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Title: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 14, 2006, 04:13:03 PM
Need to have a moan! Grrrrrrr :o

My left knees original injury was Oct -04 followed by an LR and clean up March 05 which didn't work, am now booked in for TTT fulkersons, that was from an OS apt Jan 20th this year. My meds have been upped to Tramadol as the OA is horrendous.

I spoke to my doctor a few weeks ago who wrote a letter to my OS to try to expediate things but I've discovered today from the admissions office that nothing has come of it and I am still on the routine surgery list which is a 6 month wait. So just over 4 months to go. Grrrrrrrr! I hate the NHS with a passion today! I just want to get things moving as this is all I can think about at the moment.

Has anyone had any  luck in speeding things up?
Thanks for letting me vent!
Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: sarah81 on March 14, 2006, 04:16:35 PM
Hi Hop

Just wanted to say sorry and I can sympathise - NHS waiting lists are a nightmare  >:(

Sarah x
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Nettan on March 14, 2006, 07:11:34 PM
Can't you call yourself and tell how you have it ?
Where I live we have this huge thing called Landstinget..work exactly like NHS...totally bad..when I have called myself I have gotten better dates.
Just a thought. Thinking of you !!

HUGS NETTAN
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Doc79316 on March 14, 2006, 10:34:08 PM
Hey Hop,

It may be worth speaking with your OS's secretary or the waiting list co-ordinator. That's how I got my surgery speeded up. You could ask to go on a cancellation list also. If you tell them you don't need much notice they may be able to slot you in somewhere.

L.x
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: SarahJane on March 14, 2006, 10:49:09 PM
You could also check whether your OS has a shorter list at another Hospital - the recent changes mean that NHS patients can change to other Hospitals ...   Not always possible, but worth a check  (have a look at the Dr. Foster web site)

p.s.   -  I do know how you feel .... Frustrated, angry, distressed etc.   seems like people in the NHS don't 'care' about the effect your knee prob has on your life etc. etc.

Stick with it!
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: bex1708 on March 15, 2006, 10:10:49 AM
Hi Hop

NHS Is so frustrating.  I was told i would have to wait 6 months.  They were going to send me to another local hospital but realised there was noone there that could do my type of surgery.  So......  I bugged the hell out of my specialists secretary saying i needed to know when it was as i had to arrange cover at work.  After a couple of weeks i managed to get a date which was 4 months after i agreed to have the surgery.  Not great but better than 6 months.

Hang in there.  At least you know they are going to help you..... eventually.

Stay safe

Bex
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 15, 2006, 11:15:42 AM
Thank you so much for your suggestions, Laura, Nettan, Sarah, Bex.  ;D Am feeling more positive today. Up and down like a see saw! I'm going to try and get through to my OS secretary first off and see how I get on. Fortunately I still have her number from the last time! Can't remember her name though damn!

Sarah - Good idea about another hospital I hadn't thought of that! Will check it out, although I think because he does private for the nuffield too, I will be out of luck!

Again - thanks everyone - hugs to all of ya x
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 15, 2006, 03:40:59 PM
Hi everyone

Well I called my OS's secretary who said he had received the letter from my doctor but she was unsure as to what his comments were and if he would speed things up or not. The admissions lady in charge of the waiting lists will have it now and she only works mornings so they are going to give me a call tomorrow. Fingers and toes crossed now.

Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: bex1708 on March 15, 2006, 08:43:28 PM
Hi Hop

Keep at em, if they get you scheduled in for surgery that one less phone call they have to take :)

Bex
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 15, 2006, 09:28:04 PM
ive tried foning letters GP everything to get it to go faster. i cant walk most days and im drugged up to my eyeballs on painkillers.  im ruining my degree and my life, i cant work so im useless.  tried explaining this to the hospital, "sorry you'll just have to wait the 6 months" and thats just for an investigative arthroscopy, the doc admitted he wasnt in a position to do anything other than repair the possible meniscus tear, not even look at the tumours or anything!
Charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 15, 2006, 09:37:39 PM
Hi hop
I got told 6 - 10 month wait
wrote the waiting list people a nice letter begging to have it done in july when kids break up - the planned ops office rand me at work 2 days later and fixed the date for 26 june - thay actually said I could have beginning of june if I wanted - might be worth a try to do it that way.

which hosp are you going to?
good luck
anja
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 15, 2006, 09:51:07 PM
Hi Charlotte
Blimey! There's me moaning and your situation sounds worse. I know what it feels like to be in pain all of the time but I suppose I do now know what's wrong. Have you asked your GP to write a letter on your behalf to expediate things? That's where I started, I phoned my GP to up my meds to tramadol and asked him then explaining how it's effecting my life and making me feel so low. I just need to find out what my Os's opinion is cos it's down to him. Don't give up trying, make them listen.

Hi Anja - Good thinking, if nothing comes of what I've tried to do so far I'll try that and if it doesn't work I'll call them every day until they sort it out to shut me up!
Well done for getting your sorted that's a result. I'm going into Southampton General.
Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 15, 2006, 10:02:35 PM
i asked the GP, she said it wont make a difference.  the hospital said it didnt make it urgent.  i know whats wrong, i have synovial osteochondromatosis, so i have tumours in my knee making cartillage and then thats causing locking and pain and collapsing.  i explained i spend alost all my time on crutches and i no longer have a life, and that had i been an animal any loving owner would have me put down, but they dont care.  my uni are just telling me to give up, because i cant study on acupan (i take one and im out like a light, so studying is out of the question, and im groggy for like 24 hours after one painkiller).  i cant work, for the same reasons, but i cant just sit at home in pain doing nothing.  ive scoured the country for someone with experience of this condition (i think theres only half a dozen in the uk) and found a guy at wrightington hospital in wigan, but im paying and going privately, paying £120 plus xrays, then if i need an operation he'll do it on the NHS for me, but it hurries it up a bit.  i waited 6 months to see my previous OS and he said he cant think of anything else to try so i just have to wait and get a knee replacement in a few years (im 19!) ive had this since i was about 10 and they tried removing the loose bodies, and a partial synovectomy, but nothing worked.  so i keep fighting, and my pony and my boyfriend keep me going.
Charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 15, 2006, 10:06:36 PM
Hi Hop

good luck at Southampton - spent  some time there last year - my brother had serious car crash - smashed up knee cap on one leg and had several breaks in other leg plus loads of other little breaks and bruises- he is still not anywhere near being fixed up - but I know they are doing their best there.
He is home now so hopefully will recover faster. A very good friend of mine works as a theatre nurse there. seems like an okay place from where I am looking - but I am not going there for my surgery.
A.
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 15, 2006, 10:28:02 PM
Hi Charlotte
I'll tell you what we'll get your extra cartalidge removed and I'll have some! I had a look at a fre of your last posts to gain an understanding of your condition. Nasty, really rare too which doesn't help. But hey you seem to have found a guy in wrightington
that may be able to offer you the light at the end of the tunnel you so deservedly seek. If he removes your synovial thingy (sorry) will this be an end to it? I read about your pigs (guinea) how cute! Would love to see what the babies look like, I bet they are adorable. So this waiting list is this for an initial consultation with Wigan OS?

Hi Anja
I would like to firsty send well wishes to your brother. Your friend in theatre might see the inside of my knee! Bleugh! Where are you having yours done?

Thanks guys, means a lot. (Ging to bed now, long day, see ya soon)
Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 15, 2006, 10:31:56 PM
Hi hop
Thanks for your good wishes.

I am going to the kent and sussex at hosp in tunbridge wells,kent

going to bed as well - work tomorrow- lucky I like my job!
night all
anja
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 16, 2006, 02:59:01 PM
if you get this extra cartilage removed you can do whatever you want with it! grow it use it keep it in a jar i dont care, i just want it out!  if he removes the synovium it will get rid of it temporarily at least, but it is about 50:50 whether it will come back  or not.  i just want rid of it, i dont care how long i spend recovering if theres a chance it will get better.  i should get an appointment with the OS in wigan in april sometime, but then its 6 months after that for an op if he'll do somehitng.  im a little concerned the other os thought i had a torn meniscus because the symptoms i explained ive had since this whole thing started, so if its torn its probably annihilated by now.  oh well i never wanted a life anyway!  as for the guinea pigs:
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f30/whiskyscruffles/wombleandbubs2.jpg" border="0" alt="Image hosting by Photobucket"></a>
thats the babies
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 16, 2006, 03:05:06 PM
Hi Charlotte

Weeny tiny weeny cute things! (Said in baby language! lol) I want one  ;D (Not allowed boooo!)

April isn't so long away and if when you see him you tell him everything you've told us he might put you on the NHS waiting list as an emergency case thus at least halfing the waiting time. If you tell him how it is and are honest I thnk you stand a good chance.
50:50 odds are ok too, if it does grow back do you know the rate of which it can grow etc? Or is it a subject that is totally out threre?

How is it feeling today?
Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 16, 2006, 03:32:11 PM
hi hop
it can grow back within a few months, of be fine for years before it begins to grow back. to be honest im more worried about it urning cancerous.  theres only like 20 reported cases of it turning cancerous, but then theres only like 20 reported cases of it in children and i had it when i was 10.  so im a little worried.  i know its stupidly unlikely, but if you do get it its a cut off your leg approach, not conservative at all! 
today i was walking into uni and it collapsed on me, then i got to uni and it locked. it locked last night aswell.  its awful, and the painkillers are silly, but theyre the only ones that work.  overall not agood day, but not the worst its been.  bu ti get to go back home to suffolk tomorrow (im at york uni) so i can see my ponny again!
how are you today?
charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 16, 2006, 03:48:43 PM
So all in all your knee has been naughty and rubbish today. Do you use crutches to get about to and during uni?
Also if the C word did occur could you not have a TKR? Would that not remove the offending parts?

What is the name of your pony? I love going home to see my parents they always spoil me it's great. The first thing I do which is a bit cheeky is go and check out the fridge to find what I call 'mum food' yum! Hopefully you will have an really lovely relaxing weekend to recharge your batteries.

 ;)
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 16, 2006, 07:01:17 PM
hi
yeah i have been using crutches, but i have to walk a mile to get to uni every day.  apparently if cancer does develop there is no option other than chop it off, because its in the bone by then and spreading, not just in the knee joint. 
my pony is called Desert Moon,, or Taffie.  my mum doesnt spoil me at all, but my dad does, and theres no nice food in the house either!  and i start work on monday, in a lab, hoping my knee holds up coz its a very good pay for a temp job.
Charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 17, 2006, 10:27:52 AM
Hi Charlotte, anja and anyone else  ;)

Hope everyone is having a good knee day today. I have had some great news this morning, I called the waiting list lady who said she had not received any letter! However she has marked me down as an urgent case anyway so I now have to wait for an assessment hoorah! I was down as July so any time before that will be a bonus! Fingers crossed the assessment comes through quickly. Strange thing though, she said my OS only does half a day a week in surgery!

Desert moon is a lovely name. Good luck with the lab job sounds interesting. How are you feeling today?
Hop
 ;D



Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: sarah81 on March 17, 2006, 11:00:43 AM
Great news Hop  :D
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 17, 2006, 10:26:49 PM
hi hop
today is bad, my painkillers are making me feel very bad.  now going to attempt to understand my MRI scans because my copies came through the post today.

glad to hear you're making progress with the NHS

Charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 18, 2006, 08:24:08 PM
Hi Hop
thats good news
we will prob be spending our rehab on here! as mine is 26/6

Apparently that is not unusual for an OS to have only half to one day in theatre - at our hosp there are about 7 orthopaedic consultants so I suppose if they only have one theatre  / per day then they wont get that much time, but they do operate on a bit of a conveyer belt service - the anaestatist prob spends more time with you than the surgeon.
good luck getting that date
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 18, 2006, 09:36:44 PM
Thanks Anja

I'll be checking my post box every night now in anticipation of the letter coming! Sad eh! What are you having done?

I can't wait to be in recovery, just want to get it over and done with, I hae the waiting!

Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 19, 2006, 12:13:15 PM
Hi Hop
I am having a TKR on my right leg.
What is a fulkerson and LR?
Anj
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 19, 2006, 01:06:09 PM
Hi Anja

Hope you are having a nice lazy Sunday. Have a look at this link at the animations for LR Lateral Realease and Tibial Tuberccle Transfer (Fulkersons is a type of TTT) It shows TKR too.
Click on I agree then knee and then the different types of surgery.

http://www.kneehippain.com/patient/animations.html

Hop
 ;D
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 19, 2006, 07:11:37 PM
hi hop
had a look , so how long do you have to be in hospital and then how long rehab - is it NWB for any time?
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 19, 2006, 08:03:13 PM
Hi Anja

I'm not totally sure as to what the reocovery etc will be like yet as when I saw my OS the last time and he said this is what I have to have done I was so upset that I didn't take anything in and didn't ask any questions, Ijust wanted to get out and have a fag!!! I do remember him saying about an immobilizer and a brace adn being in hopsital for at least 3 days and not being able to drive for some time. From what I have read on here different OS's have different protocals in terms of NWB, but probably about a month ish?? I know it sounds sick but I can't wait to get into hospital! Can't wait to be able to walk without pain, and hopefully I will be able to bend and get myself up off the floor. NOt walking like I have pooed myself will be a bonus!! Tee Hee

Have you had much done before? What's brought you to TKR?
Hop

Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 19, 2006, 08:11:11 PM
sorry hop gotta go for now - getting those looks telling me that i am being anti social - got family round - be back later
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: foxpot on March 23, 2006, 05:34:04 PM
i know how you are feeling hop.....I have been waiting since september 20th for a half knee joint replacement and will be having it done on april 13th....thats a month over the 6 month wait....hopefully you wont have to wait much longer than the 6 months....

foxpot :)
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 23, 2006, 10:15:33 PM
Hi Hop
I am soooo sorry - totally forgot to come back to you.
Basically I had total rupture of acl and tore all the cartalidge in my right knee when I was 18 - I was at the district police training centre doing gymnastics - haven't done that since!

Had the option of having acl replaced using carbon fibre - but was strongly advised not to as I was still growing! - so had all the cartalidge removed as it was so badly damaged - had that done over 2 ops - open surgery -apparently they didn't do keyhole back then!so have 2 x 3 inch scars either side of my knee - it used to give way without warning.

built up muscles big time and continued with police career and sport - county swimming and cross country (one half marathon!)
Unable to do anything sportwise now - other than upper body or swimming as long as dont use right leg - grade 4 arthritis now - had the knee cleaned out a few times - now having tkr on 26/6.  OMG so scared but would do it right now given the chance - having some serious trouble walking/standing - the slightest 'wrong' move and it makes me squeal! dont mean to comes out - very painful to drive as well - feel that I am coming to the end of my knee very rapidly - actally getting quite stressed as can't seem to get on top of pain/not able to prevent hurting myself. Unfortunately my financial circumstances are such that I have to continue working - although my husband has this idea that we could survive - wot no new shoes/handbags/clothes/makeup - no chance lol
take care and keep in touch
anja
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 24, 2006, 02:32:43 PM
Hi Foxpot
Good luck with your surgery on April the 13th, what are you having done? Waiting sucks eh! Wish I could go in tomorrow and get it over with. Let us know how you are getting on?

