KNEE ARTHRITIS - Diet and nutritional supplements :

Oral Hyaluronic Acid - - Posted by JP (JPusateri), 13 October 2004

I've had bad knees all my life and I just have to rave about a supplement that's helped me and a lot of other people I know.

One of the newer supplements out there is Oral Hyaluronic Acid (the same thing that Synvisc and Hyalgan are made of).  

Oral HA is one of the hottest new things in the equine industry (I work with horses) where sound joints is big business.  Now it is gaining popularity in human supplements.  I have chronic Osgood-Schlatter's Disease left over from an athletic childhood, and I am now able to run 18-20 miles a week taking a product called Conquer III from Kinetic Technologies.

Posted by Horse_trainer (Horse_trainer), 15 October 2004

Just saw this post. I also work with horses and started taking oral HA supplements a month ago. RAVE REVIEW! I was to the point where it was knee brace all the time, not just when riding or working.  I haven't worn a brace but once in the past two weeks.  I'd love to see some of the other great effects.... but am thrilled with the results for my knees.

Glad you found it, too.
Posted by JP (JPusateri), 15 October 2004

Horse Trainer,

Did you first hear about oral HA from the equine supplements out there like I did?  (Conquer, Hylamotion, Chondrogen EQ, CortaFlx HA, ect)

I find it puzzling that for something so big in the horse world, it has been surprisingly lesser known as a supplement for humans... especially when people are willing to take all kinds of drugs and such for the pain and not treat the problem.

Anyway, glad to hear I wasn't the only one that knew about this wonder supplement!
Posted by billrobb (billrobb), 19 October 2004

where do you buy this product and how much do you take?
Bill
Posted by JP (JPusateri), 20 October 2004

Bill,

I live in Kentucky and there are a lot of horse vets that are keen to the latest and best joint therapies, therefore, I get the product from my vet.  

I know that the company that makes Conquer III (Kinetic Technologies) sells it online at www.kinetictech.net.  Also, I've researched the internet looking for the best price, just in case my vet was overpricing (he sells it for $25 per bottle).  There are some horse supply mail-orders/websites that sell it too: www.kvvet.com, www.healthforyourpet.com, and www.valleyvet.com.  There might be some others out there too, I don't know.

I take about 30 mg per day of HA.  This much seems to work very well.  And keep in mind that I've endured chronic pain in my knees all my life.  I know that the company that makes the stuff is really good about answering questions because I had A LOT of them before I started taking Conquer III.

I hope this helps!

-JP
Posted by Horse_trainer (Horse_trainer), 28 November 2004

Sorry to have been gone so long.... but for you horse-folks out there... it's almost futurity time!! There hasn't been time to get on this site for a long time.

I continue to take oral HA from a company called Purity Products  1-800-281-7781. This stuff is great. Of course, I knew about HA for horses for a long time, and nearly did the injections years ago... but this was worth the wait. Knees are not perfect, but they work every day and the pain is probably 75% better.  Daily dose is 150 mg HA along with 300mg of Chondroitin Sulfate and 1500 mg of Collagen.

Can't recommend this too highly!

Merry Christmas to all out there in Knee-Geek land!
Posted by Cora (Cora), 30 December 2004

I'm so glad I saw this post.  I saw some today and skipped buying it because I have tried a lot with little helping.  Guess I'll try it now.
Posted by JP (JPusateri), 30 December 2004

Let us know how the oral HA works.  It's been a godsend to me.  
Posted by Cora (Cora), 30 December 2004

I bought some today.  How long should I expect to take it before I see results?
Posted by JP (OSDKnees), 30 December 2004

I can't speak for any other product, but the product I use, Conquer III, by Kinetic Technologies, took about a week and a half before I noticed results.

Assuming that the molecular weight of the HA molecule is ideal, is has been radio-isotoped and shown to absorb in as little as 30 minutes and peaks within 4-6 hours after oral ingestion.  Of course, it takes a few days for the HA levels to build up in the body.  

All in all, you should see results far sooner than with Glucosamine or Chondroitin alone.

I hope this helps!
Posted by Cora (Cora), 31 December 2004

Yes, well Conquer III is a good buy.  I plan to get that too.  I went to the health food store and didn't like the price!  Probably not as good quality either!  How much Hyaluronic Acid, Chondroitin and Glucosamine is in the Conquer III?

Sorry, they don't tell you at the site!
Posted by JP (OSDKnees), 3 January 2005

Sorry about the delay, I had to get my bottle out... 500mg Glucosamine, 100mg Chondroitin and 12mg Hyaluronic Acid per capsule.  I take two capsules daily.  They have a product, HA-30, which is 30mg of HA per capsule.  Take 2 of those daily also.

Let me know how it works for you!
Posted by blue_ezzie (blue_ezzie), 21 January 2005

Hi,

This stuff sounds really interesting. Does anyone know if it is available as an oral supplement in Australia?

Thanks
ezzie
Posted by JP (OSDKnees), 21 January 2005

I'm in Lexington, KY.  I have no idea if you can get it anywhere else.

Sorry!
Posted by blue_ezzie (blue_ezzie), 23 January 2005

Hmm thanks anyway! I have been taking a Glucosamine/Chondroiton formula which also includes Hydrochloride...is this totally different to the Hyaloric Acid you are talking about? I asked at a couple of health food stores - where I usually get the Glucosamine tablets - and no one had heard of Hyaloric Acid. I'll ask my surgeon when I next see him, however, if anyone finds it in Australia please let me know!
Posted by JP (OSDKnees), 24 January 2005

Hyaluronic Acid (HA) is the same stuff that they inject into the knees, Synvisc or Hyalgan.  It is relatively new as an oral supplement, but it really works!

HA is a related molecule to Glucosamine and Chondroitin, but works a little bit differently, by improving the quality of the synovial fluid in the joint.
Posted by blue_ezzie (blue_ezzie), 25 January 2005

Ok thanks for that info, I'll keep looking!

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