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Offline rockinrory

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ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« on: February 07, 2016, 07:58:42 PM »
Hi Guys,

This is is my first post and I'm looking for people with similar injuries. I completed full dislocation of knee back in August and due to other commitments only getting surgery tomorrow.

I fully ruptured my ACL, PCL and MCL in a rugby match and have damaged my meniscus. I am using both my hamstrings and my patella tendon for the reconstruction.

Was just wondering if anyone has any tips/advice for the next few weeks?

Also anyone do anything similar and how did recovery go?

Here's hoping it all goes well  :)

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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 10:11:09 PM »
ice or a cyro cuff is your best friend post surgery! hope your recovery goes well :)

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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 10:48:48 PM »
Thanks for reply, will keep in that mind! Doubt I'd be able to sleep  tonight with the anxiety getting this done! Good thing have the superbowl to keep my eyes entertained!


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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 05:54:01 PM »
So the surgery went ok, my legs are quite big so only able to complete the ACL and PCL this time around in 4 hour surgery. Have to go back in 4 weeks to complete MCL as have to be able to bend to 90 degrees.

Was quite anxious before the surgery but feeling really good 2 weeks after the op so hoping as all ligaments weren't complete at same time will work in my favour for recovery.

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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2016, 10:44:26 AM »
I'm 3 weeks since my last operation on MCL. Not going to lie the ACL and PCL recovery seemed to go alot smoother. My hamstring was used as a graft to my calf for my new MCL. Alot of bruising and pain, the last 3 weeks have been very tough, first time I've felt disheartened since the injury.

Currently locked out in brace and will be for another 3 weeks......this time cant go quick enough!!

Can't wait till start even doing PT, this phase is the worst though!!

Anyone got any advise on how they got through?

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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2016, 06:17:55 PM »
RR!

Frick... You're right in front of me with the 100% of ACL, MCL, PCL, although I have meniscus involved as well. I still have my head in the sand about the 4 week lock out when they told me that last week. That, and the thought of non-weight bearing trying to wrap my pea brain around. How you managing?

Sorry to hear of double surgery. What gives? And both hamstring and patellar grafts?

Cheers

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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2016, 07:56:16 PM »
Venicematt we seem to be the lucky few that have had the pleasure of this injury :)

I also had meniscus damage which the surgeon fixed on first op.  Yeah as I said the PCL and  ACL post op went very smoothly. Was meant to be using patella tendon and hamstring but surgeon was worried he mightn't have enough hamstring so decided to go with the allagraph as he had ordered anyway. The double surgery was due to the size of my legs, the joys of being a rugby (former) and chunky legs!

Yes the lock out is the worst on the MCL. I take the brace off when resting at home but apart from that the last 3 weeks have deflated me.  I am weight bearing with crutches now, it helps but still difficult.

When are you scheduled to get your op? You planning to use your hamstrings or allagraphs?

 


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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2016, 12:29:50 PM »
Hey RR.

Lucky is a way of putting it...Haha. Play the lotto.

I read that again after posting, yup, super similar injuries. AND you're blessed with ginormous legs as well. Pretty funny trying on pants, shorts, anything involving the tree trunks. Haha

Sorry about the brace... Still can't imagine it. What been the most challenging? I am already in the future about the toilet, not being able to get in a car, sleeping, etc.... Stoked you're wt. bearing.

Ortho is using allagraphs for your very reason, I was very reluctant initially, now, I'm ready to charge it and get filleted already. Rehab is crazy difficult now, before surgery with ROM being so minimal. It's in the next 3-6 wks, still working on a firm date.

Cheers


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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2016, 02:47:16 PM »
Yeah the previous joys of being a 36/38 inch waist with 29 inch legs :) :)

Il give you a bit more background! The injury actually happened last August but by the time the swelling was going to come down, I only had realistically 6 weeks before I was getting married on Friday 13th November(obviously cursed) so smart (wife) decision was to put off till after the wedding.  Was due to have the surgery the 1st week of December but on our flight to Budapest for our honeymoon I got a hot cup of tea spilt on my leg by the air host which gave me full thickness burns which required me to get a skin graph. This was also on my bad leg which wasn't fun.

This actually delayed my surgery again till February when I first posted on this board. Since the original injury back in August I have prob put on 2 and a half stone which is the most frustrating. I've started being extremely careful now with food intake as every bit of weight on these knees will make a difference.

The most frustrating for me is not being able to be active like I used to. Also the fact I have a 2 year old who likes running everywhere and not have the freedom to take him anywhere or do anything.

Going to to the toilet with straight locked out leg is always fun :) and was lucky enough to get my hands on an automatic so haven't been restricted getting around. The leg does get sore sitting at a desk all day but try put up whenever possible.  I hadn't planned to get the allagraph but was happy for surgeon to advise here, in fairness he was brilliant and went through everything with me and put me at ease with all my concerns.

Have attached a couple of pics of the bruising after the injury and post op. (pretty neat to be fair)

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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2016, 03:09:39 PM »
Haha. Yup, tree trunk legs! ;D

That is some serious bad luck, yikes.

Eating.... We get used to stuffing our gullet for sure. Ha
My wt. has increased as well and I'm still trying to exercise but just unable to do what I used to do. How did you manage having a 2yo and everything associated with this injury? Props!!!! How long until you were driving? I'm thinking of blogging, daily updates for my own sense of improvements, setbacks, etc. I've had some fairly serious injuries and unfortunately I think this will be the doozy to date. It's not just a little pinche ACL....Haha

Glad the allograph went well and the pictures are impressive...Frick.