Hi Anja
How you doing? Grade 4 ouch! My grade 3 feels bad enough! I know what you mean about the driving and squealing. I walk vcery strangely as it hurts and is so unstable. I have to be careful not to twist at all or big ouch! So it's the gymnastics eh!
I did my first disolcation in a ballet exam but I think mine was largely to do with gymnastics too, I used to train 5 times a week. (Passed my coaching exam too) I don't / can't do any of that wither now. I have been meaning to go swimming as I love it (qualified lifeguard too) but am so scared of falling over and hurting myself! My other half said he'd take me so I can use him as a crutch! I can't believe you did half a marathon with no cartalidge! Just think at the end of June you'll have a brand new non hurting shiny knee. What a result. It's just a shame we have to go through all the pain to get there.
With regards to driving... Is it your right or left leg, if left, automatic car perhaps?
A life without the necessities NO WAY. (shoes, make up etc tee hee)
How is it feeling how are you feeling at the moment?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 24, 2006, 06:31:32 PM
Hi everyone!
Its looking promising with the private health care.  doc foned me today asking if i can do next saturday, 12.30!  i said YES.  its a 4 hour drive each way, so im hoping its worth while.  only thing is for the last year and a half, whenever my knee was bad or i was feeling down, my boyfriend was there to help, but its my parents taking me up to wigan and my mum wont let my boyfriend come.  she said he'll get in the way.  when last time i went to see an OS, i said about two words, she just wouldnt shut up, my boyfriend just held my hand, nothing else.  i said i want to go in on my own and she said she needs to be there.  i want my boyfriend to come and if anyone is coming into the consultation with me its my dad, but mum wont even let my boyfriend tag along and wait outside.  I cant believe it.  My boyfriend and I were discussing marriage and were hoping to get engaged soon, but my mum wont let him come along, but he has more right to be ther than she does!  i cant make her understand
charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: foxpot on March 24, 2006, 07:22:38 PM
Hi Foxpot

Good luck with your surgery on April the 13th, what are you having done?


I am having a unicompartmental knee joint replacement on my right knee, I had my left knee done in feb 05, what are you waiting to have done?

xx
foxpot
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 25, 2006, 01:40:09 PM
Hi Charlotte
With regards to your appointment surely it's your decision as to who goes with you? It's not your mum's knee it's yours and if your boyfriend is the person who you want to be with then that's your decision. Don't let your mum take over. I can understand her motherly concern, she's your mum and that's what mum's do. Explain to her how you feel rationanlly, she loves you I'm sure you can make it right. The most important thing is you have the appointment that you have been looking forward to, this could be the start of something really good. This OS os the one who could help, focus on the positives.
Hop x

Hi Foxpot - What does the unicompartmental part mean? I'm having a TTT and laterla release, was changed to an urgent patient last week so hopefully it won't be too much linger.

Hi Anj
How are you doing?

Hope you are all having a good knee day.
Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: foxpot on March 25, 2006, 03:29:22 PM

Hi Foxpot - What does the unicompartmental part mean?

it means I am having a half knee replacement rather than a full one




I'm having a TTT and laterla release,

what does TTT and latela release mean?
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 25, 2006, 03:43:53 PM
Hi Fox Pot

TTT stands for Tibial Tubercle Transfer also know as a femoral osteotomy, the verson I'm havein is called a Fulkersons named after the doctor who pioneared it I think.
Click on this link, then I agree then knee. It shows animations of that and the Lateral release.
http://www.kneehippain.com/patient/animations.html

It also shows a full knee replacement but not the version that you are having. Have you had knee problems for a while? What's brought you to this point?

Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 25, 2006, 07:58:17 PM
Hi hop
hope you are having a good weekend -do you have an op date? - being lazy not reading through above again.
To be quite honest I am having a horrible one - not only have I managed to put 3lb back on but my knee hurts sooo much - too many days at work - my own fault for agreeing to help my boss out - maybe regretting it now. Have just eaten huge bar of choc - shouldnt have done it - think gonna go back to the fags - have put on over 2 stone since gave up at new year!!! - Go on holiday on Thurs which will do my knee so much good then think will have to go to weight watchers (with fags in pocket lol) must lose that excess again before op - can give up fags again  ::)
anja
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 25, 2006, 08:21:21 PM
Dont go back to the fags!!!!! dont do it, better too heavy than poison yourself with that!!! the weight will come off when your knee recovers.  Maybe take it a bit easier on the work though.  And the more you feel guilty about eating chocolate the more you'll want.  so dont feel guilty!
Charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 25, 2006, 08:35:45 PM
Hi Anja
That’s a hard one about the fags. I have given up a few times and the same thing has happened to me with the weight gain! Have you tried substituting fags and chocolate with say sugar free gum? Try to find another way. You’ll kick yourself if you start smoking again. The first week of giving up is so hard, you’ll have to go through that again.  With regards to weight watchers, have you tried it before? I couldn’t stick to a diet if I tried! This year I decided to make a concentrated effort to think about what I put in my mouth. I still eat what I want but smaller portions and more veg than meat, wine instead of beer. I’ve lost just over a stone, it’s coming off slowly but hey I don’t care how long it takes as long as it stays off!
Great news that you are going on holiday, where are you going, how long etc? I’m slightly envious!

Hi Charlotte
How are you doing today?

Hop
x

Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 25, 2006, 08:37:52 PM
hi charlotte - just feeling very fat and full after choccie bar ;D hubbies fault for not being here to stop me - he went out at 5 am - still not back - on call catering equipment engineer(electrician/corgi gas) Think he is at lakeside now , trouble is already has 3 calls for tomorrow - clocks go forward tonight - poor bugger wont get much kip.  Going to Gambia Thurs - cant wait - might go parasending - told the kids how easy it is but long time since I have done it - seem to remember it was easy landing ;D  perhaps will let them go first. will try to keep off fags dont want to have them but need to sort it out.
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 25, 2006, 08:48:44 PM
hi hop
you be very envious!! lol oh I cant wait - we booked it last july when my daughter was in Thailand - it is her 18 th birthday friday and we knew she didnt want a party and that summer hols was out because of my op - she is going to uni in sept so we wanted a family holiday before she went. only going for a week. have been topping up my tan on my sunbed!

have done weightwatchers before - very successful while you stick to it like any diet ;D

and yes I know the theory very well about eating less just have No wilpower - was okay a week ago but thing the old pain chasing has got on top of me.

Lucky you mentioned wine - forgot I had put a bottle in the freezer at 6 - nearly frozen solid - will have to drink it now. - lager is actually better than wine for calories
ange
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 25, 2006, 09:29:28 PM
Hey Anj
Kenya! Wow, that's will be amazing. Are you going on safari? What a wonderful present for your daughter. Certainly more memorable than a party!
My fiance and I are getting married next year and want to go abroad alone to do it so am looking forward to that.
We would have liked to have done that this year, but I can't before my op because of pain etc and think I'll be in rocovery for a while, but it's certainly something to really look forward to. I should have lost the weight I want to loose by then too!
I hope you have a wonderful time. ;)

Hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 25, 2006, 09:31:18 PM
gambia hop
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 25, 2006, 09:40:34 PM
Hi hop
no we are going to gambia not kenya.
dont know what there is to do yet - we will decide once we get there - there is a monkey sanctuary which i would like to visit so will have to wait and see.
had big plans for a trip into the sahara last summer but it got cancelled because it was too hot - the tour companies health and safety intervened - so will wait till we get there this time.

Congratulations on your engagement and wedding - do it here and have a honeymoon! - we got married 2 years ago and had big church/golf club reception/jamaican honeymoon - bloody fantastic -- my brother in law gor married in st lucia just before us and have not stopped moaning since they came to our wedding wishing they had done it the traditional way - they had a blessing/reception when they came back and needed another break after all that - if you go abroad make sure you have a few days to chill and catch up when you get back - we went straight back to work having had 3 weeks away - hard work

very well done with the weight - feel like you should have a glass of this wine ;D it was like a slush puppy wine!
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 25, 2006, 09:55:30 PM
Don't know what made me say Kenya! oops!  Sounds fab, monkey sanctuary, how cool. You will have a lovely tan!
We have both been married before and had the traditional thing. We really want to get married alone, just the two of us. We're going to both wear white linen and make it very simple. I can't wait to be his wife.
(shall I pass you the sick bucket lol!!!) We actually though of Jamaica amongst other places, there are too many places to choose between. We'll have a bit of a bash when we get back probably in the bar of the building we live in. (Old converted hotel)

Pass over a glass of slush puppy wine flavour, sounds lovely! I'll get the cheese and biscuits!!

Hop
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Post by: UK Girl ! on March 25, 2006, 10:47:27 PM
nearly went to bed then hubbie came back so need to give him time to chill - both at work at 8 am and the stupid clocks go forward!!!

Jamaica was beautiful - bit of a funny place though as you cant really go off resort unless organised trip - but still had fab time - dont go on one of those tyres on the back of a speed boat though - omg biggest mistake ever - plays havoc with knees - i came off it crying my eyes out! - brilliant waters for scuba and snorkelling if you're into that.

the next carribbean place i want to go to is aruba.
must go now coffee and bed!
night
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: foxpot on March 26, 2006, 12:12:09 PM
***Have you had knee problems for a while? What's brought you to this point?****

i have a genetic conditon and basically without being too graphic my kneecaps dislocated out of their sockets....I had a procedure called a roux goldwaith done a couple of years ago but while it did help I still needed more surgery....I had no choice as i was told I would be in a wheelchair in 18 months if i did not have the surgery and the reason they have given me a half knee is that a full knee only lasts 15 years and am 44 so will be needing 2 full new knees in the next 15 years, I have a web page that goes into detail about my condition if you would like to look at it...

xxx
foxpot

www.freewebs.com/marshwriggle
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 26, 2006, 06:00:51 PM
OMG foxpot
have just seen your website and your weightwatchers bit - flip girl you must be annorexic - I havent weighed 9 stone since i was aboy 12 years old!!!
how tall are you? - think gonna have to def get back to WW after hols - trouble is dont like the leader in our town - very self righteous - makes me feel like I am bad even when I am good - last time I went lost 7lb in the first week! yes thinking now really should do it. my darling children bought me a beach bag and filled it with my fave things - marzipan ,lindt raspberry and aussie liquorice!!! ;D ;D ;D hehe

 ;Dmy knee trouble is just from injuries when 18 - ruptured acl and tore all cartalidge - just got worse over years - grade 4 arthriris which is eroding top of shin bone apparently - dont know too much detail - had two choices - fusion or tkr - simple. - hoping they come up with something new in the meantime - I am 43 - and the youngest person my OS has given tkr - so he promised to make it his best ever piece of work- hope he has a very good day - I do like him though and know a lot of people that have been under his knife including my 15 yr old who had acl reconstruction
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: foxpot on March 26, 2006, 08:36:11 PM
OMG foxpot
have just seen your website and your weightwatchers bit - flip girl you must be annorexic - I havent weighed 9 stone since i was aboy 12 years old!!!

you say all the right stuff:-)
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 26, 2006, 08:42:18 PM
Hey Anj - Will remember the tip about the doughnut on the back of a boat although I would love to have a go!

Hi Foxpot - Have just been on your sire, cool. Loved the poems, bless ya. How long ago did you go to Malta? My parents used to take me there, I loved it. Really friendly and crystal clear waters. How's them knees today?

Hop
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Post by: UK Girl ! on March 26, 2006, 10:00:15 PM
hey Hop
DONT DO IT!

think will def do the parasending though as would prob be frowned on after tkr.  Have had to take a vow to totally repect new joint - quite understandable.
anj
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 27, 2006, 01:58:47 PM
NOw im feeling worse, 9 stone, you must be happy.  im like 9 1/2 and the doc said lose more, he said i should be about 8 stone, maybe a little more, but then im only 5'2"!i think if i did get any less than 9 stone i would be very ill.  but all depends on your heoght and build, and have to remember that muscle is heavier than fat, so i say im just all muscle, and yes muscle does wobble!
I try to keep positive
charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 27, 2006, 09:30:28 PM
Hi charlotte
cconfused me thinks - have not been 9 stone since I was about 12. Got another  5 stone on since then - need to be about 12 so 2 to come off - I am nearly 5'10 so can carry 12 off easily - thats only 28lb! there its easy - hee hee not. will concentrate on it when back from hols - will have about 13 weeks to sort myself out so if I aim for 2lb a week I will nearly be there. - why is it that when I put it like that it makes sense. - gonna ban chocolate,biscuits.cakes and wine - thar will prob equate to 5lb a day!  lol  dont see how you can be overweight at 9.5 stone - 8 stone would just be so unhealthy.  I have to confess that when I go under 12 stone people say that I look ill - that is actually where I feel that I look good. - and I am very muscular ;D actually do weight lifting at work every day - just stocking up the fruit and veg dept keeps me fit - and cheaper than the gym.
take care
anja
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 29, 2006, 12:19:23 PM
Hi Anj, foxpot and Charlotte

I hope you are all having a good knee day today. So Anj tomorrow's the day, flying off to Gambia. How exciting.
Another reason for it to be a great day, Charolttes OS appointment. Everything is crossed for ya girl.

Foxpot - For us at least it means it's almost the weekend! lol
With regards to your conversations about weight I'm not far off from you Anj, I'm 6 feet tall and 2 stone overweight now. I too have decided to give up smoking, not on the day of surgery as planned but as soon as the 200 duty free's that I have are gone. I'm going to ask my doctor to write me a prescription for some patches. I figured it is more sensible to do it before hand because it's supposed to less risky going under if you don't smoke. Fingers and toes crossed. I feel sorry for my fiance though cos I know I'm going to be a right cow!! Am tempted to phone the admissions office again today as it's almost 2 weeks since I called the last time and was made an urgent case. Don't want to harrass them but really want a date. I had a dream last night that I got a call saying my surgery was this Thursday, very surreal! Not that I'm obsessing or anything, lol !!!

