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Title: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 16, 2006, 02:25:35 AM
Hi everyone... well I was riding my horse tonight, and I had a  bad fall. We took a  bad fence together, and we both landed off balance. I tried to stay on.. but I didn't. I came off the right hand side, my left knee twisting as I went in the stirrup going over the horses back. IT came free as I was falling and I landed on my left knee.  The pain in my left knee when it first happened, was extreme, I couldn't put any weight on it, and I held my horses reins to keep myself upright while I gathered my self together. The pain subsided a little and I was able to make it back to the barn.  I couldn't get a hold of my husband or anyone else for that matter... and it really hurt.  Anyway... it seemed to settle down, and I made it back to my house, but by the time I got to the front lawn I could barely stand on it.  I'm in SO much pain now, I took 1000 mgs of Tylenol and 400 mgs of Advil, and lot's of ice and elevation.. but it's really painful.  Mostly on the lateral side, but kind of everywhere too! :( It's not super swollen but it's swollen some.. and it's throbbing.  I decided to wait and see how it is in the morning before I got to the ER, but i'm thinking that was stupid as i'm in so much pain now. :(

What should I do?

Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: rozzzie on May 16, 2006, 03:21:11 AM
OMG Linds,

So sorry you took a fall.  I think you know what you should do - go to the ER.  If there is any doubt, go.  It seems like you are a bit unshure, always err on the side of caution.  Please go.

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Rozzzie
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: mhsflute07 on May 16, 2006, 04:44:32 AM
Oh, Linds, I'm so sorry!

I really think you should go to the ER. It's better to be safe than sorry. I hope you feel better soon!

~Erin~
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Nettan on May 16, 2006, 06:12:52 AM
Linds, hope it has settled down or that you managed to go to ER.
I also hope that it's nothing serious with you.
BIG HUG NETTAN 8)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Audice on May 16, 2006, 02:04:35 PM
Hi Linds ~ I can sympathize having injured my knee in a fall from my horse last year. Like you the initial pain was extreme but I managed to get my horse settled & myself home. Iced & rested but felt by the next morning that I'd done something serious to my knee so took myself off first to my Internist for pain meds. Was then scheduled for an MRI & referred to an OS. Major damage! Get thee to a specialist! Wishing you well...Ellie
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight (60 hours in)
Post by: Linds on May 18, 2006, 11:58:24 AM
Well, it's been about 60 hours since I came off my horse. Gosh it feels like weeks...
I didn't end up going to the ER, I ended up calling my uncle who happens to be an OS, and he suggested that I could probably take better care of myself, than the GP's in this small town where I live. It's not meant to offend anyone, but he is probably right.  So i've had my leg mostly elevated and iced or my PTO brace on... when i'm not icing since Monday night when I fell off my horse.  There is good news, and there is bad news. The good news is, the pain has settled down alot. The bad news is, if I spend any amount of time on my feet.. it puffs up like a marshmallow. As long as I stay laying down and up to speed with my ice and ibuprophen, things are reasonable.
For some reason, and I have yet to figure out why i'm terrified of my knee. I'm scared to walk normal, for fear... i'm not sure of what..  I've lost some extension so it may be that i'm afraid it will hyperextend sort of, i've had that problem post op before.  Maybe it's my brain that's gaurding it.. i'm not really sure. All I know is, when i try to walk.. I limp even though i'm trying to walk normal.. you know what I mean? I can't tell if i'm being a wimp or if something is really wrong.  Ohwell, it's only been 2.5 days... guess time will tell.
Anyway.. I have to go to Halifax this weekend for a bussiness meeting, so my uncle siad he'd look at it if it's still giving me grief.  I'm going stir crazy as I haven't been out of the house since I fell of my horse, and normally i'm walking to the barn twice a day for chores and to ride and take care of my horse. :(
Gotta get outside today when my hubby gets home from work this morning. I havent' attempted stairs yet and i'm not about to do it alone.

Thanks for your support
Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: shade on May 18, 2006, 12:47:11 PM
Linds,

Sorry to read about your horse accident. 

Understand what you mean about the healthcare....the public in general here just don't seem to understand that we are entitled to decent healthcare.  I've had nothing but problems trying to get 'basic healthcare' at hospitals and GP's office since my knee surgeries.  It is a black eye on this country......

Hope that everything is okay with your knee & rest, ice and elevation will ease the instability & pain.  Take care and let us know how it all goes. 

Sending hugs, 

~Shade


Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Nettan on May 18, 2006, 02:36:31 PM
Linds, I have IM you.

Thinking of you....
HUGS NETTAN  8)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Nettan on May 20, 2006, 01:01:48 PM
Linds..wonder how you are doing..is is better ? Hope so ;D

HUGS NETTAN  8)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 22, 2006, 01:06:45 AM
Oi, I thought I was doing better, but then this weekend I was at my parents and spent some time actually trying to get around, and OUCH... now i'm back hom with the polar care on... thinking I better hit the doctor tommorow. My OS wasn't able to see me this weekend, he had to go out of town. :(
It hurts.. i'm a little worried.
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 22, 2006, 01:45:25 AM
On a positive note, the strength in your quads from riding probably helped you and/or it will help your recovery.  The must ride horse gene will get you healed and back in the saddle as quickly as possible, just be careful.  I'll follow your posts with great interest, because riding will be my #1 goal after surgery.
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Nettan on May 22, 2006, 06:03:43 AM
Linds, sorry you aren't better...but don't worry before you have seen your doc.
Even if you haven't damaged anything a accident like this one take time to heal.
HUGS TO YOU LINDS !!

