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Offline sleepylawyer

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Re: APOS THERAPY SHOES
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2012, 10:00:48 AM »
Hello there.  Due to see Apos people on Weds  all is good so good stopped wearing the apos shoes for a while and yes the pain came back but just wearing them again and sure it will ease.  Wore FIT Flop type sandals in the summer both in and out the house and that seemed to really help with the knees even if i wasnt wearing the Apos shoes.  Problems started when i went back to wearing little pumps when the weather turned.  Not APos' fault you are advised to keep wearing them even taking them on holiday so all my fault. wont do it again cos i got knee pain at night and back ache silly me.
 Did anyone hear the article on Medicine Now on Radio 4 on the 11th September can be listened to /downloaded from BBC website   they interviewed Prof Sue Kimber on her trials of a method of transferring chrondrocytes(cells that produce cartilage) into knees using fibrin.  She hopes this will be available within 5 years commercially as an off the shelf treatment  for  OA knees.  Really really exciting news as my 18year old daughter has discoid meniscus defects in both knees and already has articular cartilage damage. all that will have to be done is tissue typing and inject the culture - not sure how that will be done ie under general anaesthetic or not.  and so the world turns. 
Goood news Mrs Mac so pleased for you and pleased I posted here intially.  Let me know if you read the above article  exciting isnt it.   
07/09 diagnosed with lateral discoid meniscus with large tear RK menisectomy
03/10 diagnosed with new meniscus tear RK.
05/10 partial menisectomy, lavage and debridement 2x2 cm square Grade 4 hole in medial femoral condyle articular cartilage RK
07/11 LK medial meniscal tear
08/11 APOS shoes fitted

Offline RobertN

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Re: APOS THERAPY SHOES
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2012, 11:44:13 AM »
Just another contribution about my own recent experience of Apostherapy:

I had serious knee problems in my teens, culminating in the removal of my right kneecap when I was 18 (in 1974). I was left with the understanding that I would inevitably have problems with arthritis in future and that the name of the game was to play for time.

Although I increasingly limited my activities, I avoided consultants until 2002, when I spent a weekend clearing out a garage, after which I was almost unable to move. My knee ballooned and remained swollen for months, until a consultant advised me to take a fortnight’s course of diclofenac. It worked like magic. The consultant subsequently carried out an arthroscopy on the right knee, which may or may not have achieved much. In all fairness to him, he had reservations about doing the operation at all. What I am sure did help was the very expert physiotherapy that I had afterwards. In my experience good physiotherapy is extremely good, whereas mediocre physio doesn’t achieve much.

More recently my “good” knee has given me increasing problems. As a result of the combined problems with the two legs, over the last year or so I have been getting up several nights a week because of pain. I also developed a dread of visiting cities, because the pain could be hellish. In addition I have increasingly avoided social gatherings that involved standing up and talking to people. None of these things has been good for my work! The worst part is when the pain stops you thinking. My world seemed to be getting steadily smaller, with no really good way to reverse that process.

Past experiences have left me rather phobic about operations. While I assume I will ultimately need a knee replacement, I also assume that like any other mechanical device it will gradually deteriorate, with unpredictable consequences. Besides, it takes time to recover from an operation, which is disruptive in itself.

I discovered Apostherapy via BUPA. If BUPA had not been involved, I would almost certainly have ignored Apostherapy on the basis that it must be an expensive fad. My first appointment was a month ago.

Since then I have slept through every night, which is a huge deal for me. I also spent half an hour standing chatting to people at a business reception this week, without pain getting in the way. I can’t say I’m completely pain free (yet, at least), but really important practical changes have occurred. It is also incredibly good for morale to see that it is possible to reverse changes that I had assumed were irreversible.