Sending you all a hug.
Hop  ;D
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 29, 2006, 12:20:31 PM
Sorry Charlotte, it's Saturday isn't it, not Thursday! Doh
 :P
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on March 29, 2006, 09:40:16 PM
Hi hop,charlotte and foxpot

just having a final check in now that all the packing is done - got a glass of wine and well chilled!
Hope you are all having a good day - right now my knee is crap but I have just had 10 days at work - not to be reccommended - but it doesnt matter as tomorrow I will be in a much warmer place for a while and that really does help.

Hop - this giving up smoking bit is not easy - I am having about 5 a day - whoops - just I know that I really will want a ciggie with my cocktails! so when I get back will get on the patches - again - have some already - must admit to buying them - my doctor knows me well and he tries to sit there quite seriously but knows that when I get to the pub........... he was at my wedding and gave me the evil eye when I was looking all glamorous - with fag in hand!!!  Good luck to you - trouble is that I only put all this weight on when I stopped smoking - so need to concentrate hard - my husband smokes which doesnt help - we can but try.I keep saying that I need a job that doesnt involve food - to easy to have that little bit - wont do any harm! Not much - apparently you only put on a lb a day - so I am lucky that I havent put on 90lbs! lol

Charlotte - your appt is on 13th April isnt it?

Right going now - got to get up at 4.30 am so just got to check other mail
take care while I am away - will have a cocktail for all of you on my daughters birthday (18) OMG - think I will have mixed emotions that day - my little girl has grown up! - might be an idea for us both to have a luggage tag attached so we get back to the right hotel. lol

take care
anj

Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on March 31, 2006, 09:49:12 AM
Hi all
the appt is tomorrow (saturday 1st april) so im a little nervous and excited.  got everything prepared, debating whats best to wear.  trousers and take them off, or my long dress thing (not fancy at all) and then i can just roll it up/down for him to see my knee? not sure.  think i might go with the dress, dont feel quite so exposed then.  i know theyre looking at he knee, but when they insist on lifting your leg in the air and twising it at all angles asking if it hurts (hell yes!) i feel a lot less exposed if im at lest a little covered. 
ill update you tomorrow with how it goes.

charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 31, 2006, 10:17:45 AM
Hi Charlotte

One more sleep until you see your Knee guru! Hoorah! I will be keeping everything crossed for you. When I go to OS appointments I usually wear jogging bottoms with boxer shorts underneath so I'm decent! I do the same for PT too. I think it's only fair on my OS after all he didn't sign up to be a gynaecologist!  ;)

Before I have my next op I'm going to cut down the outside of the bad legs seam and sew in a couple of buttons so they only have to go over one leg, under my bottom and then I can button them up without having to pull them up over the poorly leg! I thought I'd do the same with an old pair of jogging bottoms but on the bad side cut the leg off too so that side is the button up short thing! Hope that made sense!
 I'll send you an email later to catch up.
Hop x
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on March 31, 2006, 11:04:39 AM
REALLY REALLY REALLY hate the NHS today! Have just spoken to the admissions office again. I spoke to her 2 weeks ago when she told me I would be marked down as an urgent patient. Well nothings changed! She sounded really stressed!

In the meantime my doctor has received a response from my OS asking if it is an appointment that needs expediating or the surgery! Doh! MOre time wasting.

Apparentely my OS works half a day in surgery a week. He is off because of the bank holiday at Easter and then the following 2 weeks after that too for training or something. So that's another month gone and obviously there are people ahead of me.
She said the best she can do is to get me assessed and then I could possibly go in if someone cancels. How long it will take for that to come through I don't know.

This is causing me real problems at work. They need to know when I won't be here as there is no one to cover my position (I run a department) also I'm desperate to talk to my OS to get an indication of his protocal as have also just discovered my work only pay 10 days sick a year! So I'll have to use my 20 days holiday and then go onto statutory sick pay £66 per week if I need more time to recover.

I think I'm just going to stop calling them and just wait and see what happens and just try to stop thinking about it. It would  easy to not think about it if it didn't hurt so bloody much. Foots gone now, covered in eczema cos of the pain meds.
Rant rant rant rant rant rant. Going for a cigarette!!
Sorry
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Little Ally on April 01, 2006, 08:09:28 AM
Know exactly how you feel!! I phoned the admissions people yesterday because I hadn't heard about my upcoming surgery. I was told that the funding had run out and everybody now has to wait a further 6 months to 1 year!! What the hell do I do now!!!

ally xx
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Elly on April 01, 2006, 12:02:30 PM
hello, sorry to hear your having a frustrating wait - you'll get there in the end.

Just a word about eczema - when I first saw the OS my eczema was slightly flared up and the physio told me to try and get rid before the surgery. This is because if you have broken skin it increases infection risk, so if you are an elective case they may put off surgery until your skin is better.

I know it's hard and worse if your stressed or because of medication - I've had it forever and nothing ever completely cleared it up until I changed from a cream to an ointment, which was like a magic cure for me!

Hope you feel better soon  :)
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 01, 2006, 05:36:21 PM
Hi

Ally that sucks, I'm so sorry to hear that you have to wait for such a long time. Can you not been seen somewhere else? I was told that hospitals get fined now if they lkeep apatient waiting for loger than 6 months. This is why people sometimes go to private hospitals for treatment cos it's cheaper for the trust to pay for private treatment than the fines they would receive. Or something like that. I hope your situation is resolved.

Thanks for the advice Elly I'll work on getting it sorted. Wish I coule wake up and it was a few months later! Guess I shouldn't wish my life away though eh.
Hope everyones having a good knee day'
Hop  ;D
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: smeagol on April 01, 2006, 08:13:13 PM
Hi all
sorry to hear everyones having such a bad time, im now on the dreaded NHS waiting list for an arthroscopy, yay.  i mean great that theyre doing something, bad about the waiting. 
i heard too that they have to keep within the 6 months now or send you private or elsewhere. 

as for eczema, i suffer with it to varying extents, but i was recently given like an intensive moisturiser to use as well as hydrocortisone that i have for when its bad.  the moisturiser catches it before it gets bad, and i have a bath/shower stuff too.  cetraben cream and cetraben emollient.  really really good.  i went from bleeding hands and arms to a little bit of dry skin in a week.  its well worth it, but its prescription only i think.  maybe ask at the pharmacy or gp.

charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Little Ally on April 02, 2006, 09:27:06 AM
Hi!

I only spoke to the lady at the end of the phone, who seemed to take great pleasure in telling me the wait was longer and the funding had run out. If I have to wait I have to wait, my only concern is I will have no one to keep a check on how my knee is doing.

My PT discharged me at christmas because he said there was nothing more he could do and I needed an operation to fix my knee. So really there is no one to check on it. I had a fall last week and a strange lump has appeared on the side of my knee, but who do I tell. My NHS doctor has no obvious contact point and my GP sucks. I'm really not sure what to do!!??

Ally xx
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 02, 2006, 04:48:25 PM
Hi Ally

Have you thought about changing GP's? Alos your OD must have a secretary that you can contact. Don't let the system leave you in terms of having no one tha you can contact. Take control of the situation. Do you know what it is that you have to have done?
Keep your chni up darlin'

Hop x
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Little Ally on April 02, 2006, 06:07:22 PM
Hiya Hop!

I had a LR done in November 2005. My knee dislocates alot! It has a mind of it's own. I'm due to have key hole surgery first to assess how much joint is left, they have said that if there is enough they will do a realignement operation. My stoopid knee has worn away much of the cartilage and I have OA. Yeah for me, I'm 29 and my nan has better knees than me!!! She is 90!

Anyway, I gonna make an appointment with the GP tomorrow and start making a fuss, not really in my nature, but I'm tired of all this!!! Thanks for the advise!!

Ally xx
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: j_smi001 on April 02, 2006, 07:10:23 PM
Sorry to hear your bad news but hang in there.  I have been around the same cycle of hopes raised and dashed and even the 'next financial year' one.  I suppose I am lucky as I have my op scheduled.  I know it is difficult and all I can do is empathise at your situation.  I just kept thinking of all the things I could do as opposed to the things I couldn't (like drive a car) but I had great support from friends who have ferried me about when absolutely necessary.  There is always someone worse off and probably needs surgery sooner and your time will come.  I started this journey in July 2004 and have surgery this Friday - God willing.  Take care and keep taking the meds and doing your physio exercises.  Jak
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: sheri l on April 02, 2006, 07:45:05 PM
Hi Hop... I am no longer living in the UK but I had my daughter at an NHS hospital and u have my full sympathy.
Although the staff were super there just werent enough clever people to go round and we could just rant on and on...
Hang in there...

Hi Charlotte just wanted to say that I REALLY do understand how u feel re uni... I am working and doing a degree part time plus I have two teenagers and my husband travels all the time.... when I injured my knee skiing earlier this month I thought...HOORAY time off to get a few assignments done.  Well really. What a joke.  In between the pain, frustration and indignity of it all I am now suffering GUILT because I just cant seem to get on with it.  By the time I have got myself up, kids out the door, loaded the washing machine, emptied the dishwasher, dragged myself up the stairs, removed my leg brace, showered, got my exercises done,brace back on I AM IN A STATE OF COLLAPSE.  And then I remember breakfast... so the nervewracking descent down the stairs, empty the washing machine, change the cat litter.... then I remeber that I have left my mobile upstairs.... and so it goes!
Of course I have been booked off work and whenever anyone speaks to me they say "oh isnt it great, you can get so much work done now.... i grit my teeth and bit my tongue.  For goodness sake.  When I am not in pain, overwhelmed by painkillers/muscle relaxants, I am using the remaining energy I have just to stay positive and polite.
So reading your few lines made me feel SO much better. Thank you. Bless you.  I understand.
Regards Sheri L
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 02, 2006, 08:01:19 PM
Hi Sheri

Thanks for your post, I hate being a moaning cow but sometimes you just nned to get it out of your system, plus it stops me from dumping it all over my fiance and family day in day out. None of us are having a great time but I'm a firm believer that there is always light at the end of the tunnel. It may not be a recovery for everyone but many other things can make us happy, right. I'm sorry you are struggling so much too. Day to day chores etc that most people take for granted can again for some of us feel like climbing a mountain! Stiil a bad day makes the good days seam great. Kee  ;)p your chin up girl

Jak- Good luck on Friday, I hope it all goes great for you and that your recovery is as pain free and uneventful as possible. Let us know when you get home how you are doing.

Ally - Don't forget to make those phone calls this week.

Happy knee days to you all.
Hop  ;D
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: UK Girl ! on April 07, 2006, 12:00:56 PM
Hi everyone

I'm back! :(
Had a great time - quite brown - and several days where I didnt have to take any pain meds!!!! very relaxing. Went on safari - great fun until had to go pee pee in the bush! - can't crouch very well at all .lol.

had one bad day - we were in the sea - big wave came over and thought I was caught up in seaweed - lifted my leg out and this strange stuff was wrapped around my ankle - blue strands with little spikes - started to sting and my husband tried pulling it off - got it round his wrist - by now burning very painful stinging - got the stuff off - hubbie bas shaking his hands and scraping it off his wrist - tragedy - his wedding ring flew into the sea - never to be found ! (not even married 2 years yet!- does that mean we are divorced?lol - got to laugh or will cry) but we got stung by portugese man of war jelly fish - OMG dont want that again - have pretty patterns on ankle now - look like tracks - the stings were excruciatingly painful - lifeguard treated them with vinegar - since found out that was totally wrong! - luckily had taken loads of anti histamine with us, but never had anything sting that bad - it was my bad knee leg and the leg ached and the pain went into lymph nodes lasted a couple of hours - we both got quite worried then it all went and just have marks left - and swollen ankle - pretty scary and lucky as know that people have died from these stings. later that day we went back to the beach and there were hundreds of them washed up on the beach - they are poisonous for several hours after being washed up - and have tendrils up to 40 ft long - no wonder we didnt see them!
might have to have another wedding/blessing for new ring!! lol party?

hope you are all okay will read through posts later - only got in at 4am today
take care
anja

Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 07, 2006, 04:32:11 PM
Hi Anj

You're back hooray! Glad you had a good time darlin' although the man of war experience sounds rather scary! It had to be your bad leg eh!  :o  Bloody typical! Loosing the ring too, what a bummer.  >:( At least it only took your hubs ring though, could have been a lot worse, they're nasty creatures!
 
What was the safari like? I would so love to do that. Did you daughter have a good birthday?
Things here have been pretty good, I'm giving up smoking today, have a perscription from the doctor for patches to pick up tonight and I also heard on Monday this week that I have my pre assessment appointment on the 21st April! So chuffed! Half way there now! They said they needed to do this before giving me a date so hopefully I will get sliced before July!  ;D  ;D  ;D

Have half an hour of work left, am looking forward to my Friday night few glasses of wine, yum! 

Good to hear from you.
Hop x
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: UK Girl ! on April 07, 2006, 06:53:34 PM
Hey Hop
good to hear from you
Emz birthday was great - except she opened her present from chris and myself - duh - the bloody jewellers got the wrong ring!!!! - took it back today and went elsewhere to order the same one - they have said it will take another 8 weeks though!

The safari was great, we got picked up on swiss army trucks - bit of a struggle to get on - luckily they had a ladder for us cripps who couldnt jump on and off! the trucks had much more leg space than the plane and more comfortable (def. gonna upgrade when we go to egypt(not until 2008 for sons 18th)
We went to a place where an old boy (95) did palm tree tapping  - palm wine and fire water - both not really to our taste - yuck!

then went to a school which was really a charity event - spent quite some time there being shown around - terrible poverty then came the inevitable donation bit! They have to pay £100 a year to go to school there - so we put some in - unfortunately the rep said that we wouldnt need much money for the day so couldnt do too much but took the address and will prob send books for their new library- think we have more books at home then they have for the whole school!

Then we went to a place called paradise beach - fantastic place - had lunch there and lovely swim - mind you the waves were so strong kept getting knocked over-lol- not knee friendly really.
After that had some local tribes men do their dancing/snake in mouth routine! yuck. Then went to a local fruit wine distillery and just had to keep sampling the booze - very nice!
After that it was the long drive home - and saw monkeys in the tops of palm trees.
BUT everywhere that we went there were children running out at the trucks all saying  hello hello hello hello - drove ya mad all begging for sweets, money, school materials etc  - there were just children every corner you turned - quite dangerous- you are not allowed to throw things from the trucks as a child got killed 3 yrs ago running out to a truck.
excellent day!
The next day we went on a cruise up the river Gambia - lovely and relaxing - did some fishing and swimming and got VERY sunburnt!

The day before we left we went on a birds and breakfast trip on the river Gambia - left at 5.30 am!! Mad. but went on a little rowing boat- how do I get involved in these things - saw lots of local birds-parrots etc really interesting. Horrible drive back in mimi bus through the largest town in the Gambia - and it was market day.Their roads are mainly dirt tracks- the best roads are like our B roads.


