is doing so well.  I am sure that the stiffness will improve over time.  I met a girl over the weekend (cousin-in-law's girlfriend) that had your surgery and is doing so well.  It has been 4yrs since her surgery and plays any sports that she wants to.  So hopefully you will get there very very soon.  She doesn't have a single problem with her knee.  She's becoming a nurse, so she understood a lot of what I am going through with the RSD and such.  Anyway, I hope your week goes well. 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on September 02, 2008, 05:12:15 PM
BSG-  Welcome back!!! It is great to hear your knee is doing better.  I think the 4 months is when you start seeing some major improvments. 

I can totally relate to the disappointment of not seeing mountains and rivers... Bummer!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on September 03, 2008, 11:23:44 PM
Hey BSG... I am going to stick with that haha.
Welcome home to you and your amazing knees! Glad to hear about your amazing trip and to hear that your knee performed well. I want to hear MORE about your trip!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 05, 2008, 05:07:26 PM
Well, hold onto your hats 'cause this post is my vent for the event (hey that rhymes...)

As you know I have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks, playing golf, swimming, hiking, biking, running, walking, squatting, bending, you know - just basically living.

Yesterday I have my PT session, she asked if I had been doing my home exercises, I told her about my vacation activities and that no the last couple of days back I have not gone to the gym but I don't really do 3 sets of 10 three times a day.  I kind of do the exercises when I am able like waiting for the elevator or heating my lunch up or whatever.....I am going to get back on track this weekend (yes being lazy I know but still trying to get in the working/going to gym mode).

Well, I'm not sure what was up her @$$ but she gave me this lecture about doing the exercises and what not and then I had to go to the Dr and she would fax my progress note to him.  I took a look at it and was stunned.  She wrote that I was non-compliant with the HEP, nothing had changed since last month (when she felt that I was ready to be D/C - DR was not happy about that) and that she doesn't know how to motivate me any longer (her words).

The Dr read it and looked at me and was like - you feel great, you look great, you just did all those activities on vacation, you're clearly better than last month and things are going along on schedule - get a new PT!!  He even wrote on the Rx that I was doing GREAT (his CAPS) and that I was only 5 months out, blah, blah, blah.

Well, those of you on here know my saga and that I have been having PT issues from the git go.  I should have switched long ago but just hesitated.  Well, she has motivated me alright, next week I am going back to the PTs I used last year when I broke my ankle.  I am going to cancel my future appts with her.  Hubby thought I should talk to her but I was like - why bother? - I don't really care that much about her anyway.

Maybe she was having a bad day but you know, that's her problem I'm outta there.  I was really upset about it yesterday and today I'm a bit irked but I'll get over it.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on September 05, 2008, 05:13:32 PM
Wow BSG...that is crazy!  Glad you are doing well  :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 05, 2008, 05:27:44 PM
Wow!  Doesn't it make you wonder why those people chose the career they're in?  I had a PT kinda like that and she moved on to somewhere else Thank God!  Now I have the best PT guy ever!!!  Good for you going to another one.  There's no excuse for her actions.  You're doing great and she should be motivating you and telling you that instead of scolding you for not doing what she wants.  I don't think she was just "having a bad day".  Sounds like she just needs to pick a new career.  Hopefully her boss will figure that out in time. 

So the only problem you are still having is that the knee gets stiff when you sit too long?  Or are you still having other issues?  You still have breadstick leg too, right?  Anything else?

It's great hearing you say you are doing so many activites again.  I think you summed it all up in the statement "just basically living".  Remember those times when your knee was killing you and you never thought you'd be doing all those things?  Good for you BSG!!!  Keep on livin' !!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 05, 2008, 05:33:19 PM
Thanks y'all, I wanted to post yesterday but was just too upset.   >:(

Lenore - yes, the only real issue I am having is the stiffness and the breadstick which holding me up with the stairs but that's a matter of strength and I know that will come. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Lolalee on September 05, 2008, 09:34:43 PM
Welcome back!!

So glad to read about your improvement!! Wow! Your holiday really sounds like a "normal" life!!

Great idea to change PT! What a nonsense to say that you are "non-compliant" when you knee is doing great and you have been doing so much exercise!

I have reduced the amount of home exercises because I am all day on the bike and the gym, what is the point of doing a few squats when I am cycling 1 hour daily??

Look forward to hearing more good things!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on September 06, 2008, 03:55:59 AM
BSG, you have a great OS to understand that it is your PT that's the problem and not you!!!  You are doing so great even though I haven't followed your story since the beginning.  I can just tell you have been through a lot and have been working hard getting your life back on track.  Living life is actually what helps the most I think!  It's the normal activities that help regain and gain a lot of strength.  Today I got a complement from my PT that my quads in my surgery leg actually look really good.  I think it's the quad sets that I do every now and then and also from the driving, from moving around, and stuff like that.  So living life is sooooooo good for us in so many ways and it's a great thing that you are changing PTs and hopefully will now have one that realizes what's really good for you.  I can't wait to hear your next story about your new PT sessions.  You definitely don't need to talk to your old PT unless you feel the need.  I do know enough to know that you were having problems with her for as long as I have been reading your diary.  You definitely deserve better and hopefully will progress even faster and be just happier with a new PT.  Good luck, BSG and I appreciate all your support on my end!!!! Happy weekend! 

I love how you say Y'all b/c that's a word I use all the time being from the South of the USA!  I am originally from Texas and have lived in GA for almost the same number of years now (since 1997).  Actually, I have lived here longer now...yikes...I can't be a Georgian!!!!  I am a Texan...haha!  Okay, have a good one and cheer up...I think this will all be better for you!!!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on September 07, 2008, 04:10:07 AM
Hi Diane,

I can relate when it comes to having an awful PT (in terms of personality or moods, etc). I switched PTs about 2 months into my rehabilitiation because she was very uncaring, and didn't know what she was doing. One visit she was holding up my leg (one hand above my knee, one hand below), and proceeded to let go of the bottom part of my leg. well, as she knew, I had severe quad atrophy and so I wasn't able to hold up my leg on my own. So when she let go, my knee bent quickly, and I could feel the scar tissue ripping (i was also suffering from arthrofibrosis and had a lot of scar tissue built up). It was excruciating! And what was worse, she denied letting go of my leg! i mean, what...was i imagining it??? And one time she wanted to measure my flexion and had me sitting on the table with my legs extended and asked me to bend in as far as I could. I did (not too far) and she told me to hold it in that position until she returned with the goniometer thingy. Well, back then it was painful for me to keep my knee bent for too long so I had to straighten it. When she came in the room she scolded me that she was very busy and that I was asked to keep it bent. And now she had to wait for me to re-bend it, blah, blah. I told her (nicely but firmly) that I can't keep it bent for too long. Soon after that I switched therapists. But was still at the same clinic. I ran into my ex PT once or twice (it was only on Fridays that both PTs were in the clinic). I just flat out ignored her. like you I didn't bother trying to speak to her. Why bother?? Once I switched PTs I began to improve immensely.

So long story short, lol, I'm glad you left that PT. And I'm glad you didn't try talking to her. It's obvious she just doesn't care. And you don't need someone like that. It truly does make the difference having a caring PT. And you deserve the best!!!

enjoy the rest of your weekend :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 07, 2008, 03:31:23 PM
Yeah, I am fortunate that the Dr is reasonable.  Everything I read about ACL/MCL rehab is long.  It take professional football players up to a year to come back, I know some people come back faster but I guess I am not one of them.  I guess she thinks I WANT to be this way, I should have switched the week of my surgery but all that is water under the bridge so I will see the new one tomorrow and go from there.

I rode the bike yesterday and did my exercises and my knee feels so much better.  The last couple of days it doesn't even feel stiff so I am having a good couple of days.  I know there will be bad days but hey, that's life right.

Nevella - sounds like we had the same PT, I remember trying to get extension and they were merciless about that, then when I finally made it - and kept it - they just were like....whatever, no "good job" or good for you" or anything.  When I would do something and tell them I had pain (not just discomfort but real pain) they were like put out so yeah, another life lesson to not put up with that in the future.

Farrah - a Texan, egads!!!!...I do say y'all and all y'all (that's how we conjugate verbs in the south) alot and people give me a hard time.  Course Lenore would say "youse guys" so it's been fun moving around and getting exposed to all the "dialects" in the US.  You live in GA so you know what I mean, we lived in Huntsville, AL for 6 years and if I ever hear "bless your heart" again I will scream....yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 07, 2008, 03:41:58 PM
Diane, glad to hear the knee is not so stiff the last couple of days.  I think your worst days are way behind you.  Onward and upward from here.  And now that you've ditched the nasty PT you'll progress even faster. 

I picked up y'all from living in Florida 5 years but most of the time I say "you guys".  I think "youse guys" is NYC or PA.  I think one I'd like to scream about along with your "bless your heart" is "honey".  If one more southerner calls me "honey" I'm going to punch them.  Ha! Ha!

Have a great Sunday BSG!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on September 07, 2008, 03:47:02 PM
Diane, I really hope that your new PT appt goes well tomorrow.  I will be anxious to read about it when you can post about it.  

What state do you live in, Diane?  Nevella is actually from Canada, but may as well be from the US b/c it seems to be very similar there.  Haha!  

I hate that phrase, "bless your heart" too!  I also hate when people call me "honey" or "hun".  

Well good luck tomorrow!!!!!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 08, 2008, 06:10:29 PM
Saw the new PT this AM.  We went over what has happened and how to proceed.  It was kind of funny when she said "you had your ACLr in April and you're here today".  Without naming names or being too personal I told her what had happened and that I just wanted to begin fresh and get stronger and out of PT.  She also had worked at the old PT Palace and she knows some of them but I didn't mention names, I figured if she wants to know she can pull my progress reports from them, the new PT is associated with my OS' office so they share files.


She seemed surprised when I told her that all I was doing at PT was exercises, the hands on had ended back in June.  I told her they would tell me to ride the bike for 5 minutes and then disappear, after the 5 minutes I would either keep riding until they came back or just stand around or go into my other exercises on my own, I would be at PT for up to a hour and 1/2 sometimes but only see the PTs for about 20 of that, 20 icing, and the rest on my own.

She took measurements and wouldn't you know it my knee would not cooperate so I didn't have full extension.  Flexion was good tho' 137 on left and 143 on right leg so she said she wasn't even going to be concerned about flexion.

She then handed me off to the PT techs and I went thru some of the same ol' exercises but they supervised me the entire time and by the end boy was my leg fatigued........what a great feeling that was!!!!!!!!!

I am going to see her 2x week for next month, I told her I was committed to rehabbing and would come in as often as she wants me to.  I am going to go back to doing everything twice a day and see if I can get going.  Everyone here is allowed to scold me if I do not comply.... ;D

This weekend I did some gardening and general work around the house and my knee felt great!!!  Maybe this AM it was a little swollen from that and that's why I didn't have full extension.

Farrah:  we live in the Northern VA area but I am originally from South Florida near the Ft. Lauderdale/Miami area "Bless your Heart" is first on my list but "Miss Diane" (when used by adults not children) runs a close second.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on September 09, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
Hey BSG,
Glad you've ditched that PT know it all who wasn't doing anything positive for you anyways!! Sounds like maybe she did you a favor in a round about way. You've moved on to someone who is going to assist you with the rest of your rehab and you are motivated to "git er done". I suppose without rotten PT's, we wouldn't appreciate the good ones so much! I have a breadstick leg too lol, though I call it my chicken leg. We just gotta keep up with those exercises and eventually get those muscles back to where they should be. I'm with you on that one. So, I'll be your watchdog if you'll be mine lol?!?

All the best today,
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 09, 2008, 06:28:09 PM
You betcha Candace, it is funny in that by writing that note she has lit a fire under me to get this over with and get on with things.  I did all my exercises again last night only to discover that I am to do them ONCE a day ...... oops ...... well, if 1 is good 2 is better right ....... I know not always.

I got up this am and rode the bike than launched into the exercises and left some for tonight.  I have had more pain around the MCL area but I'll ask about that tomorrow.

LOL at chickenstick, I have an 1.3" to build up to match my other leg.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on September 10, 2008, 02:37:34 AM
Diane, congrats with the new PT.  Your attidue definitely seems more positive now!  Don't worry about having your ACLr in April and just now getting to some things.  Crap happens, you know?  You will get there...espcially now that you are being taken care of the correct way.  Will yoru OS ever see you during PT?  My PT clinic is adjacent to the OS hall, so we see every doctor, patient, and nurse walk by during PT.  Sometimes the PAs, nurses, or doctors see me and stop by to say hello.  My OS is suppose to see me purposely during PT instead of having another appt for now.  I wonder if that means no more appts??? Scary thought since I have so long to go still.  Anyway, I hope that you are feeling okay.  Continue your hard work!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 10, 2008, 04:38:06 AM
Doing your exercises twice now?  Wow!  You really are feeling motivated.  It's great your new PT is helping you already.  Sometimes it just takes someone else believing in you for you to believe in yourself. 

That's great you are feeling fatigued and loving it.  Keep up the good work Diane.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 10, 2008, 03:32:53 PM
New PT session #2 - wow, she is wearing out my quads!!!!   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

I was there for an hour this am and working the entire time and at the end I was soaked with sweat and really fatigued (I am SO out of shape).  We spent some time doing the extension torture routine but I think this time it won't be as long or tough as before, I only have a few degrees to go.  A lot of resisted SLRs and the PT techs supervised my exercises the entire time.  Before I used to do a few stairs squats and I know my form was terrible and the PTs would be like  - ok let's do this now - I should have made them correct me and do it right.

Oh well, I need to just forget that and be happy that I have found someone who will really make a difference for me.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on September 10, 2008, 06:27:07 PM
Diane, I don't do hardly anything at PT and I also end up drenched in sweat!  So don't feel bad about that :)  Haha!  I just got a call from my PS and I have to be at the surgery center at 8:40am.  I hope I am first so I don't have to wait for those patients who take forever!  Ha.  Anyway, I am soooooo  happy for you and your new PT.  Your attitude has picked up so much!  I'm sure that helps your recovery process as well!  Good luck!!!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 12, 2008, 05:15:16 PM
Wow, I have been hitting my knee hard and it is letting me know it does not like it!!!  Today it is very stiff and sore but not in a bad way if you know what I mean.  I think I will cut back a bit but keep on with the exercises.

Here is what I am doing:

Bike - 10 min, level 4, RPMs 70-75
Wall squats - 20 times hold for 2 seconds
Hamstring stretches - 20 times/hold for 10 seconds
Reverse lunges - 10 each leg
Bosu - stand on left leg 3 x 60seconds

Hamstring stretches - 20 times/hold for 10 seconds
SLRs - 30 times/hold for 2 seconds - 4lbs
Prone hang - about 15 minutes while I watch TV-I can do this pretty easy now, it's harder on my right leg

Sitting at work is tough but after I walk a few steps I'm usually ok.  Well, short day today leaving at 3pm ........ wooohooo!!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 12, 2008, 05:41:37 PM
Stiff and sore but not in a bad way?'re starting to like the feeling of pain BSG?  You're funny.  Those exercises don't sound too bad.  Good for you doing AM and PM.  Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on September 13, 2008, 04:54:04 AM
Diane, good luck wtih all those exercises and stretches...good for you!!  I can't wait to get that far!  As soon as the pain goes away, I hope to be able to add on some to my very very short list.  I mostly stretch for now. 

Well it's bedtime.  I hope you have a great weekend!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on September 13, 2008, 09:43:07 AM
I love that you are getting those quads fired up!! I can't believe the difference dumping your old PT has made for you. Keep up the good work and that amazing attitude!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 15, 2008, 05:26:58 PM
Thanks everyone, it sure is good to get positive feedback from the PT for a change!!  This weekend was tough, I had alot of pain Friday and Sat we had a party so I was on my feet all day, about 14 hours, my knee was so swollen and so Sunday I just took it easy and watched football.

This AM I had PT and I think it went well, I have got to get out of there in less time than 1 and 1/2 hours tho', sure makes me late for work but I didn't want the new PT to think I am bagging it so I will do it for another week or so, it's only Mon and Wed anyway and my workplace is flexible so it should all work out.