Needless to say, I plan to keep going with the Apostherapy. One of the best features is that it is possible to get on with one’s life while wearing the shoes. One problem with the traditional leg lift type exercises is that I find them very boring!
1970 dislocated both knees at once—broke a piece off right femur
1970 tendon transplant right knee
1971 tendon transplant left knee
1974 patellectomy right knee
2003 arthroscopy right knee

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Re: APOS THERAPY SHOES
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2012, 06:13:36 PM »
here is an article about prof sue kimber's work. I hope my bad joints last out until the treatment is available, but if not, at least there is starting to be more and more valid non-surgical treatments in the pipeline for those with crappy joints yet to come

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1321434/Stem-cell-jab-end-need-hip-replacements-repairing-damaged-joints.html

I so empathise with RobertN. Im so glad the treatment is working for you too. I too was starting to avoid social gatherings. It just wasnt worth the pain or effort. I remember getting into a bit of a panic when I first made the appointment at Apos because they prefer you not to take painkillers before you go and I wasnt sure Id make it there. As it was, I was limping so badly at the station when I went to get the train to London, that they had to hold it up for me. I cant believe that was only 6 months ago, things have changed for me so much. I honestly dont know where I would be now if I hadnt found out about Apos - recovering from a TKR and waiting for a THR I expect- because the shoes have worked just as well on my hip as much as my knee.
If I get any pain now its usually because Ive been a bit lazy wearing the shoes or because Ive overdone exercise. I still cant wear heels really, but I live in hope.  ;D

« Last Edit: September 29, 2012, 07:14:44 PM by Mrsmac »

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Re: APOS THERAPY SHOES
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2012, 10:59:25 AM »
Hi All just registered on here as been reading about Apos Therapy - I am 53 and had a partial knee replacement Left leg Aug 9th 2011 have had nothing but trouble.... tendonitis being the main problem and causing a disfunctional S.I joint. That's the short version.  decision to replace was after having microfracture and cleaning out twice..  (on both knees!) right knee also needs replacing and being reviewed by consultant in March 2013.  Really dont want to go down the route of getting another replacement based on exisiting experience and pain.  I am on Naproxin and Paracetamol but choose to take it when need to numb pain for running round a dog show ring!  have arranged appointment with Apos for Feb...  price given if I go ahead if suitable is £2,480 (she mentioned they do interest free payments!) that covers one whole year treatment, adjustments etc.. approx 5 visits.  So will keep an eye on posts here to see if anyone else has success.. especially want to hear from anyone who has had a knee replacement using Apos...

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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2013, 11:58:03 PM »
Right so you all seem to have been helped by APOS, I have read the Dail Mail Ad., sent off the email, spoken to the guy on the phone, and am booked in for London tomorrow. I believe that I have done a lot of due dilligence, Companies House, BUPA trials, Israel background, Directors profiles, Finance backing etc. As an engineer I can sort of understand the process.  Still quite sceptical, and am wary about the costs and modern healthcare "selling"; some can make a fortune much like bankers !

I am a 66 yr old guy carrying 125kg (BMI > 40), reasonably active but struggling to walk far and to run at all; ladders are a killer. Had an arthroscopy with microfracture in Left knee 10 years ago, which sorted the torn cartilige. Can manage off-shore sailing quite well, 3 weeks across the Atlantic were fine, but when I got ashore I could not even stand on dry land. Skiing has taken a back seat, had one ligament strain 20 years ago, but now have found a day on the slopes impossible. I'll let you all know....

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Re: APOS THERAPY SHOES
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2013, 08:22:14 AM »
Hi
I am new to this.

I have just recently had an appointment with Apos Therapy Birmingham.  I live in North Wales and have had to pay privately, saying this just to point out the desperation of my plight.

This therapy is for arthritis in my right knee I also have a touch in my left knee and my right hip.

It took quite a time for the therapist to adjust the pods until I achieved comfort, but even then I was questioning myself.

Wore the shoes for the first tme yesterday and have been uncomfortable since. Unlike most reviews where the patient seemed to find improvement immediately.

I just wondered if anyone has had the first initial experience.

I will carry on regardless hoping things will improve.  My next appointment is in a months time.

Hope my next post will be more positive.

Thanks for listening.
wanna b hiker.

Offline RobertN

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Re: APOS THERAPY SHOES
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2013, 01:42:10 PM »
This is a quick follow-up to my contribution in September.