Now to you! :)  Good luck with the patches - have to confess - had quite a few on hols :-X oops - back to work monday so will give up again- cant face the lectures.
What is your pre assesment appointment? is that like where they do the bloods etc before your op and discuss anastaesia etc? havent had this mentioned - just assumed that I would go in the week before for this appointment - maybe your op is gonna be sooner that you dare hope for (fingers crossed)
You should be home now - enjoy that wine and have one for me - official first day of healthy eating - had to watch hubby have fry up and daughter had fish n chips at lunch when we went out - I had tuna/cue sandwich :(
going to prep the dinner now - salad!

Hope you have a good weekend
anj
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: smeagol on April 07, 2006, 09:07:01 PM
Hello all!
Had a bit of a bad day yesterday, was in a car crash.  as you can imagine it hasnt done my knee any good whatsoever as the airbag hit my legs as well as the rest of me.  face is a bit scuffed from the airbag and the blisters on my face look infected, lovely.  not doing too badly overall though, could have been a lot worse, at least the driver was driving well.  my face looks a hell of a mess and i cant walk without crutches and the pain in my knee is unbelievable. 
charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: UK Girl ! on April 07, 2006, 09:48:14 PM
oh Charlotte - so sorry to hear that - car crashes are very scary (had a couple) make sure you take good care of yourself - might be a blessing in disguise and get the knee sorted more quickly - might be worth making the most of the situation - getting the knee done and maybe some compensation to help when you are recovering - I dont like it where everyone wants to sue someone but it could help you in the future.
take care and keep us updated.
anja
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 08, 2006, 02:42:38 PM
Charlotte you poor love, what on earth happened? Thank god you're ok (apart from being hurt of course) Your poor knee, another battering eh! Don't worry about your face, I'm sure it will heal. Rest up and chill out. Sending you a cuddle
(http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:f3Arc1eCz07PzM:www.firstpeople.us/pictures/bear/Polar_Bears/1600x1200/Polar_Bear_Cuddle-1600x1200.jpg)

Hop x
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: UK Girl ! on April 08, 2006, 02:59:54 PM
hey hop- hols update reply 74 ;D

I wanna go back to the sunshine!
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: smeagol on April 08, 2006, 09:09:21 PM
Hi Hop
Crash wasnt good, We were coming round a corner and a car pulled out of a junction right in front of us, couldnt stop in time.  hit it in the side, airbag went off, so friction burns all over my face and it came down so low it hit my knee.  im still in a lot of pain now, my knee isnt getting any better.  i think my face is healing ok, but i might have a scar on my nose.  could have been a lot worse though.

So hows everyone else doing?

charlotte
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 10, 2006, 09:25:11 PM
Hi guys

Charlotte I thnk we should take a leaf out of Anja's book at take a trip to Gambia, it sounds wonderful. (Read your post in awe!) I could really deal with laying in the sun by the sea! I haven't had a cigarette for 24 hours now and am reallt stuggling! Arghhhhhh! Want to do it so badly though am going to try and stick with it.

How is your face and knee today Charlotte? That must have been so scarey.
Lets dream Anja - give us update number 75 with more stories.

Hugs Hop  ;D

Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: UK Girl ! on April 10, 2006, 09:37:51 PM
Hi Hop

sadly came back to earth with a big bump today - had to go to work - 10 hrs on the old pins - OMG I ache like mad - sat down for half an hour-and now have totaly seized. My husband is actually suggesting that we should book another holiday - cloud cuckoo land - he forgets that we wont be able to survive on £66 SSP !! Think he is the dreamer. He wants to go in Dec. - but just too busy at work then. - However have got the brochures to plan ahead - hee hee - April 2008 (sons 18th) want to do Nile cruise/week on beach 8) It is amazing how just looking at a brochure can cheer you up!

just working till 2 pm tomorrow - got all that lovely holiday gear to iron!! see its not all fun having a holiday.

When I went into work one of the girls had made a jelly fish (blue peter style) and hung it over the tills in the shop!! - you wont believe how many people I had to explain myself to - I cant climb that high to get it down and my boss says its got to stay for a week !! lol

perhaps should try swapping the legs on ebay
Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 10, 2006, 11:08:23 PM
Hey Anja

Sod it ! Book another holiday, I'll do you al little cutting from my money tree! (Rocks backwards and forwards!  :o )
10 hours on your feet, blimey, I'm not suprised you ache. I hope you are taking some of your own advice and resting up!

Your work mates sound a laugh, that part of your post had me and my other half in stiches! Tee Hee  ;D
I'm 6 foot tall, want me to run down and get it down for you lol

Have not had a cigarette for 26 hours now! Arghhhhhh......please let tomorrow be easier or I will have no friends left. Even the fish are frowning at me. Mind you it's taken the attention away from my knee!

Nighy night
Hop x
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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 11, 2006, 07:42:06 AM
Morning Hop
well done with the fags - I had not had one for 3 months - then the hols - oh God - got to go throught the first few days again - hubbie wont/cant do it- so that doesnt help - Keep it up - concentrating on the diet instead - had my porridge!

got to go now - see you about 8 then to get that darned Jelly fish down!

have you got fish tank then?
anja
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 11, 2006, 10:16:39 AM
Hey Anja

We have cichlids, they are tropical. I used to keep marine fish which are amazing but trops are much easier!
(http://www.cichlids.com/typo3temp/pics/387f62d21c.jpg)

Bad day today, my auntie died this morning (53) we were very close so needless to say I am smoking again!  :'( Makes you realise how precious and fragile life is. Makes me feel bad about moaning on about my knee, it's not as if it's life threatening eh! Have smoked 3 fags and eaten (comfort food) 2 packets of crisps!  ::) Am going to quit again after next weekend as I definately want ot be a non smoker for my pre assessment clinic. My other half won't give up either so I know what you mean although last night he only had one as he was really trying to support me, bless him.

How are you today? Still sore from horsing around at work? Tee Hee. Any attackes from random jelly fish!
Hop

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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 11, 2006, 03:27:13 PM
oh Hop, so so sorry about you aunt - that must have been a real shock, 53 is no age to die - was she ill or was it totally sudden - not that it makes any difference - you can never really prepare yourself for something like this. My thoughts are very much with you.
Don't worry about the fags you will get there another day.

We have tropical marines (fish and corals ,inverts ) so lovely but sooooo much work - more interesting than the telly as well! lol

one of the girls at work is off to Tunisia in the morning with her teenage sons and  live in partner(who suspects he is on his way out - doesn't yet know for sure about her new boyfriend!)oops! but anyhow her 18 yr old has bet her 6 months car tax that she WILL have a row on holiday! Think he is onto a winner there. LOL
Re the fags - what I have trouble with is the smell of the fags on my hubbie if I am not smoking - hate it.

Hope you are okay - are you at work?
anja
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 11, 2006, 03:54:36 PM
Hi Anj

Thanks for your post hun, I loved my marines, I had a lovely porcupine puffa called puffy, humbug damsels, clowns, tangs, grammas, morays, etc... Had 3 marine tanks the largest was 7 foot long. Unfortunately I had no luck with invertabrates due to whitespot!

Fags - We only smoke outside on the balcony so the fag smell isn't really a problem for me. Last night he had one came in had some mouth wash and I couldn't really tell! We will both have smelly other halves!!! Tee Hee!

Am at work yea, leave at 5pm, am going to go home run a hot bath soak and then make roast chicken with loads of veg, proper comfort food! My aunt was sick for about a year but really bad the last 2 months, her heart and lungs gave up due to years of smoking amongst other things. Hence one of the reasons for giving up smoking. Will give up again on Tuesday of next week. DEFINATELY. It scared me seeing what she went thought all for the sake of an addiction. Still it doesn't make it any easier to quit eh!
How is your day going?

Hop x
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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 11, 2006, 04:03:48 PM
Thats pretty scary about the fags - duty frees nearly gone - we dont smoke indoors either - not fair on the kids- and it smells - hate horrible smells
That is a lot of tanks to take care of - we have a 4 ft bow fronted one - with nemos,dory, a yellow eyed tang, flame angel, clams,3 different shrimps and lots of coral - love it. The other tank has freshwater trops - a red tail sharkfish and 4 hatchet fish (flying fish)

yum - love roast chicken - we are having lamb hot pot!

right am now going to get on with my house work! should have started it 2hrs ago.
see ya later
anj
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 12, 2006, 04:38:41 PM
Hi Anja, Hi Charlotte and anyone else that pops in.

How are we both today? I must say after the events of yesterday things here are pretty fab! Hoorah! ;D

Charlotte, Has the pain subsided at all? Did you speak to your new OS about the accident? It's worth a try if you haven't, you might be able to expediate your surgery.

Hop x

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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 12, 2006, 08:07:50 PM
Hi Hop
doing fine thanks - dunno whats the matter with me though - am soooo tired - must be the shock of having 10 days off and going straight back to 10 hr days - plus the usual cooking,cleaning etc. Need sleep I think. Sure that I will soon get back in the swing of it - only 10 weeks to my op then I can take it very easy!!

How are you today - did you have to work? what do you do? got a funny feeling that you said you were a teacher - but prob. confused there.
take care
anj
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 12, 2006, 08:47:48 PM
Hi Anj

10 hours a day and day to day house chores etc certainly takes it out of you. Are you sleping ok at night?
Am good today thanks although had an IUD fitted at half six, ouch! Rather sore now, in bed with a hot water bottle being taken care of by my boy. Came off the pilll injection as it makes me loose weight when I don't have hormones in me, so fingers crossed I'll loose some more now before my op! (Hope that wasn't too much information! lol  :o )
For work I run a department within a water treatment company, managing sales people. organising campaigns, events and marketing etc. It's varied and I love it! Was in IT sales management for years and so glad to be out! What exactly do you do?

Keep smiling
Hoppy
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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 12, 2006, 09:29:20 PM
nice one Hop!
you have all the fun! Never had one of those or the injections - what a sheltered life I lead! Got sterilised after my kids - not good though leads to very heavy monthlies - would never reccommend it - loads of info for you too! So I cant use that as excuse for big bum either

By the way - never go to the Gambia unprepared - 8 Tampax cost £5 in the hotel!!!!!!!!! rip off b******s!

sleep - I sleep very lightly- this is when knee pain is more nagging - during the day it tends to be more painful on certain movements - make sense?

best sleep is when the alarm goes off - sleep like a log between snoozing the alarm!

Its nice when you enjoy your work - 99% of the time I love mine - unfortunately we seem to have employed someone light fingered so having to try to sort out which one it is - not nice - but funnily enough had a call from an ex employee today warning of one of new staff being dodgy - and no one knew of theft other than me and owner so hopefully helpful info. The last time someone got caught they had managed to get about 4K out of the business before it was finally caught on camera - they get greedy! Watch this space!
always smiling :)
anj
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Post by: smeagol on April 15, 2006, 12:07:03 PM
Hi
Still on crutches today and its my birthday:( havnt got round to telling the new OS about the accident and my knee!

Hope you're all ok!
charlotte
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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 15, 2006, 07:52:22 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY - YOU MUST BE AN EASTER BUNNY!
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Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: Doc79316 on April 15, 2006, 07:56:00 PM
Hey Hop,

Hope you're OK. I've not really had chance to read your post properly.

Charlotte,

Happy Birthday.

Take care,

Laura x
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 16, 2006, 02:47:56 PM
Charlote

Happy Birthday, hope you had a great day our little Easter girl, worry I missed you yesterday was working, boooo!
I hope this year of you life brings you the answers you have been looking for
 Hop x
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Post by: smeagol on April 18, 2006, 05:54:03 PM
thanks everyone!  i had a great time other than the fact i was on crutches.
how are you all today?
charlotte
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 21, 2006, 02:39:22 PM
Hi Everyone

Well, had my pre-assessment today an saw my OS at long last! They took bloods, x-ray's and wee samples! Nice!
I also had a check over with a doctor for heart and lung function etc. I forgot to aks about having a LR too but I don't think I am which I'm pleased about cos hopefully it won't hurt as much. :)
I will be having my surgery in about 6 weeks but my OS works Mondays and there are 2 bank holidays in May so it may be 8 weeks, >:(  so it looks like we will b rehab buddies Anj! Hoorah!  I've been told I will be partial weight bearing from the start with an IROM brace locked in extention for 3 weeks then I'm off to PT where they will relax it etc.I will be in the brace for 6 weeks and am not allowed to shower! Eugh!!! No work for 8 weeks. Not good as I only have 8 days paid sick left this year! Boo  >:(
He operates on Monday's so I may have to go in Sunday afternoon or early Monday morning and will be let out probably Wednesday ish. Feeling really poo now! Want to go home and bury my head in the sand, am excited that's it's finally happening but have been poked and prodded and it all seems far too real!

Hope you are all doing great.
Hop  ;D
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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 21, 2006, 07:34:45 PM
Hi there
jumped the gun and asked on other thread what they did - duh thanks you dont have to explain again, except how many days in hosp?
wow that would be great if we get the same surgery day - sods law says mine will get changed - I hate not knowing until the actual day whether it will go ahead - my last op was cancelled because of a coach crash - quite devastating being cancellled and having to go back to work after all the goodbyes!
Fingers crossed for both of us.
take care anj
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 23, 2006, 07:47:47 PM
Hi Anj
Blimey, a cancelled op that must have been awful, I can't even imagine getting myself all hyped up and then sent home.
I should get my letter by Wednesday with a proper date, hoorah!

Need to vent..... :'(

Have had a strange week, feeling really low. Spent the day with my family today which was lovely but brought home about loosing my auntie. The eczema that appeared after taking the tramadol has gone crazy, I'm covered from my neck down to my waist all over my front. Well at least I think it's from the tramadol that's what my GP seems to think. My mum thinks it's stress related and told me to chill out! Arn't mums great.  ;D It's amazing how may problems sprout up from a knee problem eh! I bought a thingy ??? to go into my shoe to protect my foot arch to see if this will make a difference to the foot pain from walking so strangely! (Poo pants!!! ;D)
Sorry to moan just wish all this was over and done with, sick of my knee, the ezcema, my foot, the weight gain lack of mobility la la lal la la. I've decided tomorrow I am going to wake up all positive!

How long are you having to off work? When do you start rehab etc? Do you know all of this yet or do you have to wait for your pre-assessment to find out like I did? A friend of mine had a TKR at the tail end of last year and cannot believe the difference. A real success story. Hope you're having a good day.

