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Frustrated with rehab ACLr post-op
« on: July 06, 2012, 07:27:24 PM »
Hi! I've been lurking these boards starting few weeks prior to my knee surgery, so it's been about a month now... but now that I'm actually in need of some advice, I decided to post and see what comes up!

Anyway, I had an ACL reconstruction using a patellar tendon autograft and a partial meniscectomy on my left knee on June 21. Today is 2 weeks and 1 day post-op. I had MASSIVE swelling right after my surgery (and ended up bleeding through all my gauze and ACE bandages on the first night!), and I've been having a lot of difficulty with my ROM. I should also mention that my pain medication didn't work, and I was unable to switch my prescription until about a week later, so I've pretty much had no aid in assisting with pain since my surgery, other than ice and elevation.

5 days post-op, I went in for an evaluation with the PT and my extension was at 0 (not quite sure if this was measured correctly...) and my flexion was at 40 degrees. I saw my surgeon yesterday for my first post-op appt and he said the new ligament looked fine. I then had my first "official" PT today, and my measurements were at a meager 7 degrees for extension and 42 degrees for flexion.

I've been doing quad sets, gravity assisted leg straightening, heel slides, and seated knee bends. They've been painful! Yet I still can't do leg raises, and I'm just extremely frustrated with my "progress". When I went in for my first evaluation with the PT, I was there with another girl who had the same surgery minus the meniscectomy one day before me, and she was already at about 75 degrees of flexion.

Why am I having such a hard time with this? It was extremely discouraging to find out today that after about 1.5 weeks of painfully tugging on my leg to get it to bend and straighten, I was only able to get 2 more degrees of flexion. I should note that I'm stuck with Kaiser for insurance, otherwise I'd definitely choose to be somewhere else for rehab. Does anybody have some input or advice?
06/21/12 - ACLr w/ patellar tendon autograft, partial M/L meniscectomy
08/14/12 - partial L meniscectomy, synovectomy, capsular release, MUA, notchplasty, chondral debridement, prominent screw
03/19/13 - partial L/M meniscectomy, ACL & chondral debridement, capsular & lateral release, scar revision

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Re: Frustrated with rehab ACLr post-op
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 03:53:16 AM »
Well, I'm 2 days away from 3 weeks post-op and I guess I'll just give an update.

Even with doing consistent exercises every single day, I see no difference at all in my ROM. If I try to bend until I feel that gentle tug/pain, my knee gets a little bit looser. If I bend til the point of tears, I can force maybe a few more degrees, but a couple hours later, my knee just feels immensely painful and stiff. Either way, the few degrees of flexion I get with my exercises seems to go away within minutes, and by the next day, it's as though I've been doing nothing at all.

I'm still icing and elevating everyday. I still can't do leg raises (I did one very tiny one a few days ago and haven't been able to do since). It's funny because my quads feel strong and are contracting strongly (even my surgeon was pleased with how they were contracting), but when I try to pick my leg up, my patella tendon feels like it's going to rip apart.

I'm just really frustrated at the moment, and I'm wondering if I should be worried about arthrofibrosis...
06/21/12 - ACLr w/ patellar tendon autograft, partial M/L meniscectomy
08/14/12 - partial L meniscectomy, synovectomy, capsular release, MUA, notchplasty, chondral debridement, prominent screw
03/19/13 - partial L/M meniscectomy, ACL & chondral debridement, capsular & lateral release, scar revision

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Re: Frustrated with rehab ACLr post-op
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 05:22:14 AM »
You have obviously read way too much on the boards if you are worried about arthrofibrosis already! It is a very rare condition.

A lot of what you have described is simply lack of use - the less you use a limb for whatever reason it will stiffen up and you will lose muscle. Although every doctor has their own rehab there is a common theme through - move your knee as frequently as possible. With some that may be actively and aggressively with others that is passively and as gently as possible, but keep the knee MOBILE some how.

Start by putting a plastic bag over your foot and gently sliding the flattened foot back and forth over the floor. If you do not have carpets, then a sock and wooden floors works just as well. While elevating and icing, raise your legs and rest them against the wall and then let your feet gradually slide down the wall. Also while icing and elevating the knee point your toes down then bring your foot back up. do that as often as you can and it helps reduce the swelling.

Of course your leg and knee will hurt, it has been through a huge trauma, but the more you use it the better and less painful the movement gets. With the SLRs work on it slowly, lift the foot a little bit, that is more than enough to engage the quads.

Wimping out will just prolong the agony and possibly lead to other problems. Take your pain meds and do the exercises prescribed. The more you do them, the easier they get.

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Re: Frustrated with rehab ACLr post-op
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 05:00:24 PM »
I've been working on my ROM aggressively at home and in two weeks I've only gained 6 degrees in my natural bend! It sure is frustrating!

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Re: Frustrated with rehab ACLr post-op
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2012, 03:45:24 PM »
Well, thought I should update this, so here it is!