NETTAN  8)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 22, 2006, 10:20:36 AM
Thanks Ladies... :)
Donna, what type of surgery are you having?  Just wondered... Thanks for your words of encouragement... my husband and I just bought a 195 acre farm to run beef and a horse program, so that is gonna put pressure on my need to heal. I thought it was getting better... until yesterday. Then I reliased I was just babying it so much that I didn't realise the problem. 

Thanks Nettan, I know you are right, it might have just been too much too soon and i'm not giving it the time it needs to heal. But i've gotten to the point now where the calf muscles are all painful too, and i've been stretching them the best I can, but it's just a mess... think I need some back up. :-[ I hate going to the hospital...

Thanks again, i'll keep you posted

Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 22, 2006, 12:41:45 PM
Hi Linney

Oouchy ouch ouch ouch! Reading your first post gave me that horrible tingling sensation on my shoulders and down my arms!  :o
I hope you are starting to feel better. It must be handy having an OS in the family especailly if your GP isn't the best in the world.
Having had knee problems myself for so many years, falls and injuries scare the hell out of me so I would encourage you to get it checked out just incase.

Congratulations on the purchase of your farm, how exciting.  ;D Sounds like good fun hard work. I was just wondering if your horse is ok after the fall too?

Wishing you a speddy recovery and every success with your new venture.
Hop  ;)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 22, 2006, 01:44:19 PM
Hi, you do have a lot of work ahead of you!  Where is your farm? I'm having scope/LR.  There's an MRI shadow to indicate a meniscus problem.  My knee was hyperextended when a pack of dogs ran into me at the dog park a couple of years ago.  It has been injected, and for 2 years I accepted the "you're old, and it takes time to heal," and "you have arthritis" from the GP.  Finally in April I got a referral to  and OS.  Truth is that I am old and I do have arthritis, but I want to feel better :-)  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 22, 2006, 03:16:20 PM
Well My Os emailed me this morning and said to call the office tommorow morning to see if the can squeeze me in to see him.  It means another trip all the way back to Halifax but it makes more sense than just a GP at the outpatients here I think.  I'm too afraid to do much with it until it's looked at and i'm given the okay, after the painful weekend.. so... that's where it stands.

Hop-skip-n-jump.. My horse is fine, thanks for asking. I crashed, he was fine. Just stood there looking at me wondering what I was doing on the ground. He was a good boy even let me pull myself up with his reins. :)

Goodluck with your surgery Donnawanna...I hope it helps. It's no fun, no matter what age you are having knee pain all the time. :)

Thanks guys
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 22, 2006, 04:11:08 PM
Forgive me for not asking about your horse, especially after the bad accident at the Preakness.  Hope you have someone to care for him while you're down.  I've tentatively hired a teenager to ride both of mine for a month following surgery.  She'll be under the watchful eyes of my trainers.  You've got an incredible amount of land, etc to care for!  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 22, 2006, 05:31:45 PM
Thanks Donna,

Sounds like you are all set up for your horses. :)
I have  my horse at a neighbors house, for now.. until we move to the farm in July, and she has been taking great care of him. Unfortunately he's not getting enough work these days.  The nieghbors daughters ride, and would ride him, but I have to be down there, because they are only 8 and 12.. and their Mom doesn't know much about riding. Only about slinging hay and lugging water. 

So, he'll just have to have a vacation. Maybe once i'm getting around a little better, then I can go sit down in the riding ring while the girls ride him.

What kind of horses do you have?

My boy is a Percheron/Arabian Cross. :)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 22, 2006, 06:50:23 PM
Now that's a cross!  One of mine is a Connemara/TB, and the other is a Belgian/mutt.  My last horse was a big Westphalian (RIP), and now I'm riding ponies so I don't have as far to fall.  Haven't shown in a dozen years (no money).  Gotta love the horse community taking care of each other :)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 22, 2006, 09:12:44 PM
Your horses sound lovely. :) I love crosses and especially draft crosses. :) I'm looking right now at a 3/4 Quarter horse/1/4 Belgian Cross.. he's adorable. Because my horse is 18.. so it's time to start bringing along a youngin'.

The horse community does take care of eachother.  ;D

Take care

Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 23, 2006, 01:07:27 AM
You're as hopeless as I am about the horses!  My Belgian is allegedly crossed with TB and QH, but the vet looks at him and says he's just a pasture bred mutt.  He's 5.  The Connemara is 11, and she's been nursing a groin pull for almost a year. The ponies are certainly a reason for us to mend and heal!  Were you able to get an appointment with your OS?  I'm going to a doctor Wednesday to start the cookie diet.  I've known people that have lost 30-40 pounds in 2 to 3 months on this diet.  Seems like a good idea for me preop and rehab ;D
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 23, 2006, 04:24:54 AM
I have to call my OS 's office or him, in the morning.  I imagine they'll fit me on Thursday morning. I am hoping he'll call in a script for T3's for me, as the Tylenol/Advil combination i'm taking doesn't seem to be helping me anymore.

Your horses sound lovely. :) I can't imagine life without my big guy.. :)

The Cookie diet? i haven't heard of that one.. sounds promising.. lol. :)  My Dad swears by the Atkins diet... when you do it the right way. :)

i'll keep you posted. :) Goodluck

Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 23, 2006, 01:08:38 PM
I just bought an Opti Ice Cold Therapy machine on eBay.  It claims to circulate cold water for 12 hours.  That sounds like a grand way to spend July.  I'll probably share it with horsey friends.   Hope your appointment goes well and that you get some new meds!
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 24, 2006, 12:58:28 AM
I have a Breg Polar Care cold therapy unit for my knee... is that like what you bought? I LOVE mine.. couldn't have made it through my surgeries without it!!

Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: shade on May 24, 2006, 01:25:18 PM
Linds,

Congratulations on the new farm - is it in Ontario?  Just wondering as I recall you mentioned moving there, I think....
Hope you feel better soon.

Donna,

Read up on those ice machines - 12hrs sounds great!!

http://www.medco-school.com/Supply/Product.asp?Leaf_Id=13030

(http://www.medco-school.com/images/products/13030.jpg) The opti-ice units sound great!!  I've never heard of them before - I've got a Aircast cryocuff unit and it's been really great.  Makes icing alot easier.....

Linds let us know how everything goes.

Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 24, 2006, 02:57:41 PM
Hey

Well, I decided not to make the 4 hour round trip to Halifax to see my OS just yet. Instead I paged him and he called me this morning.  He thinks i'm doing a fine job taking care of myself... and suggested that next time we are in Halifax to let him know and he'll meet me at the clinic and just take a good look at it.  HE thinks that i've injured some ligaments from my description of what happened and how things feel now. 
So that's the news there... we spent more time talking about Barbaro the race horse that broke his leg and his chances then.. anything else.. he wanted to know what I thought about the horses chances for recovery.

Shade... we decided to stay in Nova Scotia. The job we got offered seemed to become too good to be true, after much talk and investigation.  The farm is near Windsor NS. We will be moving there mid July. :) So exciting.. MUST GET BETTER.

Unfortunately, I spent much time preparing to compete with my horse this summer, and now it seems that I may not get to many shows. :(

FREAKIN' Knee...

Oh well, it was still nice spending all the time with my horse. I miss him so much not being able to walk down to see him everyday.

Thanks for your thoughts, and i'm hoping this thing is gonna start to heal up soon.

Hugs

Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Nettan on May 25, 2006, 02:07:36 PM
Linds, it's great that you can have this good contact and feedback from your doc without travel to him.
I know you miss being with your horse and I'm sorry to hear that you have worked with him so much and now this. But Linds you are a tough girl and who knows maybe this is solved quicker then you know. I hope you can compete this summer.
Great that you can stay and don't need to move that long.
Wish you all the best as usual.

HUGS NETTAN  8)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: shade on May 25, 2006, 02:20:14 PM
Linds,

Hey that is great about moving into an area where you will at least be quite familar with and it's closer to Halifax by looking at a map.  Sounds good....

Hopefully your surgeon will be able to help you out, if it's necessary.

Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 25, 2006, 02:50:03 PM
Thanks Ladies,

Yeah Windsor is only about 45 minutes outside of the city.. so it's really great .. ;D

I'm sure things will get sorted out eventually, i'm very lucky to have an OS in the family.. even though I have my issues with him.. to be able to just give him a call and chat about some of this stuff.

Atleast for the moment... my new injuries take my mind off my old chronic issues... he he he.. of course my right knee is SCREAMING from having to support most of my weight.  so it's getting iced just as much as the injured one.

Thanks again
hugs
Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 25, 2006, 05:16:32 PM
Linds, you're just like a horse--- all treatment seems to be ice and rest with anti-inflamatants.  Somehow I imagined you to be near the other Halifax in UK.  Both areas look beautiful!  Glad you got a thumbs up for your self care.
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 25, 2006, 09:05:35 PM
ha ha.. Halifax Nova SCotia. ;D In Canada... I wish I lived in the England.. just cause it would be fun. ;D

yeah i'm taking care of myself best I can...I got to go to barn chores where my horse is tonight, and that was nice, I got to brush him and give him hugs and kisses. It's really the worst part of being injured.. is not being able to sook with my horse all day everyda.

hugs
and goodluck

Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 26, 2006, 06:14:24 PM
Now I'm imagining our horses as part of a therapeutic riding program for us instead of for handicapped children.  We all have our special needs.  Glad you're doing better and you're out and about with your horse!
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 27, 2006, 02:12:44 PM
He's definately therapy for me... injured or not.  ::) but I like to think i'm therapy for him too!!!

I'm definately thinking i'd better get in to see my OS soon, I thought things were coming around, but now ... not so much. Yesterday morning, I had to dig through my medicine chest and found my last remaining T3 and was desperate for some relief from the gnawing pain in my kneecap. Then I was out with my husband just doing a little bit of weeding in the front garden, and I turned just a little to dump a bucket of weeds and almost fell to the ground with the pain. :( 

My leg just feels strange, I want to say numb but it isn't numb it's just... fuzzy feeling or something and it's just so achey and wierd. It'll be two weeks on Monday since I fell.  I think it should be improving by now but it isn't.. not really.

:(

It's like sometimes it feels pretty okay but that's when i'm doing absolutely nothing and just walking around the house with level flat floors. :(

Anyway... that's the way it is at the moment.

:(

Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 27, 2006, 02:22:28 PM
You'll be better off knowing what's really wrong with you, because then you can have choices for treatment.  I started with injections, and that did improve the pain.  Then for a couple of years I accepted the GP saying I had arthritis.  Then I decided that I knew I had a traumatic injury and my right knee hurt while my left knee didn't.  I'm glad that I got an MRI and new xrays.  What a pity that we have to push for complete medical care.  What a pity that you have to travel to get it.  Most medical conditions whether it be a sore throat, a wound, or a knee will resolve within 10 days if they will resolve without medical care.  After that it's time to see a doctor.  Your horse needs you, so you gotta get better!!!
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Nettan on May 27, 2006, 02:28:10 PM
Linds, I don't like your sad :( in your whole message...call your OS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From big sis to little sis...please do that !!
Hate to see you in pain and not feeling well.