I am seeing some strength gains and this am the PT had me on my tummy and did heel to butt - not all the way but she tried and it was not bad, a little pain mainly due to the quads being tight but the whole time I thought of Lenore.....

I'm at work now and it's a bit sore but I iced alot and will do it again tonight.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on September 15, 2008, 05:41:16 PM
Hi Diane, I am glad PT went well for you this morning.  I understand about getting in and out of PT b/c you have to go to work!  I don't care anymore and definitely should.  I try to make up time here and there.  So they don't mind it, but I am a "special case" as far as some flexible time goes.  My office has been great in supporting my recovery.  With the bad economy though, I definitely need to be careful about missing too much and not making it up.  I am usually out of work for 2.5-3hrs total on a PT day.  One of those hours counts for lunch and I eat it on my way back to the office. 

Anyway, heal to butt is great even if you didn't make it all the way.  :)  It's good that your quads stop you and not your knee.  It will improve as you continue stretching it.  I am still so happy for you in that you finally have a PT that takes care of you!

Well keep icing until your soreness is almost gone.  I learned from my procedure on Thursday that ice works great for temporary back soreness!  I have back problems and ice doesn't help that, so that's why I said it helps the temporary problems...soreness from getting a bunch of needles stuck in you. 

Well take care of yourself and have a good work day!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 15, 2008, 05:56:14 PM
Hi Diane,  I'll race you for HTB.  If you were close and it didn't hurt much you'll get there quickly.  I'm so glad you switched PT.  It really does make so much of a difference both mentally and physically doesn't it?  When I had bad PT people I'd leave there feeling like a total failure and wanting to cry and now I leave there just knowing I'm doing great and very optimistic. 

Really good to hear your quad is starting to strengthen.  Now that breadstick leg with be a breadloaf leg.

Well, we're all done with the extension parties so maybe now we can have some flexion HTB parties.  My place or yours? 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 17, 2008, 04:58:22 PM
Wow Lenore, I don't know about the HTB, the new PT does that stretch after the extension torture routine(I can't believe I am still trying for extension at this point - makes me madder at the old PTs but.......whatever).  The HTB doesn't really hurt per se but it's not fun.  You are exactly right about the bad PT part, I left most days so down and mad at myself that I had even begun to dread going, I still dread going but for a different reason now.

This AM was good session, massage and stretching and then my other exercises and the Game Boy icer machine at the end.  I leave there feeling like I had a real good work out and.......are you ready for this....I finally managed to do a step down properly today ....... woooohooo and wheeeeeeeeeeeee!!! Granted I was on a phone book but I did it!!!!!!!!  It's the little triumphs like that that are sooooo motivating and I was really missing out before.  The whole staff is so nice and I am seeing the Clinic Manager and she is good...very tough...but good.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on September 17, 2008, 07:43:52 PM
A phone book step?? NO way!!  Great job Diane!!!  I hope it becomes a higher and higher step quickly!  I know how long you have been working at that.  I think your recovery will go faster and faster now that you have your positive attitude with your new PT.  That's so great!  I am learning that your state of mind really affects your recovery in more ways than one! 

I hope the rest of your day goes well.  The weather is getting nice down here!!  We have been in the upper 70s low 80s for two days!!  Bye now!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 17, 2008, 08:23:41 PM
BSG, OK, we'll continue the extension parties and add HTB to the party too.  That might require a few more adults drinks though.  Believe it or not I'm still working on extension too even at 10 months.  When my knee stiffens up I can't get it to go straight unless I really work on it.  Very frustrating. 

Once again I can only say congrats on having the gumption to switch PT.  What a difference and what great progress you are making now.  Don't you want to smack those other PT's? 

How much longer will you be doing PT now? 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on September 19, 2008, 01:11:03 AM
Hey Diane!

Glad to hear your new PT is very nice and things are going well. You'll get your extension soon enough :) You seem to be determined like Lenore to do your exercises and see results (not like me, lol. I took my time......).

Congrats on the phone book step down!!!! I remember my little triumphs. They mean so much!!! Congrats!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 20, 2008, 04:43:46 PM
Hi all, thanks for the support.  I LOL at the phone book but you steps.....I couldn't do that last week and so I know I will get better at it and get up to that step.  I still sit and think sometimes "will I ever walk up and down normal again"!!!!??  My knee is so sore and swollen but I guess that's BC I 've really been working it.

Lenore - I am sick of the extension parties so maybe I'll just skip to the adult kidding too early here but maybe another hour......?  I could slap the other PTs, I see now that I was just wasting my time there, they would get me 15 minutes late, put me on the bike for 5 min and disappear for 10, same with the other machines, absolutely no hands on work and then they have the gall to say I am not working hard!!!!  I told them at 5 weeks I had pain riding the bike - the response was "don't ride the bike" I'm like....ever??  Pain on hopping at 6 weeks so we never hopped again, well I think that now I could hop and there would be no pain.....ah....forget them!!  OK, deep breaths.......

Nevella, LOVE your hair!!!!  I just keep mine short and straight so it takes me about 15 minutes at the beauty shop.....yes, I call it the beauty shop 'cause they just make me more beautiful....LOL I will have to post some pics.

I'm off to garden today, bought some black and orange pansies and some mums and thought I'd work on the front since it got so neglected this spring when I was down.  I love Halloween!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on September 20, 2008, 05:10:22 PM
Hi Diane, it's time to forget that old PT :)  It's obviously not going to erase your mind for a long time though.  Did they treat everyone the way that they treated you?  I hope not b/c it doesn't sound good at all!  I would have complained to my OS also if I were you...i'm glad that you did and now you are in a lot better hands. 

Do you practice stepping on a phone book at home?  I always hated that exercise with a passion and still do!  I have spent 8 months going up one step at a time with only my "good" leg leading.  I'm definitely tired of that and so is my "good" leg! 

Anyway, I love halloween too!!  I hate that I will not be at my office to celebrate it like last year.  We hung up things on the windows and such in our studio.  The owner of the company always got angry with us for it, but it was always so fun!  Here is a funny story!!!  Last year, I bought these sticky eye balls that were probably the circumference of a dime.  They were basically all white with a black dot on them to look like eye balls.  Anyway, they stick to windows and other things you may throw them at.  So last year, one of my studio-mates and I realized that if you throw one at a window, it rolls down slowly to the floor.  So we thought it would be so cool to race our eye balls down the glass!!!  So we would throw them up together and try to get them to land next to each other to make a fair race.  That was difficult, so we kept trying and trying and were cheering on our eye balls as they rolled down the window.  Well little did we know that 4-5 of our coworkers including the owner and some partners were standing there watching us while our back was turned to them playing with these eye balls!!!!  It was soooooo funny when we turned around and saw them and is still a story that we tell almost a year later to make someone laugh. 

Well, I don't know what I am going to be for Halloween this year...last year I was a "witch-doctor".  I dressed like a doctor and a witch to make a witch-doctor!  Haha!  It was a cheap costume.  My husband was the burger king king and was a hit!  He won first place at the costume contest at our friend's annual party.  I don't like to wear those sexy costumes, but love the funny ones.  So I will let you know what I choose this year.  Our friend's annual party is early this year and is on October 18!!!  So I don't have a ton of time to find something to wear. 

I hope you have fun planting those fall flowers.  It sounds pretty.  I hope your weather is as beautiful as ours down here....mid-70s and breezy.  Have a good weekend!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 21, 2008, 01:05:48 PM
Pictures of Diane, a/k/a BSG?  YAY!!!  Pictures! We want pictures!  YAY!!! steps, sick of this and that, and wondering will I ever....boy, don't those words sound familiar.  I think those are all covered in Chapter 6 of the KG 101 book.  I think BNL is still writing that chapter.  She's almost at the end of the course.  We'll have to ask her how it ends.  Hopefully "happily ever after" for all of us. 

Have fun gardening.  It's so much fun to get outside when it starts getting cooler.  I love this time of year.  How long before you get a frost down there? Will those pansies last a couple of months now?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on September 22, 2008, 12:56:31 AM
Wow, we've inspired others to post pics...yay!!!! I know I'll be shocked b/c I really have no idea what you look like, Diane. I can't wait!!! Weeeeeeeeeeee!!!!  By the way, thanks for the compliment on my hair :D

yay to baby steps!! definitely frustrating when making them (slow progress), but so rewarding when you make those little accomplishments. Keep up that wonderful (even if not as fast as you want) progress. You rock!!! Now post some pics, damnit!! :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 22, 2008, 01:17:12 AM
All I seem to have are pics of my cats so I will have to get Hubby to take some.  Ah, the suspense.........

Well, I got all the plants in yesterday, 30 pansies and 6 mums - WHAT WAS I THINKING!!!!  :o  - but it looks good and I am so happy to walk up to the house now.  My neighbor was so nice, his house faces ours and he was out puttering around in his garden and came over to chat, well, I had a plastic border I wanted to put between the sidewalk and our little patch of land (we have a townhouse so the area I'm talking about is about 15x20).  I guess he decided that either I was going to not do it or hurt myself 'cause he left and came back with a big pick and proceeded to dig a trench about 3-4 inches deep so we could get the border in, then he helped me fill it in and put the rest of the mulch down.  It looks so pretty and I told Hubby that he probably was sick of looking at the mess it had become and decided to help me, he's a nice guy.  Both him and my other neighbor commented on how nice the mums look, I didn't tell them I went to Michael's(a craft store here) and bought the plastic ones and just stuck them in the ground...LOL.  I told them they are "everblooms" so I hope they don't go to the nursery and ask for them, my Hubby was almost loosing it while we were standing there chatting.  I suppose I'll come clean at somepoint but it's fun for now.

Wow, was my knee ever upset with me tho', stiff and sore - I almost popped a Percocet but decided on a Tylenol.  I don't know if it's BC I'm working it harder but it is so sore and stiff.....ALL THE TIME.....I'm soooooo frustrated and I don't think it will ever be better!!  :(

Farrah, LOL at your Hubby being the Burger King, I think those commercials are so creepy.....I don't think your Hubby is creepy tho'  ;D just the ones where he is looking in the window and such.....but I'll bet he was a hit at the party.  We used to have an annual pumpkin carving party, everyone would bring their own and we'd have some snacks and carve and then judge them, it was alot of fun, maybe I'll revive the party this year.  Halloween is so fun with all the kids and costumes and such...oh yeah the candy too!!

Nevella - thanks for the good words, I guess I'm feeling a little down about everything now, I don't want my new PT to think I am bagging it so I'm working hard but it seems like my knee is getting worse.

Lenore - love your list, I think I should do something like that to break out of this funk I'm in.

Well, it's almost time for football (not soccer for you UKr's - my Dad is from London so I used to watch him referee soccer all the time when I was a kid) and my knee is sore and stiff and I need to go have an extension party so I hope everyone had a good weekend and wish everyone a good Monday!!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 22, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
30 pansies and 6!  That's a lot.  I love the "everblooming" mums.  You're mean!  How long are you going to hold out on that one?  They really couldn't tell the difference between fake and real?

Sounds like a lot of squatting and up and down.  Of course your knee is complaining, silly.  Oh yes, the SORE and STIFF all the time...yuck!  That's not fun.  Hopefully yours will keep getting better like mine so it's only sore and stiff part of the time.  I think, just like me, your crappy PT people set you back and it will take time to catch back up to where your knee should really be.  You'll get there if you keep working like you have been.  Remember when you could barely walk in the pool? 

Fatcats is the best one for making lists.  Speaking of which I haven't seen her on her thread in a very long time.  I think you should give her a shout out and ask her to come up with a good list.  It will cheer you both up.  Her lists are fantastic!

Hope today is much better for you BSG.  If not, you and I are hosting a pity party over on Tabitha's diary so that should help us all. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on September 23, 2008, 09:40:26 AM

I am back from the cabin and I have a couple of complaints to lodge against you and Lenore  ;) What on earth is HTB??????? You haven't kept me in the loop on that one lol. What could this torture be?? Heels to Bumb? I want details  ;D I also want to petition you to hurry about with those photos haha.

I am glad to hear that you are still progressing and working hard. It's tough to keep it up day after day when the results seem slow and the pain levels high. I know you can do it though, with your new determination and resolve.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 24, 2008, 01:17:56 AM
Lenore is the HTB (heel to butt or bum in the UK) queen and Nevella is the HB queen.  I have been trying to be the stair step queen, I can actually get my knee and ankle to bend now so I think I am getting close. 

Lenore - I forgot to answer your que about the ankle, I broke that last year in a St. Patrick's 8K race at the 4K mark.  I heard a loud pop and my ACL friend is like "what was that"  :o and I said it was my ankle, well, I walked a bit and then we finished the race......only a minute over our projected time.  ;D   I went to the Dr a week later BC it was so swollen but since it was the NWB bone that broke I could walk fine.  It never really got flexable and I think that is not helping with the knee bend on the step down (same leg).

Today was a good knee day....finally!!!!  MY knee was KILLING me Sat, Sun, and Mon and I was glad I didn't have PT Monday BC the PT cancelled so I did all my exercises at home.  I see her tomorrow and I hope they will be happy about my progress.  I feel like I have really progressed in just the last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on September 24, 2008, 02:38:51 AM
Hey Diane,

Are you out of your funk today?? I hope you're feeling somewhat better. Are you just frustrated that it's taking a while to see huge results?? We've all been there (and some of us are still there....not me....but others). I had lots of days when I was in a funk. I was so glad to have Lenore there for me and my boyfriend Martin.  I'm glad our words help you :)

How often do you to PT?? I think i was you saying that they spend a lot of time with you at this new place, right? Do you get massages too??

Speaking of stairs ( you mentioned it before) I remember that for the longest time I couldn't walk down stairs without holding on to the railing and always stepping down with my good leg first. I still do it sometimes, but it's because i keep slacking on my quad exercises. but it still felt great when i could finally walk up and down stairs.

i hope tomorrow is a better day for you and you're not in your funk. we're all entitled to those days, but i hope they are few and far between for you from now on :)

~Nevella :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on September 24, 2008, 02:39:46 AM
by the way, i'm still waiting for you to post a pic, lol. so you'd better get out of your funk and take a picture, damnit!!! :D lol!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on September 24, 2008, 08:11:54 AM
Still waiting for the pictures haha.

Diane, maybe you just needed a little bit of a break. You have been pushing really hard lately. Hopefully you get the praise and recognition you deserve at PT tomorrow. If you don't, we are going to gang up on your PT and go on over there and give you hugs and encouragement ourselves. WE know and YOU know. That is all that matters, right????

Good luck tomorrow,

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 24, 2008, 10:54:02 AM
You finished the race on a broken ankle?  Ouch!  And you have the nerve to call yourself a wimp in some of your earlier posts?  Yeah right!  I wouldn't be finishing any race on a broken ankle.  I think you are a superwoman in disguise BSG. 

Don't stress about the stairs.  I still struggle going down some days.  On the good days you'll be going down normally and you won't even think about it.  It will all come together with better quad strength and healing. 

Good luck at PT today. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 24, 2008, 04:01:03 PM
You guys are awsome, I am so glad to have you all..... :-*

PT today was good, I was having a good knee day and she thought my extension is almost there, the HTB was torture this am but I think that may be a holdover from this weekend.  When I told her about my gardening she said that it is hard on the knee and leg and didn't think I should do so much.  I am done for the season anyway, I might plant some bulbs - every spring I wish I had planted some - but the squirrels usually eat them all anyway.  I am doing so much better on the step down and I think I will get it soon.

Maybe I am too hard on myself, she said I was doing well and wants me to see her thru Oct but then that may be it, I hope to be done sooner tho'.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Tabitha on September 24, 2008, 06:02:45 PM
  :) Glad your PT went well, sorry to hear about the gardening, I am sure that was a bummer. Hopefully you have someone (not the squirels)  that can help you with anything you have to do.

Hope you can end PT in OCt, that would be awesome!!! That's right around the corner!

Stay well,
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on September 24, 2008, 08:28:03 PM
Really?? October for your final PT sessions?? That's amazing.  I am so happy for you. Tell me though, how are you really feelihg. Does it seem the procedure has been an overall success??