My better knee (the one with the meniscus problem) settled down—I’m not even sure when. The whole problem just went away within a month or two of starting with Apos. I had had three and a half years of trouble, latterly getting up with pain two or three nights a week. I definitely put this huge improvement down to Apos.

The flip side is that my worse knee (the one with the patellectomy carried out 38 years ago) was suddenly put under the spotlight. I had cosseted it for many years, and suddenly the Apos treatment required it to take a much more even share of the load compared with the other knee. Just when everything seemed to be going rather well, my patellectomy knee swelled up, giving me the most intense pain I had had since my early teens and making me more or less housebound for several weeks.

That happened just before Christmas, and there was an inevitable delay till early January before the boots were adjusted to make them less demanding. Since then things have gradually improved: last weekend I walked a couple of miles with no great difficulty or pain, and I’m hoping for—and honestly expecting—further improvement. (I want to go sailing again!) Pain in both knees has more or less gone away. It had become impossible to straighten the patellectomy leg fully, which meant I needed a cushion under the knee if I lay on my back in bed, for example. Since the swelling went down in January my leg straightens fully, so I don’t need a cushion under the knee any more. For a while the knee felt quite fragile and vulnerable (even before it swelled up at Christmas), but that seems to be passing.

My worse knee clearly has an unusual history and unusual problems, and clearly needs to be treated with care! Apos for me has not been by any means plain sailing, but I’m still very glad I found it. For my particular knees I'm impressed how much Apos has managed to achieve, despite the problems along the way, and as I say I'm hoping for further improvement.
1970 dislocated both knees at once—broke a piece off right femur
1970 tendon transplant right knee
1971 tendon transplant left knee
1974 patellectomy right knee
2003 arthroscopy right knee

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Re: APOS THERAPY SHOES
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2013, 06:44:43 PM »
when will the APOS Shoes be available in the USA ?.

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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2013, 08:57:07 PM »
Thanks everyone for all the useful feedback about the apos therapy boots. My physiotherapist recommended I have a look at the APOS website and though it seemed interesting, I wasn't sure. However, hearing your comments, I am now keen to give it a try. I'm planning to phone BUPA tomorrow to check if they will fund me on my policy. I'm 58, have OA and meniscus tears in both knees and have been told by surgeons that I'm too young to have half knee replacements. I am, thankfully, still able to cycle and do spin classes to keep fit but would love to get back to walking as I've only been able to hobble half a mile with the dog for years, whereas I used to run marathons and hike with a back pack all day in the mountains. So, will keep hoping for an improvement with this new idea.

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Re: APOS THERAPY SHOES
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2013, 05:48:45 PM »
Hi All

I am going for my first appointment in London on Friday for Apos therapy so any further info would be very useful! Tore my ACL first time skiiing 35 years ago and had a modified Jones repair so plenty of ups and downs with 2 arthroscopies and a my latest MRI showing I need knee replacements acording to my GP. Have put off going to any consultant because of the poor prognosis on knee replacements but was just doing some internet searches to find the best one/s when came across Apos therapy.
Something that I have been using that is worth trying is cabbage on the knees (inside my tights!) - recommended by a herbalist as a natural anti inflammatory 20 odd years ago and while not a cure - lessens the pain and is a lot cheaper than over the counter products. She also recommended eating cabbage etc for the same anti inflammatory effect.

Anyway will let you know my views after Friday. Anyone found any clinical trials on this treatment?

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« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2013, 11:22:17 PM »
Re reports of trials: I did find some when I checked this out last year. See http://search.medscape.com/medline-search?newSearch=1&queryText=apostherapy and http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/727557. Obviously there is also material on the Apostherapy site itself (http://apostherapy.co.uk/en/publications/medical-research) but it’s nice to find information elsewhere!

Hope this helps ...

RobertN
1970 dislocated both knees at once—broke a piece off right femur
1970 tendon transplant right knee
1971 tendon transplant left knee
1974 patellectomy right knee
2003 arthroscopy right knee

 














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