HUGS NETTAN big sis 8)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 28, 2006, 01:16:30 PM
I'm headed off to see my OS on Tuesday morning.... eeek makes me sick just thinking about him twisting and turning the thing. :-X
Let you know what he says

Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 28, 2006, 02:29:29 PM
Take a crop with you to the OS ;D
Glad you're going to get that knee checked.  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Nettan on May 28, 2006, 03:32:07 PM
Linds, good luck on tuesday. Hope it's nothing serious.

HUGS NETTAN "big sis" 8)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 30, 2006, 01:49:59 AM
Thanks Ladies, i'm terrified of tommorow.. cause it's Ugh a teaching hospital and that means ... GASP student docs. :P
I'll let ya know what goes on.
Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 30, 2006, 05:17:22 AM
Lucky you, because you'll get the most modern ideas shared in a teaching hospital.  We'll all hold you in our thoughts tomorrow, and we'll all look forward to reading your next post!  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 30, 2006, 01:28:14 PM
Diagnosis, ACL tear, but not complete rupture (he doesn't think) Thank goodness.. however, my OS says such things take forever to heal and specially with my body. Anyway, ACL brace, fitted this afternoon or tommorow morning and then back to life... :P
Glad I bit the bullet and came and NO student Doctors, though my OS hurt me after promising he wouldn't.

Thanks for your support
hugs
Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: rozzzie on May 30, 2006, 01:52:54 PM
Linds,

Sorry it's your ACL, that is a serious bummer. >:(  I hope the brace will help and that they can fit you with a brace that you can ride in.   Hope you can ride soon. 8)

HUGs

Rozzzie
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: shade on May 30, 2006, 02:05:21 PM
Linds,

Guess you now know why your knee hurt so much.....   I'm surprised you won't need a reconstructive surgery with your active lifestyle with horses, but guess the doctor knows best.  Hopefully the ACL brace makes the difference.  Good luck with rehab.

Here is a good site about acl..... http://www.aclsolutions.com/treatmen.php

Sending healing vibes.....................   ~Shade
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 30, 2006, 04:07:24 PM
Thanks Ladies,
There is a BREG brace that is designed for riders, and other athletes that wear tall boots. The brace guy i'll be going to is a breg dealer so we'll see.
Umm... yeah my OS figures in about 6 months the thing should be well on it's way to being mended... Sigh.. i'm happy I don't need more surgery though...or atleast it doesn't appear that way.

Hope I can get riding again soon too, but he didn't look to optomistic when I asked him. :P Bumber

Take care
Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 30, 2006, 04:37:03 PM
Please tell me more about the brace when you get fitted and/or when you get it.  When you were told that healing takes a while, did that imply that you won't be riding for a while or does it mean you're good to go with the brace?  Glad you got a definitive diagnosis.  Now you can move forward.  Best, donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 30, 2006, 05:55:15 PM
Well, when I asked my OS about getting a leg over my horse again, he just kind of rolled his eyes and gave me that "you know the answer to that " look. One step at a time, I have to be able to start walking again before I can start riding ... so that's the first step. Just now , walking around the house in the day leaves me in agony and swollen like nothing else. But he thinks that once we get it braced and stop continuosly injuring and agravating the ACL life will be a little better. and I can start walking again. My Thigh muscles have completely shut down at current so it's going to take some time.
Thanks Donna. :)
Hugs
Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 30, 2006, 06:38:36 PM
Of course there aren't too many horses you can trust to baby sit either.  Sorry, I don't mean to rush your recovery.  I know it's hard to lose horse time.  I haven't even begun my surgery or rehab, and I'm already missing the horses.   My youngster was rearing on Sunday, so he's out of favor!  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 30, 2006, 06:43:33 PM
uh oh.. rearing horses.. yikes... well my horse is quite the babysitter really... but it's the whole getting on thing and i'm terrirfied that if he pulls away or something when i'm leading him i'll be in BIG trouble... so i'm not sure what will happen.. One step at a time...
Thanks for your words though, it's really nice having horsey people to talk to. :)
Hugs
Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 30, 2006, 06:59:53 PM
Besides the horsey issue, you're farming/ranching chores sound immense.  Must admit 200acres and 40+ sounds romantic and independent, but it must be more work than I can imagine.  I'm just a teacher in Los Angeles, and my summer school program is independent study.  So I see one student at a time.  Mine is a rehab type of job!   If I can't make it, I'm old enough to retire (59), but I want to work another year to make more $ for retirement at 60.  I'll really want to work, if I can't go ride!!! 
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 31, 2006, 11:20:56 AM
Hey Donna, well we haven't taken over the farm just yet, but have agreed to do the first cut of hay, to make it easier on the 60 something farmer. So.. it complicates things as we currently live 2 hours north/east of hte farm. :P Ugh... this is gonna be fun...
WE've both worked on many farms are very in love with teh work hard, sleep well be happy life it provides. :)
Ack, I wish I could go back and change the way I fell off my horse though... sigh..
ohwell whats done is done and i've made my bed and now I have ot lie in it. :) he he he...
Take care
Linds :)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Audice on May 31, 2006, 12:52:00 PM
Linds ~ I was lucky in that I damaged my right knee so getting back on my horses was less of an issue than you'd have with your left knee in trouble. If you have a reliable honest horse any chance of mounting from the right side? Even using a mounting block?