At 5 weeks I left my original PT clinic with 82 degrees. I finally switched my insurance which meant I could choose to go where I wanted for PT. I went to my new clinic last week, left the first session with 110. Three days later, left my second session with 118. My new PT has also gotten my extension from 5 down to 1 within the four days I saw her.

Apparently, what my old PT failed to tell me and seems to have neglected altogether is that there was quite a bit of scar tissue at my incision site that was keeping my knee from bending any further. However, she said I came to her just in time because my knee wasn't completely frozen from the scar tissue (when she pushes down on my knee into extension, it straightens out compliantly, which makes both of our lives easier). With some massage and patellar mobilization, my knee has loosened up quite a lot, even though it's not gliding as nicely as she wants it to be.

My PT was actually in shock at what my old PT sessions consisted of.
I have no doubt that if I had been able to come to her sooner, my recovery would have gone a lot smoother. My old PT never actually worked on my knee like my new PT does-- sessions just consisted of showing me 3 or 4 exercises!
06/21/12 - ACLr w/ patellar tendon autograft, partial M/L meniscectomy
08/14/12 - partial L meniscectomy, synovectomy, capsular release, MUA, notchplasty, chondral debridement, prominent screw
03/19/13 - partial L/M meniscectomy, ACL & chondral debridement, capsular & lateral release, scar revision

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Re: Frustrated with rehab ACLr post-op
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2012, 07:22:03 AM »
Hi

So good to hear you have got the bend you needed and the extension now following changing PT..

It is so difficult to know if you have a good PT or someone who just wants to get paid!!  We have the same in the UK there are some that know what they are doing and will push you and others who expect you to push yourselves and nothing from them..

I think we all need to push ourselves but agree that we need more support from PT's as im sure we all dont know whats going on.  I have my OS in 1 town and my PT in another and I have to relay messages between them on what I need!! I think in this game the OS and the PT should work together closely to ensure the right treatment is provided as this can seriously mess up all the hard work done by the surgeon..

In your case it sounded like you had become worried and anxious about your bend and extension and I dont think that helps with the rehab and I think you can push yourself too hard then..  I think I started doing too much as well and this causes more swelling.. in most cases i think your knee tells you when its ready and some of it is a waiting game until it shouts 'hey there im here now back in the zone!!'

you take care anyhow and good luck with future marathons and olympic medals!!!
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Re: Frustrated with rehab ACLr post-op
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 11:56:38 PM »
I thought I should update this since, WOW, so much has happened since.

I went in for my 8 week post-op check up on Monday... so yesterday. It was with a different surgeon since I am now covered by a different insurance.
The surgeon noticed a lot of grinding on the outer edge of my knee. I paid it no attention since there is still some swelling, and you know, swelling can make your knee pop and click and whatnot. Well, the surgeon thought otherwise and took a look at the x-rays that I had gotten about 20 minutes ago, and found that the screw in my tibia was protruding out.

I went ahead and got an MRI right after I left her office. She squeezed me in for surgery the next day (so today) just in case the screw was hitting other structures (ie cartilage on femur) in the knee and causing damage. Turns out the screw was 5-6 mm out of the bone-- so it wasn't hitting the cartilage. There was also a bony bit sticking up from my tibia next to it, and I'd also somehow gotten a small meniscus tear as well :(

She gave me the option to wait to get surgery later in December, but both her and my original surgeon and I agreed that it'd probably be best to do it the next day (today) for various reasons. Yes, 2 months out of ACL reconstruction is very early to be having hardware removal, but we had good and valid reasons-- plus because I had a patellar tendon autograft, so m new graft itself was holding just as well as my good knee.

I went into surgery today for a "left knee arthroscopy, possible meniscectomy, and debridement/chondroplasty". Before I went in though, my surgeon added "possible ACL retensioning" and "possible screw removal" to the list. I don't really quite know what exactly went down in the OR since all the verbal information was given to my mom (who has not an inkling about medical terms whatsoever) and my report got sent back to my surgeon's office. But according to a nurse, one of my screws were either trimmed down or removed, and according to my mom, there was a lot of scar tissue that my surgeon ended up removing. I guess the important thing though is that I have my post-op instructions.

The aftermath of the surgery itself is definitely so much more tolerable than the actual ACL surgery. The pain definitely isn't nearly as bad, and I can easily dangle my knee over the bed/chair. That being said, I'm so glad we chose to do this today and not in December. Can't imagine what it would've been like if we had waited  :-X
06/21/12 - ACLr w/ patellar tendon autograft, partial M/L meniscectomy
08/14/12 - partial L meniscectomy, synovectomy, capsular release, MUA, notchplasty, chondral debridement, prominent screw
03/19/13 - partial L/M meniscectomy, ACL & chondral debridement, capsular & lateral release, scar revision

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Re: Frustrated with rehab ACLr post-op
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2012, 09:10:58 AM »
Oh my goodness how dramatic! Sounds like you managed to switch surgeons and get a surgery just in time. Hope your rehab is easier this time around with a better team supporting you!