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 24, 2008, 09:13:29 PM
PT gave you the "D" word?  Discharge?  Awesome!  October isn't far away.  That's great Diane.

Sorry the gardening killed you but it was worth it wasn't it?  I love to garden and I bet those pansies and "everblooming" mums look great.  Pics! We want pics!  You owe us!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 24, 2008, 09:50:03 PM
The PT said that the insurance company wants to see "progress" whatever that is.  I don't know if it means I went from 3 to 0 degrees extension or if I can now jump up the stairs on the op leg.  I'm not sure that she hasn't spoken with the old PT's since she used to work there but she has really made a point to say that.

I'm fine with that as I am seeing "progress" just in the 2 weeks I have been seeing her.  I guess they must think I am a PT junkie or something.

The flowers look great but my hubby and I are going to kill them with water, I turned on the water this am and then he told me he watered last night before I got home.  Oh well, it has been rather dry here lately so they are fine, they look good.  I have black and orange pansies and the "everbloom" mums are yellow, orange and rust colors.  It's like a fall party in the front yard!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Sore knee on September 24, 2008, 09:57:35 PM
Congrats on the progress you have seen. Its so good to hear success stories and that we can overcome these knees :)

Your garden sounds lovely !
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Davori on September 25, 2008, 12:42:46 PM
BSG... lol you crack me up!     I though i'd come check out your diary.... wow.
Thank you for the advice and encouraging words on my sons thread... you just dont know how much I really appreciate it.  I love the garden idea.... sounds like what I need to do since I have 2 black thumbs... Nothing stays alive for long in my garden... except for the mysterious watermelon that grew and grew and grew in my flower bed this summer. It looked pretty so I kept watering it with pool water...... Lord only know what kind of DNA was in that watermelon.... but all the neighborhood kids loved it when we finally picked it.   I didnt eat it.... but I hear it was     Ill check back later
I love to read all these progress reports!!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on September 25, 2008, 03:29:38 PM
No BSG, that would be jumping upstairs backwards on op leg.  Come on, get it right! 

Good to hear you're still making progress.  How's the quad coming along?  Getting any sign of strength yet? 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on September 27, 2008, 12:36:51 AM
hey Diane!

what's all this talk I hear about you ending PT in October?? wow!! that's great!! so i guess that means you'll continue your exercises on your own, right? it's not like you'll be able to run by then, or will you?? sorry, i'm just trying to keep track of everyone's updates and who is on crutches and who is able to walk, jog, bend, etc. You seem to be truckin' away so you're well on your way!

I like how you said they must think you're a PT junkie, ahahaha!!! that made me laugh.  I can picture you wandering the streets, in a daze, eyes glazed over, limping, asking sketchy looking people if they can hook you up with a PT for a good price, lol. That's what i pictured when you used the word "junkie", lol. Like you need your "fix". you're funny :D

Davori, that's funny (yet disturbing) about the mysterious watermelon. Makes me think of all the yummy stuff that makes its way into pool water (i think you guys know what i mean, lol. i'm sure we've all done least when we were kids.....maybe even older?? hehe.......i admit to nothing!!). How big did the watermelon get??

ok, gotta go. I"m still waiting for your pics miss PT junkie! and some garden pics too. I can't picture black flowers. sounds cool!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 01, 2008, 12:37:40 AM
Wow, I had my PT session with my old PT this am.  He wore me a good way....Nevella, it's not what you are thinking.

He is the one who helped me rehab my ankle last year and I wish I had been with him from the beginning of this whole knee odyssey.  Today he had a nice young PT student with him heheheheheh so I was a lucky girl, of course I'm probably old enough to be their mother but I believe the term for that now is "Couger".

ANYway, he does alot of holistic stuff and hands on and what not.  Today he decided to use the technique of working the good side until the bad side responds, something called Total Motion Release.  My legs are so fatigued tonight, he had me sit in a chair and only use my good leg to get up (I could help a little with my other leg and arms) then squats, lunges, balances, etc.  We kept at it almost until total fatigue on my right ......... but guess what left side responded really well and by the time I left I was stepping up just about normal and down much better than just plopping.

It's seems I have been compensating for so long that my right side has taken over certain things and this training helps to overcome that.  It was hard but good.  I see him again Thurs, I hope with a few more of these I can leave PT behind for good!!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on October 01, 2008, 12:41:43 PM
Hmmm....I'm thinking that's more like a barricuda.  LOL  Checking out the students are you?  You might want to borrow Nevella's hot pink pants for your next visit!!! 

That's very interesting that they worked the good knee to fatigue so the bad knee would have to be strong.  I like that idea.  Total motion release?  Makes a lot of sense.  I'm going to read up on more of that.  I know I overcompensate terribly even at 10 months postop.  It's hard not to.  I not only overcompensate with my good leg but also with my hip, back, neck and every part of my body twisted just so I don't have to make that op knee hurt.  When I'm doing PT and look in the mirror I'm amazed at how twisted I am just to avoid hurting that knee.  I didn't realize how bad it was until PT pointed it out. 

Good to hear you're going to be leaving PT behind you soon.  You'll feel so proud you've come so far when they finally release you.  Keep up the good work BSG.   And BTW...we're still waiting for those pics!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on October 01, 2008, 06:40:30 PM
Hi BSG - I'm suprised you aren't running up and down stairs (backwards of course) while juggling fire and feeding a baby yet.  Slacker! :-)  I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding.  It seems you are doing well.  Keep up to good work :-)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on October 03, 2008, 04:41:00 AM
Hey Diane!

thanks for the good wishes (i think you left in Lenore's journal). Martin and I are flying out early tomorrow and aren't back until Tuesday night. So i'll catch up on your journal when I get back, k? Keep pushin' that knee :D
~Nevella :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on October 03, 2008, 10:52:44 PM
Diane, new PT techniques are always good to try...and sometimes fun maybe?  Haha.  I just hate PT b/c literally in 10 years of back and knee PT, i have NEVER felt better from it.  So I have never had a good experience from PT except getting to know new people and making new friends.  So needless to say, it's very difficult for me to think positive about PT, but I am trying sooooo hard right now since I am working with a GREAT PT for my back which she is confident will eventually help my knee.  Based on her techniques, I have confidence in her which makes it a little easier to think positively...especially with doing acupuncture for the first time ever in my back.  Reading your thread and a few others do make it also a little easier to think positively about PT as well....well with your most recent PT! 

Congrats on hoping to be almost through with PT FOREVER!!!!!!!!!  I know what you and Lenore mean about compensating!  My stinking spine is curved from it!  I hope that you have a great weekend.  Don't have too much fun...haha! 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on October 03, 2008, 11:13:10 PM
Hey Diane,
Congrats on getting somewhere near to the light at the end of the tunnel! I am impressed and encouraged by what you've managed to accomplish!

By the way, I loved the watermelon story. That is classic hahaha.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Davori on October 03, 2008, 11:38:32 PM
the watermelon got big enough to feed  11 kids and Im not talking about just a taste either... ewwww
They ate alot of it, so I have to say it was bigger than my dog and she wieghs 17 lbs....

Exactly why I did not eat any of it Nevella.... I have a rule about doing things in the pool.... but Im sure there has been som junk  in there... I use chemicles... but Im sorry... I will not eat anything that grows from pool water. Especially since I have no gardining all!!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 04, 2008, 01:11:52 AM
Yeah, I am pretty tired of PT but the way I look at it is they are making me get back to life.  If it was up to me I'd be lying on the couch and you could forget about doing anymore SLRs.   :P   It's kind of like before when I was running, the first 5 minutes sucked and I just wanted to quit, after that initial period I felt better and I was always glad I had run or worked out even tho' it was tough.

I guess I am weird that way as when I talk with others they hate PT and quit ASAP.  Here I am going from PT to PT like a junkie LOL....Nevella, your description of me comes to mind.....  I know it is going to be a long time before I am back to normal, even if the PTs release me I still have 1 1/2" of muscle to grow - that's alot of protein shakes and wall squats.  I guess it's BC I'm approaching my mid-40s now and I no longer have the ignorance of youth.  I want to have a good time with the rest of what I have left and when I look around at the older people the ones who are in good shape are the ones who are holding the door for me.

Yeah PT sucks but not being able to do what I want to do would suck even more.  Gosh Farrah, you have been thru so much and I hope things are going better for you, I have been lurking on everyone's thread lately so I hope to catch up on the posting this weekend.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on October 04, 2008, 01:45:03 PM
Don't give up now BSG.  There are worse things than being addicted to PT.  It's all good.  You'll be running up and down those steps in no time.   
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 09, 2008, 01:48:57 AM
Well, two PT sessions this week and things are getting better, the PT I have been seeing tore her ACL playing lacrosse and she has said many times that it took her a year before she felt normal again and she thinks I am doing well tho' a bit behind where I should be at this point.  It is kind of nice to hear that coming from someone who has "been there" ya know!?  The other PTs are good but she says alot of things along the lines of what my other ACL friend says so I guess there is light at the end of this tunnel.

I was a bit bummed this am as she measured and I am still at -4, she was encouraging but not very when we discussed if I will ever get full extension again.  BC of this late date it doesn't look good and that kind of threw me into a funk today   :-\  off to have an extension party  :(
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Mookie11 on October 09, 2008, 03:31:10 AM
Hey Diane,
I'm  glad your PT gave you some encouragement and positive feedback! It's good to hear you are getting closer to your overall goals. I know you will get there!! We are all routing for you. Don't be bummer about the -4, you are sooooo close. The last little bit is sometimes the hardest. Think how proud you will be when you get there!!!

Way to go!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on October 09, 2008, 11:24:44 AM
Don't worry BSG, I was still fighting extension way out postop and I got it back.  You will too.  Just keep pushing it.  Is it still making you limp or are you walking OK?  Dont' let her comments discourage you.  You can beat the odds and get it back even if they say you won't. 

Go girl, go girl!!! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on October 11, 2008, 04:14:38 AM
Diane, so sorry about your PT funk!  I hope it's better by now!  I understand how you want to be 100% ASAP so you can get back to your usual life!  At least things are improving slowly for you!  That's great!  You have been so upbeat since changing from that other PT.  So that's good too!!  Keep working at it and you will see that light.  I don't know much about ACL injuries, but everyone I have ever known to have had the surgery are back into all the same activities as they were before the injury...including my gymnastics friends!!!  In fact, one of my gymnast friends hurt it while in high school and got all better and got a scholarship to college and graduated as a gymnast.  So there is a long way for you to go until you will feel better about all of this mentally, but you will get there!!!  How about we do it together!  We both have longer recoveries than we are suppose to have.  Good luck Diane!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on October 11, 2008, 03:57:42 PM
Hey Diane,

As you know I've been away for a bit and then just catching up with work and such. So today is the first day where I have more than a few minutes to be on Knee Geeks and catch up on some of my friends' threads.

I'm sorry about your PT funk.  I forget if you already mentioned what exercises you do at home to try and get that last bit of extension. i think I mentioned to you (but it could have been someone else) that for a while I was about -5 extension and my OS told me I had 4 weeks to get to zero (or at least -1) otherwise I'd need more surgery (but that was b/c I had arthrofibrosis, so nothing to do with what you i'm not saying you'll need surgery...just to clarify :)) Anyways, I had certain things I did at home (suggested by my PT), and I did these extension exercises 5 or 6 times a day, for 10 minutes at a time. It hurt at first, but day after day it got easier to keep the weights hanging on my leg for the entire 10 minutes. I was worried that it would only give me extension for a day or so and then go back to being -5, but at the end of 4 weeks, I was at -1! And it has stayed that way ever since (I haven't had to continue the stretches).  So, do you do hanging weights at home? If so, do you lie on your stomach or do you sit up with your leg straight? I found that the one with me laying on my stomach with my leg hanging over the bed with weights around my ankle helped soooo much! If you haven't tried those, let me know and i'll send you some pics.

you're so determined that i KNOW you will make it to full extension soon :D  I'll keep checking in :D i hope you manage to enjoy your weekend!
~Nevella :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on October 14, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Time for an update BSG.  Wondering how things are going for you and hoping for all good stuff.  You didn't drink too many adult drinks at that extension party did you?

Let us know how you are when you get a chance.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 16, 2008, 01:35:31 PM
Hey Lenore, I've been out of town for a few days in Fla visiting my parents.  No internet access but it was actually kind of nice and peaceful.

Nothing much to report - still not at full extension  >:( :( :-[, I know it may come and I am working on it but it makes me so mad mostly at myself and there's nothing I can do about it.

The PTs told me I don't need to come after Oct so that was good, my knee is fully functional just have to get the quad back and that is coming along nicely.  I see the OS in Dec and I was wondering if I should call him and ask about the extension and whether to get one of those braces or not.

I am back to extension parties big time, prone hang AM/PM and sitting with my heel propped up on table with weight on my thigh just above my knee, the PT showed me that and it's kind of like when they are pushing on it at the PT Palace.

I guess I am in my funky mood right now so I think I'll just go and catch up on everyone's threads.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 24, 2008, 05:36:18 PM
Well, not much to report on lately.  My knee has been feeling great this week.  I had only one PT session this week - this morning - and I had another wonderful PT.  I so wish I had gone to this place from the git go.

She started with a nice knee massage and it morphed into an IT Band torture session complete with her elbows for massage and using the foam roller on the floor.   :o  :o For those of you familiar with this you know how it hurts so good.  After that she changed up my exercises and I did leg press, lunges, steps, balance disk while throwing ball and a new hip flexor stretch.

My new homework is to get my IT band looser, she thinks that and the last bit of swelling is holding up the extension and I really hope she is correct.  she mentioned that the lack of extension won't make much of a difference in everyday life (I am at 3 degrees so I did gain 1 degree this week) but it will if I go back to running 'cause my leg won't be straight when my heel hits and blah, blah, blah it will cause more issues.  So it doesn't look like I am off the hook with the prone hang for awhile.

I have 2 more sessions next week and then that's it I guess.  I have heard them talk with other patients and say they can check in from time to time so I'll see what that means and maybe I can get them to check on my extension every so often.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 24, 2008, 05:37:22 PM
forgot to mention that I went up and down the stairs to the office this am without any issues.    ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on October 24, 2008, 05:51:28 PM
Hey, you must have heard me talking about you over on Davori's thread.  I was inviting Trace to our extension parties. 

Glad to hear things are going well.  Only 2 more sessions of PT?  That's great!!!  You'll loving being PT free but don't be a slacker like me.  I'm having a had time staying motivated.

Your PT is probably right.  Any swelling will hold up ROM.  How's everything else?  Pain level, strength, quad, etc?  Are you feeling like you're almost back to 100%?

How's your confidence with the knee?  I usually don't have confidence issues with anything but I'm having the hardest time trusting my knee when trying new things.  I hate it!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on October 24, 2008, 06:11:54 PM
Hi Diane, two sessions left of PT sounds great for you!  How do you feel about it?? Ready to cut back?  Don't follow in Lenore's footsteps on not doing PT at home!  Haha!  If you go read her diary, she admits that I was right about the lecture to her about it.  Ha!  It's okay, I'm not so great at keeping motivated for mine either...they hurt tooooooo much!  I think the PT is why I have had so much pain in the last 1-2 weeks.  It started when I started knee PT again.  Oh week will be the beginning of a much less painful life! 

Good luck, Diane!!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 24, 2008, 07:01:24 PM
Hi Guys, I have been lurking lately and not posting on anybody's threads but have been keeping up.

Lenore - my knee feels great!!  No stability issues at all anymore and I feel very confident in it's strength.  My issue is the quad strength and that will still take awhile to come back.  No pain except when I try to extend it from a bent position and that is getting better as well.  All in all things are going very well for me right now.