I could stand on my bad knee & mount easily enough from the near side just being careful not to twist my knee as I was swinging my leg over the saddle. And instead of dismounting in the conventional way, I swing my right leg over the pommel of the saddle, slip my left leg out of the stirrup & dismount with my back to my horse landing on my good leg.

The joy of being back on my horse dispelled any fears of further injuring my leg. And I found that the saddle provided a brace of sort for me. Only a great deal of posting at the trot proved to be uncomfortable.

Hoping you can get riding again soon...Ellie
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 31, 2006, 01:12:26 PM
Good advice, Audice.  I'm lucky that my surgery will be on my right knee.  I'm also lucky that my ponies are only 14+ H.  Not so lucky that the 5 year old has taken to rearing instead of going forward.  I'm afraid of him right now.
Hey, Linney, can you post photos of the farm?  My grandpa retired to Nova Scotia, and I never met him before he died.  I'd love to see the land.  Sounds like you have too much on your plate right now to take up photography as a hobby, but I'd be interested to see any pictures that you might have.  Hope that knee feels better with the brace!  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 31, 2006, 01:38:26 PM
Thanks Ladies,
I can actually mount my beast from the right side. It's something we worked on plenty when I had the LR surgery on my left knee, only 22 months ago.  He's very quiet and he'll stand... it's just that right now i'm in quite a bit of pain and discomfort and can't even think about getting back on.. just yet. But hopefullly it won't be too long.

Donna, I will post some pics of the farm, when I get back to my home in Springhill... right now i'm at my Mom and Dads. :)

Take care
and Thanks
Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on May 31, 2006, 03:21:32 PM
Good on you for being ambidexterous about mounting.  I'm too mentally challenged to physically do that.  I can't even turn my horses counter clockwise in crossties.  I'll look forward to those pictures!  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 31, 2006, 05:57:42 PM
When I was small, my riding teacher taught us all to mount both sides. and when I was training young horses we always mounted both sides.. just to change things up a little. It is hard though.. kind of like writing with your non dominant hand. But once you figure it out. it's not too bad. :)

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Post by: rouellon on May 31, 2006, 06:35:49 PM
I too have a horse and I didn't even think of the getting on part!  Ug I am going to have to get my trainer to start working on mounting her from the right side since she is only three I want her to be very comfortable with it b/f I get on!
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Post by: donnawanna on May 31, 2006, 06:47:19 PM
And let's not forget about getting off and landing on the ground!  I don't trust my 5 year old most of the time, so good luck with a 3 year old.  A few years ago I had a bulging disc, and my GP actually came to ride my horses for me.  He's no longer interested in doing that.  Darn.  Just being around horses and the uneven footing will be challenge enough for some of us ;)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on May 31, 2006, 07:15:09 PM
yeah it really is scary what we take for granted isn't it. Fortunately my husband is pretty great... I know when I start to ride again he'll be there to help me get on and definately to help me get off... without hurting myself too much. But right now I just can't see that being anytime in the NEAR future.

Ps I am glad my horse is 18.. not 3.. yipes

Linney
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Post by: ruthpan29 on May 31, 2006, 07:51:15 PM
Hey Linds,
had a look at your site and pics... it's amazing to see your farm and horse for a city gal like me  ;D
I hope you get better with your knee probs soon and ride your way above it!
 :D
Ruth
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Post by: rouellon on June 01, 2006, 05:03:40 AM
The getting off part I figured I would just land with the weight on the good leg (strained some muscles about a month bf the break and thats what I did untill it got better).  Thankfully for a 3 year old she has the BEST personality and temperment!  She still has yet to buck or rear under saddle and she has approx. 30-40 rides under her and I have had her since she was a yearling.  Ug you should see the before and after pictures  :D  It's like she is a different horse now.... 

She really is like my first born  ;) as many of you most likely experience yourself, I just can not stop talking about her.  Although my first born is almost 3 months now  :)  Which means when Alexandrea is able to ride she can jump on Dutchess (if she is not being shown professionally)

Sorry for the ramble...

Take care!
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 06, 2006, 07:47:55 PM
Well here I am 22 days since the night I came off my horse. :( I've only seen him like 3 times which makes me really sad all on it's own.

I'm still not getting around too well, and my NEW custom Fusion BREG ACL brace won't be here for about another week. Sigh..  My OS thinks it's will make a huge difference for me and I hope he's right i'm getting really shack wacky... :P

Anyway... that's my news for now. .nothing too new, trying to do a little home PT, as my OS is sending me for PT but not until afte rI get the brace.

Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 06, 2006, 09:39:31 PM
Your waiting game sounds awful.  Hopefully the brace will really make a difference.  How's the farm?  How's the pain?  Are you getting cheerful calls from the people caring for your horse?
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 07, 2006, 11:36:41 AM
WEll, it being summer, there is not much to do with respects to the horse. We feed them outside so it's not a REAL big deal just chuck some hay over the fence type thing.  But... I wish I could be down there. I am going down this morning, to brush him... hopefully.. we'll see how I feel when I get there.  He's only a ten minute walk down the road... so I feel like a horrible horse Mom, but i'm afraid to step on some uneven ground. Even last night I stepped on a pillow that was on the floor, and my heel was up and my knees down and ouchy.  So.. yeah... it's kind of ... scary. Anyway...

It is a fun waiting game, always. My Os is calling me today , just to see how things are going. There are definately draw backs to having an OS in the family but definate + to, and ACL injuries just happens to be his area of expertise. Although, I hope that all he is required to do is , listen to me whine a little, set me up with this brace and some physio... I really can't stomach anymore knee surgery just now.