Did you do any pool training at all for ROM, exercise, easy wt. bearing, etc?

Cheers

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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2016, 10:20:30 AM »
Sorry venicematt haven't been back for few weeks!

Just back from surgeon today, 5 weeks post MCL op now and have to stay another 1 week on crutches for stability with a smaller brace. Not back to see him for another 6 weeks and the only thing he has told me to do is PT with strength work on quads!

No Pool work or anything else currently, just glad to be getting the big brace off........its all about the little wins :)

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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2016, 12:50:22 PM »
It's all good....

How things going?

Little wins is right! How's the psyche with the boredom, if any?

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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2016, 04:52:00 PM »
Not too bad now, crutches are gone tomorrow  :) :) :) :)

Went and completed some circuit training yesterday which was first time since August (feeling sore but great) obviously all upper body but def feeling more excited after that.

Put on the smaller brace and it made my knee grind and crack when I bent it so have to wait to see what surgeon says, hopefully that would just loosen out. 

Honestly feeling a lot better the last few days, long may it continue!!!

How's things going with you now?  Have you got a date for surgery yet? Still doing PT work?

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Re: ACL, PCL and MCL reconstruction -
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2016, 12:17:30 AM »
Stoked to hear you're back at it and charging forward. Hopefully ROM is improving rapidly. Seems a fine line of overdoing it too soon. :o  Graduated from being called skip. haha

Still no date and I'm quite frustrated about it to say the least. I'm diligent rehabbing, able to surf-ski quite a bit so that maintains some form of mental and physical sanity. I had it worked on today and really seemed to help with increased circulation.

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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2016, 02:00:54 PM »
Is taking a while to get a date!! Good to hear you are still able to remain active, that wasn't something I could even attempt to do even 6 months after injury before surgery!!!

Would you believe being me I had an incident over the weekend. Was on boat going down shannon and slipped on boat and jerked my knee. Felt instant pain and had to go back on crutches........

Had MRI yesterday and met surgeon who advise the screw had been pulled out so is now lying idle, so have to go back for 1 more surgery now. If the graph is intact he will just screw back with bigger screw or may need to take hamstring from right leg.......would you believe Im going on holidays next week so have to put off till come back, he nearly wanted me to cancel but said it will be fine and give time for swelling to go down!!

I really shouldnt plan anything fun :)

Happy it wasn't ACL/PCL damage as that wouldnt be fun!!!

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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2016, 12:06:34 PM »
HOLY!!!!!

Was going in this morning and Surgeon cancelled last week.... JUNE 29th. Unbelievable disappointment-going to be stronger going in now! Right in the middle of summer.
You weren't able to be active before surgery??? How'd you strengthen???

NO!!!! That is such a bummer! Something so benign and a small slip? How is it now? Week later and better? Sorry to hear!

I can't imagine how that is... another surgery, possibly involving other knee for graft? Your Great attitude about ACL/PCL, I think is awesome! Could always be worse.

At the end of the day for me... Yeah, this really sucks, the frustrations, limitations, pain AND it's not Stage 4 Cancer, Glioblastoma or any number of things.

Hope this finds you on the mend feeling better!

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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2016, 02:40:37 PM »
Sorry been on holidays and getting the other operation done. Painkillers wiped me last week!!!

So bigger screw with put in with a washer for the MCL :) The surgeon said he was going to put me in a cast but decided against it thankfully!

Another 6 weeks with no weight bearing although booked in for follow up on 24th June so hopefully that will be the end of it.

Feels good again, the holiday was tough as the loose screw/ligament would cause pain depending on what way it was lying!

All we can do is try stay positive about it all......

God you are going to be an animal with all this training you are doing before the surgery!!! Seems to be dragging out for you also, at least you can see a date and work to it!

Make sure to update with some pics post op, love to see whos are bigger :) 


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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2016, 04:51:08 PM »
Rory!!!!

I have not been on here in awhile. How did everything go on your 24th appt.? I can't believe another 6wks for you. Screw/ligament was not attached, or????

I was finally filleted open June 29th!!! I am SO stoked to be finished with that chapter and ready for rehab, although the knee... not quite ready. Haha. In the brace, crutches, crawling up the wall, you know the routine until my f/up on 7/11, bored out of my head, watching netchicks, reading and really trying to keep in front of the pain. How was it, pain, for you? There isn't a rhyme or reason, it's so sporadic, it will be unbearable one minute and can be zero later. trying to sleep tho, that's brutal! The body is truly amazing.

I'll take some pictures after my appt. Crazy how much atrophy there was prior to surgery, legs looked like 2 different people.

Hope this finds you well and on the mend.

Matt

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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2017, 11:56:32 AM »
So 5 operations down now at this stage with the last one taking place in July. I'm not going to lie itsbeen a rollercoaster for me which I encounter what it means to suffer from depression during the whole episode.

My weight ballooned to 21 stone since the injury happened. Between weight issues,  multiple operations and months on crutches, set back after set backl and forced to give up playing a sport I love it was difficult time for me.

I took control of my fitness again and discovered a Crossfit gym in my local area. The trainers have been great and I've already dropped 2 stone. I went from not being able to body weight squat to completing reps at 140kg again comfortably.  Everything has been about gradual progression and its taken time but i've completed over 100 sessions there since May and really feeling the benefits. I have even managed to jog lightly which my surgeon said may not be possible.

This post is mainly to highlight that there is a way back for those in similar positions, keep working hard and surround yourself with good people.

If anyone has questions please hit me up. Best of luck to you all!