Farrah - I am sending my good vibes your way, you poor thing I have been keeping up with you and hope the procedure next week goes well.  I am ready for PT to end and I think it will actually free me to go back to my workout regimen.  I find that since I am doing PT 2-3 times a week I really slack on the off days but when it's up to me I can get back to the pool/gym whatever.  It's ok to lecture me anytime if I am not doing my exercises.  It is easy to get lazy but I know it is only hurting my progress and I always feel better when I am done.  PT does cause my knee to be sore and achy.  I joke with people that the only time my knee feels bad is when I have gone to PT and they have worked on it.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Davori on October 26, 2008, 01:13:14 AM
BSG   Yay on the last few Pain and Torture sessions..... and your right... being free from PT will give you more time to do your reg routine... At this point you could probably work there.... lol You know what excercises need to be done...and now you can find fun ways of doing them... instead of having to do all the boring excercises at PT.... I am confident that you will keep working even after they release you..... and that is what will get you your other 3 degrees... and build that quad back to where it should be....... My son Tyler had to do it AGAIN over the summer... and I was surprised at his commitment to it..... and now he has to do it AGAIN... on TWO Knees!!! He is soo frustrated.... But again.. its all about the commitment. and you have the WILL to do..So I believe in you!  You go girl....
                                 Hugs  Lori
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 26, 2008, 09:08:58 PM
Thanks Lori, I have been keeping up with you and Tyler and am happy he is thru the 2nd (and hopefully LAST) surgery and the recovery is going better.  I think that now that I have been thru this is will be easier next time - notice I say next time cause I know I will end up doing something new to myself but it's all good.  The only reason most of us are here is BC we do things we enjoy and don't sit still all safe and sound.

In a moment of inspiration a few months back I ordered the Power 90X DVDs after watching the infomercial for the umptienth time.  Well, today I popped in one of the disks and was like "I'll see what I can do"  it was one with alot of floor work and push ups.  LOL LOL during some of the exercises that involved getting up and down off the floor by the time I got down and did one they were done...LOL!!

My knee felt great during it and I liked it alot.  It was and will be very tough and I really don't expect the results you see on TV but I know it will help me get back in shape and I like doing these kinds of workouts.

I figured maybe by day 90 I can at lease be getting up and down a little faster..... ;)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Davori on October 26, 2008, 09:58:27 PM
lol BSG  im just picturing you finally getting into possition to do an excercise and they have moved sorry.. i know it must be frustrating! Im not laughting at you... just with you... I would have thought by now you had better control of remote control muscles.....Perhaps thats a sign of improvement... your remote control function is slipping cause you have been out doing other things.... Thats progress.....LOL    Hugs Lori
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on October 26, 2008, 10:48:33 PM
BSG, those Power 90X infomercials are addicting.  I love watching those.  Looks like an incredible program!  Good for you getting them.  Did you buy the whole set?  Wow, keep up with that routine and you'll be pumped!  Just keep trying, you'll get there.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 26, 2008, 11:53:45 PM
I ordered the whole set one evening while watching HSN or QVC, not much of a price break but not bad for 12 hour long DVDs $120.00  I used to see a personal trainer that charged that for 2 sessions.  I like doing these types of workouts and mixing it up, I have all the Tae Bo tapes and before that the Reebok step routines.  My little kitty used to dance around with me when she was younger, the 2 young ones we have now just get in the way so I'll probably twist my other knee stepping on them - I'll have to kick them out while I am doing them.  They love to get on me when I am doing my SLRs and stretching, basically whenever I am on the floor they must figure I am on their territory.   I am doing harder intervals on the bike now and walk on the treadmill for about 15 minutes at 4mph (my long legs) and tonight we just took a 15 minute walk around the neighborhood, the 1st since Feb when I hurt my knee.  It was nice, it's going to get cold this week so I figured we'd better get a walk in.

Lori, I did break out the remote at about 50 minutes and went to the cool down I got a pretty good work out just getting up and down from the floor...LOL  In 90 days I'll be close to turning 45 (how did that happen?) and I figure by then I will be keeping up with the group.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: MartinsGirl on October 27, 2008, 12:58:17 AM
hey Diane!

I'm glad you're improving with your extension. I think the last number I read on here was 3 degrees, right? Yeah my last bit of swelling caused my extension to be stuck at about 3 or 2. Now I"m at 1 and sometimes 0 if I push it I think (since I no longer go to PT or have to see my OS, I don't actually measure it).

What is Power 90X?  Is that an American thing?? I've never seen the commercials over here in Ontario. Fill me in, people!! :-\ ;D

I'm glad you got out for a nice walk tonight. I love fall walks (and also winter walks, but not so much now that I have had a knee injury, lol. Unless I'm wearing my ice grippers :D).

i'll catch up with you soon :) xoxo
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on October 27, 2008, 01:51:11 PM
$120 sounds cheaper than I remember from when I was watching that infomercial.  Maybe some day when I'm feeling rich I'll order a set.  They'll look good on top of the pile of DVD's I already have and don't use.  I have 8 minute abs/arms, 8 minute buns/legs, Pilates, Tai Chi, Taekwondo, and yoga.  I get bored with them after a while and stop using them. 

My cat does the exact same thing as yours.  Every time I put down my exercise mat she comes running over and plops down right in the middle of it or tries to get under my legs when I'm doing SLR's.  I think they just get jealous that we're doing something else and not paying attention to them. 

4 mph on the treadmill is great Diane.  You'll be running marathons and doing everything you want before long.  Keep up the good work. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 28, 2008, 01:02:07 PM
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on November 01, 2008, 11:07:26 AM
WHAT?  I go away for a couple of days and you quit PT?  Awesome!  Go BSG, Go BSG!!!  Just don't do what I did....Get lazy and gain weight.  Keep cranking on those Power90X videos and stay in shape. 

I'm so happy to hear things are going so well for you Diane.  How's the extension now?  Are you still trying to get it or is it there?  Don't give up!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on November 01, 2008, 01:22:31 PM
Yeah, I finally have joined my April ACLr breathren in getting out of PT, it was nice to not have to go anymore although I did really like this group I was with in the end.  Now I feel like I can go out and continue to strengthen my leg, a few months ago I felt lost and was definitely not ready to be on my own.  I see the OS in Dec so I am looking forward to a good visit with him after being on my own for a month.

So far I have been doing the Power 90X and substituting the Tae-Bo for the really intense jumping DVDs in P90X.  I know you are supposed to follow the program but it is a great morale booster to just try and keep up and it's fun, also unlike other fitness DVDs this one is full of buff GUYS ;D ;D not the petite little girls you see on the others.  At 6'1" and north of 185 right now I cannot relate to those puny little 100 pounders that jump around like it's nothing and there is no chance in #@^^ that I would ever look like them.  There are a few chicks in the P90X DVDs and they are very fit and super strong but regular looking and that is nice as well.  I also like both Tony Horton and Billy Blanks and their cueing is good so I am having fun, not so much when I look in the mirror tho'.  I did not gain any weight during this but I am super flabby right now so I am working on that....just in time for the holiday eating season....

2 of the PTs thought that perhaps my extension will come when all the swelling is gone.  I still have one spot that swells like a ping-pong ball on the lower outer part to the side of my kneecap.  When I extend I don't feel any catching or anything it just feels "full" and my quad gets tense so they are hopeful like I am that it will come, I was at 2 degrees the other day so it's ok for everyday life but running may be out for awhile.

The one PT mentioned that maybe I should just forget about running, with my size and knee the bike, pool, elliptical are better options.  I have been thinking about that.......I really only run for the calorie burn - it sure is the best way to do that - but I know I can get that using other methods.  We'll see, for now I am just going to do the tapes, bike, walk, and get back in the pool.  Maybe after the new year I will re-think running, I really need to get my quad back before that anyway so......

Glad the bands worked out, we also have a Bowflex.....yeah, I'm the person that buys all that stuff - and I was using it regularly during re-hab for upper body - I really like that as well and I managed to stay in reasonable shape strength wise up to now.  I have gotten into the bands lately since I seem to have so many from all this re-hab and they are really handy.  You can do just as much anywhere without having to set up equipment.

Well, today is Sat and I LOVE Saturdays!!!!!!!  I think I will do something fun, we may go winetasting later or tomorrow.  A good opportunity to see the leaves and doesn't get any better.. :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on November 08, 2008, 02:31:27 AM
I can't believe how fast these weeks go by now, I can hardly keep up with everyone's diary now.

I did really well with working out this week, I mixed the P90X with Tae-Bo on the days P90 called for the plyometrics and karate.  The Tae Bo was fun and it is a good workout.  I am SO out of shape but having fun doing the routines.  I can get up and down from the floor much better now and my knee is feeling really good.  Still swells but I think that will continue for sometime.  I am getting back in the habit of icing and prone hang at night to try and get the last few degrees.

Nevella - the last measurement was -2 degrees so I need to keep working on it.  I have slacked off a bit on the SLRs and squats but I think the P90X is making up for some of it.  The P90X is a workout system by a trainer called Tony Horton.  He's really ripped for a 44YO and the DVD routines are a nice change up.  People get some pretty dramatic results if you kill yourself and eat right.  I don't expect to get "ripped" but I can see it will get me back in shape, there is alot of work with weights, bands, and body weight.  I can almost do a pull-up so I expect in 90 days I can do a few.

I just signed up for a 5K race next April, it's the one I broke my ankle in 2 years ago and I missed it this year due to the knee so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for next year.

I feel really good and my knee is responding well to the increased activity.  I still have a bit of trouble going up and down stairs but it's coming.  I will catch up with everyone later this weekend.  Chow babies!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on November 08, 2008, 09:47:26 AM
Hey BSG, great to see an update.  You are sounding so positive and motivated lately. Good for you!  It has been such a long road and you've really worked hard at it. 

I love that you've made the April marathon a goal.  And the fact that it's the same one you broke your ankle in will make the finish that much sweeter.

Why are you still having problems going downstairs?  I thought your flexion was back to 100%?
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on November 08, 2008, 03:43:19 PM
The stairs is a matter of quad strength, I am getting better and better tho'.  When I get up from a sitting position I use mostly my op leg and am aiming for getting up using just that quad.  I think I have learned to compensate so well that I really have to make my quad fire up and do the work.  I can feel at times that my hip flexors are doing the work.

Love your tree story, I am like you, I love Christmas but the decorating is a hassle.  We have traveled the last few years so haven't put up a tree.  This year we are home and may have the family over so I will get out the tree.  The only thing I wonder about are the cats.  When my first cat was young she would climb up the tree and knock off the balls and break them, I have a feeling that these 2 will do worse than that.  I had a small H'ween tree decorated and they managed to knock off all the balls and break them.  Oh well, they are kinda cute so I guess I'll keep them.

My flexion is good - back to about 140 which is my other leg limit and if I pushed it I could sit back on my heels but I don't.  Maybe someday, the kneeling is still odd tho', I guess its from the swelling and PTG but that's getting better as well.  I have to get up and down so much with the P90X that it really is making me more confident in my knee.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on November 08, 2008, 04:43:35 PM
Hi Diane, sorry I haven't been on your diary in a while.  I am so happy for you that you have graduated from PT!!!  It does sound like you are doing great and are happier with things.  I'm glad you made that PT switch a while ago!!!!  I wonder where you'd be if you hadn't done that?  Those workout videos sound great.  Reading about your activities made me miss them, but also I can see that I will get to some of it soon.  I miss spin classes, roller blading, of course tennis, walking the dogs, and lots of other activities.  I also saw that my fitness place has new classes....spanish dancing aerobics!  They also have hip hop aerobics!  I used to always do those classes a few years ago until my knees got worse.  So now that my pain has improved from my spinal cord stimulator, I feel like once my PO recovery stuff is over that I can get back into some of it!  I hope so! 

Anyway, I am so happy for you and your new positive attitude.  You will get those 2 degrees back once you keep working at it.  Your ROM is better than mine now!!!  I can't get full flexion hurts too much.  I don't know if I will ever get it...or ever be able to squat again.  We'll see. 

Good luck with your work outs!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on November 14, 2008, 01:42:55 AM
Hey Farrah, I have been checking in with you to see how things are going.  Hope you got some answers toady.

Things are going well, I have been doing the videos and am getting both better and faster and hopefully stronger.  My knee has been acting weird lately with lots of pains, and crunching, and catching, and swelling.  I think I am having sympathy pains for Lenore and her Jimmy Hoffa knee pad.  I gave my self today off except for my stretching and knee exercises like squats and lunges and the ever popular prone hang.  I am hoping that it's just the increased activity that is causing this new round of discomfort.

I too wonder if I will ever squat, I think I could I'm just being wimpy about it.  I just about sit back on my heels now, I was never that flexible anyway so I'm not really sweatin' it...ya know....  I find things are getting easier and easier, just walking around is good and the stairs are almost there.  Last weekend I got out the leaf blower and was walking back and forth on out hill and I was almost done when I realized I had been going forwards and backwards on the side of a hill and didn't think anything of it.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: lenorem9 on November 15, 2008, 10:29:10 PM
Bite your better not be having sympathy pains for me.  I think that's what caused my current problems.  I was having sympathy pains for Farrah and look what happened.  Sometimes I swear I'm imagining half of my problems.  Don't you start too.  LOL 

Your knee is probably bothering you because you're doing so much more.  Those Power 90X and other tapes are a tough workout even for healthy knees. 

Keep up the good work BSG.  It's great to read about you getting stronger and doing all the things you want to do again.  YAY!  The last April ACL'r to reach the finish line!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on November 24, 2008, 01:14:22 PM
It is nice to finally be caught up to the others, however, for the last week the knee has been really swollen, It clicks, grinds, crunches, snaps, is sore and just generally not good.  I don't know if the increased activity has caused this or whet.  It's swollen on the outer lower part, looks like there is a table tennis ball under the skin.  It's numb and doesn't hurt to the touch.  Icing doesn't help at all.  This is an area that has been swollen from the start.

I see the OS on 12/4, I was wondering if I should call the PT or just wait and see what the OS says.  I am up and down the stairs ok, quad still weak so that's the issue there.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on November 25, 2008, 01:15:00 AM
Hi Diane, I hope your video sessions are going well.  Hey...that doesn't sound too good does it?  Okay...your work out videos!  Anyway, sorry about your issues you have now.  You may have started things too quickly for your knee to handle it?  I don't know these things.  It wouldn't hurt to consult your PT.  If they have nothing to say, then wait until your 12/4 appt since that's only in a week or so anyway.  I am guessing you may have overdone it a little.  You have only been PT free for a few weeks and should take it slowly.  I hope nothing is wrong and it's just irritated.  Keep taking care of yourself.  I hope you get some answers! 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on December 04, 2008, 03:01:58 PM
Well, I saw the OS today.........FOR THE LAST TIME!!!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D

He said I have FULL EXTENSION  ;D and flexion, the knee is rock solid stable and to have a good life!!!

The only bad thing was when I mentioned the grinding he said that was chondomalacia and there's nothing to do about it (short of surgery) and to just not aggravate it by kneeling or doing deep squats or sitting on my heels.  I said "not a problem" so I guess I am going to have to get stronger and do push-ups the regular way rather than on my knees...LOL...I guess that's a good thing.

I have gained back 1/2' on the quad and I will just have to keep up the work on that.  He said not to worry about the stray aches and pains and that what I thought was swelling is not swelling at all but the fat pads between the patella and PT pushing up which is normal anatomy.  It looks so bad BC my quad is so small compared to the other one but he pointed out that my other knee looks much the same way.  My right knee hyperextends a bit and he said that's actually not a good thing and that was what was making me think I did not have full extension on the op leg.

So in a nod to my fellow KG's from the UK - ALL'S WELL THAT ENDS WELL  8)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Tabitha on December 05, 2008, 05:33:35 AM
Woweeeee! That's exciting! Congratulations!  ;D

Good to hear you are doing so well, it's a long road but getting to the end has got to feel good! I cannot wait to be in your shoes!! Hope your knee stays strong & you never have to deal with it again.

Are you still going to post on KG? ???

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on December 10, 2008, 12:08:42 AM
Ran a little bit this week, I have been sick so I've really fallen behind on my workouts.  Oh well, life is a marathon so I'll get back.  My last day of work was last Friday, I work as a Contractor so it's not unusual for me to have time off between assignments, I'm thinking that things will pick up after the 1st of the year and I'm actually grateful for some time off during the holidays.  I'm getting back to cooking and going to go to the pool next week so it's all good.