Take care, enjoy your horses. :)

Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 07, 2006, 01:40:24 PM
Good Morning :D  You aren't walking 10 minutes in your current condition are you?  I like your new signature statement.  Hope you get that brace S O O N ! ! !
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 07, 2006, 01:51:42 PM
Hey donna, No, my friend is coming to get me, with her Car.  I was in agony after venturing out to the mail box yesterday.. whcih is just directly across the street from my house. :P So I definately couldn't be walking the ten minutes. not to mention it'd take me bout an hour... in my current condition. :)

Have a great day

Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 07, 2006, 03:22:45 PM
Glad to hear that you're not trying to walk too far, but sorry to hear that the mailbox trek was too much to bear.  How are you entertaining yourself?  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 07, 2006, 08:18:23 PM
Hey Donna, well I got to see my horse today.. Sweet Boy, he's all shiny and dappled.. OOOOH I want to ride.. anyway...
i'm trying to keep myself busy with computer stuff, working on birthday gifts and letters to friends, not to mention washing clothes.. My husband is a dairy herdsman so there is ALWAYS laundry. :) Sigh...

Suppose that's about it, i'm going a wee bit shack whacky but... what ya gonna do?

lol
:)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 07, 2006, 09:13:15 PM
I've read about some people that find joy in leg raises.  Guess you can just be glad that you have some pain relief at this time.  When might you get your brace.  I'm guessing that the no riding will be left up to you to know when you feel more healed, and that sounds like it's a ways away, but it'll come.  Dairy question---- how do the cows deal with your weather?  Glad that you've got the time to get on the computer.  I'm on most of the day at school.  Good to hear from you!!!  donna
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Post by: Linds on June 08, 2006, 12:42:31 AM
Hey Donna,
My brace should be in this time next week.. when i'll be in Halifax working at the provincial election so it should work out well for timing. :)

The cows handle our weather just fine, do you mean with the cold temperatures? THey do quite well, they live indoors in the winter though.. and are only out during the summer, and only if they are not being milked.
:)

Take care
linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 08, 2006, 12:55:48 AM
Duh, I should've known that the cows come inside for winter.  I know that the horses do.  Do you have a covered arena where you can ride?  Good on you for being involved with the election.  Hope the brace helps you during that time!  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 09, 2006, 05:20:50 PM
I don't have my own covered arena, but where we live now ther eis a retired vet that breeds QH's and she lets us all use her indoor arena, so it's always there if I want it.   i'm not sure what will happen when I move to the farm, but... I prefer to ride outside anyway. I just bundle up against the cold and off I go. :)  Lol... My Horse seems to like it outside better too, he get's quite full of life. ;D

Most Beef Cattle in this area winter out, but dairy cows are delicate flowers.. lol anything remotely stressful can throw them off their milk it's quite a science.

I worked at the Federal Election here in Canada back in January, so this will be more of the same, but different :D

Hope you are well
Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 09, 2006, 05:39:38 PM
Isn't the ground frozen in winter?  My Connemara came from Ithaca NY, and while I was waiting to get her shipped to me another horse in the same barn slipped and fracture its hip.  Guess I don't really know enough about your geography/weather.  How did you do with the election work?  Did your knee kill you?  Did you get your brace?  Good to hear from you.  Donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 09, 2006, 08:06:57 PM
Hi Donna, well we don't ride outside if the ground is icey.  Fortunately usually here in the winter it's either enough snow to give the horses lot's of traction , or the ground isn't frozen at all.  So.. usually it works out pretty good. There was only about 2 weeks this winter that I had to settle for grooming and or hacking, just along the dirt road at a walk.  :)

The Election is THIS tuesday.. so I get my brace then... Sigh.. I hope it is in before Election day... it would be a great help. But i'll be working at a table anyway, so I should be alright. :)

Take care :)

Linney

PS it's SO bad right now because i'm REALLY chomping at the bit to get back on my horse.. which is absolutely rediculous because I can still hardly walk... someone will have to sedate me before long... lol Guess that's what ATrivet is for ;D Just kiddin...
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 09, 2006, 11:39:05 PM
I don't know the word trivet.  Is it what I call a twitch that you put on a horse's nose?  Seems like it's taking tooooooo long for you to get the brace.  Duh, it's custom made for you isn't it?  Definitely no riding before you can walk  ;)
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 10, 2006, 12:30:41 AM
He he, Atrivet is a sedative we use on horses to calm their nerves. :)  I've worked alot in the horse industry so am very used to that sort of stuff.

IT does seem like FOREVER for this brace to come but it was only a week yesterday that I went to get fit for it!!! IT feels like months... Sigh.. oh well, we are on the down side now.. only a few days until it comes now.

I don't think i'll be riding any time soon!!! :( My leg is so useless now, i'm feeling a little.. worried... like there is something more to this than my OS has guessed, or that the damage is more severe than he first thought. I'm doing what I can though and taking care best I can.

Take care
Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 10, 2006, 02:26:37 PM
You could be very correct about your knee, but it's good that you're taking a conservative approach.  If the brace doesn't help, you'll probably need to call the OS again.  My trainer is in a grand prix tomorrow, and she's suffering from a surprise knee pain.  The day after my surgery, she's leaving for the Grand Canyon to hike down for a river rafting trip.  She doesn't even know what she's done to it.  Hopefully her problem just resolves itself.  The tranq that we use most often is Ace.  I keep some in my tack locker for emergencies like a sudden need to travel to the hospital or ????  For light tranq we use a pheromone nasal spray (it's show legal).  I've also resorted to insane assylum drugs for a month of behavior modification.  I know that the vets use short acting stuff for dental work, but I don't know the names.  Hope you have a good weekend.  Guess your husband never gets time off of his work.  Donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 10, 2006, 04:30:38 PM
Ace is a good drug too, but Atrivet is easiest for us to get our hands on. 
:)
I'm headed to the city on Sunday night so if things don't start to look up I might give my OS a call on Monday and see if I can just pop in and have a little chat about this.