Hop  ;D

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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 23, 2006, 10:32:38 PM
Hey you - Chill out!  :)
Not suprising you are feeling low, it's very hard when someone dies - it's not just your grief that you are thinking about but prob thinking a lot of the time about your mum - so take her advice. Also the uncertainty of when your op is going to be - look out for the postie.
We have had a good weekend - My son Robs birthday today so when I got in from work yesterday we went out for dinner and today took him shopping - went to pizza hut for lunch - indian for dinner - going to WW on tues - not before time - last ditch attempt.
Going to email OS this week to find out when my pre op appointment is,
My shin is absolutely burning tonight - think I walked too far today - in fact didnt go everywhere with the boys - they left me behind - for which I was very grateful - could not get a disabled space - there is about 50 in our multi storey - no badges displayed - I was quite upset as I only use them when I need to and could have done with it today! sorry ranting.

My daughter went and watched the London Marathon today - one of her friends was running in aid of teenage cancer trust - one of their friends has breast cancer - she is 17! and we moan about our knees - at least they wont kill us.
Had a couple of glasses of port - so ready for bed now!
Have a good day tomorrow - cheer up - not many more weeks and we will be looking back! Think I will be off work for about 8 weeks then go back part time!
anj x
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 24, 2006, 01:35:22 PM
Hi Anj

Happy Birthday to Rob, Happy Birthday to Rob, la la la la la la.  ;D Pizza hut and indian, yum two of my favourites!
Am cheery today, hoorah, had some good news from the doctor I don't have eczema it's adult measles! So should go in the next 6 weeks! Itches like mad but at least it will go and won't be around forever.

Good on your daughters friend for running the marathon, 17 is no age for such a horrid disease, I wish her well and hope she goes into remission soon. This link is a link to the breast cancer site
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites
click on it every day to help to give free mamagrams to women. I've told everyone I know about it, pass it on.  ;D

I know what you mean about the lack of badges in cars parked in disabled spaces it's absolutely infuriating. Like you I only use it when I need to. I hope your shin is feeling better today. Sorry I moaned on so much haven't been myself for about a week but feeling back to normal today, thanks for listening.
Hop x

Title: Re: Hating the NHS today!-(They are now forgiven!)
Post by: Doc79316 on April 24, 2006, 02:06:13 PM
Hey Hop and Anja,

I hope you're both having a better day today. Sorry I've not been around much for the last couple of days so I've not kept an eye on your posts.

I know what you mean about the diabled spaces. I should hear this week about my application for a badge - I figure the worst they can say is no so there was no harm in applying.

I reckon cancelled ops are part and parcel of waiting for surgery for anyone. It's so frustrating - I've only had one operation on the first day it was scheduled for and that was in January. All my others were postpoened for what I thought were silly reasons but there's nothing we can do about it unless we go private. Tough choice, no?!

Anyway, I'm at work right now so I shouldn't really be on here. Not too bad though, I'm leaving at 3pm.

Take care,

Laura x
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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 24, 2006, 06:25:32 PM
Hi hop and laura

Yes another day done! cant wait till my op- my son called me a drama queen today! all I did was 'yelp' - not deliberately outloud - but just 'caught' my knee and it was sooo painful I actually thought my shin bone was going to break! sounds dramatic but it bloody hurt - little horror my son can be :)
but its all okay! - hubbie is on a course in Milton keynes - 3 hr drive from here but he insists on travelling - doesn't want to leave me alone in case I have a bad night - he is so lovely - trouble is he is going to be shattered come the weekend - no by tomorrow morning!

Hop - so glad you are feeling more cheerful today, sorry you have got measles - poor laura runs the risk of chicken pox - that is horrendous when you are an adult - my sister got it a few years ago and was very ill. My daughter had it when she was 4 and it followed on with meningitis - apparently a rare complication - but we managed to nurse her at home with the doctor coming in every 8 hrs with antibiotic jabs - fantastic man, sadly retired now.my son had it at the same time - such a fun time - not.

Hop - hope you get your date very soon so you can start to plan.

Laura - good luck getting your badge - when I applied for mine they said that they would only give it for permanent disability - so when my GP did his bit he said it was permanent if I didn't get surgery. It came through in about 3 weeks start to finish - thought that was very efficient.

Have a good evening - really ought to cook dinner soon - can't justify any more takeaways or eating out this week - especially with WW tomorrow. lol
take care anja
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 25, 2006, 11:01:57 AM
Hey Anj, Het Laura and Charlotte if you are about  ;)

Laura - If you don't get your badge I wil be amazed! Like Anj I got mine within 3 weeks and it's been a god send. They last for 3 years. I got a nice little holder for it too from ebay cos it comes in two parts and is easier to display.  ;D have you not had chicken pox before? I hope and prey you have and if not you don't get it darlin'.

Your poor sister and daughter for that matter Anj, that must have been awful. I had scarlet fever when I was 24, they call it scarletina now, it developed from tonsil itis cos I didn't take all of my anti-biotics (wanted to go out and felt better!) a big lesson learned there.  ::) My mum nursed me at home too, apparentely I was hallucinating most of the time so fortunately I can't remember much of it! lol Also I have no tosils anymore! OMG your son had it at the same time! Arghhh! You mums are FAB x

Well I have some news and am still shaking from it! I have just spoken to the admissions office, my OS after seeing me pushed me to the top of his list so my surgery will be one of two dates I just need to wait to get the letter. The 15th or 22nd of May.
Arghhhh! Yipppeeee! Wobbling moment with excitement all rolled into one.

Hope you are both well. Just wanted to thank you for being there for me, it means an awful lot.

Hop x



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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 25, 2006, 05:35:23 PM
OMG Hop you lucky bugger! :)
Very pleased for you and hate you - wish I could have mine sooner but Rob doesnt finish his exams until 21/6 - dont really hate you! just jealous!
excellent news. - oh well we should get some rehab time together!
take care - got a stupid grin across my face I am so pleased for you!
take care
anja
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Post by: Doc79316 on April 25, 2006, 06:01:43 PM
Hey Hop,

That's great news. Have you been wandering around all day with a silly grin on your face? - I would have.


Anja,

Your date will come soon enough. But it's hard playing the waiting game all the time.

Take care,

Laura x
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 26, 2006, 04:21:38 PM
Hey girlies
How are we all today? I read on another thread that you had a foot tatoo anj, how cool. I'm thought have a flower painted on my big toe was cool but I like your idea.

Laura - How's Oscar? I'm hoping you don't have any pimples apperaring?

I have a couple of questions for you if that's ok. I'm trying to get everything sorted ready for the big day.

Have I forgotten anthing?? I have vitamin e-cream for the scar, snow packs for icing, found some really goods one that are like snow rather than gel so they are malleable. I've ordered series one and two of twin peaks as I've never seen it and series two of 24, so theres a good few hours of entertainment. I've just read Nick Hornby's Long Way down which I really enjoyed so I've bid on ebay for some more of his books. I have wireless laptop and a hospital type table that swivels for it...um what else....I have loads of pillows for elevation. My fiance is speaking to his boss today to arrange 2 weeks off work and my parents are on stand by. Mums going to come over the night before I go in to braid my hair (two close to the head plaits) so it stays cleaner for longer.
Question --- Have you heard of some sort of dry shampoo that you can run through dry hair? Thought that might be handy??

Also I don't know how to spell it biut my OS said I had sorosis of the patella as well as OA, do you know what that is? I didnt' ask at the time as he was trying to manipulate my hip and my knee was hurting!!

Can't stop grinning teehee, not long now. I should get my letter this week, think I'm gunna frame it!  ;D ;D ;D

Sending you hugs
T x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on April 26, 2006, 08:29:17 PM
Hi Hop,

The only things I would add to your list are :

Lake sure you have a kettle etc to make a drink when you're on your own - you'd be surprised how difficult it is to be NWB and desperate for a hot drink.
Get some ready meals or cook stuff you can just take out of the freezer and reheat easily.
Make sure you have plenty of dressings for when you come out of hospital too.

Have you thought about pain relief? I was offered a femoral nerve block during my TTT surgery but refused it. Wish I'd had it though. It's worth considering if you're not good with pain. You should talk to your anaesthetist about it.

I always have my hair braided before surgery. I find it much easier to 'keep' - whether I tie it up or leave it loose and I don''t need to wash it so often either. Kinda handy just after surgery when you can't be bothered. I've not heard of any dry shampoo product but I'll try to find out for you.

Oscar's fine thanx and no, I don't have any spots. Must be lucky as I've not had chicken pox before.

Take care,

Laura x
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Post by: UK Girl ! on April 26, 2006, 08:37:40 PM
Hi grinner!
my word - haven't thought about half of this!

I am sure that you can buy dry shampoo from boots, but you will prob find that not washing your hair for a few days will do it good - prob get a greasy hair day and then it will go back to looking good! - unless you are me with short hair that sticks up overnight! - but I dont really care! ;D 'cos I will have my new knee!!!! hee hee.

Have also got the most comfortable setee in the world - it's leather but seems to be impregnated with sleeping potion! - Every time I lay down on it I fall asleep!  Have got the wireless laptop, two teenagers to run around after me for the first 2 weeks and my husband is having week 3 & 4 off, so hopefully by then will be able to go visiting family in Lymington,  you never know might even be able to go out on my sisters boat! - well I am nurturing my positive mental attitude! (PMA)

Every friend that visits could bring a magazine instead of chocs!

I hadnt even thought about scar creams - I have got an Ice pack though.

Most importantly I treated myself to a new sunlounger!
anja
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Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 26, 2006, 09:17:10 PM
Evening All

Thanks forthe top tips. I am definately going to speak with my anaesthetist about the nerve block as morphine doesn't seem to have that much of an effect on me. The cream I bough is from ebay 500g for £4.99 and £1.75 delivery, it's Clinica Vitamin E plus B5 cream for stretch marks and scars etc. I;ve read on here that it's supposed to be really good. I've been trying to find today pads for my crutches for the hand hold part to no avail so I think I'll make some with my step daughter at the weekend, I want to decorate them too for a bit of fun!

Glad to hear that Oscar is ok, it's heartbreaking when little ones are poorly. I'm not suprised you've managed to ward it off Luara with the amount of pils you are poppig at the mo you must be rattling! How is it all going? Are you still going to see a plastic surgeon or someone about your wound site?

I like the idea of your sun lounger Anj, great idea cos the weather should hopefully be good during your recovery. The boat sounds fun too, you'll be around the corner from me so make sure you wave! lol

Banke holiday again this weekend, yipeeee! I like these four day weeks! Mind you in saying that I know I'm really going to miss work when I'm stuck at home. I thought about speaking to the district nurse or someone to see if I can borrow a wheel chair with a leg thingy in order to get out of the house for a bit. My doctor said he would arrange for a toilet frame so it's worth an ask even if it's only for a couple of weeks.

Hop  ;D


Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on April 26, 2006, 09:34:16 PM
Hi,

Oscar was fine - the "pox" had absolutely no effect on him at all. He's very generous though - he's shared it with everyone he's come into contact with other than me!

I have to see a plastic surgeon next week. This sounds really stupid but I'm nervous about it. I have no problem having major knee surgery but I'm scared of the initial consultation with the "plastic man"! Wow, how wierd!    :P

I also like the idea of a new sun lounger - but where would I use it. This is Birmingham ya know!!!! I'd rather have a double hammock. I've seen them for sale before and totally intended to buy myself one. Not to share with my hubby though. A dodgy knee needs a lot of space to recover in the sun!    ;D

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on April 27, 2006, 04:19:14 PM
Hey guys
You know I was grinning....I am now a cheshire cat.
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I have my DEFINATE date. Da da da...15th May.... I have to go in the morning of the surgery so 2 weeks Monday! Blimey!
Am going to treat myslef to a glass of wine or two tonight!
Hope you are doing good.

Hop x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on April 27, 2006, 08:34:12 PM
Great News! - hey I am gonna have a G & T to celebrate with you! 

will def give you a wave if we go by - in fact going to lymington at the weekend - madness for a BH - so will wave from the M27!

you will find that the occupational therapy guys at your local physio dept will sort out everything you need - our 65 yr old gardner at work broke 3 ribs and was in a lot of pain, I took him to hosp but they woulnt keep him in - really bad he was in a right state and lives alone so I rang the physio dept and met them at his house within 2 hrs and they lent him loads of kit! Very impressed.

Hey Laura - my hubbie suggested the double hammock - but I chickened out - bit unstable for getting on and off. - I actually bought two loungers - my mate said she would not come round unless we had one each! LOL

Got to go and do a sunbed session now - got to keep brown! all of my customers think I have only just got back of hols! hee hee.
Back later

hey Hop - not too much wine now - work tomorrow!
ange
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on April 27, 2006, 10:09:50 PM
Hey,

I would have no problem getting onto a double hammock. Getting off may pose a few "interesting" probs though.

I'm going now. I can't see straight I'm so tired. Oscar no doubt will wake up just as I get to sleep. He likes doing that! Apart from which I have to get the washing off the line. Have to do it quick too before the security light turns off.

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 04, 2006, 04:59:54 PM
My laptop sparked blue inside where you put the charger! Need to send it away to be repaired so have no computer apart from at work until it comes back.  :'(

 >:( Typical just before my surgery when I really need it!


Hope everyones having a good day. Won't be around in the evenings for a while.

Take it easy, hugs
Hop  ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 04, 2006, 05:37:19 PM
Hey Hop,

Hope you're having a good day. It's a shame about your laptop but hopefully you can get it fixed before you'r admitted to hospital.

take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 04, 2006, 08:31:06 PM
Hi Hop
sorry about your pooter!

my husbands packed up and he rang the company - they collected it the next day (they brought the packaging for it!) and he had it back in 5 days!

That was through the usually crap PC World policy
Good Luck with it
anj
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 05, 2006, 08:42:12 AM
Hey Hop,

Only 10 sleeps to go now.

L.x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on May 05, 2006, 11:48:48 AM
Hi Hop
I hope the laptop is fixed soon, they dont usually take long to fix, mine was back in like 3 days! the second time it went in for repairs they told me id have a bit of a wait as they had to order in parts, it took a week.  so should have everything ready before the op. 
I manages to finally get through to my os's secretary.  the op is due july ish anyway, but due to the effect on my studies and the car crash i may be able to get it sooner.  i really hope i can
charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 05, 2006, 12:32:44 PM
Hey chapesses! Thanks for your posts.

Spoke to my mum last night who has said when we go over for her birthday on Saunday I can borrow her laptop until mine is fixed. woo hoo, bless her heart. :-*

10 sleeps yay! Really excited now! I've been training my manager to do my job this week which has been exhausting, I've had to write out procedures and processes for everything which has been really tough because I do so much in auto pilot! Nearly there though. Phew  :-\

Great news about your surgery Charlotte, that's not long to wait at all. Fingers crossed it can be sooner for you, the sooner the better eh! Let us know how you get on.