Knee is good, a little swollen but I have been going up and down the stairs much better lately, even beat the cat the other night.  LOL, he is so used to me going that I surprised him and he was standing at the bottom looking up at me as if to say "what up wit dat!!"
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on December 14, 2008, 02:56:20 PM
Well, I feel like I hit another milestone yesterday.  It was raining and I ran, yes ran, out to the car and when I got in I did that little pivot hop you do when getting in a car.  For a moment I was like "oh no, I can't do that" and then I sat there for a moment and thought "wow, I just did a big pivot move and my knee is fine"  Sure feels good to hit those little marks.  I always knew I would get there it just took me longer than the others.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on December 18, 2008, 08:25:53 AM
Hi Diane, sorry I have been MIA from KG...just computer issues.  I am glad to see you are done with OS visits as of Dec 4th!  That's great!  Good job in running in the rain too.  I hope I can run in an emergency like that if I had to!  I know I can't right now, but hopefully soon.  It's a huge mystery as to what activities I will be able to do once I am fully recovered from my SCS revision surgery.  I guess I will find out in February when I start PT again. 

Well congrats on your knee finally getting to where you wanted it!!!  Does that mean you are leaving us like the other ACL people???  I hope not!  Well take care!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on December 24, 2008, 01:35:14 PM
Hey Farrah, I've been checking you out and see things are not going so well in the pain department, I sure hope they get that all sorted out for you, maybe Santa can help them......

My "running" is pretty lame...literally...but I'm doing it.  I'm planning on getting back in the pool and the gym, I have been incredibly lazy lately, when I was sick a few weeks ago I could hardly muster the energy to get up the stairs and now I think it's just laziness as I feel fine I'm just not motivated.  You'd think that living life fully and healthy would be enough motivation but it's not, I feel a little depressed lately but I think it's just boredom setting in and I need to snap out of this and get on a schedule.  I have now gained 10 lbs and my body fat must be off the scale, I was down to 190 (I'm 6'1" and let's just say not petite - 180 is a good weight for me) and 20% body fat last year so I'm a bit bummed about that.  It seems all I want to eat is pizza and brownies and beer - I was checking out that beer thingie you got hubby.  When I was working out all I wanted was chicken and salad and nuts and other healthy things.  I guess I should find the Weight Guru website......

The knee is good, it's still a little swollen but the OS didn't seem to think anything of it so I guess it's ok.  I know this extra weight is not helping so my Christmas wish is to get back on track and live a healthier lifestyle.

We are going to MIL tonight for the chaos that is a family holiday dinner (I'm still recovering from T'Giving), pretty unpleasant most of the time but it's family so you just have to sit back and laugh at them sometimes.  I hope everyone's holidays are good and you get what you desire from Santa.

Merry Christmas to All!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on December 29, 2008, 01:08:33 AM
Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Champs!!

Woo Hoo!!!

I got to see the game and was actually jumping up and down before I even realized what I was doing!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on January 05, 2009, 01:43:41 PM
OK, so the Dolphins didn't do so well yesterday, at least we got to the playoffs and for that I'm grateful.

Went for an overnight visit this weekend to a resort not far from us.  They had little cabins that were very nice and we did LOTS of wine tasting and eating.  Ugh, I am back on the P90X - beginning 2nd week - as I got sidetracked before the holidays and got sick and all.  The program is very good and tough.  I am finding I can get up and down off the floor faster and I bought a knee pad for my right knee to help get up and down.  I love the yoga routine and have been thinking about getting back into Tai Chi at some point!!  I can feel I am getting stronger and my hubby and I have challenged each other to loose 8lbs this month.  That will be tough but if I loose just a few that will be good.

I have been walking on the treadmill more lately and did a bit of slow running.  Funny thing I had some pain in the MCL area but that has since subsided so it's probably nothing.  Still have a swelling below the kneecap and have been icing more, my quad is looking alot better and feeling stronger.  I was thinking the other day that I am at about 11 months since the sure flies when you're....well, you know.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on January 05, 2009, 04:06:38 PM
Sorry about your football team!  The Atlanta Falcons didn't do so well in their play off game either!  Oh least we had a good season with their new coach! 

Sounds like you are doing well with your knee!  I am sure the swelling will begin to improve over time.  I hit one year since my knee surgery....January 8!!!  I can't believe it has already been exactly a year!  It scares me!  That means I have had RSD for 12 months already!  YUCK.  Oh well...what can I do except continue trying to get better. 

I hope you can start your Tai Chi and other sports you you like soon!  I hope I can play tennis another day in my life!  Well I hope you have a good week!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on January 06, 2009, 01:46:33 AM

It is great to hear your progress, great work!

Just wanted to let you know that when I started running I got pain in the medial side of my knee.  I remember the first time I lasted only 1.5 minute and then had to stop.  I kept going back to the treadmill every few days and each time I was able to run longer.  The pain eventually went away after a few weeks.

'fins did very well this year considering their record last year.  If Parcells sticks around they will be great next year.

Good luck
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on January 09, 2009, 03:48:27 PM
Hey Bruce, thanks for stopping in.  How's your shoulder, are you hanging out over on Shoulder Guru....just kidding.

Yeah, that pain is more annoying than anything, I just get to the point where I'm feeling good and then it sets in and I slow to a walk.  Sounds like if I work thru it tho' it should resolve itself.

My knee feels more stable than ever, still working on the quad but that's really coming back nice.  I am up the stairs normally, down still a little ploppy but getting there.  My one year injury anniversary is coming up and I am determined to be doing the stairs and running smoothly and longer by then.  I'm tired of this knee issue and just want to move on.

Thanks for the shout out for the 'Fins, they did well and considering what we went thru last season I'm happy with the results.  Now, last night was even better as the Gators beat OK (sorry Sooner fans - I do like Sam Bradford tho').  Good game but I think the Texas/Ohio State one was a more exciting ending all in all, my Buckeye friends are still upset.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on January 09, 2009, 03:55:34 PM
Hello!  So glad your knee is slowly improving!  That's great news!  I hope it continues that way! I am a huge UGA bulldog fan, but I was rooting for the Gators last night.  So congrats to them for their national victory!  Long game!!!  Well...late night!  I hate games that start so late, but at least I don't have a job to go to the next morning like my husband does.  Haha! 

Your knee issues will resolve over some time.  You have come a long way just in the last few months!  So I know eventually you will be able to do stairs with no problems.  I can't do them at all still!  Yesterday was one year since my knee surgery that caused all my RSD and current issues.  :(  I can't believe I made it to one year with so much pain still.  Drives me nuts!  At least you are seeing some progress whether it's slow or not! 

Keep working hard on that strength.  I start PT on Monday :(

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on January 09, 2009, 11:43:41 PM
BSG - Great job on the knee.  I was reading your post and saw you were a Dolphins fan!  I'm a HUGE Miami fan.  I'm so proud of the team (although they didn't do well in the playoffs).

So glad you are doing well.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on January 10, 2009, 03:35:34 AM
BNL, so good to hear from you!!  How is your knee holding up?  Great, I'll bet, you had such a quick, good recovery I was jealous of all the April ACLr's but it looks like I have finally caught up to you guys.  I think about you and T and Bruce and Mrs. B and hoped that all was well.

Have you gone back to riding your bike?  If so, you know what I'm going to say, be careful.  I don't want to see you dust off your diary for ACLr #3.  :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on January 11, 2009, 12:07:27 AM
BSG- My knee is doing okay.  Nothing major going on.  I'm working at an outdoor ice skating rink right now, so I've ice skated and my knees seem to be doing okay.

I haven't been back on a bike yet.  I am dying to go out and ride again, but since I don't have my own bike I have to rely on friends.  For some reason my friends are scared to take me.  I'm curious as to why  :)  Maybe because the last 2 times I have been have turned into 2 AClr's.  I'm sure I'll talk them into it soon
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on January 19, 2009, 08:47:06 PM
I have been working out alot more - Week 4 of P90X and added 45 minutes of jogging intervals 3 times a week on treadmill.  Wow, does that tire my legs out!!  I have been going very slow and we have a impact absorbing (read: old people's) treadmill but I still wonder if it is hurting the knee as my quads are still weak.  I saw Feeny's new thread over on the Cruciate ligaments board and it made me go hmmmmm.....  I have no pain or discomfort whatsoever so I figured as long as I am good that's ok, after all I'm 9 months now and I should be back to normal.

It feels good to be tired out actually, I am hoping to be ready for an 8k in March.  2 years ago I broke my ankle running in the race (finished tho') and last year this whole knee thing so I'm hoping I can run it in 2009!!  ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on January 26, 2009, 03:36:35 PM
Just wanted to say that I took some measurements this weekend and am happy to report that I have put 1 1/2" on my left quad and it is now only 1/2" smaller than the right one.  I can feel it getting stronger and stronger, the running has definitely helped in the strength area.  My legs are so fatigued after a run but it feels good.

The P90X is going well and I am into the 2nd phase, I have not lost much weight (actually put on 2 lbs  >:( ) but I have lost a few inches and feel alot stronger, I think it is also helping my leg strength as well.

Wed is my B-day - hitting the milestone 45 and am planning on doing some fun stuff, every year I run my age (I know sounds silly but it's fun) this year I will do 45 minutes on the treadmill (been doing 30-40) so that will be a nice workout.  Hard to believe I'm coming up on one year since the accident.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on February 09, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
Well, today marks one year since the day I injured my knee (or rather some @$$ hole ran into me on the ski slope).  I would say time has flown but it really hasn't and quite frankly this past year was not all that fun dealing with the injury and the aftermath.  On the other hand, I have learned quite alot about myself and others and that one needs to enjoy what they have even when the bad times come.

The knee itself??  Rock solid!!  Still swollen a bit and I have a feeling that it will just be that way, it doesn't hurt or restrict any movement so that's good.   The quad is still smaller than the right and I am still working on that.  I go up and down the stairs almost normal and am back jogging and walking hills and such.  I aim to get back in the pool soon.

I am grateful to all on KG that helped me thru all this and provided support and advice and a kick in the ass when necessary... ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on February 17, 2009, 01:36:54 PM
Went to the OS yesterday, this swelling has been annoying and I wanted him to take a look.  Both him and the nurse didn't think that swelling was all that bad....I suppose they have seen SWELLING and just said to continue on with the exercises to build up my quad.

I have been biking alot and trying to remember to ice more.  The knee feels great and when he did all the tests I came thru with flying colors!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on February 17, 2009, 05:15:21 PM
Hey Girl!  Sorry I haven't posted here in forever!  Sorry your swelling isn't too good and your OS isn't worried.  Swelling is usually a sign of a problem, isn't it??  Does it hurt also?  I hope to get back into activities by the end of this year hopefully!  My PS told me yesterday that it will eventually happen.  I can't wait to lose some weight I have recently gained also.  I wonder if it's from some of the meds I am on...9 things!  Anyway, the spring is quickly approaching and you can finally try more outdoor activities!!!!  I hope you are doing okay besides the swelling!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on February 24, 2009, 04:50:11 PM
Hey Farrah, I have been following your thread I just don't post much anymore.

The OS just seemed to think I should continue to work on it, I am running, jumping, cutting, etc all good with no pain.  It just swells and I guess it's just that way, ice doesn't seem to help but I keep icing anyway.  It's so easy to fall out of the habit and it's been so cold up here that the thought of icing makes me shudder....

I can't wait for spring, I am sick of the cold and we haven't really had any snow either so that's been a bit of a bummer as well.

I am hoping to run in a 5k in April, I ran/walked the other day for 45 minutes and felt great, not fast but hey not slow either.... ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on February 25, 2009, 01:38:56 AM
Glad you are doing so well!!  It's great to hear of your improvements besides your swelling!  I hope you make your goal of running a 5k in april!  I wish I could do that.  My big race is July 4th and is a 10k.  I signed up for it last year thinking I'd be ready, but had to sell my spot.  I wish I could do it this year, but I know it's not possible...even walking that far isn't going to be possible yet.  I hope to do it next year though!  I have given up on many of my athletic goals for this year, but hope to next year. 

Well I have been sitting at the computer for too long and now am in pain.  So I am going to get off.  Thanks for always keeping up with my diary and posting when you can! 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on February 25, 2009, 12:47:00 PM
A 10k wow!!  It is disappointing when you set goals and they pass, I did that alot last year.  I went and got the t-shirts anyway  ::) I figured I paid for 'em so......

What do you think about volunteering at the race?  It seems like such fun and I have thought of doing that for the 8k in March that I will not be ready for.  I was just too down and lazy to do so last year but in hindsight I think that would have really helped my attitude.

I am so sorry that things are not going well for you lately, I am so disappointed for you but you have a great attitude, remember that old Japanese saying - Nana Korobi Ya Oki - "if you're knocked down 7 times get up 8", I think of you like that little rubber tree ant,  (I hope that doesn't make you angry comparing you to an ant but your perseverance is great and you will overcome this.)

"High Hopes"

But he's got high hopes, he's got high hopes
He's got high apple pie, in the sky hopes

So any time your gettin low
stead of lettin go
Just remember that ant
Oops there goes another rubber tree plant

 :D  ;)  ;D

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on February 25, 2009, 06:04:18 PM
You are so sweet!  I never get offended when someone is trying to keep me up :)  I actually rarely get offended by anything....unless Lenore or Nevella calls me a cheerleader!  Haha!  I can be an ant. 

I am just happy that you are able to set goals now and actually attain them!  Volunteering for the races are a good idea, but I'd rather volunteer for the breast cancer walks and such since those actually are for a really good cause.  I wish I could walk in the RSDSA walk in June or July!  Unfortunately, it's in Manhattan and I can't afford to travel there.  Oh well.  Other good causes can use me here.  I love volunteering for good causes! 

Well I am off to make some jewelry now!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on February 25, 2009, 08:25:53 PM
You are right, those are all good causes and I should look into helping at some of them here in the DC area.

Cheerleader!?!?  Well, you are a gymnast but that's nothing like a cheerleader.......not that there's anything wrong with being a cheerleader..... ;D

LOL, when we lived in the south I used hear "bless your heart" so much.  Someone finally filled me in that they are being always seemed to go over my head and later I was Like..."hey, I think she was insulting me".....I usually don't let people bother me as well.  Too bad we've become so sensitive, it used to be the ol' sticks and stones will break my bones but now it seems every little thing you say to someone is offensive to them.

Oh well, I just try to be myself and if people don't like it.....well, you know....

I was just over on your thread and see you posted your website so I will be visiting soon.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on April 13, 2009, 12:57:09 PM
;D ;D   ONE YEAR UPDATE!!!!   ;D ;D

Well, here we are, can't believe a year has gone by, it's going too fast and I really dislike one like this one where I spent time wishing it away.  Anyway, I have to say that things couldn't be better.  The knee is holding up well and I am back to running and lifting and just eveything I enjoyed pre-injury.  We did not ski this year and my quad was not strong enough anyway so that will wait until next year.  I tended to take it slowly in my rehab and while that took longer I feel fully recovered and ready to go.  I have gained back over 1" of the 2" I lost on the quad and I know with time that will come back as well.  I have completed a few rounds of P90X and while I am not ready for a commercial yet :D I am stronger (gained 1" on my biceps) and more flexible than ever.  I bike, walk, run, garden, shop, and work without even thinking of my knee now.  Most of the time I end up doing something and smile thinking that "wow, I couldn't even do that and here I don't even think of it now."

I wanted to thank everyone here at KG's for the love, support, and advice I've gotten this year.  This site is so wonderful and helped me so much both pre and post op.  I hang out over on the Cruciate boards now trying to offer support, advice, and encouragement to all the new KGs, I so remember the days when I was afraid of the injury, afraid of the operation, and afraid of the rehab.  There was a time when I couldn't start a sentence without using "I am afraid..." but it all turned out fine and I am on my way to a long athletic life.

My advice to all who read this is to stay positive and set yourself up realistically.  There will be good days and there will be bad days and you need to take both in stride.  Straight ACL's with allograft take a minimum of 7 - 9 months until you are back, throw in other injuries and you are looking at a longer period.  Don't rush it, do your rehab, and look to the future - after all the reason we are here is because we were doing something we love and are working to get back to that again.