I hope your trainers kneepain subsides, that is frustrating.. :(

Adam, my husband gets a decent amount of time off, every second weekend and then when he doesn't get the weekend he gets the monday of that week off. So it's not too bad.. though he still works 60-65 hour weeks, because while the whole world is sleeping.. he's getting up for work at 3:30am.

Anyway.. my knee is being somewhat reasonable today... it's still not right but it's not SO painful as it has been the past few days, it seems to come and go in waves. or something...

Take care, :) and Thanks

Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 11, 2006, 02:23:56 PM
Adam's job doesn't sound so bad now that it's June, but January sounds impossible.  Thanks goodness there are still people like him that are willing to work hard so that the rest of us can enjoy dairy.  Soon it will be your farm that is getting all of his attention.  Good idea about visiting the OS while you're in Halifax.  Yesterday I found that a martingale worked as well as ace on my bad pony  ;D.  I saw the pony sitter, and showed her all of my junk.  She's totally into getting the ponies out for me.  The barn might use them for pony camp with the neighborhood kids.  .  As long as I know that they get out everyday I'll be happy, because one is in a 12 X 12 stall and the other is in a 12  X 24 corral.  I'll look forward to your election stories.  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 12, 2006, 02:48:01 AM
I guess it isn't so bad now that summer is here... because it's almost starting to be daylight at 3:30 am.. but I always wake up when he leaves for work. And I can't go back to sleep until I see through my bedroom curtains and across the road that he's gotten there okay and the parlour lights are on. Then I am free to go back to sleep. ;D a strange but wierd habit of a farm wife. :)

:) Still nursing my knee.. though the swelling has been quite minimal so although the pain hasn't improved.. that has to be a good sign.

Linds
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Post by: donnawanna on June 12, 2006, 06:01:27 AM
Are you able to see the Northern Lights?  Good luck on your trip to Halifax.  Hope the knee doesn't bother you too much.  Yes, it does seem that the reduced swelling is a plus, but we'll keep hoping for a resolution of the pain.  donna
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Post by: Linds on June 12, 2006, 12:16:36 PM
I can't say that i've ever seen the Northern lights here in Nova Scotia. While working in Northern Ontario i've seen them many times. If you are too close to the big city you can't really see them because of the ligh polution cities throw but yes in Northern Ontario at the summer camps where I used to work you could see them.. usually at the end of the summer. THey are lovely.

Hoping for a resolution in pain too... I had a funny sensation this morning, it was sort of like instability that my leg didn't feel in the right place and then sharp, sharp pain in the very front of my shin at the top. :P Yuckers, I don't try to understand this stuff anymore

Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 12, 2006, 01:35:31 PM
A friend of mine went to N.S. to see the fall leaves.  Seems you're surrounded by beauty.  Everything I know about the world seems to come from movies, so I just imagine the waves in "The Perfect Storm."  Regarding your knee=== some of the people that have posted stories about their surgeries are currently in less pain than you are experiencing.  It's good that you're taking a conservative approach, because you're young and you probably will heal, but dang.....  waiting is such a pain (literally). 
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 12, 2006, 08:08:53 PM
Surgery at this point wasn't given to me as an option. It's not that it won't be, but my Surgeon, even though he is sports med is pretty conservative. IT depends on the person, but i'm not a soccer player, or a foot ball player and I don't run anymore because of my other knee problems. PF problems that i've had for 18 years.. so we're going to try this.

It's frustrating and yeah, there is evidently something more going on because, others even htose awaiting surgery don't seem to be struggling as i am. But, we'll see what happens... today was a better day, I managed to get around quite well and even attempted a stair or two on my own, with pain but managed to do it.

Waiting on that brace.. :P

It is lovely here in NS, we are a little piece of land out in the atlantic ocean. I can't imagine not living near the ocean. :)
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Post by: donnawanna on June 12, 2006, 08:41:45 PM
Me too with the ocean.  It makes the weather a bit more temperate.  duh, where I live it's always between 50 and 80 degrees F.  Glad that you're getting around, and I believe that the brace will help with that too.  I waited almost 3 years for surgery, and I'd say that I did get better through the wait.  It's just hard to give up what you enjoy especially when it's summer.  Patience is a virtue...  blah, blah, blah with those cliches.  It's frightening to read some of the stories about people who have had surgeries go wrong.  We'll be back on our horses soon enough.  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on June 14, 2006, 01:33:46 AM
I hear ya on the waiting and I hope your LR and scope will help your knee pain. I struggled for 12 years with my knee problems before I was offered a LR surgery.

Election day was FUN... I love people watching and dealing with people so it's all good.. even the stressful parts.  My DRO told me I was the smoothes Poll Clerk he's ever had, as our poll was counted, balanced, shut down and out the door more than 30 minutes before most and almost an hour before another.  :)  Yay me..