Hope you are all well and enjoying this lovely weather - makes a change eh. Nice weather to be on the boat Anja.

Hop  ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 05, 2006, 01:38:51 PM
Hey all,

Lovely weather to be on the boat. I'm at work!   :'(  Out on site but at least i can get a bit of colour whilst I'm working. Oscar will already be brown if his nursery have let him play outside. Not fair!!


L. x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 05, 2006, 01:55:35 PM
Hi Laura

How goes it? How are you finding being out on site? How's the knee holding up? At least it's shorts weather eh  ;) I'm stuck in the office too! I keep trying to find reasons to go outside to change the colour of my skin from pastey almost blue to something that looks remotely healthy!  ::)

Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on May 05, 2006, 03:42:05 PM
Hi
Dont you find that your knee is so much better in the hot weather.  i do, i think its mainly the acheing though that goes.  but its so much better.  if i could only stop twisting it, falling on it and generally aggravating it i'd be fine!!!!
ive been stuck in the lecture hall all day so i havnt got much sun either.  i think im now so white that i reflect the sun, seriously, im like ghost!
charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 05, 2006, 03:58:35 PM
Hey Casper! Tee Hee

I agree about the warmer weather, min aches dreadfully i the cold. In the winter months I have been known to have the odd sun bed session to warm it through!

How is your nose now? Has it healed?
Hop  ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on May 05, 2006, 04:04:53 PM
hi hop
yeah, my nose has pretty much healed now, still feels like its not covered in enough skin layers and the slightest thing will make it bleed, but its healed, and i dont think it has scarred *tried to look at underside of her own nose*.  my knee is still messed up though.  filling oin the claims forms now for the crash.
charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 05, 2006, 09:33:06 PM
hi all

yes it would be great to be on the boat - sadly I have to work!! However I am still reasonably brown! hee hee - thank goodness for that sunbed! - actually it was my hubbie that bought it for my birthday last year.

and yes, knee much better in warm weather. Its great being able to go out in the sun at lunch and then go back into airconditioned building!

Hop - nice mum!

Charlotte - hope you get your op soon - when do you break up from uni - must be about mid june?

hey Laura - wish I could wear shorts to work - my boss woulnt mind - nor would the male customers - very cheeky lot! They love it now the strappy tops have come out - one in particular keeps chucking a fiver on the floor in front of me hoping I will pick it up (and my boss encorages him!) said I would consider it when they get to £50!!! - well a girls got to get the most she can for showing off her assets!

hope you all have a good weekend ( I am working saturday)

anja
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 10, 2006, 09:34:27 AM
Hi Anja, Charlotte, Laura

How are you doing? Sun bed eh! Nice present. I think I'm going to go to the tanning shop around the corner tonight to get a little colour in my cheeks.
Dad's alomst fixed my laptop, hoorah, he's just waiting on a part from the states, so I haven't taken mums cos I should have it back for when I'm out of hospital. I can't sleep at the moment, I'm not sure if it's stress or excitement! I ordered some arnica yesterday from www.zipvit.co.uk it's a herb reccomended by my doctor that is suposed to have healing properties.

5 sleeps to go!  :o  ;D 

Hugs to you all Hop x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 10, 2006, 01:01:24 PM
Hi Hop,

Only 5 sleeps to go but better still, only 4 full days!!    ;D

Hope you get your PC part in time.

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on May 10, 2006, 08:01:24 PM
anja
i finish uni at the end of june.  really hoping the doc will move the surgery to asap because it hurts so much. 
hop
glad to hear the laptops nearly ready, dont know what i'd do without mine!
charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 10, 2006, 08:41:39 PM
Hi Hop
Dont you over do it on the sunbeds - dont want you browner than me hee hee ;D

Must go and do one in a min!

hopefully your lappie will be back fit soon.
The time to your op is just flying by now - soon be all fixed!

My mum always used arnica on us when we were kids - great healer.

charlotte - perhaps you could tell your OS that you need sorting quick so you are fit to go back to uni in sept.

right going tanning now

have a good evening
anja
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 11, 2006, 10:17:20 AM
Hey everyone

Well it's my last day in the office for 8 weeks or so! :-\  Feels really strange, I don't have anything left to do so I'm rather bored, can't start any new projects as I can see them through to completion! So today I will mostly be playing games like the last day of school! My last last day is tomorrow but I'm at an event so it doens't really count.

I didn't do the sunbed, defosted the freezer insted! What joy that was! Felt like I'd run a marathon by the time I was done  :o
I have almost everything in place now, am looking forward to my pedicure on Saturday morning (no nail polish I know, rubbish) and seeing my step daughter, then mum and dad are down on Sunday to take me to lunch and shopping, my other half is buying me a new watch yipeeee, then home pack bag, wait for Tesco delivery of healthy food, braid hair and try to sleep! 

I don't think I will have access to a laptop now until after my surgery, (After I finnish here today) so take care everyone and I'll see on when I'm on the other side of surgery.
Promise I'll try hard not to winge, whine and moan too much
Hop x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 11, 2006, 12:24:17 PM
Hey Hop,

You must winge, whine and maon as much as you like. That's what we're all here for. Hope you enjoy your last day at work - does this mean you're finishing early too??!
At least after surgery you'll be able to laze around in the sun - assuming we get any here.

You'll be absolutely fine. Good look & see you on the other side!!


Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 11, 2006, 08:13:51 PM
Hey Hop

wow such fun - defrosting the freezer :)

I went for the sunbed option.

MONDAY!!! - OMG its nearly here!! Very best of luck - dont suppose we will hear from you until after once you finish work tomorrow. So take care!

Had my pre op appointment through and all th op paperwork - they want to know measurements of chairs ,bed, toilet etc etc. - pre op on 15th June and got to go into hospital at 4 pm the day before the op - but have to ring to check at 3pm - its about 1.5 hr drive from home - duh ::) - well I reckon if we ring earlier - if there are bed shortages I should get one for ringing earlier! (hopefully). It's more of a realitynow I have the paperwork.  They said to bring food for pre op appointment as it could take a long time!

GOOD LUCK!!!
anja
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 11, 2006, 08:46:06 PM
Hey Hop & Anja,

I'm so pleased for you both that your knees are being sorted once and for all. I'm sure these will be the last surgeries you will need for a long while.

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 11, 2006, 09:25:49 PM
Thanks Laura

How is your leg - did you ring the Docs/hosp?  I dont know about the blisters - but maybe the oozing is the infection coming out - the gunk has to go somewhere !?

I have to be honest with you - infection is one of my greatest fears as I am allergic to penicillin - and dont know how effective non penicllin antibioics are as I have not used many.

let us know how the leg is
take care
anja
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 13, 2006, 07:06:48 PM
Helo my lovelies

My other half brought hs wor laptop home for me! Woo Hoo, so I us wanted to say Hi. 2 sleeps now. Exciting stuff.
Great news about your paperwork coming through Anj, why do they need measurements of chairs and stuff though? Just think you'll be making use of your new sun lounger really soon, blimey will you be brown!

How are things with you Laura?
Senging hugs
Hop x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 13, 2006, 07:20:47 PM
Anja,

Have posted everythng on my thread "When is it ok to give up". I'm at my Mom's right now and her PC is temperamental to say the least and keeps on kicking me out. Things are reasonable at the moment - in brief - need CT scan afer seeing OS yesterday and maybe more surgery.

Hop,

Only 2 sleeps left now. Things with my leg are now tolerable (ish).

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 13, 2006, 09:05:16 PM
Hi Hop

how are you ? prob a bit nervous ! I know I would be. Sure everything will be great.

re the measurements - think it might be something to with being able to sit on the toilet - will prob need a frame! and getting in and out of bed, sitting in a chair...... just so they can supply kit to make it easier - I believe.

Top Man! he prob knows this site is important to you right now - do you go in tomorrow or mon. morning. Will be back on tomorrow - but in case you are not - GOOD LUCK!!!! and take care.
anja
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 13, 2006, 09:19:51 PM
Hey Anj

I'm not nervous at all yet,  don't think it will hit me until Sunday night. I have to go in for 7.30am Monday morning. I've just washed my matres protector and will be hoovering the matress in the morning! More fun chores! lol

Measuring...I see now, doh! ::) I had the district nurse visit me Friday moring before work to measure upf or a raised toilet seat and frame. It will be delivered on Mnday or Tuesday. She was lovely, said for me not to worry about coming to the surgery if I need dressings changed etc and that she would come to me. Bless. I now I've had a right old moan about the NHS before when things wern't going my way but on the whole I think we are very lucky living in a country that provide free medical treatment. Well I say free, National Insurance !!  :o

Can't wait for tomorrow, my mum and dad and fiance are going out for lunch together and shopping for my new watch, and I'm treating mum to some new trainers as she is havng problems with her achilies tendon. Thought I'd get her some sporty ones for support. They live in an old Georgian town with crap shops! Mum's going to help me pack my bag, it's almost like preparing for going away on holiday!

I've just read back my post ...me me me me me, sorry! I hope you are ok and enjoying your weekend. Not so log for your new knee now and hopefully Lauras CT will find someanswers and also hoping that Charlottes surgery can be brought forward.

Thanks for being there for me girls.
Hop ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 13, 2006, 09:24:16 PM
Hop,

You're welcome - that's what we're here for. You have every right to think about yourself. We all do it. And even moreso when surgery is forthcoming.
Enjoy your weekend (what's left of it) shopping, packing etc.

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 14, 2006, 08:36:33 AM
Hey Hop,

I hope you get to read this before you go. I was in a full leg immobiliser after my TTT surgery. If you have a shower cubicle then it's the standard rule of good leg up first follows by bad leg trailing behind. Bad leg down first whilst holding onto something so you don't fall. If your shower is over the bath, hold onto something or someone to get good leg in first. Then swing your bad leg round into the bath. If you have someone to help you then they can support your leg. It's not a good idea to have a shower/bath if you're on your own in the house just in case you need help.Whilst having a bath you can put your bad leg up on the end of the bath where the taps are to keep it dry. When you've finished, let the water out first, thn you can use both arms (obviously) and the strength of your other leg to stand up. Alternatively, get someone to help you out of the bath. So long as you're careful, you can remove your brace whilst bathing.

To keep your dressing/stitches etc dry you can either use a full leg protector (expensive and probably too late if you don't already have one). Otherwise, take some cling film and wrap it around a few times. bear in mind that cling film only sticks to itself. Secure it in place with tape - micropore is better than selotape. Gas tape is better than duct tape but it takes ages to get off and you'll probably lose a couple of layers of skin in the process, so I wouldn't recommend that option!

I wish you the very best of luck and if I don't "see" you online beforehand, lots of hugs.

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 14, 2006, 10:01:45 AM
Thanks for that Laura

I have an en-suite with a cubcle but the step up to it comes almost upto my knee so my non hopping partner said he would go down to B&Q buy some cheap wood and build me a ramp! I also have a bath with over shower in the main bathroom that I think I'll have to use until the ramp is ready! He also bought me a hair washing tray so that he can wash my hair while I am laying in bed, just incase! I'm sure I won't need it but got in just incase cos I hate having dirty hair post op.
I got the cling film but forgot to get tape! Thanks! I wold have been a it soggy! Eugh! Will micropore work as it's like paper? I can't use anything really sticky I'm allergic to most sticky stuff!
I woke up this moring at about 6am and thought blimey this time tomorrow I'll be in the shower of whatever getting ready to go. Its finnaly here HOOOOOOOORAHHHHH!  ;D ;D ;D ;D I wonder if I will still be so up beat about it when it hurts! lol lol

Do you remember Nicole who post on this site about 2 months ago about her up and coming TTT? Well we've become email pals! Found out last night her recovery is fab abd they have booked their wedding for 1st July. I love to hear success stories ad am looking forward to the day wen you can tell me yours.

Hugs back at ya darlin'
Hop x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 14, 2006, 10:52:07 AM
Hey Hop,

If necessary, so long as you can balance unaided with most of your weight on your good leg, you can stand and lean over the bath & use the shower to wash your hair. I ran into difficulty the first few times I tried it when it came to rinsing as I have long hair. I could never be sure that I'd rinsed out all of the shampoo.

I always have my hair braided for surgery. It keeps it out o the way and whether it gets dirty or not, it doesn't look it. The only unfortunate thing about it is when all of those little plaits have to come out. After a couple of weeks (by which time I'm up and about) it starts to look a bit raggy in any case. I'm having my hair braided on 24th. I'll post a piccie. I'm not scheduled for any more surgery just yet. I think it's only a matter of time though.

Take care,

Laura x

Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 15, 2006, 08:36:02 AM
Hey Hop,

No doubt you're in Hospital now so won't read this for a while. Good luck. Don't be nervous. It will get painful afterwards but it's nothing you can't cope with.

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 16, 2006, 10:11:34 PM
Hey Hop,

I notice you're online. Are you bac home yet? Have you had your surgery? How are you feeling? Let yourself be pampered and don't do anything you don't have to. take your time to get better and do what you want to in your own time. Don't let anyone push you into doing something you're not ready for.

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 16, 2006, 10:40:10 PM
Hi Laura

How you doing? I have started an essay of a post op thread! I WAS feeling ok...have a question for you already!
I was just nodding off to sleep when the body jolts started waking me up - ouch! Now I get them from time to time but as I woke my naughty knee continued to do it on itd own? Never happened before and OMG it hurts, is this remotey normal? Thought I was doing so well, think I may have overdone it today!

What do you think?
Thanks
Hop
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 16, 2006, 11:04:27 PM
Hi Hop,

I had those too. Naughty jerky leg jolts after my TTT were SSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO painful. They got worse if I did too much. I think it was my knee's way of kinda "biting back", so to speak. After a while they eased off. Unless you have other synptoms or something else to really be worried about, you don't have to think about these jolt sessions. They should ease off by themselves and the less you think about them the less they will bother you.
Bear in mind that a certain number of nerves have been damaged during surgery and these maybe be trying to "fire up", "make contact" or do whatever it is that nerves do that makes youre leg jerk about. Once these have healed as much as they're going to it should settle down quickly.

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 17, 2006, 07:42:27 PM
Hey Hop

So glad you asked that question - I get body jolts just as I am dropping off to sleep - get them about once a week - scare the life out of me 'cos get no warning and rip the hell out of my knee. Just dont know why it happens - but glad to hear I am not the only one - it always scares my hubbie when I do it as it is quite violent and wakes him. I also get cramp in my right calf and dont know how to prevent that.

anj
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 17, 2006, 08:25:16 PM
Hey Anj and crew

Welcome to the body jolt club, tee hee! They absolutely scare the crap out of me! I've never really suffeed with cramp but my other half does, his toes completely part it looks really weird!