I am looking forward to my 2 year update!!    8)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: tsznut on April 13, 2009, 03:04:41 PM

Way to go!!!!  It is so encouraging to hear everything has worked out for you.  I had my first surgery last May and spent 11 months limping around in pain with a weak/atrophied quad muscle.  I wasn't able to do the summer activities that I enjoyed, biking, hiking, gardening or skiing this past winter. 

Had surgery #2, by a different OS 2 weeks ago, and I am hoping I will be able to make a wonderful post like yours in a year.  I feel that this guy was able to identify the real problem and I will get back to my normal life again.

I tend to want recovery to go much faster, but I have learned from this  site to take it slow and realize that there will be bad days along with the good.  I'm a surgical nurse, so I tend to think I will be able to move along faster than other people but need to realize that recovery for all follows the same steps and not to push it.  So, I'll take one day at a time, work hard at rehab, and look forward to a active future doing all the things I love.

Thanks a million for the words of wisdom and encouragement.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on April 13, 2009, 10:51:35 PM
Thanks T, sorry to hear of your situation.  I am glad you found the right OS and hope you get some good PTs to help you along in your recovery.  It's so important to have the right attitude and you sound like you do.  It takes alot of patience to work thru these knee issues and as a nurse you get to see the repair but not always the rehab.  I am positive you will do well, heck you have already been dealing with it for a year now so this will be your year.  I will look for your diary and am looking forward to following your recovery.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on April 14, 2009, 06:08:08 AM
Way to go BSG!  Funny because I finally just finished reading through your post-op diary this weekend.  Found it extremely helpful as far as what to expect on the road ahead.  It's so nice to hear a wonderful ending to your story and that you've returned to all that you love doing pre-injury.  Your posts on switching therapists and your experience with going up/down stairs were particularily helpful.  I had to switch therapists this past summer too for similar reasons, and I had a lot of trouble dealing with stairs pre-aclr and it'll be nice to get that tackled to move on to bigger and better activities that I love too.  Thanks for all your advice on the cruciate board too!  What a great ending/beginning for your knee.   :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: bnl10yr on April 15, 2009, 07:51:46 PM
Wow BSG....1 year!  Congrats on the awesome news

My knee's seem to be doing well.  I still sound like Rice Krispies (snap, crackle, pop) when I walk after sitting at my desk for a long period of time but it doesn't hurt.  As long as the knees don't hurt and don't swell up I think I'm good :-)  2009 might be the first year since 2005 that I haven't had surgery....woo-hoo!!!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on April 15, 2009, 08:14:22 PM
Thanks BNL, I have been thinking about you and the other April ACLr's.  It's so hard to believe that it's been a year now.  You did so well with your rehab and had to do it twice!!  I love the snap, crackle, pop description - that is my right knee and it bothers me at times but I mostly try and ignore it.  My ankle snaps as well so I can't sneak up on anyone anymore... ;D

Are you back to biking?  If so, be careful I don't want to see you rev up (get it, rev.....heheheheh) your diary for anything but an update that's all good.  I am finding I have a bit of stiffness first thing in the morning but think it's due to this extra weight and my poor fitness level lately.  I have been lifting weights but need to up the cardio and revamp the diet to lose some of this goo.

Let us know how you are doing!!  I'll look for a post on your diary!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on April 15, 2009, 09:35:06 PM
I just read your 1-yr diary post!  Congrats on getting so far.  I will not forget your struggles!  I know it happens to the best of us.  Your diary is definitely useful for people going through the same surgeries or similar as you!  Your full recovery took exactly a year, right?  I will not forget when you wanted to give up at times!  You kept going and now you are doing more than anyone else on KG (well most of us).  Haha!  It's good to see a post op diary finish with good things! 

I have decided to write a book on my experiences.  It has been recommended to me many times, and I think it may be a good idea.  I will not start the book until there is an end to the story...hopefully this year :) 

Well just wanted to say congrats!  Keep helping other KGs with your positive support! 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on April 15, 2009, 11:11:39 PM
Thanks Farrah, you were there throughout along with the April ACLr's Lenore, Nevella, Candace, and many others to always offer an encouraging word.

I follow your thread but don't always post and I think of you often.  I could never be as strong as you have been/are being with your struggles.  I don't post mostly 'cause I just don't know what to say.  I am so sorry for all the issues and admire your strength and tenacity!!  You don't give up!!  I like how you get out and volunteer at the shelter and make jewelry and look for interviews and just generally don't let your knee get in the way.

We are going wine-ing this weekend.  We leave for CA tomorrow to go to Santa Barbara Wine Country.  It's one of our favorite places to vacation - and where the movie "Sideways" is based upon.  DH is such a wino, he has taken sommelier classes and everything, me.....I just drink Zinfindels with good cheese and salami and bread for snacking and let him espouse on the "fruits" of the day.  And it drives him crazy that I like Merlot...... 8)

With everything you are dealing with thanks for thinking of me!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on April 16, 2009, 01:19:46 PM
Have a great mini-vacation!!!  Drink a few glasses for me b/c I know it's a luxury, but I hate it :)  I just don't like the taste of any wine and I have tried many of them.  I can't drink right now anyway.  Oh well.  For once in 15 months I actually was craving a nice big strawberry daquiri!  B/c of my morphine and all the other meds, I couldn't.  I should make myself a non-alcoholic one sometime. 

Well so glad you are doing well.  Keep doing all that you can!  One day I will be there with you!  :) 

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 22, 2009, 06:03:03 PM
Well, today the weather was GLORIOUS!!!!  So I went to Home Depot and gots lots of plants and flowers and such and spent the morning gardening.  Wow, what a difference a year makes, I was able to walk up and down the hill without issue and carry the bags of soil and mulch and squat and even kneel a bit without any problems.

I still have swelling and numbness and I was thinking of seeing the OS for that.  Icing doesn't seem to have any effect on the swelling and BTW - I can actually see my VMO now.........hoo-ray!!!!   ;D :D ;D :D

So, I have been going to the pool more now and I go back to work FT in June.  I have been off since Dec so lots of time to sit around and gain weight.  You'd think with all this time off I'd get in shape but nooooooo.....oh well, looking forward to getting back in the workforce.

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on May 23, 2009, 01:50:19 AM
Sorry you still have the swelling and numbness!  That's great though that you can see your VMO!!  I was looking at some of my pics before knee surgery and my muscles were huge!  Now I am a big pile of mush!  I have also gained weight and embarassed to see old friends.  That's great that you get to go back to work FT soon!!  It's tough working while in pain or going through recovery.  Good job on your yard work!  You have really come a long way just in the last few months besides a few nagging problems.  I bet you are thrilled! 

Sorry such a short post....getting sleepy from a new med i started just a few mins ago.  Have a good holiday weekend!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on May 23, 2009, 03:15:59 PM
Glad to hear it's going great BSG.  It's nice to see you can do things without problems.  Sorry to hear about the swelling/numbness though.  Congrats on the VMO!  Can't wait to hit that milestone.  Good luck returning to work in June.  In the meantime, enjoy your weekend! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 07, 2009, 01:55:49 AM
Went to see the OS last week, what an @$$-hole!!  I never much liked him and it was one of his partners that did the surgery I just followed up with him when the other guy moved.

Anyway, I am seeing a trainer and he wanted to know what I should not do and get a medical clearance.  I wanted to ask the OS about the swelling anyway so I figured I'd go see him.  When I mentioned the trainer request the OS said "maybe I should just send him your file for him to review"    :o  - now I know this guy to be a jerk so I was like "really?!"....    ::) .....  he looked at me like no, not really and it went downhill from there.

He looked at my knee and tested the grafts.  Said the MCL was still lax and that will probably not heal.... ??? .....ever...... :-\ and said I had pattellar tendonitis but didn't say what to do about it and then said no running ever..... :(  I also asked him if I should use a brace when skiing or such and he said I should but then just left it at that.  I guess I could have pushed for answers but at this point I just wanted to leave BC I figured he is just wasting my time and I need to go see another OS.

So, after I waited for him to write a disertation on what's wrong with my knee to the trainer (not what the trainer asked for) I went to see the PT, she took a look at the note....looked at me and said no leg extensions, running, pounding, squats past 90 degrees, and keep my knee over my toes when doing lunges.  Ya'd think the OS could've just said that..... :P

So, I was pretty upset at the never run again thing but after thinking about it for a few days I'm ok with it.  There are plenty of other things to do that will keep me in shape and I really like the pool and deep water running.

I start my new job Monday and the trainer I've been seeing is really good and wants to get my legs stronger and I need to drop the weight I have gained this year anyway so it's all good and I'll just get a copy of my records and see someone else.  In the meantime I'm off to read about patellar tendonitis.

Hope everyone's weekend is good!!   8)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on June 08, 2009, 04:56:02 PM
Sorry again to hear about the crappy news.  Hope you get it all sorted with a new OS.  In the meantime, good luck being back at work and with the trainer.  At least it sounds like the trainer knows what's going on!  Hopefully, you'll beat the tendonitis and hit the ground running soon (or at least have some relief from any pain, swelling, or numbness issues)!  Take care. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: mollyc on June 09, 2009, 09:08:23 PM
BSG: I'm also sorry about your news.  I don't think that patellar tendonitis is that uncommon and I also think it's treatable. My boss had knee replacement last summer and he now has patellar tendonitis.  It's basically an overuse injury that he got during his rehab.  He has to be careful not to overdo it and rest a few days when it does flare. My sister also has a touch of it...she fell off a mountain bike, landed with her knee on a rock, and got a really severe impact injury (although no ligament damage, thankfully).  She overdid her rehab...kept going when everything was swollen and sore, and now has patellar tendonitis.  Her PT and OS are not too worried about it, although it's slowed down her recovery.  She's really bummed because she is a crazy cyclist and one of the things she can't do right now is cycle.  But, no one seems to think it's a long term thing...just that she needs to take things much slower and be careful not to flare it up. High doses of ibuprofen are also in order.

Definitely get a new OS if your current one is a jerk. I think my OS is a bit of a dick.  He really likes to be right and likes to show off how much he knows. Likes to blame his underlings for things.  That type. I decided pre-surgery that I could live with him as long as he was a good surgeon (which I'm told he is and have no reason to doubt) and what was much more important was a good working relationship with my PT, since I need to work much more closely with the PT. I'm just hoping that I can continue to stomach my distaste for OS' personality through a year of follow-up visits.  I think I can, but if he does anything that feels counterproductive to my recovery, I'm out of there. 

Good luck with your new job! Molly
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 25, 2009, 01:38:17 AM
I thought I'd update, I had posted and nice long story about the knee and all but then the Board crashed, oh well.

Anyway, the new job is going very well, kind of like riding a bike and I have been doing lots of little things to help them until they work me into the schedule.  you know the new guy always gets the work no one else wants to do.

I have been seeing a trainer now for almost a month.  I am feeling stronger and the leg is getting stronger and I really feel like at some point I may be able to run again.  There is still lots of cracking popping and an occasional scream from the knee - mostly in the MCL area.  It seems to me I should have been in a brace for a longer time than I was......and that may have helped heal it tighter but you never know.

Hi Molly, as far as the tendonitis maybe it's just something to work through.  My knee is feeling much better and not so tight although I do get a bit of an electric shock feeling when I press on the distal side of the incision.  Maybe with time that will go away but all in all I feel pretty good these last few weeks.  Thanks for stopping by!!   :D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on June 26, 2009, 01:55:50 AM
Thanks for the update.  Glad to hear work is going well.  Even better is hearing about the trainer.  That's great the leg feels stronger and you feel you might be able to run again.  Good thing you were able to get the medical clearance from the "jerk" for the trainer.  Have you looked into seeing another OS?  Maybe you won't need to if the leg continues to improve.  My OS cleared me to begin jogging, jumping, etc., but my PT and I both agree I'm not ready yet!  I think it'll be awhile, and I'd like to be a little more fit overall with this weight gain.  God knows I don't need any extra baggage to stress the knee just yet.  Well, hope it continues to go well and keep us posted!  Good luck and enjoy your weekend. 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 12, 2009, 02:20:28 AM
Hello all.  I just wanted to post a funny thing here, this am I was making waffles and went to turn and get something by the sink.  My upper body turned but my lower body lagged a bit and when my left leg turned the loudest "crack" I had ever heard eminated from my knee.  For a moment I was like  :o ......  Well, all is fine just a little scary even after all this time.  I had no pain, swelling, nothing and the knee/leg worked just fine today.

I found it funny tho' that after all this time I was still so hypersensitive about the knee.....wonder if that will ever go away....
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on July 14, 2009, 03:57:49 PM
I'd be freaking out with a crack like that!  Glad to hear that it turned out to be nothing.  I wait for the day that I won't think about my knee so much (and so does my husband, lol).  Anyway, how is the personal training coming along?  Have you started back up with running yet, and if so are there still pain issues?  Well, hope it's going well and that you had a good return to work. Take care and keep enjoying this beautiful summer we're having! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 15, 2009, 01:49:55 AM
16 month update

Hello All:  everything is going very well.  We were in Montana the last 2 weeks fishing and golfing and I have to say I really didn't even think about my knee that much.  On the golf course I was able to swing normally and rotate without problem - pretended I was Tiger for a moment.... ;D  And on the was glorious, we waded and fished and I caught a bigger fish than hubby....he was happy for me tho' 'cause by noon I usually have my book out and reading in the raft while he fishes.

I went to the gym several times and worked out on the leg press, I am almost up to my pre-injury weight and I can actually see my quads now.  I measured about 3 weeks ago and had gained back 2 of the 2.5 inches I lost on my op leg.  It feels strong and stable and really good right now.

I still get that crack every now and again and wonder what's up with that but for the most part I really don't even think about the knee most days.  Some days it's a little stiff and I think if I shed this extra 20lbs I gained the last year I would be doing even better but I'm working on that.  Lost 8lbs in July but then the steaks and beer in Montana put it right back on again.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on August 15, 2009, 02:37:47 PM
Great news BSG!  Sounds like you had a wonderful trip.  Have to make it out there myself one day (oh those incredible night skies).  Had a good laugh at the steaks and beer (I fought hard not to gain an ounce on my trip with all that French bread, hehe).  Glad to hear about the strength and size coming back too - it gives me hope when looking at my quads right now!  Hope it continues to go well for you and that you have many more knee-thought-free days!       
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: mollyc on August 16, 2009, 01:50:40 AM
BSG: Sounds like you're over the hump! Great news that strength is coming back...and, great news about the fish. Hope you got some good pictures! Molly
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 07, 2009, 07:56:47 PM
Hi Guys, I have been lurking over on the cruciate board and keeping up with everyone just don't post much anymore.  The trip to Montana is always so beautiful and we want to move out there when hubby retires.....hopefully sooner rather than later.

I have been doing more and more lately, been trail hiking and the knee feels great!!  I use some poles just for upper body work and I figure while I look like a dork looking for the snow it is giving me a good whole body workout.  Today I came back after our walk and got on the treadmill and actually ran a bit and it was fun....I think I may be turning the corner as far as exercise goes.  Before the ACL tear I ran daily and worked out ith a trainer and such but since about last summer all I have been doing is eating and being lazy.  The way I feel today makes me want to get back to really working out and shedding some of this weight I've gained.

Well, I'm off to the other boards to catch up with everyone, all of you are doing so well and it's fun to watch everyone recover.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: mollyc on September 07, 2009, 10:20:38 PM
BSG: Great news! And, great inspiration. I'm actually off in about 20 minutes for my first post-ACLr hike.  Per PT's orders, it is to be short and intense. We'll see how the knee does with it.