Bye for now
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on June 14, 2006, 02:31:25 AM
Sounds like a great day, and one that you can be proud of!  I saw the OS today, got my Vicodin from the pharmacy, and my handicapped parking pass from the Auto Club.  I'm ready  ;D
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Post by: donnawanna on July 17, 2006, 04:12:12 PM
Hi Linney,
How's the knee? Horse? Farm?
Haven't heard about you for a while.
I saw my ponies this weekend.  Turnouts and baths.  Now I'm exhausted.
Hope you're well!
donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on July 22, 2006, 02:46:30 AM
Hey Donna, thanks for checking in on me. I am glad that you got out to see your Po's... :) Hope you had alot of fun with them... even if it tires you out.
My horse is great, I still do'nt get to see him verry often, but he's out on pasture with a couple of Holstein friends( yes cows ;) )  The farm close date has moved back .. tryring to sort through paper work, there is SO much involved with buying a FARM , rather than just a house. But.. it'll come together... It's probably better anyway because of my knee.
Ahh.. my knee.. YES the joys, honestly I no longer know what to think. Monday will be 10 weeks since I go injured. Things sort of settled down and started to feel better for awhile therer.. BUT not anymore... :( For whatever reason this past week things have really started to go backwards... my quads and my hamstrings are atrophying now.. and it doesn't seem like anything I can do is helping that at all...My knee has become MORE unstable and wobbly, not to mention the pain.. and the RETURN of swelling. :( It's not swollen HUGE but it's puffy and sore.. :(  I am SO frustrated.  I plan on caling my OS Monday.  I'm not sure what i'll say but this isn't cool.  I saw him 8 weeks ago and was lead to believe that things would have started to improve by now.

Anyway.. enough whining from me.

Linds
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: emphatic on July 22, 2006, 05:00:13 AM
Linds,

I hate to say it, but what you're describing sounds like the point where your ACL-deficient knee is showing that it can't cope anymore. The muscles atrophy because the knee is painful and unstable and it's actually a physiological response to shut down the muscles to protect the joint. This, of course, make the instability worse, which causes more pain and swelling... which causes the muscles to shut down... a vicious cycle.

If the knee was going to be able to compensate effectively without the ACL, you probably would have known it by now. Instead, I think it's showing that the deficiency is causing problems. This is a tough point to be at -- if you let it go, you run the serious risk of having the poor knee biomechanics begin to do damage inside the joint, such as breaking down articular cartilage and stressing tendons and ligaments. Severe, debilitating osteoarthritis (over the course of time) is typically the end result.

I would recommend talking to your doctor about a reconstruction. It sounds like you're at the point where you need to seriously consider it.

I wish you all the best in dealing with this... it's a difficult spot to be in.

Meg
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Post by: donnawanna on July 22, 2006, 02:25:55 PM
Meg is my guru!  I believe that Colorado is the center of the sports medicine universe.  It seems difficult to get the best care possible in the quickest fashion no matter whether you have universal health care or health insurance.  Linney you're in a bigger void because of your relation to you OS and his knowledge of your knee history.  If nagging doesn't work, try crying to get his attention.  We all need to get back in the saddle again.  BTW I was reading posts from a guy in Iceland, so I started googling Iceland.  It lead me to believe that I NEED an Icelandic horse.  I want to "tolt" down the trail!  My best to all.  donna
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: Linds on July 22, 2006, 03:06:50 PM
Hey Meg,
thanks for your response, you're basically saying outloud what I think in my head.  I think that i'm going to call my OS on Monday, and if he says that I just need to be more patient, I think I will ask him to refer me to another OS.   I just can't do this anymore... I think ten weeks is plenty to be patient.

Donna.. GET an ICELANDIC!!! :) They Rock, I stayed at a BandB in Cheticamp, Cape Breton , Nova Scotia that Breeds Icelandics and my Mom and I went for a ride. It was FANTASTIC. AND.. THEY ARE SO CUTE! Not too tall, but really strong. I am shopping for anotherr horse, and unfortunately i'm starting to look at Quarter horses, small and strong, an dlooking at Western Saddles too... my coach, has suggested that even when I can get back in the saddle, hacking around in a western saddle will probably be the best way to start.  :( 

I'll let you know what happens when I call my OS on this stuff.

THANKS so much ladies for your help and support

Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on July 23, 2006, 01:14:50 AM
too bad I bond for life.  I'll probably still have my ponies when I'm 70 :-)  Then I'll get an Icelandic
I'm glad that you're going to push for more attention to your knee!
I had a synthetic western saddle for a while, but I couldn't get comfy in it.  I wanted to bend my knee and grip instead of balance.  Your're probably more athletic than I am, so you'll be able to make the transition.  QH are sometimes prone to navicular problems, but many of them are more quiet.  I've had a TB, a running QH, a mustang, a Westphalian/TB cross, my Connemara is 1/4 TB, and my Belgian's mom has TB/QH.  I'll never get another TB, but I'd have to say that both of my QH crosses take a lot of leg.  Horse shopping is a pain.  I found the Connemara on the internet.  It's fun to just google horses for sale.  Kinda like looking for houses.  Hope you're better soon so you can really horse shop.
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Post by: Linds on July 23, 2006, 03:01:01 AM
Hey Donna, i've ridden and coached western, and trained a few  Qh's in my "career" Gosh I sound so old when I say that.  So I will have no problem making the transition to WESTERN, but  I need the horse first ;).  Firecat is definately an englishy horse, and he's getting old...

I am going to trry to get some help for this knee.  So frustrating... i'm beginning to lose hope.

Thanks for your continuing support.

Linney
Title: Re: Horse riding accident.. :( Tonight
Post by: donnawanna on July 23, 2006, 03:22:16 AM
Your knee makes you feel old.  Hope you'll keep us informed about changes.  I was previously hopeful that you were doing well when we hadn't heard from you.  Now we'll hope for some progress.  Gee I'll want to know about your horse hunting too!