A hopping over to my post op thread...hop.hop.hop..
 ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on May 18, 2006, 01:57:42 PM
I know this started as the we hate NHS thread and has kinda divulged from that, but I just thought i'd add my NHS story.
I work in the NHS, I'm a PALS officer so I spend all day expediating peoples appointments and results etc... but can I get mine done, errrrr no. Because i have no clinical priority, i'm on the cancellation list for an MRI but no one seems to cancel them, i'm not suprised either if they've all had to wait as long as I have. I know that it's a 6 month wait for any op even after i get my results if thats what they decide but at least with the op there is a governement taregt which they can't afford to miss, for MRI's there is no targets and they can take as long as they like, when i called to chase it a month ago they said it would be May/June, so i rang on Monday and they said at least another two months, thats July/August according to my brain how can th elist have got longer.
Sitting less than a hundred yards from the scanner is terribly frustrating.

Glad to hear that some of you have got to the end of that waiting list and have had the ops or are just about to, i hope they went well and you are now on the road to recovery.

kat
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 18, 2006, 02:37:40 PM
Hi Kat

That sucks, I really feel for you. Having to sit and look at that bloody machine all day too.  >:( Considering you work there can they not sneak you in? Do you x-rays not warrant a scope to investigate?

How much does a private MRI cost? I saw my OS privately originally with the x-rays included the total cost wa £240 and saved me about 3 months waiting. Well worth it for me, but I guess it depends on just how much an MRI would be, I can imagine they aren't cheap.

The other thing I did was speak to my GP who wroe to my OS to expedate things, that worked too, can you do that? From what you've told me I think you case shold have special consideration.

Good luck and keep your chin up
Hop x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on May 18, 2006, 03:33:49 PM
The only way they can sneak me in is if someon cancels and as i said they just never seem to. I even had a sneaky word with the divisional manager the other day but he said there isn't anything he can do, I'm not clinical priority. I can still walk, and it's not officially effecting my work. Apparantly my X-Rays showed nothing and the reason i am such a low clinical priority is because my OS doesn't think the MRI will show anything either. I wouldn't go for another scope without an MRI anyway the last one has caused too much damage with excess scar tissue etc...
I've thought about going private but i've only been out of uni 2 years and i'm hoping to move house soon so financially it's just not feasible for a scan which might not show anything. As for the GP has the same view as everyone else i'm just not a priority. It took me long enough to convince him that I needed an appointment with the OS in the first place, i'll try and attach the letter that my OS sent to the GP, it was so patronising but it also makes very little sense to me so i'll see what other people think.

Diagnosis:   Right anterior knee pain

This 23 year old girl who works in the PALS office here at the UBHT has had a 3 to 4 year history of right knee pain.  She always had growing pains, she recalls, in the right knee as a child and fell off a motorcycle at the age of about 16 and had a problem with her achilles tendon and her knee has been troublesome since. 

This is mainly anterior knee pain which causes her to limp and walk with a slightly flexed knee.  She has had physiotherapy and has, in fact, had an arthroscopy in 2002 in Sussex were she was told she had some softening in the cartilage but was given no further information on a prognosis.

Analgesics do not make any difference and she gets no effusion, no locking and no giving way. 

On examination she walks with an antalgic stiff knee gait.  The heel does not quite make the ground on the right.  She has good hip movements.  She is rather overweight which makes an operation difficult and she is mildly tender anteriorally.  She has got irritable patello-femoral joint.  Her straight leg raise is intact and with encouragement she can fully extend the knee but complains of pain in the anterolateral hip region and the anteromedial knee.  She has mild medial joint line tenderness.  Cruciates and collaterals are all intact.  No instability.  Meniscal provocation test is negative.

Radiographs of her knee showed no significant abnormality.

This girl has fairly characteristic anterior knee type pain and I have arranged an MRI scan to see if we can shed any further light on the cause of her symptoms.       
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 18, 2006, 04:18:26 PM
Hey Kat,

Can you not get refererd to a different hospital? As you probably know we have a choice of up to 4 hospitals to choose from to be referred to. If you're not happy anyway at the hospital you're at, cant you just change to another and get a second opinion. If you have to wait so long for an MRI, maybe the waiting list is a little shorter elsewhere.

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on May 18, 2006, 04:37:06 PM
It's no shorter in any of the local hospital unfortunately. we've been using one of them to bring our wait down and now they have a long wait as well.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 18, 2006, 06:31:37 PM
Hi Kat

You are the only person who really knows that there is something wrong, you can feel it, so you have to hang in there until they do something for you. The only prognosis I can see is that you have softening of the cartilage.
'She has got irritable patello-femoral joint' ...What does this mean? It must mean something not altogether right?

Putting you forward for an MRI means they haven't given up on you but I would do what Laura said and get a 2nd opinion. You can still wait for your MRI but I would suggest you research and find a private OS to get a consultation like I did. It cost me £240 and was well worth it. If you are not happy it's allways good to get a 2nd opinion.

Keep your chin up and don't give up. I know how frustrating it can get but you will find a way out of this. In the meatime keep us posted and vent all you like and if you just fancy a chat come join us.

Hop x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 18, 2006, 06:56:19 PM
Kat,

Is it at all possible for a friend in the relevant Department to sneak you in one lunchtime?
Worth a try, no?

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on May 18, 2006, 07:54:02 PM
I've tried everything, I'm just going to have to keep waiting and hope that a miracle happens and the waiting list gets shortened some how.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: j_smi001 on May 18, 2006, 08:07:33 PM
Please don't dispare - although I know it is hard, I have been to that place you are in and back again.  I first visited my GP re my knee back in July 2004, who referred me to a consultant , who tried a cortisone injection, who ordered an X-Ray and CT Scan, who put me on the waiting list for surgery and that eventually took place on the 7th Aril 2006.  I am now 6 weeks post op and although at the time I didn't think it would ever come it is now over and rehab starts - so it will happen eventually.  Take care and try not to let it get you down (I know easier said than done).  jak
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 19, 2006, 12:09:17 AM
Hi Jak

Wlecome to the NHS thread! Good luck with your rehab.

Hop  ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: j_smi001 on May 19, 2006, 02:47:35 PM
hello Hop,

Thanks I have been following your story and you are doing well - keep up the good work. 
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 19, 2006, 03:17:11 PM
Hi Jak

Shade told me to try to put something in the bath to sit on so I can clean myself! Tee hee, feeling lousy! So my other half has just gotten some wood sawed it and made me a seat to go over the bath! I think I'll have a few fun and games getting in it!
Can't wait to get clean!

What surgery did you have? How are you feeling?

Hop  ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: j_smi001 on May 19, 2006, 03:22:34 PM
I had a derotational ostoomy and doing well.  My post op diary covers the op and two piccies - although not very exciting.  I use a jug and make a bidet out of my toilet.  Also a bum bag to carry those esentials and a cup with lid on it so I can carry a hot drink about whilst on crutches have been useful.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 19, 2006, 03:32:52 PM
Gunna have a look at your diary, back in a min
 ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 19, 2006, 04:06:36 PM
Hi Jak

Blimey o rielly! Your poor toes and tooth! Talk about being in the wars! Ihad a similar thing happen when I had my major dislocatio to my knee with the plaster but mine wasn't becasue of showering!  ::) I had to get it changed but when they took it off I refused to have it put back on again as I hated it so much. So I kept the back bit of it and strapped it to me leg with bandages! I can't believe you have had to tolerate a plaster for this long it must be driving you nuts! So is it Monday that it comes off?

Hop  ;D

Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: j_smi001 on May 19, 2006, 04:34:55 PM
Hop,

Yep monday, hopefully, otherwise people on this forum are going to have to pick up the pieces!!
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 19, 2006, 05:41:06 PM
Hi Jak

Sorry haven't been here for a couple of hours, I had a friend pop in to see me which was lovely. Had a real catch up.
I bet you can't wait until Monday! WooHoo. My anutie called earlier she's bringing a wheel chair for me for next week so she and my mum can take me out for a couple of hours, I can't wait, it will be like a real outing!

How much mobility do you expect to have when your plaster comes off? That's an awfully long time to be immobilized?

Hop x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Doc79316 on May 19, 2006, 06:26:46 PM
Hey Hop,

So it looks like you're gonna be mobile again pretty soon. It's good to know that you feel up to going out. After my  TTT surgery I wasn't up to going anywhere other than physio.
Keep taking the pain meds as needed and take care of that knee. It's getting better now and hopefully you'll be able to do everythin you want to, including being able to hop, skip and jump like the other kids!

Take care,

Laura x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on May 21, 2006, 02:05:15 PM
I should have more faith in the NHS, I think they must tell everyone who calls that it'll be another 2-3 months just to get them off their back, because in the post last night was an appointment for my scan on the 6th June, just over 2 weeks away. In the middle of my week of work so it's a good job i didn't plan to go away and at 7.30 am in the morning, but thats me just picking and who cares i have an appointment and it's soon.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 21, 2006, 02:19:18 PM
Hi kat

Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
I am so pleased fpr you. What an absolute result. How long will it take for the results to come back? Or as you weork there can they tell you there and then?

Hop  ;D

Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on May 21, 2006, 03:55:05 PM
should be a couple of weeks, but then need to get a new appointment with the OS to get the full results and next steps in treatment, but I'll try and get them to send me a copy of the results so I can show it to my Chiropractor. It's only the first step but it's a step all the same
Kat
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: j_smi001 on May 21, 2006, 04:52:01 PM
Pleased for you that things have started to move - it will probably move along quite quickly now and the next thing is you will be posting in the post - op diary section (or hoefully not actually, that sounds awful!!).  Good luck on the 6th and hopefully it will be good news for you.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 21, 2006, 06:08:28 PM
Hi Kat
That is very quick - good news

Ring your OS secretary now to make the follow up visit for 2 weeks after the scan - thats what they told me to do and it got me back in there quickly!
good luck
anja
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 26, 2006, 09:08:55 PM
Hello my NHS and non NHS knee friends.

Our thread had slipped to page four! Shock horror hold the front page! How are we all this bank holiday? I'm multitasking, watching big brother, big bother! It amazes me that out of all of the people we have in this country these are the people that represent us! Or at least represent the youth! What a bunch! It's been quite entertaining being off work watching them and then also extremely mind numbing!

What's everyone upto? I wanted to start a poll about whether to or not to NHS. I have read so much about insurance companies, some stories are really positive and other a nightmare. I have thought about getting bupa or one of them but they wouldn't cover my old knees! What think you??

Happy Days
Hop  ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 26, 2006, 09:15:32 PM
Hi Hop
I used to have all my knee stuff done on BUPA but  when I left my job to have kids I could not afford to keep it up and so have had to use NHS.  Personally to date have not had any probs - in fact the man that did my private knee work also did my nhs work! Now I have the same os that I was going to use when I first went the private route to sort it out again - but got my nhs appointment sooner than the private one! - I would say that the only real difference is food and accomodation - 3 star instead of 5 star!ctually I know a lady who has the same OS - she is having her tkr privately - and has to wait until 5 aug - I was amazed.

anj
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on May 26, 2006, 09:28:18 PM
Hey Anj

Wow, that's amazing! Exactly the same as me with regards to the same OS. I saw mine privatley for the initial consultation and ended up being my NHS surgeon! Result! I didn't get quite the same treatment with the waiting but did get operated on 2 months early. I also had my own room and my evening meal of cottage pie was lovely! Mind you I was morphined up o the hilt and I think liver and onions (eugh bleugh puke puke) would have tasted ok!

I'm going to try and start a poll! Will probably totally bulls it up but hey!

Hop x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 26, 2006, 10:09:03 PM
Go for it!
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on May 27, 2006, 09:45:48 PM
found it - done it!
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on June 13, 2006, 04:35:30 PM
Hi all

Hope you are all well (or as well as we ever are) and not suffering too much with all this heat.

Well I had my scan last week, nothing too much to tell about it, except that they dont warn you that it's painful. a) Keeping leg straight for 20 minutes, b) Clamped in too tight and c) those vibrations ouch.
But it's over and i'm hoping it will be worth it, just back waiting again now, for the results and what ever comes after that.
I've spoken to the secretary and she is going to send me a copy of the results so that I can show you lot and also my Chiropractor. But as for follow up with the consultant who knows they wont book until they get the results back incase they take a long time.
But at least the scan is over, and thats one thing I suppose.

Keep smiling

Kat: )
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on June 13, 2006, 05:41:28 PM
Hi Kat

WooHoo! You're getting there girl! Did they give you any indication as to when you will hear back etc? You said you'll get to see the scan, will it make any sense to you? Mind you I'm sure someone on here will be able to offer guidance. I do hope they can diagnose you and hopefully offer PT rather than surgery.

Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Hop ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on June 13, 2006, 05:55:00 PM
it's not the scan i'm getting a copy of its the report so hopefully it will make some sense to someone.
As for how long that will be, at least a week or so more till it's reported on, after that who knows your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on June 13, 2006, 06:06:06 PM
I'm so pleased things are moving forward for you. Sorry I didnt get what you meant about the report. That's good then and not that long to wait. Things are moving on and I'm sure you're going to be feeling better really soon.


Make sure you let us know as soon as you do.

Good luck and happy days.
Hop ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on June 13, 2006, 06:07:37 PM
woohoo! the NHS finally got going and im having my MRSA test this week, op should be within 4 weeks!!!!! finally, ive waited ages for this. 
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on June 13, 2006, 06:14:05 PM
Hey Stanger! How you doing Charlotte?

That's great news! You and Kat both! Things are finnaly moving along! Yipeeeeeeeee ;D ;D ;D I'll keep all manner of things crossed for your MRSA result, I did't know you were having one, how did that come about? Is it because of pending surgery?

Good to hear from you girl.

Hop ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on June 13, 2006, 08:58:24 PM
Hey Charlotte
we might get our op the same day!
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on June 14, 2006, 09:15:32 AM
Hi everyone!
Sorry I havnt been about but ive been so busy i havnt been able to go on the net for anything other than work!!!  So relieved they are finally going to try to fix it.  The MRSA test is routine at this hospital, couple of swabs and send it off.  they check everyone before they go in so they can work accordingly, so people with it can be treated with higher caution.  they havnt had any outbreaks there at all so its working, im not complaining!!! 

Anja, that would be cool having our ops the same day, whens yours due?

Charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on June 14, 2006, 08:09:00 PM
Hi Charlotte
All being well, and not having it postponed again  ! It is booked for Monday 10th July - I have to go in the afternoon before. (cup final day!)
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on June 17, 2006, 01:42:51 PM
well i havent received a copy of the scan report yet but i do have a date for my follow up appointment so thats all happening much faster than i expected it to. its on the 26th of July so it'll be about 7 weeks after the scan which isn't too bad at all.
so you never know by the end of the summer my Knee misery may be on the way to being over, or at least i might have a name for it.
Hope everyone is enjoying the summer.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on June 17, 2006, 06:54:16 PM
Hi Charlotte
All being well, and not having it postponed again  ! It is booked for Monday 10th July - I have to go in the afternoon before. (cup final day!)

I hope they dont want me to go in the day before, i hate staying in hospitals.  Im a bit worried they wont let me home after and make me stay overnight.  its supposed to be just day surgery, but its about 5 hours from the hospital (near wigan, north west) to suffolk.  i dont know how they'll be about letting me travel that long still half under anaesthetic and stuff as you are after ops.  do you think they would let me keep the little pieces they take out in a jar?
charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on June 21, 2006, 01:18:33 PM
Ok well I spoke to my OS secretary this morning and she's emailed me the scan report so here it is.
 
MRI RIGHT KNEE
     
     1.   The menisci, cruciate ligaments and collateral ligaments are all
          normal.
     
     2.   No focal osteochondral abnormality.  In particular the patella
            hyaline cartilage is unremarkable (see 11 imas 7-13/19).
     
     3.   Normal extensor mechanism.  No significant joint effusion.
     
     CONCLUSION
 
     
   Normal examination.

So basically there is nothing wrong with it, you'd all think i'd be jumping around with excitement at this point, but if it's normal and unremarkable why does it hurt so much. I've got my OS appointment on the 26th July but whats the point he didn't believe me anyway and this will only confirm it.  AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on June 21, 2006, 04:29:50 PM
wow im sure if youre still in pain theres something wrong.  emphasise that MRIs miss stuff, they cant tell you everything.  keep pushing.  my last OS was saying basically i was making up the pain.  so i asked my GP to refer me elsewhere and she did.  now im waiting for my op.  keep going, get answers.

As for my MRSA test, im all clear so there should be no delays!!!!!  i hope he sorts it, 3rd time lucky maybe?

Charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on June 21, 2006, 04:39:29 PM
Hi Charlotte

You are seeing the fab OS you found so he'll sort you out no probs! Whooopie!  ;D ;D
How is it at the moment anyway? Has the rest of you healed after your accident?

Kat

I don't know what to say hun. You must be sooo frustrated. I can only reiterate what Charlotte said, there must be something wrong, there is something wrong. I hope and prey that your OS will come up with something for you, this is just getting silly. Don't put up with them telling you that it's in your head cos it's not. Scans are not always conclusive as many people on here have proved in the past. Keep fighting girl.  ;)

Hop  ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on June 21, 2006, 04:42:40 PM
Thanks for all the support, I wasn't planning on giving up. I just needed a boost again, there are only so many times you can drag yourself back up without support. Thanks again for all your support and encouragement.

Charlotte

Good luck with the op.


Kat: )
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on June 21, 2006, 04:48:01 PM
Kat

No worries hun. We believe you and are here whenever you need us.
We'll bloody show em!!  ;)
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on June 23, 2006, 04:32:29 PM
Hi Charlotte

You are seeing the fab OS you found so he'll sort you out no probs! Whooopie!  ;D ;D
How is it at the moment anyway? Has the rest of you healed after your accident?


At the moment hurting like hell, but as recovered reasonably from the accident, worse than before though.
Charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on June 23, 2006, 04:43:41 PM
Not for long hun, you're getting mended!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: itigo on June 23, 2006, 08:16:57 PM
Sorry for butting in here but it seemed appropriate as NHS related. I have posted before and am waiting for my op before November (6 month max and all that!). I was told quite quickly about surgery and sent up to day surgery to book in which I did. BUT the next time I go in will be for my op and I have questions. Due to have arthroscopy - patella debridement, possible meniscus repair, possible LR and a general poke around. I have seen my consultant once, saw someone diff this time but can't remember his name. At our hospital, you are put into a small cubicle for appt. and OS work their way down the middle so you can hear everyone else's exam and it is not conducive to thinking straight!

I can only assume (it being the NHS) that my consultant probs won't be doing the surgery anyways. How can I find out who is? I don't want just anyone poking around in there who is inexperienced (personal preference - I know they have to practise). How can I ask any knee related queries? My friend had a diff day surgery at the same hospital and said that she never even met her surgeon, just heard everyone complaining about her!! I have to say I feel a bit like a piece of meat at the moment! My main problem is that when I had initial problem I was abroad and so had to go private and was well looked after and my parents could consult as much as they liked. I don't really want to go private as it will slow everything down, it's expensive and I may get the same OS anyway.

Hope you guys can help!! Is this normal procedure?

Keep going Kat, you know your body......my initial dislocation wasn't diagnosed until they went in to remove some meniscus! Was told originally I had just strained a ligament......

Cheers
Itigo
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on June 23, 2006, 08:48:49 PM
HI Itigo

If you have questions you want to ask, ask them, ring your consultants secretaryand ask the questions you have, they will wither be able to answer them or get someone to call you who can. If they refuse then thats not good enough, you have to give informed consent and if you dont feel informed then you dont have to give consent so they will answer you. But if they dont and you still have questions go to the PALS service every NHS hospital has one (I know it's plugging my own job but it it the way in with questions) They wont be able to answer them directly but they will be able to point you in the right direction and push people to give you answers.

I hope that helps, keep smiling and don't let them make you feel like a piece of meat, you're a person and a patient, without you the NHS wouldn't exist, remind them that.

Kat
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: itigo on June 23, 2006, 09:38:12 PM
Thanks so much for that advice. I feel I can go and bug them now. They are so driven and quick, that the questions come after and then you feel like you don't want to bother them. This is the first time I've had surgery in adulthood and so need to feel more in control. My Mum (sadly died Nov 2005) had a lumpectomy New Year's Eve 2004 and refused to go in an hour before surgery cos she wouldn't sign consent for someone other than her consultant to perform the op. As she said it was her body, she needed the best possible chance (very sad that it didn't come through for her) and she wasn't taking any chances. Dad got embarrassed but stuck by her and they got her OS in from a New Year's Bash before he had got there. I think I will take a leaf from her book. She always stuck up for me before. For example before my arthroscopy at 16, she yelled at the guy taking blood as he was doing a bad job and offered to do it herself (medical background!) He got a lot better all of a sudden! I will miss her this time and am just trying to think of what she'd do.

Thanks again, will check back on this thread to see how you get on......

Itigo x
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: khughes1981 on July 03, 2006, 08:59:35 PM
Hi
I got my first op at one hospital,total disaster and afterwards they claimed there was nothing wrong with my knee.Luckily my work paid for me to see someone private.He said i definately neede another op which would cost between 5-6 thousand.Told him i couldn't afford it and he told me he was an NHS surgeon as well so i went to my GP who referred me to the surgeons NHS hospital.Once there i was told 6 months waiting list but waited 11.After that needed another op and was told 6 months again.I phoned up the surgeons secretary and complained as i had waited 11 months previously and i got a date for surgery 3 weeks later.For an appointment to see the OS at the first hospital i had to wait 62 weeks after my GP referred me
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on July 04, 2006, 12:30:45 PM
ok, 4 weeks ago they told me it would be about 4 weeks til my operation.  i havent heard anything. i sent off the MRSA test results, all clear so shouldnt be any delay, but i havnt heard anything, no letter fonecall anything.  the MRSA test is only valid for a few weeks and if i go into hospital in the mean time i need to have a retest which will delay the op.  considering my track record with the horse riding im likely to end up in A&E pretty soon.  i just want to know when and why the delay.  mum wont let me fone to ask whats going on so i cant get through to them.  i just dont understand.  im in agony waiting here, i collapsed in tescos yesterday because of this stupid knee.  i cant wait any longer.  sorry, thanks for letting me vent.
Charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on July 04, 2006, 02:06:36 PM
Hi Charlotte

You have every right as an 'NHS' customer to find out what's going on. I'd phone them! Good luck and let us know how you get on. ;D

Hop

Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on July 04, 2006, 02:12:32 PM
Hi charlotte
thats mad - they must have had a date for your op if they gave you the mrsa test? Did you go to the hosp or GP for the test. I had mine at the hosp and they said they would only contact me if there was a prob.. Like Hop said - ring them.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on July 25, 2006, 08:50:56 AM
HI Guys

So It's my OS appointment 2moro. I'm not really looking forward to it, but i've got my list of questions and i'm going to be strong i'm not leaving that office until he's told me what the next step is and if he tells me he doesn't know or there is nothing wrong then i wont leave until he's referred me elsewhere, i know something is wrong and thats all there is too it.
WIll i still be feeling this strong 2moro. I'll let you know.

Kat
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on July 25, 2006, 09:36:26 AM
Hi Kat
Good Luck tomorrow - take someone with you so that you are not distracted from your questions - and the answers you want - make sure the person you take knows what your intentions are and if the OS manages to fob you off that your friend can speak up and get you back on track - I took my husband to every meeting - It was so helpfull as he kept asking questions that he knew I needed answers for but got distracted from them.

let us know how it goes and stay strong!
anj
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on July 25, 2006, 09:37:03 AM
Hi Kat

You go girl! Good luck tomorrow, stay strong and remember we believe you.

Will be thinking of you

Hop ;D
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Charliemouse on July 25, 2006, 11:02:19 AM
Smeagol, did you call? If I hadn't called I would have missed my surgery so it's always worth giving them a ring, they don't mind and in fact would prefer it to having a theatre slot wasted due to a no show.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on July 26, 2006, 04:46:53 PM
Ok so i've been to see the OS and he doesn't know whats wrong with it so he got the Specialist Physio on to see me and she thinks that basically there is nothing mechanically wrong with my knee, they think that the pain is caused by pressures on my knee due to teh fact that i have bad gait, so they are sending me for physio.
Final parting words were Theres nothing more we can do, it's down to you now.
Marvelous.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on July 26, 2006, 04:47:38 PM
Hey guys

Charlotte - have you heard anything yet?

Kat - How did it go?

Question questions questions, Fingers rossed the answers are what we want eh ;D
Hop
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Hop skip n jump on July 26, 2006, 04:58:34 PM
Hey Kat, that's B*ll*cks.

Are they serious? Haven't you had loads of physio already? Get another opinion hun.
Must go finished work have to get the dinner on!

Catch up tomorrow.
Hop
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on July 26, 2006, 05:19:44 PM
DUH !!! agree with Hop - that is a load of b*****cks . - Could I suggest that apart from getting another OS - go and see a private physio - I did that with my son when he was having terrible back and hip trouble when he was 14 - he had MRI, xrays and a bone scan and they said nothing was wrong with him - I knew damn well there was - he is no wimp - had never had a day off school yet was in such pain - took him to a private sports physio and she spent 2 hrs with him just to do a thorough exam - turned out it was shortening in his ham strings!! - specific exercises and re learning to walk properly - as it affected the way he walked and he was a new person - and he only had 3 sessions with her!

It could well be your gait or even a back problem but needs looking into a bit more thoroughly - you might say you can't afford it - but can you afford not to?

good luck - keep us updated
anj
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on July 26, 2006, 05:45:39 PM
I've never seen an NHS physio before only a private sports physio, and he wasn't much good, so i'm going to see what the physio says and then go from there. It probably is my gait i know it's bad, we'll just have to wait and see again.

Kat
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Beth_T on July 26, 2006, 05:55:35 PM
Hi Kat

Forgive me for jumping in here  but I think Anja's right - you need to seek a second opinion.

I went on the NHS merry-go-round for nearly 10 years before I found out what was wrong with me and I ended up paying private to get the answer (nerve damage).  I went through an un-needed LR, numerous physios and various people saying I'm imagining the pain I was having.  ::)

It might be your gait - but are you walking differently because of another problem?

I know the NHS does their very best and I admire them for the work but sometimes you need to seek another more specialist opinion. 
I'd be happy to IM you the details of the Knee surgeon (not just an otho) that I saw if you wish?  Let me know.

Keep at them

Beth  :)
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on July 27, 2006, 10:58:50 AM
Hi everyone!
Right i foned and they said sorry the docs on holiday and will be back in september, so the op will be then, so im waiting 6 months for an urgent op.  im so frustrated.  i just cant cope with it any more, it hurts so much all the time.  noone understands the kind of pain i have, mum thinks im just putting it on and told me to cycle up and sort out the horses, but i cant!  i cant walk very well, limping badly, so my work sent me home and said dont come back tim next week and then only if im ok.  i just dont know what to do, the pain is just o much all the time, and now ive hurt it again too im in tears with it, it just wont give in.  i cant keep taking the pain meds because theyre very strong and arent doing my insides much good, plus im on a whole different planet when i take them. 

how do i get my mum to understand just how much this hurts?

Charlotte
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: katuc on July 27, 2006, 01:25:15 PM
The reason my gait is bad, is because of an injury on my ankle 8 years ago which the NHS messed up treating, so i'll give physio a few months and see what happens.

Charlotte i know exactly where you're coming from, no one knows how much it hurts but you, and people presume because everything is taking so long that it can't be that bad. Be strong, explain to her exactly what the pain is and how sick it makes you feel.

Good luck with the op when you get it.
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: Beth_T on July 27, 2006, 02:13:07 PM
Kat

oh I see, good luck anyway's.
Beth
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: UK Girl ! on July 28, 2006, 09:13:06 PM
Charlotte

go back and see your GP - it may well be that he can sort out a better combination of pain meds - sometimes you can take stuff for ages and then find that they are not so effective/have different side effects.  I used to use codeine based meds but found that after my op they mad me really dizzy and felt so ill.

sorry you have such a long wait still. think you need to sit your mum down and have a chat as well
good luck
Title: Re: NHS Thread!
Post by: smeagol on July 29, 2006, 10:56:21 AM
Charlotte

go back and see your GP - it may well be that he can sort out a better combination of pain meds - sometimes you can take stuff for ages and then find that they are not so effective/have different side effects.  I used to use codeine based meds but found that after my op they mad me really dizzy and felt so ill.

sorry you have such a long wait still. think you need to sit your mum down and have a chat as well
good luck

ive tried every combination of pain meds i can.  i cant take codeine either.  i had to change from ibuprofen to diclofenac  for the anti inflamms, but the only thing that touches the pain is this nefopam stuff.  its horrible to take.  i get so spaced out and i can be awke one second then right asleep the next.  i cant take more than a couple of the nefopam thingys (acupan) in a week because then i feel ill.