Glad that things are going in the right direction for you and that you're over the hump that was keeping you from feeling like you could do the things you wanted to do. MOlly
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on September 08, 2009, 11:08:38 PM
Hey Big, all sounds well!  I hear you on moving West!  My hubby and I are working on it too, but will be a little while longer (shooting for summer at the latest, but we'll see).  What great news regarding running again - sounds like the knee is holding up a little better now.  I just started jumps myself again yesterday after a little trip overseas, getting ready to try jogging in a couple of weeks after my next post-op visit.  The hiking sounds great, and the poles even better!  I sure have to get moving on some upper body work myself!  Take care and keep trekking!!! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: dancer49 on September 15, 2009, 05:11:50 PM
Heya- glad to hear you are doing so well and running!!!
OMG! Did you EVER think we'd get here?
I'm just about ready to run again- def doing more each day.
So glad Montana works for you- I hear it's beautiful.
Wishing you continued wellness!!
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 11, 2009, 04:55:09 AM
Well, I stepped it up this week and ran/walked more.  About 5 minutes in I had a bit of pain in the MCL area so I slowed to a walk, tried a light jog - really a slow shuffle - and then walk and that went great.  I did 30 minutes total and felt good the rest of the day.  I think the only thing I should have done was ice my knee after working out.

On the off days I have been working on strength training and I am trying to get my diet under control.  It will come it just takes time and effort and I have not been doing any of that for the last year now.

Today we walked around a wine festival for several hours and one of the guys gave out before I did - he has plantar fascia issues - and that makes me happy to only have mcl issues.  I guess we all have issues don't we?

I am so glad everyone is doing so well, I read the newbies posts and feel for them BC we were all there just a short time ago.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: dancer49 on October 11, 2009, 01:33:35 PM
BSG- Good to hear you are still doing well!
I agree- we need to let newbies know that
this type of sitch isn't the end of the world, that
there can be good recoveries, outcomes if we are
diligent and maintain a good attitude!!
BEST to YOU!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 29, 2009, 11:01:06 PM
Well, things are going well.  I have been doing lots of walking and a bit of jogging on the treadmill.  The leg is feeling stronger and I can feel the difference in the knee now that the leg is getting stronger.

Walked in another 5k this month and it was so much fun.  I have signed up for a 4 mile walk on New Year's Eve so I am really looking forward to that.

Last week I helped out at an event and was on my feet from about 3pm to 11pm.  Wow were my feet and legs sore and my knee was achy.  Not pain or anything just tired as well.  The floor was concrete and it was really the first time I have taxed it like that.  Oh yeah, I also walked 2 miles that morning.

I walked back and forth to a client this afternoon over uneven brick sidewalks and had to smile when I thought that just a short time ago I was wary or even unable to walk such long distances and on uneven surfaces.  Life goes on and my knee is getting better.

I'm off to visit everyone's diary - don't post much anymore but I do come on a read updates and the other threads/diaries often so keep on posting!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: dancer49 on October 30, 2009, 01:36:09 PM
Glad to hear things are still going well and moving forward.
I'm like you, progressing, still have some 'residual' stiffness
or pulling or tugging if I bend too far- and like you- am amazed
with how I can negotiate uneven terrain again! MINUS the fear
factor! LOL!!! Keep up the good work and keep posting! Cheers!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on December 08, 2009, 03:12:06 AM
Saw a new OS today.  He took x-rays and looked at my pathetic quad and listened to my complaints/observations and I came away with this.

The ACL is rock-solid, he just about yanked me off the table when he was testing it, the MCL - not so much - it's a bit loose but nothing major, I think some strengthening may help with this.  I asked him about a brace and he said as a matter of practice he prescribes all his patients an ACL brace but would not give me one now BC he wants me to work on increasing the muscle mass in my leg, if he gave me one now it would just be too small when I get the leg built back up.

I mentioned the swelling and the trouble kneeling, he said what I think is swelling is most likely some scar tissue and there's not much to do about it, the kneeling tho' was interesting - he thinks the tibial screw is placed high and that is causing the discomfort when kneeling, of course can't do anything about that except go back in and I'm not going that route for now.

I demonstrated the cracking, crunching and all sorts of other noises that come from my knee on bending/flexing and he said he has some thoughts on that but wants to wait until I get stronger, it's most likely bone fragments or something.

So, I am glad I went to see this guy, I really liked him and I was afraid he was going to poo-poo me so I almost didn't go but I left with the following:

1 - either get to a trainer and build up the leg or go back to PT - I start with the trainer on Wed
2 - work on extension - yes I am back to having extension parties again, he thought the leg was at about 4 degrees - kinda bummed about that
3 - see him again in 6 weeks for a reassessment and brace fitting, by then he thinks I will be strong enough to begin running again
4 - consider some sort of plasma/platelet injection?  I'll have to research this one but he said they take your own blood and spin it down to get the platelets and then inject it back into the joint and it's supposed to help, NFL players do this......

So, I need to get on the stick, I know if I go back to see him in Jan and nothing has changed he will poo-poo me so at least it's a goal, also an eraly resolution - maybe 2010 will be a better year.....
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: dancer49 on December 08, 2009, 12:40:49 PM
BSG- thanks for the update! Glad he did not pooh -pooh you on it all.
Good luck on your strength training again- work on your extension!!!
Whip it into shape lady!!  8) :P 8)
Keep us updated on your progress.
Take care!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: mollyc on December 08, 2009, 04:33:47 PM
BSG: Glad that you found someone you trust and got some solid info about what's going on with your knee. I'm curious, did you have a sense that extension might be a problem? Or was that a surprise? In any case, I'm glad that you have a plan. Good luck with the new trainer! Molly
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Bruce23 on December 10, 2009, 08:33:12 PM
Hey BSG,

Glad to hear things are OK.  Research platelet rich plasma, which is what the doc is talking about.  I looked at it last year but couldn't find a practitioner around here.  It seems very interesting and promising.  I wanted it for my shoulder and elbow joints.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on December 11, 2009, 12:03:14 AM
Hi Bruce, glad to hear from you.  This OS is not with COR, I'll PM you the name.  I liked him alot and when the injury 1st occurred I considered going to him but BC he was so new to the area I went to COR.  Oh well, it is what it is so now I am just going to get serious with this thing.

Hey Dancer, LOL I think if the OS doesn't see some improvement he will poo-poo on me!!!!  LOL  How are things going with you, hope all is well.

Molly, so good to get your post, you know I'm not sure about the extension and I actually think it comes and goes.  Some days my knee is great and I don't even think about it, other days it feels swollen and stiff so I think the other day may have been one on those bad days.  In any case I am back to prone hangs and stretching which I needed to do anyway.

I saw the trainer yesterday and see him again tomorrow, I worked out with him in the past and he is really good, I was down to 20% body fat and wayyyy below 200, now not so much, way, waaayyyyy over 20% and 200 so I have some work to do.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on December 12, 2009, 06:40:59 PM
Glad to hear about the new OS.  Sounds like he took a good look at things and gave you some good options.  You're brave for attempting the leg extensions (read that over on dancer's thread).  The light weights don't sound harmful at all though, and I do know that this machine really does fire up the quads.  I haven't used this one in a looonnngggg time though - thirteen years maybe since my first partial acl tear.  Hope it works for you and you see some good results.  If/when you do get a new brace, let us know what you end up with.  I see my OS again in May, and by then if I'm still hating my new DJ he'll prescribe a new one and I'm going to insist on a Townsend.  Hopefully by then my muscle bulk will be adequate as well.  Hope you have success with the new trainer sessions - post how it goes! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on December 13, 2009, 03:27:26 PM
Hi Vinnic, I read all the time and go back and forth on the leg extensions.  Most of the PT's have said to avoid them and most people on here say the same thing.  I think like you said tho' - I am using and going to stick to very light weights.  The other day was 10lbs....LOL.......and we spent time mostly by beginning the movement with the leg fully extended, the trainer holding up the bar and then me slowly lowering it with him there to assist.  I guess it's called doing negatives where you start at the top of the move and then lower the weight.  I did that in the past with him with bench presses and I have read that's where you can really build up strength.  He's pretty hypersenstive to what I can do and I know he will really push me to perform, sometimes annoyingly so.......but I really need this kick in the @$$.

Yesterday and especially today my muscles are very sore, I need to go get on the bike to work out this soreness but you know, it feels good.  It's the first time since I had the injury that I have pushed myself and it also makes me see just how much work I have to do to just get back into some sort of decent shape, I have managed to gain 25lbs and get to 30% body fat in the last year and 1/2 - I started at 190 and 20%.....good thing I'm 6' tall or I'd be that wide.  My clothes don't fit and I was really sinking in to a pretty good depression topped off with some family events that happended over the summer.  I kind of feel now that I am ready to emerge and snap out of this funk and enjoy things again.  Right now my leg is not letting me do that and I am more determined than ever to get back to my happy place....sorry, watched Happy Gilmore last night..... ;D

I do follow your posts, I just haven't been posting much.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on January 09, 2010, 12:47:04 AM
Happy New Year and I hope everyone's holiday season was a good one!!

Well, it's been almost a month that I have been going to the trainer and I must say that after much whimpering my knee is feeling much, MUCH better.  I had an episode the second week in where I had lots of pain and the knee was stiff and I could hardly go up and down the stairs.  My trainer was worried that he'd pushed me too hard.  I couldn't do squats or anything.

Then, after a few days it went away completely and I have to say the knee has not felt better in a long time.  It actually feels almost normal, whatever that was.

I have been doing lots of biking, rowing and squats, extensions (10lbs - LOL), curls, presses and feeling really good.  Still not sure about running but I have a feeling that will come.  My quad is still so pathetically small it's shocking sometimes to look at it.  I get frustrated BC I want things to move along faster (imagine that) but the trainer thinks that things are going well, (especially since he's off the hook for what he thought was a re-injury).

We are going back to Lake Tahoe in a few weeks, to the scene of the crime, and tho' I will not be skiing it will be fun to be out there as it is so beautiful.  I remember lying in the snow waiting for the ski patrol and looking at the Lake and the blue sky and thinking about what a beautiful day the guy that ran into me just ruined.  I may try some hiking and cross country skiing but no downhill.  Maybe next year.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on January 09, 2010, 10:40:20 AM
I know how you are feeling wanting to do things straight away and its good you are making good progress and can do certain exercises that you was unable to do before your surgery. I am sure you will be able to run soon it just takes a while as my physio told me today that recovery from a scope can take a couple of months to a year. I have not been abe to run since October 2007 but hope to run by the spring, missing not being able to run.

Its good you are making progress and your trainer happy with your progress.

Nick :) {2010} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on January 26, 2010, 01:38:12 AM
Tanks for stopping everyone, it really does mean alot to me to know that we are all in the same boat here on KG.  I went to Lake Tahoe last week - scene of the crime 2 years ago - and actually had a good time.  Didn't ski but made some friends in the bars and drank and ate good food at fun places.  We got 7-10' of snow so it was awesome.  I'll bet the conditions are even better this week.

My leg is still giving me fits.  Some days it's great and others I can hardly use it.  I went to the gym and did a hard workout of squats, lunges, step ups, etc until I couldn't do any more.  The next day I could hardly walk and I was so frustrated.  I see the OS in a week and it doesn't seem like anything has changed.  He wont help me until my leg is stronger and I really think a brace would help.  I guess I'll jut have to be on my own with this.

I'm so disappointed  :'( :'(

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on January 30, 2010, 09:50:39 AM
I started to go to the gym again this week for the 1st time since my surgery in November and felt ok while at the gym but had pain afterwards in in my good knee that not been operated on. I have good and bad days as well but knee remains swollen and painful, its might be a good idea for both of us to wear a brace until our knees become stronger again.

Glad you had a good time with your friends in Lake Tahoe even if it was the place that caused the start of you knee problems is nice to have a change of scenery once in a while. Hope you have a good weekend.

Nick :) {2010} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on January 30, 2010, 04:20:01 PM
Yes, glad to hear you had a good time in Tahoe!  That's one place I haven't been yet, but would love to see.  Well, I have been along 80 from SF to Reno a couple times if that counts.  And that was stunningly beautiful both times from the expressway.  Sounds like you had a great getaway!

As far as the knee, sorry to still hear about the fits.  It's got to be extremely frustrating on the days it acts up for you.  Hope your OS appointment goes well this coming week.  Is he waiting until you have more muscle tone to prescribe a brace (so it fits better)?  Well, I hope that you can manage to build up some strength in the meantime.  The squats, lunges, and other exercises sound good for that!  Are you still doing the leg extension machine too?  Well, best of luck and posts how it goes at your appointment.  Take care! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on February 04, 2010, 12:18:22 AM
Well, the OS visit went pretty well.  This OS is of the opinion that since it's been 2 years I am not going to build things back overnight.  I know I am being impatient but he seemed to think everything was going well.

He still doesn't think I have full extension and that it may not ever come, while somewhat alarming in all honesty it must only be off a couple of degrees and I don't limp BC of it or anything so although I am still going to work on stretching it I am not really all that upset about that particular issue.

I feel more impatient about everything else, I am still working with the trainer and we are getting more aggressive with the leg, I am doing light leg extensions but he is loading on the weight for the press and I do lots of squats and step ups.  Things are getting easier I must say.  At work we are on the 4th floor and I use the loo (a nod to my UK KG friends) on the 1st floor so I get lots of practice going up and down the stairs, I still can't imagine bounding up and down the stairs again but in time it will come.

The knee itself feels pretty good, I mentioned that at times it hurts right in the front behind the patellar tendon but then when I get warmed up it goes away.  Sometimes it feels like my knee may explode but then it's all good so I don't know what's up with that but he thought I could just work through that.

He mentioned another series of injections for lubrication - hylauronic acid - but I am not really all that thrilled to do anything like that while I am still making progress so we'll see.  We didn't even discuss a brace so I am really thinking that by the time we get to that point I really won't need one.

Thanks to all for all your support, I reread my last post and I was like "who posted that?" I don't remember feeling that down but I guess like my knee I have good days and bad days.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on February 05, 2010, 04:14:19 PM
I pleased that your OS appointment went well for you and are seeing some improvements. Its annoying when you are unable to do things because of the knee, I been told by my physio not to go to the gym so often and not to use the cross trainer. Its so annoying when you cannot do something you enjoy because of the knee. I am coming up to 12 weeks post op and knee not improved and could have some scar tissue according to my physio so my knee problem not coming to and end just yet. I also have good and bad days but more bad days since my scope in November and now thinking has surgery made knee worse?

Enjoy the Weekend.

Nick :) {2010} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on February 27, 2010, 12:51:45 AM
Hello all, just stopping by to say hi, my knee is doing much better and the trainer is really starting to make me work it hard.  It feels so good to do leg presses and lunges and just working hard.  The fatigue the next day reminds me that I am working it and I love it!!
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on February 27, 2010, 02:52:06 AM
Leg presses and lunges??? GOSH, I can't imagine lunges!  Unfortunately, I started leg press for the first time in 1yr this past Monday.  I HATE it and it's painful, but just enough pain to be told to push through it.  I am currently getting treated for patellar tendinosis...and have to push through a certain level of pain.  It was hard for me! 

I am so glad you are doing so well!  It has been a long time coming, right??  :)  You had your surgery shortly after me in 2008 and are doing soooo well compared to me...can't really compare it though...just happy you are getting back to normal!  See you my posted response on my blog and you will see my latest activity!!!  Unfortunately, it's over for 3 weeks at the least, but enjoyed it on the night I did it! 

Have a good weekend and it was so good to hear from you!!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on February 27, 2010, 10:30:06 AM
Thats great news that your knee is doing well its nice to read a positive post for a change. I am nearly 15 weeks post op and been told by my physio not use leg press and not do any lunges and also been told to stay away from the cross trainer which is annoying as I use to like using it and was fine using it pre op but since surgery can no longer use it.

Farrah gald you are able to use the leg press again even though its painful at least you are making some progress, have a good weekend.

Nick :) {2010} :)

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on March 30, 2010, 01:12:14 AM
Hello All:

Saw the OS today, he was generally pleased with everything, says keep working on the strength and thinks there is absolutely nothing unstable about my knee it's still just the weak quad.  He really didn't have anything to say about my bad knee days like Sunday where I could hardly walk and had lots of pain.

He mentioned the hylauronic acid injection again but didn't push hard, I guess I'll read more about it and see.  I see him again the end of June.

