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Author Topic: AF with an area hard as murble - how do you treat it?  (Read 543 times)

Offline Decruz

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AF with an area hard as murble - how do you treat it?
« on: July 11, 2012, 02:21:07 PM »
Hi everybody,
I've knee AF treated with multiples failed surgeries and that's characterized/associated with an area hard as murble - how do you treat it?
I mean "non surgically" and considering I've already tried ASTYM (failed - imagine massaging with a tooled massage an area hard like murble - don't even possible it would help, in fact it didn't), whatever instrumental therapy such as ultrasound, laser therapies, Extracorporeal Shock Wave Therapy, etc. (all failed).
I was considering Graston but I feel it'd be the same in results and even worse in pain during the treatment (treating this area with hard tools is excruciating painful, not tolerable with ASTYM, and please note I'd tolerate everything if it was helpful, but it was just way too painful).
Sounds like it's a very thickened capsule in there the problem..

Any suggestion?

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Offline kcknee

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Re: AF with an area hard as murble - how do you treat it?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 10:23:42 PM »
If the scar tissue is that hard, Graston probably has a better chance of working. I sent you a private message with the link and Pam also posted the provider link on your other post. I have used Graston to break up scar tissue and forcibly break down the enclosed fluid pockets (seromas) in my leg. It is painful, but nothing compared to the surgical pain that we have all gone through to get rid of scar tissues. The first session is the toughest because you don't know what to expect, but the other sessions are easier since you don't get used to it, but learn to expect the pain. You can always have the doctor stop if the pain is too much for you to handle. My chiro asks  me all the time if he is doing too much. I'm impatient so let him do as much as he can because after the treatments the pain stops so it is only for a few minutes and the results have been great.
Kristin
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Re: AF with an area hard as murble - how do you treat it?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 09:19:03 PM »
Believe me, the area isn't treatable with tooled massage as even with ASTYM and medium pressure I was jumping away from the PT bed, untolerable.
It's not pain, it's much more - this are is flat but like 0,5-1cm thicker than normal, no texture, jus a parte of the knee (capsule) bulged out or similar.
It's not a matter of tolerating or not, it's way over what anyone could tolerate (after all I went through I've a very high pain toleration if the treatment could actually be beneficial, but it was just untolerable with ASTYM, I can't even imagine with Graston).
I know already it would miserably fail in this area as I'd be forced to jump away far from the PT hands...
Any injection treatment to make such a hardened parts softer/more pliable to then be maybe treat them with/by a tooled massage such as Graston?

Thank you
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