I told him I hate the trainer and he said that's a good sign of him working me hard.  He also said I could run if I wanted to, that's interesting and I may explore that.

So I'm still on the slow track I guess but it's all good.

Hope everyone is good, I'm off to read about Nick, Farrah, Nicole, Molly, and all my other KG friends.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on April 03, 2010, 11:55:04 AM
Thats great news that your OS thinks your knee is fine and just have to build up your quads. Be fantastic if you can start running again at the moment it is a long way before I can start to run again. Just because he says your knee is fine does not mean it is ok you could still have problems as you had a bad knee day last week Sunday so the hylauronic acid injection may help.

Happy Easter, hope you have a good weekend with family and friends.

Nick :) {2010} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 19, 2010, 05:21:06 AM
Hello All:  I have not been here much lately and have to catch up with everyone.  I just wanted to say that things are going well, stairs are just about a non-issue for me and I actually broke out into a little shuffle/jog the other day.  My leg is stronger and I just keep working on it with the leg press, extension, curls, lunges, squats, and whatever else comes to mind.

I hope everyone is doing well, I'm going to catch up on the other threads.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on May 20, 2010, 05:12:32 PM
Glad things are starting to improve for you, it is important to keep on top of your PT as its there to benefit the knee. I am also doing lunges and squats as well as going swimming and going to the gym.

Nick  :) {2010} :)

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 21, 2010, 12:24:07 AM
Hey Nick, glad to see you are making progress - keep at it you will get there.

I can tell that the level of intensity has everything to do with how the knee is, for awhile I was working my quads very hard and my knee felt great, then last 2 weeks I have slacked off as I strained my back - nothing major - but it has kept me from the gym and I can really feel the difference in my knee. It makes me want to get back in the gym and work my quads.....I'm turning into a gym rat.... :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: mollyc on May 21, 2010, 02:45:32 AM
BSG: Glad things are going well for you, mostly.  Sorry about your back. Be careful with that! Back things are no fun! Overall, though, it sounds like you are over the hump and have enough muscle strength to be able to do all you want to do exercise wise. It's a good feeling when you get there, cause then you can be so much more productive with the rehab. Take care!  Molly
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on May 22, 2010, 10:56:48 AM

You are so right about getting there in the end and seeing some improvments but I will not be satisfied until I can can run again. That was the main reason I had the surgery to be able to run again rather then getting rid of the knee pain. Hope your back strain is no too painful, have a good weekend.

Nick :) {2010} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: arkitect06 on May 23, 2010, 03:57:43 AM
Hey!! Sorry it's been so long!!  I am sorry to hear you hurt your back...I definitely know how it is to have bad knees with the bad back!  SUCKS!  Hopefully you are right in that it should improve on it's own...or quickly! 

Being a gym rat is healthy as long as you know when to stop or slow down.  I have had a gym membership as long as I have had RSD/CRPS thinking that "next month" I'd get back to the gym.  Those "next months" have lasted 2.5yrs! My husband and I are thinking to start going for walks help me exercise lightly and to help with our relationship.  I am still going through a ton of crap...I actually updated my diary after over a month.  RSD SUCKS!!!! 

Keep us posted on your back!  I hope you feel better so you can back to working out to the fullest!

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 18, 2010, 11:29:07 PM
Well, thought I'd post as I saw my original OS today.  Nothing major going on just wanted to get his thoughts on a few things.  Over the last several months I have noticed an increase in the "noise" my knee makes.  It pops, crunches, cracks, snaps, grinds, and just generally makes me cringe like nails on a chalkboard.  No pain at all but boy does it sound bad.  Well, the OS basically said that it's something that won't get better and is just due to years of trauma culminating with the ski injury a few years ago.  The ACL and MCL is lax and it always creeps me out when they do the laxity testing  :o   

He said I should not do squats, lunges, leg presses, extensions....I was like - should I just curl up in a fetal position and wait to go?  Running and anything high-impact is out.  He also thinks in the future I should have a scope to clean it out and may end up with a TKR.  Yikes!!!

Well, that's his opinion.  It's nothing I didn't already figure but I know he is right.  I think I will still do the exercises he told me not to do I'll just go easy.  My quads are getting very strong and I think he was surprised at just how strong they were BC they still look pretty shriveled but he could not bend my leg when he tried....I think that was good actually.

He's pretty conservative, old school but well respected and I think he is giving me good advice.

I'm not upset or anything just figure that well, that's what it is and it's up to me to deal with it.  I started a new round of P90X this week but actually think I will switch to Tae Bo as I really enjoy the cardio part of P90X.

Hope everyone is doing well and thanks for reading.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on June 19, 2010, 02:52:55 PM
Wow, that's interesting to say the least Big!  I'm really surprised to hear some of this advice.  Can't imagine not doing the exercises, especially with your recent progress.  I can sort of see the bit on higher-impact activities possibly aggravating the knee, but stopping with the strengthening...hmmm.  I'd think that these could only help the surrounding muscles to aid with the laxity.  Then again, I'm not an OS! 

On the noises, I can relate to this.  Ever since I developed a click last fall, it seems to be increasing with every step.  No pain, just like you, but I can't seem to put my finger on where it's coming from.  Sometimes I feel it more when I haven't done much (for example, after the appendix stage), and other times I feel it more after a good stretch of steady workouts (recently).  May be crepitus, but I'm hoping my OS will attribute it to my weak vmo or tight IT band when I see him next week.  Hope yours sorts itself out and soon.  It is annoying!  Well, good luck with the P90X and/or Tae Bo.  Enjoy the weekend! 
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on June 19, 2010, 07:18:16 PM
Hey Nikki, yeah I'm not sure about the doomsday scenario he laid out.  Not really sure why I went to see him other than just all the noise but as we know there's really not much you can do about that.

I think I'll just keep working on it and not think too much about it, I have been doing all those things and I think I'll just forego the high-impact, running type work and get on with it.

Good to hear from you.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on June 21, 2010, 04:17:03 PM

With all that your knee has been through over the years a TKR in the future may be a good thing if knee going to get worse over the next couple of years. At least now you know what you are dealing with and sounds like the OS appointment went well. Good your quads are strong, to help support the knee more.

Nick :) {2010} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on August 17, 2010, 01:28:36 AM
Hi Everyone, I just got back from 2 weeks in Montana - Big Sky Country - and now I'm back in DC....ugh!!

We had a great time and more importantly my knee was fine the entire time.  I don't know if elevation has anything to do with it but golfing, fishing, hiking, etc - I never even noticed anything wrong.  Now 2 days back east at sea level and I can feel the knee swelling again and generally feeling fat. 

.....Oh maybe the fatness is due to all the food and adult beverages we had while we were there......   :)

All kidding aside, the knee is truly a strange being - yes I do feel it has it's own little personality - maybe it just liked Montana better than Wash DC....who knows.

Hope everyone is well, I'm off to check everyone's thread.

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on August 17, 2010, 05:50:16 PM
Hi DD,

Glad you had a good time in Montana and great that you knee did not give you too many problems on your vocation or holiday as we know it in the UK. Sounds like you managed to do alot of thing in Montana and had a good time. I not at all surprised that you knee is swollen after all the things you have been doing the last 2 weeks. Take things easy for a few days and ice the knee every couple of hours.

Nick  :) {2010} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on September 22, 2010, 12:49:09 AM
Thought I would post another update.

Saw my young OS yesterday (he's the one that says "go for it", the old OS says I will need a TKR).  I also saw a PA that was working with him.  I mainly went for just a quick check-up, not really having any issues other than the noise that comes from my knee.

I think I have mentioned it here before but for about the last 6 months - right after a loud pop - my knee has been crunching like you can't believe.  I can't stand to hear it when I am working out and it was sooooo funny when both the PA and the OS came in and they put their hand on my knee and wanted me to flex and extend they both looked like it was fingernails on the worth it I just laughed.

Anyway, after a thorough exam and discussion they both thought things were good, I have no pain and the crunching is just something to live with.  They speculate that it is broken up cartiledge but as long as it's not causing any problems they don't think I need to do anything but continue strengthening and living life, they even said run if I want but I am still carrying around all this extra weight I gained so I've been walking up and down the hills by our house alot lately.

Thanks for checking in on my story and I'm off to read the other threads.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on September 23, 2010, 05:10:19 PM
Glad your OS appointment went well and found a OS that not saying you need a TKR. If you not having any pain when you hear the crunching then its ok to live with and many people live with clicking and crunching knees without too many problems. It would be good if you are able to run even if its just a short distance its a start. Swimming is the best form of exercise if you want to lose some weight.

Nick :) {2010} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on January 02, 2011, 12:14:18 AM
Well, 2011 - can you believe it!!

Next month is 3 years since I was injured by the @$$hole that ran into me on the slopes of Heavenly Valley in Lake Tahoe, CA.  Jerk, I hope he got hurt at least as bad as I did, I know, I know - supposed to turn the other cheek, screw that he should get at least what he gave.

OK, enough of that - you can see I'm over it.......right?......

The knee has been holding up well, I am doing more and more and hope to get back to working out on a regular basis this year.

Thanks for all the help and support here on this board, I don't think I could have gotten through this without all of you.  I hope to post that I am back running soon.  I had a issue with bursitis in my left hip last month and that set me back some but it seems to have cleared up now.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on January 08, 2011, 03:34:42 PM
Hi DD,

So it has been 3 years since that idiot ran into you on the slopes and hope he feel guilty for what he has done to you. I  have been going to the Hospital now for 3 years this January and still not been discharged yet. Good your knee is holding up well and like you also hope to be running again soon.

Happy New Year and hope 2011 is the year we can both run once again.

Nick :) {2011} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on May 10, 2011, 11:53:11 PM
Well, an update - not a great one.

I'm going back to PT to see if they can help me not only with the left knee but now my right knee.  I have so much pain when I go up and down the stairs and I'm hoping that a few sessions with the PT can get me back on track.

I ride the bike every morning for 30 minutes and take walks when I can.  I really would like to get back to running so we'll see.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on May 12, 2011, 05:14:34 PM
Hi Diane,

Sorry you are having problems with both your knees and finding it painful to go up and down the stairs. It is great that you are able to cycle for 30 minutes every morning and I know how you are feeling not being able to run as I was unable to for over 3 and a half years and can once again do what I enjoy doing and now cannot wait till my next jog!

Have you ever tried IMS as it really worked well for me and maybe it will also work for yourself. Dry needling may reduce your knee pain or even get you back to running again and is worth a try.

Nick :) {2011} :)

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: vinnic on June 29, 2011, 03:29:01 AM
Hey BSG - did you end up getting more therapy or not?  How is the knee progressing?  Hopefully things are improving for you!  Here, things are finally getting back to normal.  For starters, I could kick myself for having put my knee rehab / workouts on hold for the move across country and/or new job...  turned out to be a waste of time and knee progress!  I'm just now happy to be back on the treadmill, bike, and crosstrainer again to get things started back up (you're talking basics here, like step-ups, SLRS, etc)...  Anyway, hope it continues to go well for you!  Nikki
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 22, 2011, 03:32:35 PM
Hi Nikki,  I have not been keeping up with the PT visits and thus my knee has regressed some.  No one to blame but myself.  I am getting out for more walks and have been playing golf this summer so my goal is to get back to where I can walk a round of golf again. It's really more an issue of me being out of shape in general rather than just the knee.  It still "talks" to me quite a bit and it's like fingers on a chalkboard but I am working on getting past that.  Even the Drs and PTs grimace when it crunches and cracks.  Good to hear you are getting back in shape as well, it's so much easier to come home from work and sit on the couch but I am forcing myself to get up and out doing something.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on July 23, 2011, 11:18:42 AM
Hi Diane,

I am glad you are making some progress and are now able to go for more walks and will soon be able to play a full round of Golf. I am sure you so some kindness towards the Greens Staff on the golf course as where I work some of the members look straight through the Greens Staff and like to complain about the condition and state of the course.

Thanks for the reply on my thread and IMS is a miracle cure as I can now fully squat again pain free which I thought was going to be a life long problem. Nikkii it takes a while to recover fully from a scope and took 18 months post op before my knee got back to normal again.

Nick :) {2011} :)
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 23, 2011, 02:31:00 PM
Hi Nick, yes I saw on your thread you have made incredible progress and I am so thrilled for you.

I did forget to mention that I managed a golf course in the past so I do know just how incredibly disrespectful the golfers can be, fortunately they are usually few in number so I generally looked past it.

My only observation about our current crew is that they should wear helmets.  Our greens crew do not seem to be bothered by the presence of the golfers and will be right out in the fairway - I worry that they will be hit in the head - body shots, while painful, at least won't kill you so I may mention it to the golf shop.  I know the crew would think I'm crazy to suggest helmets or more accurately hard hats like construction workers wear.

Keep up the good work, last night I had a dream that I was running - in clogs of all things....hmmmmmm....wonder what that means.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on October 31, 2011, 01:09:10 AM
Well, this is going to be a pity party.

Last week I spent the day painting a room in the house and ever since then my knee is swollen and sore and stiff.  I can't kneel or even move quickly.  It's all hot and really swollen. And my other knee is sore BC I used it so much more when kneeling and squatting, etc.

It's my MCL and it really hurts tonight.  When is it ever going to get better?  I don't know if I should see the drs again, they aren't much help.  The PTs just want to wear you out and then tell you you are not tryng hard enough.  I'm so frustrated.  I don't think I will ever run or even be back to normal ever......again.  :'(
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on November 03, 2011, 05:32:57 PM
Hi Diane,

Really sorry that your knee is playing up again and hope it settles down soon and do not have to go back to your OS again. I thought I would never be able to run again until I saw Dr Brown for IMS sessions that worked well for me. I only had a minor surgery on my knee and can risk running but maybe with your knee situation is best to avoid running if possible as it wears out the knee quicker. I am very keen runner and and willing to risk wearing my knees out and maybe you feel the same and enjoy running too much to give it up due to knee problems.

I am getting fed up working on the golf course not due to the members just no longer enjoy my job I dislike the early mornings and working weekends. I want to train up to work with adults with asperger syndrome that have broken the law as I went through a bed spell during my breakdown and the Police, Judges and CPS need to be more aware why people with AS often get themselves into trouble. I would be their support worker and make sure they are treated fairly. Also working outdoors all my working life is not great for the joints.

Nick :) {2011} :)

Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on January 17, 2012, 01:39:11 PM
Well, here we are in 2012 - hard to believe this April will be 4 years since I was run into on the ski slope.

After wallowing in my own little pity party during November and into December I decided to go back to PT.  I found a place that really made me work hard and it paid off.  I was sidelined by pneumonia in early January but my knee is much stronger and getting better daily.  Goes to show you to never give up, I plan to make 2012 the year of my rebuild both mentally and physically.
Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: Clarkey on January 19, 2012, 05:30:07 PM
Hi Diane,

2012 already and time goes quicker the older we get and before we know it will be 2013. You might not have joined KG if it was not for the guy running into you on the ski slopes and is a nice bulletin board to post on and have made many online friends thanks to KG. It does pay to keep on top of your PT as it benefits the knees. I hope you have recovered fully from pneumonia and sounds like its going to be a good year for you health wise. 2012 is the 1st full year since 2006 that I can run fully again with minimal knee pain, so is a good start.

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Title: Re: BSG's ACLr - 14 April 08
Post by: BigSkyGirl on July 24, 2021, 04:42:01 PM
Hello All, it has been a very long time since I have posted.  It was nice to come back and visit old threads and see how everyone is doing.

My knee has been basically stable since I was last here but in 2020 I did injure it while golfing.  I didn't do any structural damage but the twisting created some pain/discomfort and lack of extension for a few weeks.  I have also developed tears of the rectus abdominus and left abductor tendons and after consult with Dr/PT concluded that my knee weakness/arthritis/extension is probably causing the pelvic issues.

So, back to PT and stretching…now, I am looking for advice/thoughts regarding the purchase of an ice therapy machine.  There are many available, after some research it seems that the Vive and Ossur units are good.

I am not the best at searching forums and when did a search of this forum I found a thread that was last updated in 2012 so, if anyone can share some links that would be great.

Thank you.